Lurker > Isquen

Nanis23 posted...

This game is such a mess. Worst yet is that the community refuse to admit it's the worst mainline game in the series so you can't go in thinking "oh this is the black sheep of the series" like you do with X7
Anyway not only is this game terrible, but the level design is so punishing and terrible that you might think that this is how the whole series is supposed to be

Metal Shark Player's level of "oops came in normal gear you can't beat the level now" can go screw itself and I agree with like all of this.

Seriously how did X6 fuck everything up so bad?

Anyways:

Dislike Morgana for being boneheaded and causing a certain palace to be harder than necessary. Also hate nav work before 2nd best girl joins.

Tolerate Teddie's puns but hate his nav work before Rise joins.

Koromaru doesn't talk which makes him way better than half the party by default and also it's a friggin dog with an Evoker. Win by default.

MZero posted...

Obligatory haven't played P3 yet

I like both Teddie and Morgana a lot, but Teddie a little bit more. He was my favorite of the Persona 4 cast. His English voice is god awful though. I've never heard Morgana's though so I guess it could be just as bad

Played League? Yuumi's voice, basically.

I had such culture shock moving out here to Ohio. Everybody around cares more about college teams than the NFL.

Hell, people STILL aren't talking about it, and I just got back from lunch at the bar.

Taloon was amazing, though?

Anyways, went for Time Mage. Who cares if I need to take a week long sabbatical to drop a pretty starstorm on someone's head? I can just rewind it afterwards!

Or pull a Tellah and die. That's okay too.

LiquidOshawott posted...

Oh actually is Game of Thrones seasons a solid choice here

Only if the last two seasons are bottom of the barrel.

Oh, well, huh. Cool.
##vote: Tidus

Shut up and prove your deadlock.

Undetectable killing. But whatever.

##unvote
##vote: Isquen

Crescent-Moon posted...

Ok Plum put this better.

Yep. It's quite stupid, and yet abusable if I got possessed.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Also Isquen, why did you accuse me of claiming a confirmable power I don't have?

What exactly would be my endgame? Hope town is dumb enough to just let me go unproven all game

Yes, honestly, and I'm kind of tempted to force a deadlock vote even if it'll likely end in my own death.

I haven't posted in hours because I'm at work until a half hour after day's end and have nothing to contribute because apparently I self incriminate when I open my mouth.

But if you're going to post my vote totals, need I remind you the only bad vote I did was mislynching Ulti, and it sucks either way.

Mega Man classic series, probably.

Yes, 2 and 3 are way up, as is 9. Yes, 11 is down near the bottom, but some people love 4 and hate 5, or vice versa, people ignore 6 entirely, I love 7 despite its awful final boss and yet people hate it, and so on.

AxemRedRanger posted...

Mega Man X > X4 => X2 > X3 > X5 > X6 > X7

X8 is somewhere above X6 and below X2.

I can get behind this one.

I'm also going (back to) bed. 7 AM here, only awake from trash company doing their pickups.

Ultima 4 > 6 > 7-1 > UW1 > UW2 > Martian Dreams > 7-2 > Savage Empire > 5 > 3 >>>> 1 > 8 > 2 >>>>>> 9

Quality between Martian Dreams and 3 debatable.

Been watching from the sidelines because holy hell I tell everyone I'm worse than useless and just wanted to feel important than it circled into a shit spiral. But whatever.

I'm like 95% certain Tidus is one. As for pairings of individual suspicions:

With Crescent: she's been offering so little with so many words. I don't buy the divinity claim one bit, and the role boiling down to "trust me bro" is a big ehn. Also accused me of Godfather when I never even realized Godfather would scan as good, and asked as such with "that's a thing?

With Mike: I could see it. It's basically agreed that even with the supposed scan ability they get lynched soon by everyone. I still think today is not the day for it, as some things in the background don't add up (such as Scare voting him on the way out.)

With MZero: doubtful, but the suspicion's there. I'm still more inclined to think it was a single use shot that *caused* scanner abilities, since that'd be fitting with Y'shtola. Or the scanner ability is being bullshitted for feeling important, like I did with the surveillance claim.

With plum: circumstantially nonsuspicious (Chris surveilling a roleblocker,) which makes them suspicious as a result, but way far down the list at the moment. Still, it resides in the back of my mind, with how they've been voting, and keep throwing shade my way without offering anything in return.

With red: I can buy a doctor claim at this point, and think tempering might just be a flavor trap (if it isn't, kill Crescent, the only one here so far that has claimed a literal primal.) If not dead tomorrow, though, priority one to lynch.

If I'm wrong about Tidus, presuming 3 scum, we're screwed anyway, but other likely pairings:
Red/Mzero
Mike/Crescent
Red/Crescent

Zero in skyrim.
Hundreds in Runescape. Summoning won't perform itself!

Crescent-Moon posted...

I don't think anyone has openly sussed me since the start of day 2.

Well then, you should feel honored, Luigi, and I anxiously await you winning by doing absolutely nothing.

Oops, didn't bold.

##unvote
##vote: Tidus

Leafeon13N posted...

Scare scans as town, that is what godfather does.

That's a thing?

And I haven't said a thing because I was sleeping, you goober, and now I'm getting ready for work.

Mzero, really, with the "flavor scan" thing? What's next, the dead banana twins walk out of plum's locked house because plum has corpse scanning that also gets to revive on scan?

...that actually sounds like an Emet-Selch ability and Mzero *did* die night one. Which would make Mzero scum aligned too.

Tidus is never throwing any suspicion Crescent's way, and the more she throws at me, the more I'm convinced to vote her out of spite.

##unvote
##vote: Tidus

So I'll get her underling instead.

You know what, I'm the impatient sort, and I'd rather spend three days not worrying.

"Sure then, I'll fire it out before I die. Writing this during Night 3 for the endgame, in case I die, or Day 4, in case I survive.

So, I'm gonna lead with a confession: I was telling a half-truth, and leaving off some extra flavor of mine. I do indeed have the Ninja ability of undetectability if I visit someone... but no actual ability to leave my house during the night. That could've been really, really bad if Scare had claimed it.

This also, naturally, means I was bluffing that I saw plum also and going off of Chris's claim, plus trying to make a credible one for night 2, when I haven't done squat but try and paint a target on myself the end of day 3 so that an actual helpful role wouldn't get offed. I may have overthought it a little. (I also did not, in fact, go to red's as claimed.)

0. My thoughts towards Scare early, for a refresher: "A multinight one?" (referring to the ability to be a corpsetaker) "No way that would be a town role. And if you had taken bodyguard, you would've died if anyone had fired at Ulti, as claimed. I feel it would've taken precedence over the bulletproof, almost like a needless sacrifice. Or, you DO have that ability, as Scum hades, and did it in case someone was a lookout, for example, so you can back up that claim." Also immediately jumped on me for making one mistaken edit, so screw 'im. (Side note, who deleted something on page 9 of day 2?)

1. Red: I called out that I was gonna target you so that a.) someone with scum team would waste a block on me, b.) try to kill me, or c.) Hope that my bogus flavor kicked in and I'd die from the attempt. Tried to pin the blame on MZero early in day 3 for wasting a role action. Also not voting for scum, but leading the charge on town lynches, and being an ass when challenged.

2. Chris: Gonna apologize here for claiming your role; in actuality, I don't have a damn ability at all, just the flavor text of one that scum could use if they claimed my body. I am much less suspicious of a Thancred claim now that Lahabrea is gone, too. That said, I don't know if it's a lookout ability, so much as it could be a lockdown ability (hence why Plum says they couldn't move night 1.) Been relatively antagonistic for most of the game in general, and mostly useless. (And now that the night has passed, oh look, they're dead.)

3. Crescent: I could buy into the Mothercrystal claim and an interaction with WoL, but wouldn't that also work with Ardbert, too? Hasn't voted but for once on me on day 1 from a "hey it's a new player get 'im" standpoint, not even to seal Scare's fate, even after I proferred a bunch of info (even if some of it was bogus.) Was leaning neutral towards town, now a bit more suspicious unless the role power comes to... light, because literally nothing of value has come from this beyond some discordant discourse.
"If you have a virtually identical claim to Chris, how do you not immediately counter?"
Good read, though, even if I think you're more suspicious of Mike at this point.

4. MZero: I still find the catnap either wasted (which I can buy) or getting hidden inside your own place as scum by a teammate for credibility purposes. That is a *really* strong role for a town to have, I feel, and it was wasted. Leaning neutral, though, through arguments. Also pointed out by plum: "Wouldnt scum who can remove themselves from the game be in the banned roles category? save that role till lylo, go invisible, auto win?"

5. Plum: I've been thinking they've been suspicious, but the above kinda draws away from that a bit, all the more so if they got role-locked as claimed. Which means, yes, I was wrong calling out "at least one scum between Mike and Plum" for the day 1 votes; more on that later. That said, if you got role-locked, what *is* your role? (And now that Chris is dead, you're much, much more credible, but I'd still like to know.)

6. Tidus: Extremely passive and sounds out of their depth, if town. Waffling on votes a lot, unvotes (probably to see if I'll self-incriminate) yesterday only to put a vote back when "this is getting nowhere." Getting a large scum read from 'em, especially with some hindsight of the Day 2 discourse when we all did the dumb and voted Ulti getting flavor trapped. Also was a voter against Bat. Probably pulled the kill shot on Scare after being told that nobody rose to the bait of trying to lynch me instead.

7. Mike: With how minimalist most of the flavor profiles have been so far, and how useless the Ulti communication has been (let's face it, ANY of us could've told you that Ulti is probably fuming from the sidelines if he had open comms) I'm now 50% spooked that they're Mafia Zenos instead of Third Party Ardbert to curry favor, as Ulti's flip didn't mention anything about a hidden power. Alas, hindsight is 2020. So I posit this: has Mike already "won" even if he's third party, or is he forced to work with the town with the Ardbert flavor? Also, thank you for confirming me as good, even if you're scum (but also if you're evil, which you'd know by default.) That said, I think there's more important to lynch tonight.

Day 4 Isquen here: Current leanings are Red/Tidus, Red/Crescent, or Red/Mike, in that order, and I agree to kill Mike after today if we get three scum. Hell, even if we don't.

You're welcome. I'll see you all on day 5 or after the game, whichever is more likely, but I think my time as a scapegoat has come and gone when I'm basically a vanilla but *worse.*

Crescent-Moon posted...

Red is -1 already.

Yes, I'm aware of that.

I think it's more "Ulti is a jackass to everyone for no reason" that led *my* vote. Thank you for confirming me innocent even though that doesn't prove your own innocence, though!

Still waiting, red!

##vote: Red

And hey, if I die overnight, that's all the better, 'cuz it'll answer some questions without me needing to.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Bus refers to any setup in which one scum is trying to lynch another scum.

Ah. (I hadn't realized we moved to page 2, I've been waiting.) Might as well drop a text dump then, to spice it up, because I'm basically useless at this point (not that I haven't been already.)

...Unless Red wants to speak up!

What does bus mean in this scenario?

masterplum posted...

I want a claim of everything you did every night

Agreed, but let's allow red to post claim first.

Crescent-Moon posted...

What about last night?

A big load of nothing, but that itself is telling, 'cuz I have some other info.

Hey, red, wanna spill?

Hello, I'm back from work and dinner and catching up, but let's shuffle my current suspicious-list in order from most to least.

Red
Tidus
Mike
Crescent
MZero
Plum

Other: a literal zombie.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I'm actually surprised no one tried to sooner.

Probably because, unlike some of these other clowns, you actually *talk.*

Crescent-Moon posted...

You seem to have been unaware that Scare had been -1 for ~20 hours, yourself, given your immediate unvote when I pointed it out.

I have to sleep too, you realize, and I was one of the earlier votes, but if you're upset about that, I can always just

##vote: Scare

again.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Wait. You're now claiming you're a weak scanner that can accidentally kill yourself at night?

Yes, and it sucks.

Also, I'm noticing something, Crescent; you didn't vote in either day at all beyond one on me on day 1. Does your power role involve a one-use nuclear button if you think someone's going to get mislynched with the downside of not being able to vote normally (hence the removal of my sus vote day 1, if you got called out/warned about it?)

Or am I overthinking, again?

masterplum posted...

oh hey isquen role blocked me night 1.

Neat

If I role-blocked you night 1, Mike wouldn'tve been able to aether scan night 2, as he claimed.

There are some other relevant parts of the flavor I've cut out to someone I'm not sure of if they're in the game yet, and if I visit a certain person by mistake, I die. I rolled the dice night one, and knew I was safe (unless targeted) night two.

Crescent-Moon posted...

This is exactly what Chris claimed.

To the letter.

Which is why I still suspect Chris, FYI. They're claiming another lookout role, and need I remind via flavor text that Lahabrea was possessing him in ARR. And Lahabrea was one of the unsundered Ascians.

Could he be good Thancred with Pure Aether? Yes. Could he be evil Thancred with Lahabrea inside, still having pure aether? Also yes. Could there be two townies with a surveillance role? Doubt. Could be Chris covering plum and they're both scum? Still a possibility. I realize I have no way of confirming myself short of dying, and I get why it's still fishy as hell.

Night 2 should be obvious. I visited Mike to see if anyone would try to go after them. I saw a visitor, but nobody died.

Because I don't see *who* visited, only that they *were.*

In fact, I'll state my claim right here, too, and my intentions for the night, should I make it there.

"You are...Yugiri Mistwalker! TOWN Ninja

As a Ninja, if you visit someone during the night, your actions will not be seen by any roles monitoring movements. Hmm."

Sorta like a lookout in that I can see if someone gets visited in the night, but I can't tell who or how many (this checks out, given I looked at plum night one, and why I remained suspicious since they didn't die.)

Gonna attempt to stake out red tonight if anyone wants to try and watch to prove it.

I'm still down for more discussion, so I'll

##unvote

for now so someone doesn't just go "fuck it" and seal it off. Still dead-set on Scare for the moment.

I'm just getting the feeling they know they're dead and so do their partners, but not all the partners are throwing them under the bus. Yet.

(All said it's barely 7-10 AM in the US, which could be a reason. I know *I'm* wiped.)

The Duck Hunt Shulk matches were neat. And goddamn my muscle memory as him sucks. Like, I remember what each art does but you quick swap so much better than I can, so used to the "mash x times" from 4.

Hm, I'm liking watching this from the sidelines. Maybe I should pick Ultimate back up.

I'm going with the presumption we have three scum, which means a dead town game if we lynch another town, right? Short of special nighttime interactions, of course.

Gonna turn in for the night, today has kicked my ass. Will re-evaluate in the morning or whenever my stupid internal clock decides to awaken me.

But a summary of thought process:
Suspicious by inactivity: Scare, Tidus, red
I don't buy certain claims: plum, Chris, Mzero (likely one of the former two is the mouthpiece for the inactives, and probably advising Scare to eat the loss)
Trustable for today?? Mike/Crescent (though I'm still 5% spooked at the possibility of Mike fabricating WoD while being Zenos due to not being night killed but there was a LOT of flavor metaing going on yesterday.)

Gothorita is "most improved" between its creepy baby form Gothita and the too many bows form of Gothitelle.

I am immensely sad G-Mime loses out on some of the creepy.

I'm on afternoon break for a moment, so current thoughts:

1.) Tidus is coasting and is probably a scum vote later.
2.) I concur with the gut feeling of Scare being scum revealing their actual power, 'cuz they can yoink BP at night if we have a vigilante. Also, Hades as a good guy? I know we're overthinking a lot, but come on.

Browsing in bed.

A one-time "use their role" thing i would buy for town.

A multinight one? No way that would be a town role. And if you had taken bodyguard, you would've died if anyone had fired at Ulti, as claimed. I feel it would've taken precedence over the bulletproof, almost like a needless sacrifice. Or, you DO have that ability, as scum hades, and did it in case someone was a lookout, for example, so you can back up that claim.

My vote stays.

Oops, misvoted.
##unvote
##vote: Scare