Lurker > Lopen

In theory scum could immediately kill someone who claimed something juicy in private so definitely be careful. If you're going to full claim do it at the last moment.

And Death I will consider you in the lead at the moment but I am more interested in Peaf and Sir Chris townreads (or better multiple) I think. Mostly because Dumey seems to have people openly on both sides.

I must sadly decline at the moment but come back to me if you get more fire in townreading any of them

Since it still has 0 votes I'm just gonna say Netflix Ragnarok is decent.

I voted Thor Ragnarok but I would recommend it if you're into Norse mythology and want a weird spin on it involving high schoolers and an evil corporation and don't mind watching subtitled stuff.

(This is where people say if they townread any of those players btw

I will happily initiate the proposal I just don't know who to propose to)

I would like to find a soul mate for the night

Qualifications:
- Able and willing to discuss suspicions with me tonight
- Preferably thinks one or more of Chris Peaf and Dumey are town and willing to argue with me about it

Accepting applications now

SirChris posted...

I will say if I come off performative when I am being super bare bones in my play we may be in trouble

Speaking honestly, if you're town here:

Meat is a hardy meal and would not be performative feeling

The bare bonesyness is probably what makes it come off as performative, if it is indeed bare bones.

Leonhart4 posted...

But it's not a character so I'm covered

12th character of the alphabet

Who is up for isolating Kirby

EDumey posted...

Lopen just take the L. It's not that deep.

I mean I was already taking the L because I said it doesn't make sense to go that way unless you're both scum

Then I pivoted into taking the W

Now I'm liking what Ulti is selling and will compromise

Sultan confirming he was responding to Chris doesn't make it any less absurd to use that post as an argument foundation

I took it as both a light hearted way to say Chris's point was good while responding to Lea's joke

I'm not saying 1.8 was clearly a joke post I'm saying it was an early game post made just after Lea had cracked about stamina and as such shouldn't be foundation for any real argument against Sultan

You saying "why take Chris's post seriously then!?!" is a bunch of kaphooey

SirChris posted...

So I have been thinking about this. I think we should avoid pairing up early and just kind of get a feel for everyone and who we might want left out in the cold.

If we have a wolf in a tough spot and someone goes against the grain, it could be a wolf partner saving them.

In this setup it's going to be tough to get wolves out the first two days because wolves can save each other. However, the game has a minimum of five days so they probably won't want to be too blatant about this. Something to keep in mind.

Hasty plays muddle the waters and favor wolves much more than town, so we should keep that in mind.

Dumey is asking why I took this post seriously. You tell me Chris was it a joke.

I think we just jettison Dumey

Peaf if you're town please consider dating someone else thank you

EDumey posted...

If Sultan was responding to Chris, I'm not sure why you would take Chris so seriously and then dismiss Sultan as just a joke.

EDumey posted...

Are you interpreting Sultan as responding to Lea's 2 pump chump joke,

Yes

I mean Chris's post was clearly not anything resembling humor so I don't know why you're asking why I took his seriously lol

The alternate world is he is scum bussing and the argument makes sense because he is informed the target is scum

That requires scum Sultan though which I dunno if I'm biting on yet

I mean 1.8 is clear joke early game nonsense post to me

Oddly this is so crazy to consider a contradiction with 1.60 as part of building an argument on someone that I may give you more town points for it because I feel like scum isn't going to reach that hard on faking a case?

Man I don't know.

EDumey posted...

1.8 Sultan says cool playing the Long game
1.60 Sultan says he's okay dating Red. Seems contradictory to 1.8, and is an easy date to jump onto because Red is likely to just AFK on the date.

Really.

I called you a poindexter Lea called you a nerd get it right

SirChris posted...

What are you doing to ensure you catch scum? Edumey is paired. Peaf is paired. If I am scum I can surely worm my way into someone's pants before days end. Your scum reads will all be matched up and day will not end how you want.

So why fight it? 12-3 means we get 4 mislynches before lylo. Don't sweat day 1 and have productive hoods.

I'm not saying we will catch scum I'm saying that as town I thinking trying to pair with someone who I think is scum gives them an easy out and you should be minimizing easy outs for scum.

And for what? 1 on 1 time? You want to interrogate Dumey who has been very communicative during the day phase so you can catch him then? Why can't you just catch him now? This isn't a lurker it's Dumey-- what are you going to find out during a night phase that you can't find right now.

I have more idea of what's going on your head than youre giving credit for

You've made like 80 posts this game. There is a pathway into how you're thinking there whether you're town or scum.

So we mulligan day 1

When do we catch scum.

Are we going to just wring our hands and say "gee I sure hope a cop scans scum" all game?

Dumey suggests us date as I'm making that post

Dumey gets rarely seen town points for this

Amusingly Chris's possibly biggest scumtell I feel at the moment is I can't imagine a world where town Chris isn't trying to date me to weaponize me against the actual scum and trying to date ME so we can bounce some ideas off of each other and find the scum rather than trying to date people he thinks is scum

His whole idea of saying he's going to try and date people he suspects feels counter-intuitive to how you should play the game and moreover how Chris would want to play the game. Do I really believe Sir Chris is so keen on his abilities to interrogate people that he would burn the one mechanic we have to catch scum on neighboring people he suspects?

Absolutely not, but I think he thinks the board thinks he's egotistical enough to do that and is playing into that conception as an excuse to bus people while at the same time trying to leave a door open to date them.

Enchantress posted...

Lopen and I would be a good pairing in a sort of Spike/Buffy way, simply happy to find someone who won't break when you smash them through a wall and collapse a house

I love this.

It's no coincidence you and Corrik are two of the only people showing any interest in dating me

Buncha puny gods in here

Great catch from FD

It's settled we leave Dumey to die

I guess technically Chris is suspecting Dumey too which may contribute

Amusingly Chris is putting it all on me though

I just don't understand why you'd get upset this early into the game off of one person's suspicions when you can't even be voting. Why would people be mad.

Is it because so many people aren't scumhunting so my voice becomes louder?

Kirby321 posted...

I mean, Dumey's explanation makes sense

It makes sense if he actually executed the plan.

Kirby321 posted...

Plus, the dude is obviously getting worked up

Was it obvious before that post? I don't think so.

EDumey posted...

I love the "there's zero pressure this game" but also calling anyone that tries to pressure or do anything proactive performative.

Actually I'm calling saying you were going to do that and then not following through performative

EDumey posted...

Because Lopen, there's no way for me to respond to this and prevent you from tunneling me without just giving you the answer. If I just respond, "Wait and see. :)" then you'll hate that too

You don't know and actually I have been tunneling you least of my three suspects

There are more people than you and I in this game Dumey. Me committing some resources to suspecting you should not tilt you that much

Like no hesitation

It took literally one minute to see the post read the post and decide "yeah this is fine"

If you're scumreading someone are you able to conclude that so quickly? I'm not sure

Kirby321 posted...

Honestly I don't have much to talk about. Dumey tilting at Chris is just making my brain turn to mush.

Chris immediately accepting Dumey's explanation after he's been needling him forever feels super theatre to me.

That you are tilting to show your cards feels more about a performance than what your actual cards are

I don't believe it

I think there is zero real pressure this game and you could have let your test play out with little actual risk

Like here are my options

Put Dumey with Sir Chris so Chris argue hard he's scum tomorrow
Put Dumey with NO ONE so he dies

I pick option 2

SirChris posted...

Yes, why would you want to put someone in a room with Chris for 24 hours when the last time that happened Chris killed the scum who was in a room with him the next day.

Terrible idea.

Because of the lynch mechanics you were so keen on

What you're describing is what the day phase is for in this game. We can't be pairing with people we scumread to interrogate them that's how scum avoids dying

I have no idea why ING capitalized there and it was not any sort of message or play

Kirby321 posted...

Lopen, are you eyeing anyone in particular to room with tonight?

Someone I'm townreadING or at least not scumreading who I can bounce ideas off of

Also someone who is willing to hang around unpaired till near deadline

Pairing up with someone you think might be scum feels like a terrible idea and I've assigned Sir Chris 12 additional demerits for seemingly pursuing that

EDumey posted...

And telling people what you're looking for before hand kind of defeats the purpose if they are aware of it

But why though

I just don't see what you're trying to ambush scum with here.

Do you think scum is going to read what you're trying to get and say "wow I'm gonna act like this so Dumey will pair up with me"

EDumey posted...

Also I just said that there is something to come back to later.

Why need to "come back to it"

Being super non-committal feels more scummish than townish. Town being non-committal feels more like a "in the game of Chess you can't let your opponent see your pieces" situation

L-Block
Ryu
Pikachu
Master Chief

Chris to his credit isn't saying "I might pair up tonight with this guy I don't have any read on unless something zany happens"

I was referring to basically that you ran your mouth about how lynches are gonna play out and how the game works but then are potentially pairing up with a 50-50 town scum guy which feels like the worst game theory to me

EDumey posted...

I guess that kind of depends on how the rest of the day shakes out. I am not 100% committed to him, and am willing to change the situation up

Seems strange to me that a guy who gave us a disposition about how the lynch theory will play out at the start of the game apparently has zero strategy on how to optimally select a date to employ or share.

Are you planning on sticking with Peaf Dumey

Good theater from Dumey and Chris

Almost thinking they aren't paired

Almost

Overall my suspect priority is Peaf > Chris >> Dumey

I would heavily advise Dumey if town to avoid dating Chris or Peaf. Let the other scum bail one of them out

Town thinking I am town doesn't make me feel better either at this stage of the game unless they're listening to me.

No one ever lynches me day 1 unless I'm intentionally trying to act scummy (never doing that again)

As it turns out I do not care whether the scum thinks I am scum and it does not make me feel better

You are validating me but devalidating my suspects going above and beyond standard to argue Peaf's play is townish.

You are nuanced and subtle but I'm onto you all