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iiicon posted...

I'm gonna need to dig into sub stone element matching a bit because I don't quite understand it, but I think at this stage it might be better to match weapon types if you have 9 of any type for the bonuses regardless of whether they're R or SR?

because by matching 9 swords (the only weapon type I can fill out an entire grid), my team went from...

that's a pretty big jump!

It tells you on the page what it does. When you're swapping them out, hit the little 'i' next to sub stones. The stat percentages it lists there are what it gives to your entire team.

I don't know if it's a flat percentage boost to all stats or if it's that additional percentage from the substone provided stats

Also I'm up to 10k Gleamstones. I probably should summon at some point

Well I'm just using her as an example. There's going to be farmable memoria I'm sure.

Yeah. Someone tested it. Right now Memoria that say 'allies' applies to the the wearer. Skills that says allies apply to everyone. So it's hard to know if it's intentional and a mistranslation or if it's a bug and should apply to more than the wearer.

The Mana Sword posted...

Not too much of a difference.

Right now, no. Once everyone starts getting everything leveled, it will be a substantial difference. So like the Estelle Memoria gives +25k HP at max level. For the sake of ease, lets say you have 9 of them. So same element heroes would be getting 33750 extra HP, off element 22500 extra HP.

Mega Mana posted...

Rita's Memoria is CRIT Damage +68% to water allies. I'm really interested in building up a good mono-water team at some point.

The wording is wrong/misleading. When it says water allies, it actually only applies to the person wearing it. People aren't sure if it's a big where it isn't applying to everyone and it should or if it's just bad wording.

Ok can confirm. 15% for same element. 10% for different element.

I imagine down the line people will be going for full element teams rather than everyone rocking rainbow teams. Seems like you get 10% of a sub stones stats however if a character matches the sub stone element they get more. From what I read it's apparently 50% more.

Now I don't know if they meant they get 50% of the sub stone stats or 60% of the stats or 15%. Lemme see if I can work it out

Oh yeah there is a universal item for ascension. In the Rainbow Shard store you can trade 10 shards for 1 Ascension or Awakening stone. Doesn't seem like a great deal given 5 shards can get you an SSR ticket.

But that at least gives me hope that they may be obtainable by other means like events or something. I'm sure they will be very scarce but it's possible I guess.

Nevermind, I misread. There is one for fully ascending a character too.

Looking ahead at the challenge log, one of the challenges is to get an SSR Memoria to 100. That requires it to be fully ascended. There isn't a challenge for having a character 5/5 though.

That would lead me to believe that there will be a universal item that can be used for Memoria ascension down the line but not for characters.

Pulled a dupe Leon from my SSR ticket. So I guess the question is, is it better to use it on the Hero or the Memoria Stone.

Looking at Leon

Memoria Stone upgrade: +2% Crit rate and 10 extra levels of stats
Leon upgrade: +1500 HP, +288 ATK, +146 DEF and +5% ATK on MA multiplier

Not sure if 10 levels of Memoria Stone are greater than the boost it gives to Leon. And I guess using it on the Hero has the added benefit of unlocking a skill after you do it 5 times.

Oh I see adorning Memoria Stones is no joke when it comes to gald cost

Hmm, that would probably explain the ridiculously tanky Estelle that I came across in Arena.

Maybe I should have kept the triple Velvet account!

I think the only thing that would stop review bombing is confirmed ownership?

I don't think I've thrown a controller since I was like 10 years old. Games have certainly pissed me off enough to be in a rage but I think I tend to like hit the couch arm or something when it happens

Sent a request to join the guild.

And wow they still haven't fixed the chat bug. I know once you're in a guild you can fix it but figured they would have fixed it normally by now. Like if it's just assigning a chat room that is the issue, how hard can it be to set it up to assign people to a random room on login

I'll just leave it to you as I'm about to head out somewhere

I went with Magilou for my profile because it's fucking Magilou!

I would imagine any sort of tier list put together at release is going to be wonky at best and will change very quickly

Also if people want, I can just make the guild now?

Still can't use chat. I can't even click on the guild or friend chat to try them as it defaults to world chat and gives me the cannot connect error and doesn't let me check any other chats.

Also seems the game defaulted to the max settings for everything for me which is why it was getting hot I think. Changed it it Balanced and High instead of Quality and High, seemed to fix the issue.

I guess I could also try toggling my phone to gaming/performance mode when playing and see if that helps

You can't field a R. R's are memoria only

Man, now I am really glad I lucked out.

I don't want to run the math on it but I'd think off 23 rolls you should have a decent shot at getting 2 or more SSRs like every 4 attempts. Seems like you have gotten the shaft

Actually thinking about it, the heating up on this is extra bad because I've had multiple games running at the same time via split screen without any issues whatsoever. I know I've definitely had 2 games running at the same time but I want to say I've even had 2 games + youtube or the web browser open at the same time. Like physically all running on the screen at the same time not just one open and others in the background.

Hopefully they do something about it as I doubt it's that intensive, I suspect just poorly optimized.

greengravy294 posted...

my phone doesnt run this game so well and its only like 2 years old :(

Even with toned down settings?

If it's any consolation, I think everyones phones are getting murdered by this thing. My phone heats up a lot (and gets the battery chewed up quickly) and I've never had that issue with any other app or game on this phone. My missus has the latest iPhone and has the same issue.

It certainly felt nicer from a reroll perspective but from a rarity / getting more bang for your buck it's worse.

Honestly I think games intentionally want people to reroll as it artificially inflates their user numbers and to some extent download numbers. Also gets people more invested as they are more likely to play if they committed a ton of time to rerolling.

The selector being after the roll would have been nice. I think in an ideal scenario to make most people not extensively reroll you just have to have the starter rolls fixed where you are guaranteed X amount of each rarity regardless. You would get some people rerolling for specific units but I think a lot of people would reroll less or not at all if they knew it was a fixed number of SSRs.

Whilst that is nice but really being able to pick who you want is nicer I guess.

Being able to pick who you want is both a blessing and a curse though because you still feel the need to reroll. Nobody is going to be satisfied with just 1 SSR when there's the option to reroll and get more. And it always feels like if you don't reroll for the extra, you regret it down the line.

You're rerolling a lot quicker than I was at least. Took me 5-10 mins per attempt even on an emulator. Granted I was doing it manually.

On that 5 SSR summon, I actually got 4 SSR from the 10 ticket summon. It was 3 Rainbows normally and then one of the orbs upgraded too.

KamikazePotato posted...

For fun (I'm bored), I decided to multitask some emulators and continuously reroll until I get either:

One of Velvet/Yuri/Lloyd + 1 SSR
OR
3 SSR

Not including the freebie they give you.

Roll 1: Sorey
Roll 2: No SSR
Roll 3: Sorey, Kanata
Roll 4: No SSR
Roll 5: Yuri
Roll 6: No SSR

More to follow! Also whoever was upset Zelos wasn't in: he is, you just can't choose him for your first character as he's not a SSR or SR.

This just makes me feel like I got insanely lucky with my rerolls. My rerolls were:

Roll 1: Stahn
Roll 2: Yuri + Luke
Roll 3: Velvet x2 + Luke + Rita + Kanonno
Roll 4: No SSR
Roll 5: No SSR
Roll 6: Cress + Sorey
Roll 7: Stahn + Luke
Roll 8: Leon + Lloyd + Kanonno + Sorey + Aegis

Selected Velvet on all of them (including the dupe one)

The way around getting the daily dungeons to work is to set your phone to Tokyo time and they work. So for whatever reason they have global set to Japan time which is probably what is causing the inconsistencies with when the day ticked over too

Hopefully this will get fixed pretty quickly since it seems a very simple fix

UshiromiyaEva posted...

They did just put a notice out saying to restart the app and it should apply a fix for the chat issue.

Didn't work for me.

I mean the game is riddled with bugs at the moment. I'm sure they will get ironed out.

Apparently they wanted to delay the game but then pushed it out anyway for whatever reason.

Nope. Chat won't connect when I open it up. It just hangs and then after a while timeouts and prompts me to try to load again or cancel

Has anyone else been able to get chat to work for the challenge mission?

I'm not gonna pull for a while. That banner isn't going anywhere soon and I'm sure it won't take people long to work out whether it's worth pulling now or not.

That being said, it's a bit easy for me to say that when I can field a full team of SSR.

Oh right. Friend code

006064968

I'll tell you one thing that minorly irks me. Why on earth is Velvet a Wind character and not Dark?

Yikes, no shit that story took a dark turn.

May not have been dailies then. I assumed dailies reset at the same time as I got my 'Day 2' login bonuses

Seems the daily reset is 4pm in the afternoon EST. Least it just reset for me.

Oh no missed out on all my dailies yesterday as I did nothing but reroll then went to do other stuff lol

The virus is considered BSL-2.

No clue. Seems that any questions about dupes on the reddit go unanswered which I guess is to be expected with the little info we have. I'm guessing the people who beta tested didn't get to that point.

Ok. Now I really have to work out how much dupes are worth

Account 1 - Velvet x3 / Luke / Rita / Kanonno

Account 2 - Velvet / Lloyd / Sorey / Kanonno / Leon / Aegis (Added bonus SR Magilou!)

I'm assuming the second account is better by a landslide unless I want a super Velvet (which I may). Actually, I can give whichever account I don't use to the missus so she doesn't have to reroll.

kateee posted...

what's the file size once installed?

i have like 1 gig left of space on my phone

Like 1.6GB

Oh and yes dupes are for improving Memoria Crystals. How vital they are, I don't know. Given that I wanted to absolutely use Velvet, pulling Velvet dupes may not have been the worst thing for me. Depends on if they give a universal item to improve them or if you have to solely rely on dupes.

Probably going to do 5-10 rerolls and if I get nothing better, stick with it.

Yeah, I think it's better when you can't plan ahead. It's when people can plan ahead that the meta gets more cancerous because that's what a lot of people do. Whereas if you can't plan ahead, you get less overall accounts using the preferred meta and theoretically a more diverse meta. Plus you don't get Japanese accounts hopping over to global to dominate.

I was going to say it probably widens the gap between normal players and whales but even that might not be true. Sometimes it takes time to discover something is meta defining so only the whales who pull for everything will truly get the advantage.

Valkyrie Connect has a 20% rate for their highest rarity but that doesn't really count because they purposedly clutter their drop pool with absolute shit which appears on every banner mixed in with the banner items. Then banner items have drop rates varying from like 0.05% to 0.25% with off banner items being literally worthless.

Well was able to finally link it but took some workarounds. So now I can actually try to reroll for better. Probably give it a few tries and then take it

BlackMageJawa posted...

Is this not like most gachas where you can (or rather, have to) feed dupes to each other to reach their true strength?

I'm not sure. I'm trying to find out. It could be irrelevant as I made that roll on my first attempt on an emulator reroll and the emulator crashes when I attempt to bind via Bandai Namco ID anyway. I could theoretically try bind via my Google Play Account which shouldn't have the screen that causes the crash but since that would bind it to my main Play Account, I'm refraining for now.

I got a 6 SSR account on my third try but 2 were dupe Velvets (who I picked on the selector). So not sure if I should keep it (Velvet / Luke / Rita / Kanonno)