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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/19/18 1:14:07 PM
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Why did they steal the vibranium hammer? Why did they try and sell it in Korea? Why didnt he just kill Klaw right away and go to Wakanda?
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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/19/18 1:25:17 PM
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Ah so he had no plan I get it
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CasualGuy
02/19/18 1:27:47 PM
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> steal hammer
>sell it to klau
> get claw to fly him to Wakanda (because he didn't know how to get there)
> challenge BP
> kill BP
> be king
> send weapons to spies around the world
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L0Z
02/19/18 1:27:54 PM
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I think he built their enemy up just to break him down and deliver him to them
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lilORANG
02/19/18 1:29:56 PM
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boxington
02/19/18 1:31:47 PM
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CasualGuy posted...
> steal hammer
>sell it to klau
> get claw to fly him to Wakanda (because he didn't know how to get there)
> challenge BP
> kill BP
> be king
> send weapons to spies around the world

didn't he already have a way to get to Wakanda, because he killed Klaue beforehand.

maybe to use Klaue's body as a bargaining chip, since many Wakandans wanted him dead.
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Akagami_Shanks
02/19/18 1:36:18 PM
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He probably planned on breaking Klaue out the whole time to sow discord in Wakanda and then delivering him. Imagine the story now

Klaue sells their precious vibranium, gets captured by the CIA, and then broken out, T'challa returns home empty handed and has to inform them that their vibranium has been sold and Klaue is free, and then Killmonger shows up with Klaue's head and says he is the son of Prince N'Jobu

It would be a nightmare for T'Challa and that was probably Eriks intent the whole time
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lilORANG
02/19/18 1:39:18 PM
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also those dopes just sort of had to take him at his word that he was royal. No blood test, just "yup, go ahead and challenge the king for the throne"
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UrCa1988
02/19/18 1:42:03 PM
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lilORANG posted...
also those dopes just sort of had to take him at his word that he was royal. No blood test, just "yup, go ahead and challenge the king for the throne"

We as the audience know who he is, it would just pad runtime to go through that. It's more expediency than oversight.
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Tyranthraxus
02/19/18 1:48:43 PM
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lilORANG posted...
also those dopes just sort of had to take him at his word that he was royal. No blood test, just "yup, go ahead and challenge the king for the throne"

he literally showed up wearing the royal ring of the late king's brother.

they had a very good reason to take his word for it.
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LightHawKnight
02/19/18 1:50:02 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
lilORANG posted...
also those dopes just sort of had to take him at his word that he was royal. No blood test, just "yup, go ahead and challenge the king for the throne"

he literally showed up wearing the royal ring of the late king's brother.

they had a very good reason to take his word for it.


Not to mention the mouth signature.
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CyricZ
02/19/18 1:51:50 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
He probably planned on breaking Klaue out the whole time to sow discord in Wakanda and then delivering him. Imagine the story now

Klaue sells their precious vibranium, gets captured by the CIA, and then broken out, T'challa returns home empty handed and has to inform them that their vibranium has been sold and Klaue is free, and then Killmonger shows up with Klaue's head and says he is the son of Prince N'Jobu

It would be a nightmare for T'Challa and that was probably Eriks intent the whole time

Bingo. Killmonger did what T'Challa couldn't.
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TrollSlayer11
02/19/18 1:52:43 PM
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L0Z posted...
I think he built their enemy up just to break him down and deliver him to them


This is exactly it. He used Klaw as a pawn to lure out the Black Panther and force his hand, then stole Klaw right out from under him so he could be the one who delivered them from evil.
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Tyranthraxus
02/19/18 1:52:49 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Why did they steal the vibranium hammer? Why did they try and sell it in Korea? Why didnt he just kill Klaw right away and go to Wakanda?


Anyway short summary of these questions is Killmonger wanted to discredit T'Challa by luring him out to capture Klaw and then causing him to fail.

He never needed Klaw to get to Wakanda. He was purely a prop in the conflict between him and T'Challa
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KingCrabCake
02/19/18 1:53:45 PM
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He wanted Klaw to get captured so he could kill Klaw and get in good graces with Wakanda and Then over throw BP...

Idk how people dont get it
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KingCrabCake
02/19/18 1:58:34 PM
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@lilORANG posted...
also those dopes just sort of had to take him at his word that he was royal. No blood test, just "yup, go ahead and challenge the king for the throne"


He had the grandfathers ring...
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TrollSlayer11
02/19/18 2:21:11 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
@lilORANG posted...
also those dopes just sort of had to take him at his word that he was royal. No blood test, just "yup, go ahead and challenge the king for the throne"


He had the grandfathers ring...


He also had the Royal family/Wakandan vibranium tattoo on his inner lip and spoke Wakandan when he announced his father's name and his heritage.

He was clearly legit.

Plus T'Challa, you know the fucking KING OF WAKANDA literally vouched for him and said "Yeah that's my cousin."
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KingCrabCake
02/19/18 2:22:09 PM
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TrollSlayer11 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
@lilORANG posted...
also those dopes just sort of had to take him at his word that he was royal. No blood test, just "yup, go ahead and challenge the king for the throne"


He had the grandfathers ring...


He also had the Royal family/Wakandan vibranium tattoo on his inner lip and spoke Wakandan when he announced his father's name and his heritage.

He was clearly legit.

Plus T'Challa, you know the fucking KING OF WAKANDA literally vouched for him and said "Yeah that's my cousin."


I loved that scene when he walked in like a boss and told them to ask who he was
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lilORANG
02/19/18 2:27:14 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
TrollSlayer11 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
@lilORANG posted...
also those dopes just sort of had to take him at his word that he was royal. No blood test, just "yup, go ahead and challenge the king for the throne"


He had the grandfathers ring...


He also had the Royal family/Wakandan vibranium tattoo on his inner lip and spoke Wakandan when he announced his father's name and his heritage.

He was clearly legit.

Plus T'Challa, you know the fucking KING OF WAKANDA literally vouched for him and said "Yeah that's my cousin."


I loved that scene when he walked in like a boss and told them to ask who he was

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eston
02/19/18 2:35:21 PM
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TrollSlayer11 posted...
Plus T'Challa, you know the fucking KING OF WAKANDA literally vouched for him and said "Yeah that's my cousin."


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TrollSlayer11
02/19/18 2:56:53 PM
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eston posted...
TrollSlayer11 posted...
Plus T'Challa, you know the fucking KING OF WAKANDA literally vouched for him and said "Yeah that's my cousin."



Did you not watch the film? When Killmonger states who he is T'Challa tells the royal court that he's telling the truth.

The word of the king is the final word.

I mean how much more vouching can the guy get?
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MrDrMan
02/19/18 3:37:46 PM
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Killmongers identity definitely was well fleshed out.

-TChalla knew who he was which is why he refused to ask him. TChalla says word for word I know exactly who you are before he says his name.
-He had the tattoo inside his lip.
-He had Prince Njokus ring.
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Akagami_Shanks
02/19/18 6:47:49 PM
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Also wasn't this shit explained in the movie that he specialized in destabilizing countries by Everett K. Exposition?
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Terra-enforcer
02/19/18 6:56:29 PM
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TrollSlayer11 posted...
L0Z posted...
I think he built their enemy up just to break him down and deliver him to them


This is exactly it. He used Klaw as a pawn to lure out the Black Panther and force his hand, then stole Klaw right out from under him so he could be the one who delivered them from evil.

Yup. Klaw has vibranium and is about to trade it. Of course BP would take the bait. Then Kill just makes an ass out of BP by proving that he couldn't stop the trade or kill/retrieve Klaw. Pretty understandable plan.
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Reis
02/19/18 6:59:46 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
He wanted Klaw to get captured so he could kill Klaw and get in good graces with Wakanda and Then over throw BP...

Idk how people dont get it


People like to not pay attention during movies and then complain online about shit that's explained in the movie
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Deadpool_18
02/19/18 7:04:06 PM
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Sparksfanboy posted...
TrollSlayer11 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
@lilORANG posted...
also those dopes just sort of had to take him at his word that he was royal. No blood test, just "yup, go ahead and challenge the king for the throne"


He had the grandfathers ring...


He also had the Royal family/Wakandan vibranium tattoo on his inner lip and spoke Wakandan when he announced his father's name and his heritage.

He was clearly legit.

Plus T'Challa, you know the fucking KING OF WAKANDA literally vouched for him and said "Yeah that's
my cousin."


The more I hear about this movie the weirder it sounds.


Its just a stamp all Wakandans get at a very young age to verify their citizenship. Wakanda is very far removed from the rest of the world.
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Prestoff
02/19/18 7:08:23 PM
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Real quickie question, but were the people that were suppose to receive those Wakanda tech and weapon plans? Was it to the people of african descene to fight back the "colonizers" or just to the world government that will eventually cause chaos?
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Akagami_Shanks
02/19/18 7:09:23 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Real quickie question, but were the people that were suppose to receive those Wakanda tech and weapon plans? Was it to the people of african descene to fight back the "colonizers" or just to the world government that will eventually cause chaos?

It's implied to be to the first one.
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Prestoff
02/19/18 7:11:24 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
Prestoff posted...
Real quickie question, but were the people that were suppose to receive those Wakanda tech and weapon plans? Was it to the people of african descene to fight back the "colonizers" or just to the world government that will eventually cause chaos?

It's implied to be to the first one.


I had a feeling, it was just that Killmonger was trained to learn how to destabilize countries so I thought this was part of his plan to throw other governments into chaos.

Great villain though, I admit it's Killmonger that made the movie really fun for me.
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LightHawKnight
02/19/18 7:11:27 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Real quickie question, but were the people that were suppose to receive those Wakanda tech and weapon plans? Was it to the people of african descene to fight back the "colonizers" or just to the world government that will eventually cause chaos?


The movie tells you that Wakanda has spies all over the world, and the ones that agree with what Killmonger and W'Kabi want was IIRC, London, Hong Kong, and a few other places, so the weapons were going there.
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Prestoff
02/19/18 7:12:48 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Prestoff posted...
Real quickie question, but were the people that were suppose to receive those Wakanda tech and weapon plans? Was it to the people of african descene to fight back the "colonizers" or just to the world government that will eventually cause chaos?


The movie tells you that Wakanda has spies all over the world, and the ones that agree with what Killmonger and W'Kabi want was IIRC, London, Hong Kong, and a few other places, so the weapons were going there.


Ah, I admit I zoned out a little when Killmonger was explaining his plan. Thanks.
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Akagami_Shanks
02/19/18 7:18:23 PM
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London, HK, NY

same places as the Sanctums in Dr Strange
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MonkeyBones23
02/19/18 7:21:40 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
London, HK, NY

same places as the Sanctums in Dr Strange


Isn't that convenient. It kind of took me out of the movie for a moment when they tried to connect it like that.
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hollow_shrine
02/19/18 7:28:26 PM
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MonkeyBones23 posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
London, HK, NY

same places as the Sanctums in Dr Strange


Isn't that convenient. It kind of took me out of the movie for a moment when they tried to connect it like that.

Those are just the places they mentioned. They're in other places too though. N'jobu is on the west coast. Nakia is all over sub-Saharan Africa. And they're not even all aware of each other and their respective missions.
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EnterTheTekken
02/19/18 7:29:52 PM
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It worries me that some people are confused by comic book movies' clear exposition.
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sktgamer_13dude
02/19/18 7:30:58 PM
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MonkeyBones23 posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
London, HK, NY

same places as the Sanctums in Dr Strange


Isn't that convenient. It kind of took me out of the movie for a moment when they tried to connect it like that.

Those are just the only ones that responded to his message and were ready.
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Akagami_Shanks
02/19/18 7:31:17 PM
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considering they're basically the center of commerce for their respective continents, yes it is convenient.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nylonkong
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TrollSlayer11
02/19/18 7:34:06 PM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
It worries me that some people are confused by comic book movies' clear exposition.


Quite worrying.
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KingCrabCake
02/19/18 8:10:29 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
Prestoff posted...
Real quickie question, but were the people that were suppose to receive those Wakanda tech and weapon plans? Was it to the people of african descene to fight back the "colonizers" or just to the world government that will eventually cause chaos?

It's implied to be to the first one.


It was the spies from Wakanda
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