Lurker > Johnbobb

Also, saw Last Night In Soho tonight as well

probably my favorite movie of this year so far tbh

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Snake5555555555 posted...

Right? I think it's Flanagan's best and most complete work. It's genuinely scary, emotionally powerful, the setting and lore is well-realized without being overly complex or lost in its own mysteries, the performances are incredible. It's one of my favorite pieces of TV in a while.

I haven't seen Flanagan's other shows but I'm definitely compelled to now. Everything about this was just so impressive, and like you said, it all just feels complete. The themes are fully realized, pretty much every character gets resolution of some kind, and that ending was one of the darkest things I've ever seen on TV

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Just finished Midnight Mass

100% lives up to the hype

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IGN did a horror movie face-off and, well:



sorry @Snake5555555555

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Played most of the RE7 DLC. Thoughts:

Nightmare
Least interesting part of the Banned Footage by far. Survival modes like these never really appealed to me, especially with the "try, fail, get more weapons than before, try again, repeat" setup.

Bedroom
This might've actually been my favorite Banned Footage. The escape room format is so perfect for RE7 that I'm surprised they didn't take advantage of it more in the game itself. The puzzles were clever, the chase to fix everything you altered was thrilling, and the fact that eating Margueritte's food literally kills you is hilarious.

Ethan Must Die
didn't play this one, doesn't seem like my kind of thing

21
Loved this. I'm weirdly a fan of in-game poker games to begin with, and the mini-story with Lucas here was both funny and terrifying. Then the expanded mode actually seemed worth playing, with more challenge, more trump cards (getting long trump combos and then cutting off an opponent's entire hand in one shot is so satisfying) special enemies. Also, naming the opponent Hoffman in a Saw-inspired game is perfect.

Daugters
Not gonna lie, I was actually a little disappointed by this mode. It's the one I was most excited for, because I wanted to see how the family devolved upon exposure to Eveline, and we got a little bit of that. Best part of this was exploring a little bit of the house when it was still in rough condition but actually looked like a livable home with a working fridge and decent people. But then the family devolves entirely, immediately, and the rest of the level is just walking around trying to avoid 1-hit deaths. Really would've loved to see more from the Bakers as they were before they changed.

Not a Hero
Meh. It was cool getting to play as Chris admittedly, but gameplay wise it's mostly more of the same, only with more punching. It's basically linear hallways one after the other with only a few exceptions, and didn't draw me in much until the end, where it starts opening up the Lucas lore and finally shows what happens to him post-game (in a fun boss fight!).

End of Zoe
This was a blast. Someone said "you know what would make this game more fun? Less guns, more punching, and more alligators." And they were right! Less suspenseful horror and more action horror, this is completely ridiculous, with Joe fighting Jack, who is somehow still alive in a new form, with literal wrestling moves instead of weapons. It's just fun the whole way through.

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lol yeah Jigsaw is a lot of fun but don't try to think about the implications

also that reverse cone trap is fucked

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best hoffman moment imo was him brute forcing his way out of the jawbreaker trap

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Yeah Saw 4-5 are definitely a low point imo

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I enjoyed Jigsaw for what it was in the same way I enjoyed Pirates 5

It's silly, it's mostly inconsequential, but it brought back what I enjoyed about the series in the first place and was a fun little flick

I do like Spiral a good bit though

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Saw 2 is my favorite of the series, and like you said, it's mostly for Tobin Bell, though I have always enjoyed the character of Amanda as well

And lol if there's one thing I will fully admit about the Saw movies it's that looking for plot holes is like looking for bees in a hive

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GANON1025 posted...

I do have a soft spot for the Saw series, and Jigsaw/John Kramer is probably my favorite horror villain.

Hell yeah, same here

Also one of the things I think works about the early Saw movies is that, ultimately, Kramer thinks he's helping the people he traps. Is he right? Fuck no, he's pretty much entirely in the wrong here, but I always took it as he's not trying to trap bad people as much as he is people he thinks he CAN help

That's one of the things I think hurts the later movies so much, once Kramer dies and his followers take over, they don't really care about helping people, Hoffman especially. Half the traps are designed to specifically not be survivable and it ultimately just becomes mindless torture without purpose

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GANON1025 posted...

Despite being a big Hoffman-head (thats what us Saw fans call ourselves)

...is it though

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Beat RE7

• What the hell happened to Lucas? I got through his traps and then just never encountered him again
• What happened to Zoe? She stayed behind and then I just never encountered her again
• I know the answers to both of those questions are probably just DLC and that's really frustrating and dumb
• Eveline turning out to be the old woman in the wheelchair who's just making everyone see the little girl was so good
• Eveline turning out to be a government military experiment is... very Resident Evil
• Chris Redfield at the end would've been a neat surprise at the time, but it's been pretty common knowledge for years now. Not entirely sure how he knew to be there right then though. Something with Ethan's watch, which is the one Mia had?

Overall, I enjoyed it! Very creepy, not ridiculously shooter-heavy in a way that distracts from the horror, a lot of creepy lore.

Is the DLC worth getting? It looks like there's a lot of it. Or is it just something I could look up on YouTube and get the same amount out of it?

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RE7 update

• Ethan still a worthless jackass
• Jack Baker came back, and holy shit wtf happened to him
• Lucas is annoying but his puzzle rooms are cool. The birthday VHS was a blast, and part of me honestly wants a full game of those creepy torture puzzles without zombie-shooting but Saw: The Video Game already exists and apparently it isn't any good
• The Mia v. Zoe choice kinda sucked because I went in knowing that "Save Mia" is the canon ending (which I could've guessed, given that's the entire point of the game's events) so I went with that but tbh it feels more in-character for Ethan to save Zoe because he has not expressed any actual care for Mia the entire way through the game.
• Creepy old boat exploration is giving me bad Man of Medan flashbacks (still need to play Little Hope and the third one eventually)
• not sure how to feel about the plot twist that Mia is a secret agent or something? like a government worker watching over Eveline? not sure what exactly is happening here but I'm at least intrigued

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Finished Nioh so now I'm playing Resident Evil 7 finally

In the old house now, just defeated Margueritte and holy shit, her transformation is horrifying. That greenhouse fight was a nightmare.

other thoughts so far:

• First impression of Ethan is that he just completely sucks. After tracking down Mia this whole way dude has literally no emotional response to her condition, and is kinda just a dick to her for no reason
• Desepite my favorite game (Bioshock) being a first-person horror game, I'm generally terrible with horror games and this is no exception. Hate hate hate going down hallways and just knowing something's gonna jump out and scare me.
• the Jack Baker chainsaw fight was really cool but also kinda janky gameplay-wise.
• the mystery of the family and their condition is already super intriguing
• ugh inventory management, some things never change, huh?

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Snake5555555555 posted...

After Midnight, One Cut of the Dead, Color Out of Space, Mandy, Revenge, Peninsula if you liked Train to Busan (if you didn't watch TtB watch that first instead), Hunted (I liked it but it won't be for everyone).

I can second all of those except the last two, which I didn't see

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just saw malignant

jfc

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ooh I want to see that, maybe next week

Saw Candyman last night and it was really good, definitely among the all-time best horror reboots (not that that's a super high bar but still)

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tbh I haven't even watched AHS since Roanoke though I do want to catch up someday

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is it any good?


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Just got back from seeing Don't Breathe 2

Overall a solid enough thriller, but much less original of a concept the 2nd time around. It instead takes the odd direction of making the Blind Man an anti-hero taking down just the most objectively despicable group imaginable in an almost John Wick kind of way. Didn't fully make sense (if they were very specifically trying to capture the girl alive, why did the first guy try to drown/electrocute her? If she died their whole plan would've been squashed) and kind of skims over the fact that the guy we're supposed to be rooting for is kind of disgusting, but it's still a fun (if goofy) thrillride.

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ooh I need to find a place to see that

edit: wait nm I forgot I already downloaded it

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edited in Saint Maud and Kokodikokoda because I hadn't been thinking of them as 2021 movies

release years are weird for international and festival releases

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also 2021 Horror Movie ranking (so far) while I'm at it

1. Werewolves Within
2. A Quiet Place, Part II
3. Saint Maud
4. Fear Street: 1666
5. Spiral: From the Book of Saw
6. Fear Street: 1978
7. Fear Street: 1994
8. Come True
9. Escape Room: Tournament of Champions
10. Old
11. Slaxx
12. The Unholy
13. Willy's Wonderland
14. Koko-di Koko-da
15. The Forever Purge

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since I've watched Slaxx, every horror movie about a sentient inanimate object I've watched, ranked

1. Hausu
2. Rubber
3. Velvet Buzzsaw
4. Christine
5. Maximum Overdrive
6. In Fabric
7. Slaxx
8. Small Soldiers
9. Child's Play 1 & 2 [this barely feels like it counts though]
10. Death Bed: The Bed That Eats
11. Demonic Toys

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anway following up on other horror stuff

Maneater

Finished the game now, and while the gameplay loop definitely gets old after a while, I'm not complaining too much because I got it for free. Loved the style of it (done as a sometimes hilarious parody of Discovery Channel reality shows like Deadliest Catch) and it has more Easter Eggs than probably any other game I've played. Offhand I recall references to Jaws (obviously), Spongebob, Arrested Development, Moby Dick [the endgame battle against the Apex Sperm Whale was brutal], Lord of the Flies, Rick and Morty, It, Cast Away, and probably dozens more. Plus I just really love getting to explore the ocean; kinda reminded me of Abzu but with more slaughter.

Old

really interesting premise, some great uses of the idea, and some of the worst, most stilted dialogue I've ever seen. A few great actors here seem just absolutely terrible because they're given such nonsense to work with. (on a minor note, how the hell do a man with a heavy Spanish accent and a woman with a heavy German accent raise a daughter in America with a heavy New Zealand accent?????!!??!?). Several hilarious scenes, but it's not always clear what's intentional and what isn't.

Slaxx

man I don't even know where to start with this one. It's legitimately funny, and really bloody (though its low budget is pretty obvious at times). Then it does a thing where it tries to handle a kinda serious subject matter, and kinda makes good points, but at the same time feels kinda exploitative in its covering of a serious matter in such a goofy, nonsensical way and edges maybe a bit too close to unintentional racism for my taste. Anyway, worth a watch, but not one I think I'll watch again.


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Snake5555555555 posted...

Lamb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnEwJKVWjFM

this strikes me as somebody seeing The VVitch and thinking "man that goat should've been the main character"

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Snake5555555555 posted...

Story of M. Night Shyamalan's life

honestly if the dude would just produce/direct and not screenwrite or at least let someone else screenwrite for him, it would be 200% better. He has so many cool ideas but doesn't even slightly understand dialogue

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speaking of movies with interesting ideas and bad execution

saw Old tonight

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so I watched Triangle last night and... I have pretty mixed thoughts. It kinda reminds me of Vivarium in a lot of ways, which was another movie that I thought had some really interesting and surreal concepts orchestrated in bizarre and intriguing ways... that ultimately was held back a little by inconsistencies in its own logic and writing and inconsistent performances.So back to Triangle, I've seen a lot of praise for the main performance of Melissa George but honestly I wasn't feeling it. Some of it she does fine; particularly the aggression, but in the slower moments when she's trying to act unsettled or frightened, I thought it came off as overly forced and melodramatic. It doesn't help that she has to carry the entire film because every other character is one-note and awful (especially Sally, goddamn is she just irritating every time she's on screen) and I just don't think her performance was strong enough to carry it. Compare it to someone like Samara Weaving in Ready Or Not (another young woman thrown unexpectedly into a weird fantasy horror scenario in a fixed location she's unfamiliar with) and it's easier to define why one performance feels strong enough to carry it and the other doesn't.

The story itself was really interesting: from what I can gather, she was either given or willingly accepted an eternal punishment for accidentally killing herself and her autistic child, who she had abused, and now she's forced to relive that over and over. This is really cool, and there are some incredible scenes. In particular, two scenes really stick out to me as highlights: Sally crawling over to a section of boat where dozens of her corpses are gathered with similar wounds and Jess killing the abusive version of herself with a hammer. If more of the film was along this line, it would've done a lot better for me.

Some of it was a little cringeworthy though. In particular, the one Jess line, "My world is waiting for his mom to pick him up from school. Don't talk to me about MY WORLD" that repeats like 3 or 4 times in the film is just... not good. It's bad writing and delivered in a tone that doesn't match the scene. I also laughed out loud at Jess needing to copy down a note she found onto another sheet of paper to compare the handwriting, somehow being an adult who doesn't recognize her own handwriting.

Other things just really detract from the mysterious and wild puzzle plot it has going. Namely, inconsistencies in its own logic. Things like 1. some things showing up by the dozens, like the notes/bodies/dead birds, but other things (the bodies killed in the theater, the axe, the wrecked car, etc) resetting with each loop. 2. Jess making obvious mistakes like telling herself to "kill them all" despite already having lived that scene and knowing that doesn't work 3. the fact that we see her go through the entire process of getting on the boat -> pushing masked jess over after everyone is killed -> trying to stop the killings and failing -> becoming the masked killer -> washing up on the shore and starting the loop over. However, there are WAY more copies of everything in every scenario than what there should be if that's the entire loop. Similarly, things happen that the Jess we're following doesn't ever experience which doesn't make sense given that we witness the entire loop.

The issue with a movie like this, that breaks the laws of reality in order to set its own rules, is that when done right, this can lead to some of the most incredible fantasy/scifi/magicalrealism movies out there, but when they don't follow the rules that they themselves establish, it feels frustrating and incomplete

Overall I'm torn on how to rank or define my feelings, because it held itself back in a few essential spots, but what it did well it did really well.

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Man I guess I need to check out Bad Ben

Even though by the title it just sounds like a tame knockoff of Mad Max

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never heard of In The Earth but I am looking forward to seeing Old

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more horror catchup

Omori
finished this game a few days ago after seeing a couple people talking very highly of it in the VG Story topic. It's absolutely a must-play for fans of weird indie depression/horror. Strong Undertale/Earthbound vibes; equal parts goofy and fun and downright terrifying. Highly recommend.

Escape Room: Tournament of Champions
Don't watch the trailer because it'll spoil half the movie. I enjoyed it more than the first one! That being said, still a really dumb movie, but a fun one. The biggest draw here are that the puzzles themselves are more complex and intricate to solve, which makes them more fun to follow along. That also comes at the cost of the fact that, realistically, there is literally any chance any of these get solved without everybody dying except maybe the first one, as most of the danger is just completely random luck AND there's like a 90% chance of essential puzzle pieces getting destroyed by the traps before they're even discovered. It's a fun ride but man it suspends disbelief so hard that it often comes across as borderline silly. Also has some issues with pacing; the movie is under 90 minutes which gives it an insanely quick pace, which is kind of a detriment because these characters are flat even by horror movie standards and it feels like you're being rushed through these intricate and really interesting trap rooms too fast to appreciate them as much as they deserve. Anyway, worth seeing once (particularly on the big screen) but also you kinda need to turn your brain all the way off.

Maneater
Been playing this for a bit and it's barely horror, moreso just excessively violent and gruesome comedy, but it's pretty fun when the camera will stop fighting you.

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Kinda came around to the Fear Street movies by the end. What didn't work as well with the first solo was made up for by the anthology. I can't really imagine a better way for them to portray this story. There's still some obvious cheesiness (the line "Goode is evil" was particularly rough) and there are some inconsistencies (why did only a few of the killers come back to life when there were dozens of names on the stone, like the first pastor? How did they get whole buckets of blood from Deena without it effecting her? Why forget with that strategy at all if they just had to stab Nick? How did they not get charged with the death of the cops when Deena's blood is literally all over the mall? Wouldn't the lawyer of the super rich Goode family be able to exonerate a cop who had been killed in the line of duty along with two others with some wanted teenagers at the only witnesses and no legitimate evidence of Nick's crimes beyond the existence of an unmarked cave under his home? Why did the curse end by killing Nick if he still has living blood relatives that could continue the curse? If Nick wanted Deena dead so bad why not just give the devil her name? Why did the cops get murdered by the undead but then they walked right by the others?)
But overall I enjoyed it! Deena I had previously liked in Trinkets and she did great here, with a mostly solid supporting cast, great soundtrack, great lighting and set work (it might be cheesy but I loved the mall covered in blacklights). Plus a horror movie with gay main protagonists that actually survive is a pretty huge deal.

On the whole, definitely worth seeing, kinda like a special horror event, though probably not like an instant classic


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not bad! Not necessarily my favorite musically (though on the upper portion of things I've heard by them) but love the American Psycho parody in the middle of it

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I'm hesitant to click; never been an INK fan


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Censor is one of the ones I downloaded!

also Slaxx, Gaia, Fried Barry and Psycho Goreman

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I guess my issue with Fear Street is that it just falls into a bunch of tropes I'm pretty tired of. The bloody nose, the "accused witch from Salem was ACTUALLY a witch," etc

Forever Purge took itself really seriously and came across as the producers thinking it was a lot deeper than it actually was. A LOT of dumb jump scares

I might also just be getting jaded toward horror cliches. I just downloaded a handful of more obscure horrors and thrillers I hadn't heard of from this year, so hoping to find some gems

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Also for Fear St the sheriff's name is Good and they keep talking about witches so just gonna go ahead and assume he's the ancestor of Sarah Good because of course

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Done a really terrible job keeping up with this topic lately

Saw The Forever Purge. It was trash.

Pretty excited for the new Escape Room, but not necessarily because I think it'll be good

Saw House (1977) through the movie club topic a few weeks ago and that was an instant favorite

Super hyped for Last Night In Soho and new Candyman

Watching Fear Street 1994 now. Had decently high hopes for it after hearing great things about the series, but I'm not super impressed so far. It's not terrible bit it's ridiculously on the nose but not in a way that really seems self-aware of how absurd it is. Also music is soooooooooooo on the nose but I'm willing to forgive it because 94 was an excellent year for music

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Ice Leap

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Cool Hand Luke

What this movie told me most is that I need to watch more Paul Newman films, as the only ones I had seen before this were The Sting (which I thought was fine, nothing all that special) and Cars (which barely counts). He dominates every scene so effortlessly that it's easy to believe how Luke so quickly becomes the star of the prison.

I didn't know what to expect going in; I certainly didn't expect the loosely connected series of events that just happen in the daily life of the prison to be the focus, though it works surprisingly well. It tries to be both comedy and tragedy and succeeds in both in near equal parts.

I know people have pointed out how this film has an insistence on the "notgays" but man the non-toxic platonic masculinity on show here was something special. One of my favorite background moments was the prisoners playing banjo or something and one of them just dancing shirtless and flamboyant in the middle of them. There was such a dominant love between them all that bordered on romantic fascination but never quite reached it, and it feels ahead of its time.

Really dug this movie.

9/10


Seginustemple posted...

Speaking of which, the damn dog died of 'running itself plumb to death'? Is that really a thing? I replayed that scene back with CC on to confirm that's what the guy said

So (not) fun fact: the initial film featured the dog dying by accidentally hanging itself on its leash, but that was considered way too dark (for obvious reasons) so they changed it for later releases

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Christopher Nolan (10/11): Following, Memento, Insomnia, Batman Trilogy, Prestige, Inception, Interstellar, Dunkirk, Tenet

Quentin Tarantino (8/9): Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, Kill Bill, Death Proof, Inglourious Basterds, Django Unchained, Hateful Eight, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

David Fincher (8/11): Alien 3, Se7en, The Game, Fight Club, Panic Room, Zodiac, Benjamin Button, Social Network, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Gone Girl, Mank

Wes Anderson (8/9): Bottle Rocket, Rushmore, The Royal Tenenbaums, Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou, Darjeeling Limited, Fantastic Mr. Fox, Moonrise Kingdom, Grand Budapest Hotel, Isle of Dogs

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kateee posted...

question: have you seen The Lobster before?

have you seen this director's other works before?

Yes I've watched The Lobster three times lol

And yes, so far I've seen The Lobster, Dogtooth, The Killing of a Sacred Deer and The Favourite. All good! Though I liked Dogtooth less than the rest

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Mad Max

It is the only movie of those that I haven't seen multiple times

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Camden posted...

Riki-Oh and Paddington would make a unique movie if fused together.

They're both nearly perfect movies

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Ma Rainey's Black Bottom

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so anyway

Perfect Blue

I am a sucker for a good bent-reality, unreliable narrator thriller, which is exactly what this is. I had been meaning to see this for a while, in part because I loved Paranoia Agent and in part because I love Black Swan, and the film definitely held up to that high expectation. Mima is entirely engrossing as a protagonist, the same way Nina was in Black Swan (though I really love the use of the idol-Mima who, due to the nature of the medium, was able to have a much larger, more supernatural role). In particular, seeing her bounce along at insane, unrealistic speed was so satisfying (and reminded me a lot of Lil' Slugger's effortlessly quick and nimble movement in Paranoia Agent) and made her that much more terrifying.

Throughout the buildup of the film, the soundtrack stood out a lot. Eerie, quiet chords juxtaposed with loud, grating sounds really just amplified the tension. Then, around 2/3 in, the film just starting flying rapid-fire through dream sequences and red herrings in such a way that we're left wondering what is true and what isn't, much as Mima is, and it just works so well.

9/10, and I'd definitely say it's on the higher end of that.

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kateee posted...

One of my favorite shots is near the end when Mima is being chased by Rumi and it shows Mima-Rumi effortlessly skipiping but the mirror shows the older woman sweating and out-of-breath running.

See, this scene actually has me wondering. Earlier in this scene, we see idol-Mima bouncing around effortlessly on rooftops and ducking through all sorts of obstacles and... realistically, Rumi is a middle-aged, heavy set woman. Even if we accept that what we're seeing her do is a warped perception of Mima's mind, that still means Rumi is rapidly chasing her and jumping across the rooftops and it's hard to suspend disbelief enough to accept that that's something Rumi would be capable of. I mean hell, I'm a big guy in my 20s and I sure as hell couldn't do all that. In a movie where it's hard to tell what is and isn't real I can't help but wonder if that scene was exactly what we were led to believe it was.

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Xeybozn posted...

Did the Gauntlet Crew ever do Memories in one of the anime rankings? Kon directed the first segment in that one (and it's the only thing he directed you didn't mention).

yup, it was in the last one, around Summer 2020 I believe? Did pretty well, mostly just for Kon's segment

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