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Lopen posted...

I also love dumb hokey stuff and question why people who are staunchly against it would be into pro wrestling to begin with (and no it's not just a WWE thing WWE just has more of it) so obviously I don't care about that aspect.

I suppose I can actually kind of agree with this in some ways, considering the full watchthrough I did of 90s AJPW (which was 100% free of dumb hokey stuff) during COVID has seemingly turned me off of modern wrestling forever.

But that's part of my point. It's not like the sort of dumb hokey stuff I'm talking about was always a part of pro wrestling. It rose to prominence in WWF/E and primarily with the Undertaker, and the fact that it's now just near-universally accepted as some basic truth that his community theater nonsense is as much a part of the fabric of wrestling as the Irish Whip is a big part of why I hate the character so much.

Also, "Undertaker was bad in the ring" is a much more common take than you're giving it credit for. He had some good Mania matches but plenty of "normal workrate snobs" would tell you that he spent 90% of his career at minimum being lousy.