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Scooby-Doo is many things, but it's definitely not a hard-core Tekken fan's idea of fun; this I can say with sheer sincerity.

Honestly? I don't know yet. Super Robot Wars 30 comes out soon and I'm really looking forward to doing a blind playthrough of it as soon as possible and don't want to open nominations until I'm finished. Which... kinda makes it hard to give a time frame, since I have no idea how long that will take.

Sorry. Wish I had something more specific to offer, but I love SRW and can't pretend I'll focus on anything else when it comes out, so plans are kinda on hold.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

he did the soundtrack for the commodore 64 version of the last ninja

Oh hey. It's been a while since I listened to the soundtrack, but I remember liking it. Skimming the tracks rather quickly, I think I was most drawn to the Dungeon theme which is quite distinctive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shLboPmbibM

Though it sounds more like a derelict spaceship theme than a dungeon one to me, it is an interesting soundscape.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i like most songs on hissing fauna, are you the destroyer? (not sure if you ever did finish that album) better.

I don't think I finished the album after getting to that one song... can't recall any other song on the album either (other than "Cato As A Pun", the actually nominated song), since I only listened to them once a few years ago.

I might try listening to the other songs again at some point.
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Chocolate cake, keep it for the lulz.

I didn't want to derail the ranking topic (or really go on record with this statement), but after listening to The ArchAndroid, I do have to say this somewhere:

Regardless of personal feelings, I have to admit that Kevin Barnes is quite talented and his surprise appearance turned out to be one of the album's highlights.
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Chocolate cake, keep it for the lulz.

Okay, old writeup links removed and sheet updated with all songs from the second topic. Songs nominated multiple times have only their most recent score recorded to avoid data overload.

...will start working on the 631 from the third topic in the near-ish future.
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It's possible. I figure if I insist on doing something with the old songs, I could just type up everything relevant in advance and then just paste those in the sign-up topic periodically while I'm working on the actual ranking. So instead of just a generic "listened to 10 songs today" message, there'd be a "listened to 10 songs today and also here's some new thoughts on an old song" message. So there'd at least be some content while people are waiting for the actual ranking to start.

Just might be too much work for what amounts to filler text. So I'll think about it? If I'm still interested in going over the old songs and talking about them after I'm done with everything I need to do, then that's probably the least intrusive method of handling it. No promises though.



And I'll definitely keep adding the Rankings to the sheet then. Will probably remove the links to old writeups unless someone specifically wants them around though; definitely the most time consuming part and I'm not particularly excited about copying another 800 links over to the sheet anyway.
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Speaking of the list of previous nominations, does anyone have any thoughts on how I could make it easier to read or more convenient in some way? I don't have a lot of experience on this stuff:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11EyHgbDCHNZd86SwetcXppwR9vEDi7W6owS9dbrmfb8/edit?usp=sharing

(Only covers the Mega Man topic, the first ranking, and a very small percentage of the second; still very in progress, but gives an example of how it might look).

Right now, I've got it sorted alphabetically by nominator--so anyone who just wants to know what they personally nominated can easily look through their past nominations without having to scroll through the entire list.

...also, is the "song ranking" column a bit superfluous? I feel like the Score tab showing the song's most recent score gives enough indication on how the song did, leaving the rankings to just kinda take up space.

]Could probably remove the links to archived writeups too, to be quite honest. That would certainly speed up the data entry considerably and I'm not sure the links are of any benefit to anyone in the first place.]
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80 minutes feels a bit low; I'd still like people to be able to nominate an album (if they want to) and still have room to play around with extra nominations. Two hours sounds like a good compromise... looking into it a bit, even a few of the Order nominations from this topic came in at under two hours, so most people would either get more songs or be unimpacted anyway.

(I hadn't noticed both Live albums are less than an hour long, so it's still possible to get two studio albums in at the reduced time.)

I'm definetly still working on a list of all nominations, will be done before the next topic. Need to do a few more things to make it easier to read and what not... not much sense entering more data until it's an easy-to-use format.
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It shouldn't be too much to listen to... it'd take a while to get through, but I've got plenty of time and 631 songs didn't take all that long, all things considered. I feel pretty confident in the amount of time.

Could be difficult for the nominators though. Finding that many songs to nominate would be a challenge. Though people don't have to use all their time, so hopefully that takes some of the pressure off.
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Yeah, fair enough. Also, in retrospect, pointing out songs I've lowered my opinion of completely unprompted would be... pointlessly cruel? So, I'll just go ahead and scrap that idea. Thank you both.
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Its really too soon to start planning the next topic, but if anyones around, I have a few questions that might influence things. (Presuming the next topic looks anything like Im imagining it will, which it might not as I change plans on a constant basis until one just happens to be posted.)

In no particular order:

1: Would it be worth trying something like you may nominate up to three hours worth of music?

Instead of the traditional nominate X number of songs or this topics alignment gimmick, people are given a month to nominate as many songs as they want until they hit around three hours worth of music. I actually like the way it sounds, but it requires a bit more effort on everyones parttheyd have to list how long each nomination or album is and keep track of the total time, but its a gimmick I havent personally done & it doesnt incentivize or punish any particular nomination strategy; going with albums or a custom playlist filled with unique songs, you have the same length of time to play with.

But I also dont want to discourage getting a lot of nominators by asking too much of people, so Im kinda hesitant on it. Does it sound like something anyone here would want to try?

2: Automatically including a bunch of songs from past rankingsis it too self-indulgent?

As Ive said a lot recently, I want to revisit the 200 Mega Man song ranking I did with Se7en & my first solo ranking. So, Ive been thinking of taking those 400* songs and inserting them into the next ranking. I have a lot of reasons for doing this:

Mega Man

The rankings used a convoluted scoring system that rather limited how much influence my opinions had, leading to some of my favorite songs getting relatively low scores. I know why I did it that way and it was an important part of building up my confidence to attempt actual topics, but the placements feel rather... arbitrary. Its well past time I actually fix the list and do it properly this time.

Solo Topic #1

I think my musical tastes have changed a fair amount since this ranking was done. Also, in a lot of ways, it was designed to be the antithesis of the Mega Man topic; while MM had convoluted scoring, this topic didnt feature scores for any song at all. [I just kinda made up numbers for the sheet.]

So, I think itd be nice to see how my current views impact things and to actually give these songs a proper score.

General Points In Favor

It wouldnt delay the main ranking or take much time; since I have the full list of songs, itd just be something I listen to and assign scores/write-ups to over the coming months whenever I feel like working on it.

Having familiar songs I already know gives me something easy to work with while Im playing with formatting and deciding exactly how I want the topic to look & how I want to organize my notes, and so forth. Much like the R#s this time, itd help things run smoother if I had something to do a trial run with.

Speaking of which, itd be pretty impossible for me to pull any R# shenanigans if 400* songs that would have been R#d are actually in the main ranking from the start. </.<

Some Arguments Against

It could be really anticlimactic if a song I already love like maclir or Aqua Man wins. You spent all that time finding things to nominate and none of them were as good as this thing nominated years ago, is not exactly the best message for a topic to go out on... of course, I tend to be distracted by whatever my new obsession is, so I dont know how likely this hypothetical even is.

With so many songs being automatically added to the list, theres a chance we could have entire days where all the eliminations are songs from past topics. When youre waiting to see how your nominations did, scrolling through a bunch of songs no one actually wanted to see discussed could be overwhelmingly tedious.

...so... definitely some points for and against it. And I know I could just make a separate topic for these songs or break them into their own little ranking, but I kinda like the idea of directly comparing them to whatever newer nominations show up...

[And I could hypothetically add even more songs by adding those from the second ranking, but theres less reason to do so. Those songs actually had proper scores and rankings, they were ranked much more recently, and it looks like thered be fewer radical shakeups so its less interesting to revisit.]

*Technically, at least one song (Dynamite RavEMIYA) is likely gone forever. Even if I put the component songs into Rave.DJ, some changes to the site result in old mashups not being exactly the way they use to be. And I cant exactly promise to find new links to every song thats had its original link removed (though Ill try), so its more 399 at best than 400... but 400 sounds better and doesnt require an explanation.
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Saving in case Lasa or someone still wants it around.
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Pat Metheny - Orchestrion: 60 points, based largely on the outro--I actually really like it once it slows down for some reason, I find that very pleasing and relaxing. The more energetic parts of the song (particularly those right before said outro) kinda remind me of Mario Kart; it just feels like the type of thing that would play on a somewhat goofy beach racing sequence. Either way, it managed to be generally pleasing throughout it's fifteen minute runtime and didn't have any particular low points or moments that I didn't like, so it's a well made song.

No real progress on archiving things, decided to take a few days off and rest before the endless barrage of VGMC songs and the second solo topic isn't as interesting to revisit--I don't think my tastes changed as drastically since that topic, so while the older topics were full of "wow, I can't believe that song got -that- placement" moments, this one's just a lot of "yeah, that sounds about right" tedious data entry. I will get back to it--for the sake of making it easier to see what was nominated in the past at the very least--but it's harder to stay motivated for it.
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Oublie-moi is almost as good. It's definitely interesting trying to compare the lyrics between both versions and French is still an underrepresented language around these topics, but I feel a bit more connection with the English one. (Though hearing that version first may have skewed my opinion). 68 points; still like it a good amount.

Relentless Years (Theme): 80 points. Great song. I'm a big fan of the instrumental portions (it has low tones. I seem to love low tones.) and he has a pleasing voice that is easy to connect and resonate with in spite of any language barriers.
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After a few days listening to Kanye for the album ranking topic, Im back to get those six songs. Going to go backwards through the list for no apparent reason: Dont recognize any of the artist names, so this should be interesting.

Coeur De Pirate - Carry On: 70 points. I like this one quite a bit.

Valravn - Kelling: Very different. We dont usually get many Icelandic songs and the instruments are definitely harsher than, say, a pop song. Probably 60 points? I have a hard time grasping how much I like it because its so unexpected, but I dont think Id let something this unique drop below the 60 point level.

Alekos - Departure: 54 points. Its nice, but it didnt leave much of an immediate impression. I like it, but not enough to really remember anything other than a vague sense of niceness.

Perotin - Beata viscera (monophonic conductus): 52 points. I like the idea herethese types of chants and sacred music are a genre that are a once a year rarity to these topics (the all-consuming hatred I had towards classical music back at the first topic is likely responsible for this, even though Ive mellowed considerably on the topic lately)but Im not quite feeling it. Its not quite impactful enough to hit a level of spirituality that I love, but its also different enough that I generally enjoyed my time with it.

Chon - Suda: 54 points. Its pretty nice. A mellow rock instrumental thats kinda relaxing, though not overwhelmingly so.

Jan Garbarek - Parce Mihi Domine: 66 points. Gregorian Chants meets jazz sax, huh? Im totally here for this. I may try a few other songs from the album eventually.
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I wasnt planning on locking the topicno real reason to and Im more likely to properly archive things if I have to occasionally post a progress update here. (Also, I went ahead and finished copying data from the first solo ranking topic. Progress!)

And people can still suggest songs, though Id prefer they limit it to like five songs or something; not to be rude about it, but VGMCs nomination period is going to completely consume my free time when it opens on the 15th, so I dont want to risk having more songs than I can plausibly listen to before that hits.
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Aww, guess thats one more song that I wont be able to give an updated ranking to. If I ever get around to doing that at any rate. (Still need to finish properly archiving things. Im still not even through my first solo topic since I havent done any work for a few days.)

And thank you for your participation!



Im supposed to listen to a few Sleepytime Gorilla Museum songs, so lets see which songs come immediately after The Donkey-Headed Adversary.

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Phthisis: I dont know. Its certainly differenta bit too loud and discordant, but I appreciate it enough that it should get more than 50 points.

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Bring Back The Apocalypse: Im sure I would have loved this three years ago, but this feels like an unpleasant type of oddness. Less than 50 points, more than 30, so somewhere in that range probably.

And the next song is a 10 minute long epic about the Unabomber, so Im going to go back and find a song of theirs from a different album. Spotify thinks Sleep Is Wrong is one of their more popular songs, so well go with that one for now.

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Sleep Is Wrong: Ehh... not for me, but the band is definitely strange enough that I dont really mind it... about the same score as Bring Back The Apocalypse.

...okay so I seem to have just liked Donkey-Headed Adversary, but the band is still intriguing enough that Im not opposed to hearing other songs by them in the future. Just not the type of thing Id jump into without specific suggestions.



Also supposed to try more Yello, so lets just jump to whatevers popular on Spotify at the moment:

*plays three seconds of Oh Yeah* Oh. This song. Lets just pretend this doesnt exist and go to the second song.

Yello - The Race: 54.72 points, no comments right now.

Yellow, Till Bronner - Till Tomorrow: Pretty much an instrumental and Im really only here because I love the way his voice sounds, so this is not exactly what I wanted from them. Exactly 50 points, I guess? I didnt dislike it or anything.

And there are enough albums here that clicking around blindly seems... unlikely to be worth the time. Still, I do love his voice, so if there are any songs focused on his voice like the actually nominated song did, Id be excited to hear it. Just not excited enough to keep clicking blindly in hopes of finding it.



I clicked a few Triple-Q mashups and didnt find any worth even commenting on, so lets scratch them and move directly to MASTER BOOT RECORD:

MASTER BOOT RECORD - VIRTUAVERSE.GIF: It really feels like its supposed to be something I love since I do like synthesizers and this is a very synth heavy song (and band), but I dont feel any connection to the song beyond I like some of the instruments involved here. Slightly more than 50 points, I think.

MASTER BOOT RECORD - Elvira: Starts off promising (theres some very low tones around the 40 second mark that Im instantly drawn toward) and the glitchy sounding after the 4 minute mark is interesting, but most of the middle of the song doesnt quite appeal to me. Still, definitely the best song Ive heard from the band thus far, 60 points?

MASTER BOOT RECORD - CRASH: 50 points. Has an intensity that I associate with battle themes... this is very rarr, lets blow up the giant boss that is a helicopter or something, rarr, *assault rifle sounds*!!! which I find a bit dull... its certainly not bad, but not really my type of thing.



And I think thats every specific request, isnt it? Theres a few things I added to the list myself, but I think I may be about done listening to things here. Still need to finish updating my spreadsheet of former nominations (Ill resume working on that tomorrow), but this topic may be winding down soon.

...which works since I needed to finish everything before VGMC started, so this may work out quite nicely.
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The Bill & Ted song was my attempt to find the weirdest song I could think of that I hadnt learned about purely through Board 8 (so no Minotaur Shock, bunbleman, or Venetian Snares). And it was definitely odd.

In universe Bill & Ted were trying to create a song that would unite all humanity. Their most recent attempt was THISa chaotic mishmash of instruments and cultural influences thrown into a blender while maintaining some semblance of a rock song. Its meant to be terrible, but its not without its charms... also, I think its kinda neat that they spent the effort making a full version of the song; only the first little bit of it plays in the actual film, but they took a one-off joke and ran all the way with it, and I appreciate the dedication to the bit.

...also I love songs credited to fictional characters and I have a tendency to start rambling about the Bill & Ted soundtracks completely unprompted, so it made sense as a nomination. Something weird for you, something fictional for me, from a series I wont shut up about. Win-Win-Win.



Streets of Gold was a token furry nomination, but I had a fair amount of justification for it:

1: Its performed by a talented pop artist instead of a voice actor, lending it a bit of credibility.

2: While sung by a dog in the movie, theres nothing actually furry or animalistic in the lyrics. If you dont know what its from, it can easily pass itself off as a completely normal song. (A fact that you alluded to yourself by pointing out that it works almost as well devoid of context)

3: As far as singing Disney animal songs go, this is one of the more obscure options available. Oliver & Company was never one of their most popular films, Streets of Gold isnt the biggest song from the film, and the full version is exclusive to the soundtrackeven if you have the entire film memorized, theres a decent chance you wouldnt have heard this extended cut.

(Of course, the end result of an 80s pop star performing an 80s pop song is something likely too mainstream sounding for this topic; honestly, Im just happy that you didnt completely hate it.)

...I actually hadnt thought about the sax before. In retrospect, I could have just had this double as the sax representation and used the Kenny G nom on something else. Ah well.
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Alumael - Primula no Tabekata (You can not eat sweet things): 60 points. It's surprisingly nice--his voice is kinda relaxing, so it's very pleasing to listen to.

Alumael - Squall: 59.92. Pretty similar, slightly less relaxing. Still nice.

Alumael - Shinkonsui (Deep Coma): 73 points. I feel confident in this being the best of the three songs.

sumeshiii - Sotsugyo Sashin: 59 points. Good singer, but I think I prefer Alumael personally.

Enma Ruri - stargazer: 74 points. Quite good, surprisingly emotional.

ViANKiE - ONNA: 59.50 points; the early parts of the song are fantastic. Very "low-lit pool hall" type ambiance that I am totally here for... then the song picks up and discards that for something with a more upbeat swing that I'm less interested in.

Ushio Narumi - Kageri (short ver.): Somewhere in the 75 to 80 point range. He does have a distinctive voice which contrasts nicely with the smooth feeling of the music. I'd say it's the best song tonight (thus far), but I don't know that I think it's a whole tier above Ruri & Alumael. I also don't know that I don't think it's on a higher tier. One of those songs that needs more listens on different days.

Kiritani Komugi - Nonstop Adventure: Hey, apprentice giraffe! I didn't remember her name, but it's nice seeing her again. 60 points; a bit too loud, but her energy is a bit infectious and she always makes me smile. Feels like the type of song that would keep getting moved up a ranking list... I can already see myself trapped in a "aww, it's so cute and fun, I don't wanna eliminate it yet..." loop where it rises a hundred places.

Amakawa Hano - Home Sweet Home: 60 points. Slightly cuter than the original version.

Maibyou Kusuri - Aishite Aishite Aishite: The lyrics and story are interesting, but I'm less into the actual song... 57-ish points? Still want to hear it again later though as it's more intriguing than most songs.

Nema Ui (Okinawa mascot vtuber) - Umiwatari: 56 points? It's nice enough.

...Kinda want to go back and give some more points to Alumael's songs, but I suppose leaving a note here is good enough.
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T.M. Revolution - INVOKE: Actually, I don't think I've heard this before. I wasn't really watching anime when Seed came out, so I never actually saw an episode of it or Seed Destiny. And the song didn't appear in any of the Super Robot Wars games I've played either...

I'm reasonably familiar with the general plot (G Generation Cross Rays did a decent job recapping all the major moments), but the music is new. I think. (Gundam Versus had a variety of songs from assorted Gundam anime, so it may or may not have appeared there.)

I rather the lyrics on this. They're a bit cheesy, but in a way I like.

Every time we hurry past each other, we hit and tear ourselves on impact and we feel the pain of each other's wings

Blunt pain and non-human metaphors, yes. Nothing new, but I like what I like.

Song is a bit more pulsing than I'd like and this isn't my favorite singer, but it has enough high points that I'd say I like it. Exactly 60 points feels right.



Sputrip - Summertime (Live): 53 points. "Decent" seems like a good way of describing it.

Sputrip - Breeze in the Sun (Live): I think I actually prefer their solo verses here over the other version, as there's something about the live performance that feels more pure. The group singing is a step down though. Makes it hard to tell which one I prefer; let's just call it a draw for now.

Sputrip - Plastic Love (Live): A pretty good version of the song actually. Somewhere in the 60 point range, probably around 67-ish?

Hekina Ail - Os-Uchuujin (Ground Control to Psychoelectric Girl anime OP): 62 points? I like her character, I like the lyrics, not a fantastic song but I like it anyway. That sounds like a low-60s type of writeup.

Yunorl - Nightscape: 55 points. It's fine, but no moments really stand out and it feels a bit longer than it needs to be.
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Thank you! And yeah, things are good now.

Not as large an update as planned as I spent the day playing Neco Drop 2 instead... since it's an April Fool's Day thing, I wanted to make sure I unlocked everything before it vanished. We still have time to get through a few more vtuber songs:



Nemukawa Yumena - Ne Ni Ge de Reset! / Escape to Sleep and Reset! (Lucky Star character song): 90.66 ; a candidate for cutest song in the topic, though I'd have to re-listen to other songs to be sure.

Nemukawa Yumena - Poketto Kara Kyun Desu: 72. Fairly nice, though it suffers from being a few steps behind the previous song. Would be interested in hearing it on a different day, separated from other similar songs.

Tsukuri Kinohoshi - Future Drawing: 62 points. It's a nice song that I like, though it doesn't really stand out much on first impression. Also, should I credit "Kotaro Hayashi" sonewhere here? What little I see online gives her equal credit on this song.

Tsukuri Kinohoshi - Bokura Dake no Hoshi: 69 points; this has a funkier bass line than I would expect from vtuber pop music. It gives it a rather distinct sound that I'm kinda digging, I just don't know if it's enough to carry it to the next tier.

...at least I hope that's a bass, I never know what I'm listening to, but it's certainly funky.

......eh, fine, go up to 71 points for now and I'm leaving a special mark here so I can find this later.



Tsukuri Kinohoshi feat. YuNi & Kano - Sengoku Food Fighter: 53-ish points? Individually I like everyone here, but this song doesn't seem to really suit any of them and it's... well, I still kinda like it.

Animare - Cantare!: Too many singers at once makes this slightly unpleasant in places. Probably a high 40s type of song.

Sputrip - Breeze in the Sun: 64 points. Another in the line of "good songs that I like but don't love".

Tsukuri Kinohoshi - Bokura Dake no Hoshi (Revisited): Decided I wanted to hear it again immediately, so let's jump it up to 94 points. My topic, I'll revise points every 20 minutes if it amuses me, meow.
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Apologies again for delays. Personal drama stuff should be resolved now; should do the album ranking topic tomorrow, then get back to this the day after. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
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Also, I know I keep saying I disagree with my old rankings, but the middle of the list is positively stacked.

101: The Dear Hunter - The Moon/Awake: The first song of theirs to be nominated and it's from Act V. Definitely want to hear again with the added context from this ranking.

100: George Lam - 10.12 Inches: My reaction to seeing this was "woo! I loved that song!", so how is it just barely in the top half??

99: Set It Off - N.M.E: I made fun of the song, sure, but it *still* gets stuck in my head periodically.

98: Fair to Midland - Short-Haired Tornado: I am always up for their incomprehensible lyrics.

97: Kacy Hill - Dinner: Memorable for being incredibly unmemorable. I always enjoyed it while listening, but forget it entirely within moments. It's like, "oh yeah, that dog walking song, I really liked it... I think?" and I'm surprisingly excited to at least have a name for this one. Because it's been years since I heard it, but I still occasionally reminsce about it--I always remember the video had dogs and that I liked it, but no further details. Not an artist, a title, a single lyric, nothing.



That is a heck of a lineup to be stranded in the middle of the pack.
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Still archiving old topics, but want to revisit one writeup in particular:

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Song Name: Broken Promise [Dreams]
Song Origin: Toonami
Song Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfadJj4d5K4

Nominator: Mega Mana (4/5)

On the one hand, I don't think this works as well without the visuals and at least some knowledge of the anime shown. It's also a bit overly reliant on Outlaw Star footage.

On the other, it's one of the rare videos on this list to hit me with positive memories & nostalgia, and I can't downvote anything Gundam Wing related... even if it is just a two and a half second shot of Heero's face.

[FINAL NOTES: Seriously, list needs more Gundam.]

[FINAL-ER NOTES: I didn't even mention the use of Jet's voice actor. Everything about this video is nostalgia cranked up to 11; the choice of voice, the choice of anime, the timeframe this commercial is from. I don't think any nomination on the list triggered as many positive memories as this one.]

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I did not remember asking for more Gundam related songs, but after seeing a song explicitly getting bonus points for two and a half seconds of Gundam Wing, it kinda seems obvious why a Gundam Wing song won the R# category.
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You're welcome! Also, I should thank you, as it finally motivated me to start archiving things and going over the old rankings.

So very, very many things I regret at the Mega Man topic & my first solo ranking. I may actually rerate everything one of these days.

EDIT: Forgive the lack of ratings. Was busy yesterday and just didn't want to do anything today. May take a few more days off for personal reasons, but will keep archiving things. Data entry doesn't require a lot of focus or motivation.
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Rockman Strategy - Track 21:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEHavH6VUjs
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And I now have the MM topic archived. It was a thing, but it was a learning experience. I wouldn't have been confident enough to do any normal ranking topics without this abnormal thing.
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Still working on going through the Mega Man Song topic, but I actually just noticed something cute Se7en did:

Se7ebthrust posted...

-[18th]- MM4-[Ending][36/4]=[9.00]
[Elimination Pie %]---][][][][][][][][]||[8]
[Loop Complexity]---][][][][][][][][][]|[9]
[Sound Bias]---][][][][][][][][][][][10]
[Vibe-o-meter]---][][][][][][][][][]|[9]
{This is absolutely a fantastic ending theme imo. It's got a nice steady beat and a pretty decent looping sequence. It does unfortunately become slightly redundant if you listen to the extended version for too long but that's just because you think the song is gonna stop over and over. It's almost the same effect as Lambchop's "This is the song that doesn't end" song. Anyway, I can't really imagine any other tune that would have been a better ending to MM4.}
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Raetsel posted...

And on an unrelated note: I think Se7en is the first person I've seen make a reference to Lamb Chop's Play-Along. If he only posted a link to the end credits, that would have passed for one of my write-ups!

A year later he would post the End Credits, nominating them at my first ranking. It was such a sweet callback to our joint ranking topic and I never noticed.
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Time **** - Isolated Showers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjIfMrTMxFU

Stealing one of Simoun's nominations from Mycro's topic, so wouldn't be surprised if you heard it. Can't think of anything else to nominate though.
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I don't know that I'd really count a group performance as her song, but fair enough.

Kazuya Okada - Otogi -Ryu-: 63 points? Dunno, want to listen to it again, which is a good sign.

Rime - Kanbi na Muhou/Luscious Lawless: 58 points. I rather liked the instruments and backing music.

Isekai Joucho & Harusaruhi - World Calling: 48 points. Not really a fan of how either of them sound on this particular track.

KMNZ LITA - Sayonara Midnight: Ehh... not really in the mood for this song right now, but it probably would have done fantastic a few months ago. We'll say 60 points for right now?

Neko Hacker feat. KMNZ LIZ - Home Sweet Home: 58 points. It's nice, but I'm not as into it as I should be.

Yumeba Ku & Kunoichiko - Pardon?: 64 points. Is cute.

Kanade Kanon - Bataille Decisive: 23 points.

Vivienne Kensington - Viva La Vida: 80 points. Too adorable to get any less, regardless of actual quality.



And I was supposed to revisit Riverside almost two weeks ago, so I guess I'll give them two more chances.

RIVERSIDE - Time Travellers (Single Version): 34 points. This song bores me. It's fine, I'm aware it's performed well, I just don't care.

Riverside - We Got Used To Us: 55 points. Better and I generally like it, but it still feels a bit dull.
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Nevermind, figured out the problem with the app and it's working now. yay.
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Blargh. Google Sheets app started crashing every five minutes and now that I'm around 50 songs in, it's crashing roughly every three minutes. So I'll just have to say that's just not an option and move on.
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Kano - Nadamesukashi Negotiation: Not bad, 58 points.

Kano - Compass Song: Another song of hers in the high 60s point range. Might be her best song this topic, but I'd have to go back to listen to some of the others again.

And I wanted to hear something by Koko, so let's go to her channel:

Koko - Hearts: 70 points. I had quite low expectations since it was her first song and you don't care for her, but she's actually pretty good.

Koko - Kiss This World: And going from her first song to the most recent. 66 points; not quite as good, but I still like it.

And back to the songs I'm supposed to be listening to:

Invisible Takashi - My Greatest Morning Routine: 54 points. Video was oddly charming.

Daidai Myao - Chiisana Shiawase (Little Happiness): 66 points. Nice, happy little tune. ...Which makes sense with the title, yes.

Laz (flute) & Shell (Piano/Celesta) - Snow White -hiver-: Very peaceful song. 70 points.

Daidai Myao - Do Cats Dream of Lo-Fi?: 54 points. Kinda nice, but a definite step down in terms of relaxing BGM. Still, not bad.
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Not sure if Ill ever actually get around to finishing it, but Im trying to collect and organize data on past ranking topics. At the very least, it should give me some experience using the Google Sheets app to organize things:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11EyHgbDCHNZd86SwetcXppwR9vEDi7W6owS9dbrmfb8/edit

Not much to it right now, since its a very slow process. Working through the Mega Man topic first, since its technically my first ranking topic? Had a completely insane scoring system that led to lots of stupidity... like a song described as being a torture from Hell getting the equivalent of a 3/10 because nothing makes sense on any type of level. At least I learned from the experience, infuriatingly inane as it was.

(Only about 25 songs in because, like I said, it is slow. But if I chip away it a bit each day, eventually I might have something worthwhile.)
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

It's funny you put House of Balloons, as today is the 10 year anniversary of the project!

Huh. That is a pretty neat coincidence!
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5. JAMES - SPACE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94NAbDBDsR8

And we end my train of thought with another song that was ranked too low. Space had a decent score77.50 points with a ranking of #141st placebut it deserves a score somewhere in the 90s. Its another song that Ive been listening to quite a bit lately. It popped up one of my Daily Mixes on Spotify and has been on my On Repeat list for a couple weeks now.

Its possibly the most complicated song on this miniature list, gradually building from hypnotic minimalist vocals at the intro to U2-esque pop rock by the outro, its not really a song I got on my first listen. Or third. Or seventh.

Even after the topic ended, this wasnt exactly one of the songs I intended to go back toit just randomly showed up one night and I decided yeah, I like that, I wouldnt mind hearing it again. And I dont really know when it happened, but somehow being free of having to care about what the song was doing or having to figure out how to do a writeup about it, I just started really enjoying it. It was always something I was happy to hear again and managed to sneak its way onto my most listened songs. Which it definitely deserves, I love the song now, but it took quite a while from the end of the ranking for it to work its magic.

(The Kings - This Beat Goes On / Switchin To Glide followed a similar trajectory of getting a fairly low score, but growing when it randomly showed up on Spotify one night. I think that particular song was two rankings ago? I really should make a full list of what songs were nominated by who & when & where the songs placed, but theres over 1000 songs to collect and organize data on...)

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2: ITEACHVADER - WIN THE RACE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZEPgLkzhwE

Its pretty easy to follow the train of thought on this one: We go from something with serious subject matter to the exact opposite, a literal cartoon.

The most interesting thing about this song is that its perpetually in second place. It was second place in the initial version of the list (based only on first impressions), it was second place in the final version of the rankings, and its the second valid answer I thought of for these posts.

Anyway, I love the song, but I cant think of anything new to say about it. I love cartoons, I love Sonic, I love happy dancing & singing Robotnik, this is very much my type of thing.

...I suppose nows a good place to say that I probably undervalued Hedgehog Stew when I listened to it earlier in the post ranking. Ive actually gone back to listen to it a fair number of times & would be listening to it more frequently if it were on Spotify. I have to go out of my way to listen to things on YouTube, so it hasnt quite gotten played on an endless loop like some other songs that are easier to listen to, but its definitely much closer to Win The Race in quality than I gave it credit for.

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3. NUAGE - IM GONNA CARRY ON:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8DjVkq8tYA

Well, you cant think of song that didnt win without immediately following with song that did win, so heres the first place song! Its memorable because it won.

More seriously, I usually dont like these types of dance songs, so its notable for being the only song of its genre to reach the highest tier of songs & to have actually beat out 630 other songs for first place. I havent listened to it all that often because, much like Win The Race & Hedgehog Stew, I really need to listen to it on YouTube. I think there is a version of Im Gonna Carry On on Spotify, but it sounded off and was rather unpleasant compared to how this particular YouTube upload did. Though that could have been my imagination.

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4. THE WEEKND - HOUSE OF BALLOONS / GLASS TABLE GIRLS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ex38L8xtNI

I think my mind was trying to jump from song in first place to song in last place and missed. Maybe? I know there was originally a three way tie for last:

There was a Tool song that was at the bottom for inaccurate reasons, which was later moved up the list a bit. Its definitely one of the more memorable songs because, of all my rankings, it is the only song to have its score and ranking changed in the middle of a topic after being eliminated. But I didnt think about it as one of the first five and dont really want to talk about it, outside of referencing it here.

I Run Rap, which is definitely in last place and I stand by its position.

And then there were a lot of songs by The Weeknd near the bottom of the list. I think, after the first listen, there was something stupid like 16 Weeknd songs in the bottom 20 songs or something? I eventually mellowed on quite a few of his songs, with several of them being moved way up the list (pretty sure one of them raised over 500 rankings, didnt it?), but there were still some songs of his that I hated.

...Im just not entirely sure which songs were which... I think Initiation was the one tied for last place and House of Balloons / Glass Table Girls was also really low ranking. Though I still hate HoB/GTC, so maybe it deserved to be in last place? Or maybe it actually was?

*goes to check*

Right, right, Initiation was in last place. Then Kiryu Coco ED, which was followed immediately by seven The Weeknd songs dropping in the same post. House of Balloons was just kinda in the middle of that cluster. Its interesting that when my mind tries to jump to a song I hate, it picks House of Balloons when there are decidedly lower ranking songs on the list.

...Now I almost want to relisten to the lower ranked songs and see if I still want them lower than HoB, but Ill save revisiting songs for some later date.



...As for this song: Too explicit for my tastes and your mind wants to leave, but you cant go is probably the lyric that put me the most on edge from the entire topic. Which, again, raises questions on how anything (other than I Run Rap) managed to score lower than it.

(On a lighter note, there are definitely songs of his that I like. I actually nominated one of his songs (Pray For Me) at one of Jesses topic and Ive listened to his song with Kenny G a fair number of times ; and when I was playing Fuser, Blinding Lights was a pretty decent song to add to mixes. In addition to all the songs from Trilogy that I actually did like. Its not all hatred. And I prefer finding songs I hate than songs I feel nothing towards, so I legitimately appreciate the nomination of the album quite a bit.)

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First five songs that come to mind, huh? Alright... in the order they were thought of:

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1.BRING ME THE HORIZON - DOOMED (LIVE AT ROYAL ALBERT HALL):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGc9W-_C9u0

Easy choice for first thought. Well, not that I chose what to think of, but you know what I meant.

1: Its one of the songs I know I undervalued slightly. Id decided the very top level of songs would be reserved exclusively for songs that I was considering for first place and when it came to BMTH songs, I was obsessed with Happy Song. There was a 0% chance of Doomed getting ranked above Happy Song at the time, so it had to be a step below it. Im not sure if Id definitely take Doomed over Happy Song these days, but its certainly a lot closer than the scores and placements indicate.

2: I had to give it a bit of an additional writeup a little while ago, to clarify that the nominated version (like the link posted above) isnt exactly Doomedits Overture and Doomed together in one video, so you get some violin orchestra for a few minutes before Doomed actually starts. Not exactly a bad thing, but since I was just talking about the song, of course its still on my mind.

3: Probably the song from the ranking that Ive been listening to the most lately. There was a point where Happy Song was the most listened, Avantasias Runaway Train was an obsession for a week or so, and lately Doomeds been getting a lot of play.

Soo... yeah. Pretty easy to see why that would be the First Thought.

(As an aside, I made the list of songs before starting any writeups. Which is why you wont be seeing Happy Song or Runaway Train in this list of 5.)

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(Invalid Answer): EMERSON, LAKE, & PALMER - THE SHERIFF:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZmWLOce8Lc

This isnt one of the 631, but it is one of the extra songs from this phase of the topic & the second song I thought of. And since I left my initial writeup as a vague Im not talking about this song, I think Im actually going to detour and talk about it now.

First, I highly suggest listening to the song and going into it blind. Ill even spoiler tag the rest of this writeup to give you a chance.

Listen to it yet? ...No? *shrugs* Well, I tried.

This is a random song that wasnt really nominated anywhere. Player 0 made a joking reference to the album it was from (he nominated Trilogy by The Weeknd, but there was also an ELP album named Trilogy), but as far as Im aware, he hadnt actually listened to the album or had any expectation that I would actually listen to it.

The punchline is that he may have accidentally gave me my favorite song from this post-ranking.

On one level, this seems like a song I shouldnt like. Its definitely dealing with subject matter thats way too heavy for methe song opens with a lynch mob & ends with our hero murdering a cop, so ya know, not exactly something I want to talk about. This is the type of song that gets a self-deprecating and sarcastic writeup along the lines of why are you asking someone that refers to herself as a delusional bunny her thoughts on racism and vigilante justice? What has gone so wrong in your life that you have wound up in a position where youre not only interacting with me, but actually expect me to have anything relevant or thoughtful to say in response to this??

So... putting aside the subject matter and trying to only speak of the song itself:

A: I like how it tells a very complete three act story in its rather brief runtime. Its under three and a half minutes, has two instrumental break, and still manages to get a lot of storytelling here. Theres no wasted time. (On some level, it reminds me of The Diesel Street Kings - Lord of the Breeze from last years topic; while theyre not particularly similar, theyre both in that classic rock genre & feature male singers that are more narrating a story than singing.)

B: No repetition at allno choruses, no repeated lines, it helps it stand out from all the more traditional verse-chorus-verse-chorus songs.

C: The outro of the song is so cartoonish and ludicrous that it always makes me smile. Just listen to how toony that gunshot sound effect is and how wildly energetic that piano solo is. Its just so absurd and out of place.

D: On a related note, the music itself isnt very heavy or serious. While the subject matter is heavy, theres some levity to the music itself.

And it all adds up to what I would say is my favorite song of the post-ranking-listening thus far. And I highly doubt anyone else would rank it this highly, for so many reasons:

Cop killing

Not treating the subject matter with the seriousness it deserves

Not the most technically proficient song, in terms of lyrical performance or instrumentals

Blah blah blah, other reasons, dont care, love the song.

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UF8 posted...

well, the others are people like kaf, or rime, who has a 25+ million view song now, and a few others, all sitting on larger subcounts and especially average views.

Fair enough!

Note to self: Listen to Koko's song next time, I see she has one.
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Lets see where I left off on the vtuber section, make a bit of progress on that.

Isekai Joucho - Tomedo Naki Hakujou: 67 points. Good song, good video. Since the video has 1.2 million views, Im curious how popular the other members are if shes easily the least popular and bringing in those kinds of numbers. (I suppose the most likely explanation is this particular video going viral for some reason and not reflecting her typical popularity. It was just an awful lot of views.)

Isekai Joucho - Kaku Utsukushiki Zouka: 61 points. A bit of a step down, but yeah, I like it still.

Kiritani Komugi - KOMUGI MAXIMIZER: A bit louder and more intense than I was expecting, kinda feels like a Touhou song or something. Certainly cant complain about getting to see someone who describes themselves as an apprentice giraffe who works at a virtual bakery. I love the ambiguity of that sentenceis she a giraffe who is an apprentice or is she apprenticing to be a giraffe. Dont tell me, itd ruin the fun. 53.50 points.

(I know its assuredly the first one, just let me have my fun.)

Its really nice of her to try to do an English introduction, even though its difficult for her. Always appreciate it when someone tries to push themselves like that.

Kiritani Komugi - cooking!!: Convenient. After the English introduction, I was a bit curious about her other song with the picture of a shark. Slight improvement, 54 to 56 points, probably.

(Though I kinda love the shark holding the X paddle at the 1:49 mark. Something about her crying, the sharks wide open mouth, and the giant TOO BAD bar over half the screen makes it possibly the funniest moment of the topic. To a point that I almost want to give it 70 points based purely on this imagebut Im really, really trying not to be as blatantly influenced by that type of thing.)

Tenkai Tsukasa - HOWL: 60 points. i dont really know why as hes certainly not my favorite vocalist, but I really do like this one.

Tenkai Tsukasa - Saintpaulia: 70 points. Feels like a solid tier above HOWL.

Tenkai Tsukasa (and a lot of other people as well) - Haru No Uta: 59 points. Still good, but its a bit too long and a bit of a step down. Feels like everyone turned out for this group performance.... including a virtual gorilla. Kay.

Yamamii - Tengoku e Ikou: 46 points. I didnt like it, but for being so long and repetitive, I didnt actively dislike it.

??? - Last Dance wa Motomenaide (?) I have no idea what this last video was, but I think I liked it. 62 points, maybe, I dunno.
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rwlh posted...

Square Hammer loses points for being a bit repetitive, however, particularly at the end if the song varied it up a bit more, it would probably place even higher.

...thats what I wrote in my notes, but upon relistening I dont actually think its that repetitive?

I love Square Hammer, but it definitely feels a bit too repetitive. There are only two verses in the song and they're not terribly long, pretty sure each verse is shorter than the chorus... which plays in full three times, so the song is mostly just the chorus being repeated.

And the chorus itself is fairly repetitive:

Are you on the square
Are you on the level
...
That you're on the square
That you're on the level

So while the chorus only plays thrice, the lines are similar enough that it can feel like it's playing six times. Which, combined with the song's short runtime and minimal amount of verses, can easily lead to feelings of repetition.

...mind you I still love the song based almost entirely on the strength of said chorus. It does what it does perfectly, just without a lot of variety.
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Toxtricity posted...

the way i'm thinking of handling it in the future is "maximum 40 total minutes added up of all your noms combined together" or something. that way people can nom 40 1 minute songs or 1 40 minute song and it takes the same amount of time on my end

actually this was how i handled it in an ancient ranking topic

Oh hey, I actually thought about trying something like that for this topic's gimmick before that alignment thing: Up to 3 hours of music per person, do whatever with it.

Didn't realize anyone had tried something like that before, but it's nice to know that it's not unprecidented or anything.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

you could also try this two-and-a-half hour version (featuring jeroen van veen):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-4bh8J84Go

Since that was the version actually posted abd I wanted an excuse to spend two and a half hours on something that took minimal effort, I went ahead and watched the full thing. It's... not exactly for me, but I didn't really dislike it either. Probably an exact 50 type of song?

Thinking I may want a "maximum of 20 minutes per song" rule in the future though, whatever format the next formal ranking takes.
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Still not here, but Ill at least listen to the newest posted song before.... stuff.

C-C-B - Romantic Ga Tomaranai: 84 points. Its definitely an 80s pop song and I like 80s pop, so thats nice. As usual, its half-reminding me of something I cant place, but whatever. Its got a good beat, an infectious chorus, and its a genre I like. Good pick.



And lets o ahead and take the short, 13 minute long song Lasa mentioned while were here, so we can at least say we did two things today:

PianoArie - Canto Ostinato (first 84 sections): The jump cuts feel a bit jarring to meI understand why hes removed the parts of him turning the pages, but the video isnt spliced together seamlesslythere are definitely points when listening to it, where you can clearly hear that the video was spliced and time has shifted. It does pull me out of the pieceslightly. Its not a song ruining trait or anything and, since hes an amateur, quite understandable.

Least favorite part is the opening, favorite part is after the jump somewhere in the 4:50 range (I want to say 4:58, but Im not positive. Shortly before the five minute mark either way). 58 or 59 points; I generally like it, but a few low points and slightly disjointed audio skipping keeps me from wanting to go all the way up to 60 points.
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Ill try to check out Canto Ostinato before the topic ends. Looks like its an hour and sixteen minutes long though, so its going to take a bit more effort and time commitment than other songs.

Back to our daily Steve Reich break:

Ryan Landry - Electric Counterpoint III Fast (NES Multichip): Strangely, I seem to prefer the more traditional versions of his songs than this. 54 points? I still kinda like it, but its a bit of a downgrade.

D*Note - Piano Phase (Phased and Konfused Mix): 52 points. Maybe. Kinda reminding me of something, score would probably go somewhere if I finished figuring out exactly what Im thinking of... I kinda wanted to say it was reminding me of Perfect Dark, but skimming the soundtrack, I dont see anything particularly similar.



Lets skip ahead to the Sad Bear song that was posted on this page.

Manju - Natsuki: 59.40 points. Not my favorite song of this particular type of sadness, but the lyrics do hit the right level of blunt sadness.

[Auto-translated]

My feelings overflow again
The back of my eyes [are] bleeding

I can always count on her for those types of lyrics and I appreciate what she does.



Kaf - Mahou: 65 points. Shes still got a great voice and I like listening to her. Not one of my favorite songs of hers, but I still like it.

Somunia x Isekai Joucho - Tomeina Kokyu: 64 points. Nice song and their voices go well together.

KMNZ x ORESAMA - Fuzzy Town: 80 points. Song has a great beat.

wotoha - Cobalt Dreams (Eharamiori Remix): I really liked most of the song, but the breakdown shortly before the 2:20 mark is... not something I enjoy (though that section is mercifully short). 70 points? I feel like putting it a solid tier above the 60s, even with that brief segment holding it back a bit.

mitsuki neu - jelly girl (chiro remix): After some longer songs, theres something charmingly quaint about one thats under a minute and a half long. 60 points; its charming and doesnt overstay its welcome.



Short day, again; blah blah overslept, blah blah Im hungry and want to take a break and eat something, you know how it is.
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Time for our daily Steve Reich break:

Steve Reich - Eight Lines: 52 points. I like aspects of it, but it feels like a bit of a step down and it still felt like a sudden endingkinda curious if its supposed to segue into another song there at the end or not.

Jeroen van Veen - Six Pianos: 66 points. Seems to have a rather calming effect, which is nice.



And back to vtubers for a little while. Probably just two songsin my defense, Steve Reich songs are long so Ive spent more time listening to music lately than it seems.

Tadase Kairi - Future: 60 points. I like it.

YuNi - Umbrella: Its nice to hear YuNi again, but Im not really into this one... Kinda torn between very high 40s (49.something), exactly 50, and very low 50s (50.07-ish). Sorry... I was happy to see her again, even if the specific song didnt work out.
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Another day where Im running rather late on certain things (overslept by a lot), but I should have time to get at least the first Steve Reich song.

Bang on a Can All-Stars - 2x5 (2x5: 1. Fast ; 2x5: II. Slow ; 2x5: III. Fast): Feels like itd be good working musiclike, were I to be sitting here and working on a project for a couple hours, this seems like the perfect background music. Compelling enough that I dont mind listening to it, long enough that I dont get distracted by a variety of songs, and not so engrossing that itd pull all my attention away from whatever Im working on.

I rather like the part starting around the 8 minute mark? The jarring shift shortly after the ten minute mark was also noteworthyI figured I wouldnt likely notice where one track ended and the other started, but that was a pretty big shift, so I suspect that has to be the start of II. (There was also one other part later I meant to comment on, but I didnt, and dont really want to go back to find it... somewhere between the 10 and 12 minute mark, I think.)

60 points, well say? Its good and I like it, but its probably a bit too long.



And lets see if I can squeeze in CPUs three latest songs before breaking for the night.

New Found Glory - The Power of Love: A harder rock version of the classic Huey Lewis song. Not bad; I prefer the original, but this version is at a bit of a disadvantagenot quite right to compare something Ive only heard once to a song that Ive known forever. 57 points, with chances of rising up once I get more used to it and stop comparing it to the original.

Valley Swerve - Mindless Game Deathtrap: The haunting and ominous intro of the first 7 seconds was fantastic. The song also covers a lot of ground in its brief (less than a minute-thirty) runtime. 58 points, would like to listen to other songs on this album latersince the entire album is only 17 minutes long, I suspect Ill wind up listening to the whole thing eventually. Certainly not much of a time commitment to do so.

HKE - Moon Ritual: 50 points. Im afraid it never left much of an impression.

HKE - Pondlife: I didnt hit the stop button quick enough after the last song ended and the opening notes of this were interesting enough to let it play, so heres an extra song: Marked improvement over the last one. Chirping bird (or bird-like) sounds are interesting and I kinda like what its doing here. 59 points?
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I would be interested in the Kaf concert, but I'm going to bed in like... 20 minutes and I'm not in a place where I can just skip an entire's night sleep right now (or wake up early enough to catch it that way). I do appreciate the heads-up though.
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I'm glad you at least didn't hate that particular track, though to be honest it wound up selected due to time constraints. I really wanted to nominate a heavily sax focused song that I felt certain neither of us had heard, but I didn't have much time to research... I just kinda Googled "best saxophonist" to get to Kenny G and then spent an hour clicking through his channel, in search of something new to nominate.

That was the best I found, though I'm positive there's better in the category of sax songs neither of us have heard before... just hard to find them.

(I've always assumed Denny G was a Chinese artist inspired by Kenny G because I hear Kenny is big in that country, but looking back, I see no real reason I should have jumped to that conclusion.)
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