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green dragon posted...

Full Throttle posted...

That means if they are unable to serve in a war zone or take part in a training or serve on a ship for months, then they must go.

That's cool as long as it applies to nontransgender people as well

Yep, should apply to cis service people as well.

I actually agree that it's worded too vaguely to realistically be enforced.

Isn't using racial, sexist, or homophobic speech already a crime in certain settings though? Misgendering is a form of transphobia, so it should just be included with that.

Yay!

Seriously though, knowingly misgendering someone and misgendering a stranger are two different things.

Who is this law bigoted against?

There is not "forcing reality" on anyone. Trans people have existed as long as the rest of humanity. Education of this has been non existent until recently. It is much easier to erase identities outside of the accepted majority, then it is to educate the majority. Especially when the majority has no interest in learning.

Also, earlier in the topic someone mentioned "not catering to 1%" or something of that nature. By that logic we should also ignore
- Physically disabled people
- Red haired people
- Australians
- The incredibly wealthy
- All politicians

Even just 1% of the population is millions of people.

I find people who don't like being called cis, are also people not used to being belittled or demeaned for something related to their identity they can not control.

*cough* cis hetero caucasian men *cough* *cough*

Cis is not an offensive term. That is all I have to say about that.

Just to clarify, those experiences I have gone through are commonly experienced by cis women as well. It's really not just a trans thing. There are other issues I go through from being trans, but those aren't it.

I'm really just trying to gain a perspective on your experience, but was your dad around?

In my own experience I can tell you I am treated vastly different.

What was seen as ambition and leadership, is now viewed as nagging. Overall, I am taken less seriously, especially if I display even the slightest emotion. Before if I was angry and yelled, people would stop and listen, taking why I was angry seriously. Now I'm just seen as emotional. I did things at my job the same way for years, then all of the sudden I am under a microscope of everything I do, and I am much more likely to be called out on a tiny mistake. My male counterparts doing similar things are "fine" though. I do the same amount of work, but get less credit.

I too was raised to be independent, I just know a lot of women do not receive that benefit of believing they can be.

Ok, you were taught independence. Do you have any feminine people in your family?

Alright Pyro, I just have a couple questions I want you to ask yourself.

1. Growing up, were you able to enjoy movies, games, shows ect. Where the main character was someone you could relate to because they were the same gender (probably race too)? Think about how many you found relatable as compared to those you didn't.

2. Also growing up, were you taught to stand up for yourself and not allow anything to get in your way? Or were you taught to look pretty and how to maintain the household, because that's what attracts a partner that will take care of you.

Did you enjoy the most recent Ghost Busters? Why not? Was it because the only real prominent male was really just eye candy?

PyroBlade1985 posted...

IronBornCorps posted...

O PLEASE explain sexism to me...I really need a masculine perspective on sexism.

Alright then, how about you bitchsplain it to me?

I would love to have a civilized discussion, but your being really emotional. Have you eaten?

O PLEASE explain sexism to me...I really need a masculine perspective on sexism.

The_Beta_Male posted...

IronBornCorps posted...

Transgender women are women.
Transgender men are men.

Cisgender women are women
Cisgender men are men

Kana, I really know how you feel though. A lot of people simply don't want to learn.

Apples are apples.
Oranges are oranges.

A painted apple is still an apple.
A painted orange is still an orange.

What are you trying to say?

I dun get it?? Please mansplain middle school biology to me? Please? Please?

It was wrong of me to assume I understood all of your feelings, but I definitely feel frustration for very similar reasons.

Transgender women are women.
Transgender men are men.

Cisgender women are women
Cisgender men are men

Kana, I really know how you feel though. A lot of people simply don't want to learn.

^.^b

Here is a current pic.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n8/HardcoreTeddy/received_256152581541438_zpstvhk75uc.jpeg

Hormone Replacement Therapy, I've been at it for a year now.

Woot woot!

I too am bored.

These social issues are not just limited to gaming. Gaming is just a popular medium that has expanded it's audience in the last decade. More diverse audiences want diverse representation.

"Hearts not parts" is something I see in reference to pansexuality.

I know a couple bisexual people that found me attractive, so they can explore outside the gender binary. I think bisexual is a bit generational as well, as usually it's older people using the label.

Limited edition, probably testing to see if the small batch sells well. Sonic is pretty recognizable as well, and SEGA probably needed that license fee since the last couple games haven't been super great.

I would say Blue Lives Matter is a close second for me.

Kentucky is a commonwealth state, I bet that's why it happened there as opposed to another state.

I hope if there is a USS Trump, it's a little dingy.
*edit*
And it only does humanitarian missions.

dioxxys posted...

@IronBornCorps posted...

Men's rights activists or MRA by FAR.

why?

Men aren't oppressed for being men.
*edit*
Plus a movement for equality through empowering everyone and dismantling toxic power structures has been around well before MRA came around.

skullbone posted...

Penn Station > All of the other crappy sandwich places

I'm glad someone said it

Men's rights activists or MRA by FAR.

I was born among salt and smoke, and will someday return to the drowned god. What is dead may never die!

Is it really unsightly though? I mean almost everyone has pubic hair. Being shaven bald is really mostly in the porn.

Just wait for the next DSM. It wasn't that long ago homosexuality was considered a mental illness. Being transgender will follow suit. A potential medical condition, yes. Mental illness no, it just leaves many more prone to mental illness.

NuclearCommando posted...

IronBornCorps posted...

- a character is MASH ("pathetic trans" archetype, whereas this character has no chance to "pass". Also this character is effectively a man in a dress, reinforcing that popular narrative.

I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to correct you on this.
Klinger wasn't trying to be trans. He wanted out of the war so he was trying to get a section 8 (psychiatric discharge). The cross-dressing was just one of many attempts in trying to get one.

He actively refused a discharge because said discharge would've labeled him as a transvestite and a homosexual, which he balks against.

And as the seasons go on, he eventually stops cross-dressing, especially after taking over Radar's job as company clerk.

He still cross dressed a great deal of episodes, and it was always for comic relief. Also how is crossdressing to get section 8 not reinforce the idea that gender dysphoria is a mental illness? Also, not even a man who wore a dress wants to be labeled a homosexual or trans in that show, because those are just horrible things to be right? Do you know the origin of the word "bad"?

I'm also curious as to this "help" you are proposing. If they see a mental specialist, those are the people who usually write surgical recommendations and gender marker changes.

Surely you aren't implying conversation therapy, as that doesn't work.

The most effective treatment has been transition.

Media has improved in the last couple years in regards to trans people. In the past off the top of my head...

- 1st Ace Ventura (main villain is a trans woman with deceiver archetype)

- Crying game (more deceiver archetype)

- a character is MASH ("pathetic trans" archetype, whereas this character has no chance to "pass". Also this character is effectively a man in a dress, reinforcing that popular narrative.

Dude Where's My Car, Rocky Horror Picture Show, pretty much anything featuring a gender variant made before 2012.

Also, I highly doubt you are welcome into trans circles, because if you were you would know they aren't trying to trick anyone.

I am not missing his point. He said "tricking people into gay sex" is promoted in trans circles, it's really not. I promise you it's not.

Then he goes on about how anyone who really cares about others wouldn't support and enable this behavior. Did I miss something? I think you missed the point in my post, because a lot of beliefs about trans people do come from media representation.

Female, about the same.

I lol'd at "tricked into gay sex".

First of all, you are no gay for being attracted to the feminity of trans women.

Second of all, trans people aren't trying to trick you. This belief arises from poor media representation that spent decades villanizing trans women and erasing trans men.

Seriously, think of a movie of show (not Orange is the new black or Shameless) with a trans person. I bet they are either a sex worker, an antagonist, or portrayed as a complete joke. Some of you have been brainwashed into believing these media tropes are accurate. Which unfortunate, because they cause a lot of violence to trans people.

Not all transgender people go through these various procedures though, and cis people get plastic surgery as well.

Well trans people are born in nature, and have been documented throughout history. How is that not natural? Also, topic said natural, not normal.

They aren't

Life of Pi

Anyone eat the booty?

I'm female and I have pegged guys, no option for me. Though I have been on the recieving end as well. It's not bad, deep breaths and plenty of lube.

Claim oppression and stifling of free speech. Bring my own social media followers and start all out internet gang warfare.

I am offended and will write a wall o' text explaining why I am offended, and no one will read it.

Fairly sure under 30.

Water is also amazing.