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Leafeon13N posted...

Yeah that would be bad.

I don't see any avoiding it tbh. You didn't claim, you have done much have analysis, you haven't even given us much to consider in the event you flip town.

The only thing raising my hackles is the ease at which you became the defacto lynch, but I was not a fan of your vibes on day 1 or 2 so overall I'm fine with it.

I think Ben is the only person I would consider voting over you today

htaeD posted...

Also I feel like we have all had turns helping Knightz, which we dont hold against him of course.

That's not the impression I've gotten at all.

Ultimately I agree that red did not do nearly enough to move the needle today. He's been on my scum list for awhile so I'm ready to move things along. My main concern today was that it feels like we defaulted into the red lynch with little to no pushback of any kind. You'd expect red's scummates to have had some kind of counterplay in mind coming into the day, so where was it? But anyways

##Vote: Red

That should be -1.

Enchantress posted...

I think Red has had more excuse posts than content posts by an order of magnitude, highly scummy. I'm promoting FD to second scummiest over Death because he's still spending most of his time just engaging with Knightz weird sarcastic trolling and/or newbie comments

I'm the only one even attempting to make sure that knightz is not operating under complete misunderstandings.

So either he's taking the random crap you say at face value, in which case you are trolling him or he's pretending to take nonsense at face value and he is trolling me.

It seems like the former, but the fact that that I'm the only one trying to give context to knightz and press him to not just accept what's being told to him as absolute truth is very concerning to me.

ItzKnightz posted...

she claimed scum

And I'm letting you know that she either did that as a joke as town, or because she was feeling especially cheeky as actual scum.

The version where she is actually a reformed scum member is not possible. That doesn't exist.

ItzKnightz posted...

Why don't we just lynch Red instead of Lea, Corrik?
Lea is a reformed scum member and on our side so we have no reason to lynch her.

Knightz, I need to know that YOU know there is no such thing as a "reformed scum member". I am unable to tell if you are being serious or not.

Either you think she is town who made a joke or you think she might actually be scum.

Well this would be the appropriate time for red to get some posts in.

Either a considerably good reason why he should not be lynched, or some solid impressions of everyone else that can be considered in the event he flips town.

If we waited*

Day ended tomorrow unless someone gets enough votes first.

I'd prefer if we. I feel like we've barely discussed anything today.

Can we also get a proper list of the living and the dead?

I guess we did that too, but the Israeli server has seemed so poorly managed.

I'm curious what they even needs the ingots for.

I'd rather support the Ukrainian server.

And I'm sure that's wrong.

I'm at a birthday party right now or I'd go through it myself.

-1 means he was one vote away from being lynched.

Today it takes 5 votes to confirm a lynch early, so at some point he had 4 votes.

Red was at -1 at some point so something is missing

I was trying to underscore the ridiculousness of saying "I claimed town" in a game where the scum is expected to lie.

I agree that he probably is just town based upon those early interactions, but he's going to have to approach the game more critically at some point. Otherwise he's setting himself up to be manipulated into being the reason scum wins late game, which is something I would like to avoid.

Maybe I'm "mean" for pointing that out, but I don't think I'm wrong either.

ItzKnightz posted...

I see lynching You, FD and Death. But why me? I claimed town remember?

I also claim Town.

htaeD posted...

Also starting to believe Red may be at least partially telling the truth about his work schedule, since I havent seen him be this abysmally inactive in a long time.

I mean that is easy enough to verify, though I agree that he would have found more time to scum hunt before/after work if he was really trying to.

But last night and today is a bad example because he's going from an evening shift to an afternoon shift, which again can be independently verified.

The only thing that stands in contrast is the way he ended day 2 without using those final hours. Looking back it was actually 4.5 hours and other than saying we wouldn't leash the sk (which most of us agreed with) he didn't contribute much to day 2.

ItzKnightz posted...

90% sure that SBell's role is those little green men.

That's what he's been implying, but if he's one of the bad guys then he's been given a list of characters who are NOT in the town so he can safely pretend to be someone on that list.

I agree with red and Ben as potential lynches, but am I only on your list because I'm not being as nice to you and challenging you to explain yourself?

You'll come to find that scum like to be overly nice to make you trust them, and if you're actually town you should develop a healthy mistrust of anyone who is being nice for no reason.

Well the main villain from TS1 was sid.

So that would just leave Lotso from 3 and Gabby Gabby from 4

Potentially the chicken man from 2 as well? Emperor Zerg maybe?

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No one feels like they are even making an attempt at solving. And if it's not red, then what have we got?

Even if it is red, we assume 3 scum remaining so this lynch is coming together too easily, isn't it? Why aren't his scummates putting another option forward? He was getting votes yesterday over the self professed SK so clearly they would have known some sus was coming.

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I'm going to re read Chang tomorrow and see if that gives any insight onto why he was killed. Scum literally knew his only contribution feature was talking once at night. Did they fear his "confirmed" status more than killing off someone who might have a real power?

Anyways my movie is starting now. I'll be back in a few hours if the day is still going

Enchantress posted...

He hammered early,

He hammered a few hours early.

On the CLAIMED serial killer.

When not much else was being discussed.

There is still a reason to be sus of red for his hammer, but that wasn't it

I feel like I'm in bizarro world right now. No one is making sense. Can I get Lopen back please?

Self votes are not allowed generally. Why is that your fear?

And THAT is a good reason to lynch someone 2 hours into the day without them even having the opportunity to even claim?

Has anyone even said why it feels like it's red except for me?

That puts him to -1 fyi
And while I agree with his lynch, what is the rush?

PunishedBen posted...

FD saying you need to be lynched

That's not what I said

ItzKnightz posted...

Honestly you can lynch Red anytime, my plan will find out who's scum and who's not : )

How, exactly?

PunishedBen posted...

It makes sense to me. Read post #320

Its silly, but i get the plan

Very silly. You don't keep alive the person you think is scum too throw a gift at them and see what happens.

They could simply kill knightz(if he's actually town)

We also need to consider lynching Corrik who seemed to say that he could "reload" his day kill and yet scum decided to kill the messenger instead of him?

PunishedBen posted...

Knightz already claimed all of this day 1 and back then also said he doesn't know what the clothing does

I recall him saying that yes.

So he's provided nothing new and nothing that explains what reads as a threat to give a gift to someone most of us consider likely scum.

Also we're not going to be hearing from red any time soon because "reasons" so that payoff will have to wait until late tonight or tomorrow at the earliest.

ItzKnightz posted...

its not threatening, its tricking but I've already said too much.

You really haven't because it doesn't make sense.

Not especially.

You mean to say you don't know what your clothes do?

And why are you "threatening" to give clothes to red?

ItzKnightz posted...

I always get roleblocked.
Should I just claim for you guys to get off my back about what my plan is?

Yes

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Hush, Jafar

You support what exactly?

Knightz seems to be implying he has the ability to kill red? If not then I don't understand what he's getting at.

In either case, I was surprised to see red hammer after asking for us not to the the day early the day before. Why ask for the full 48 hours, then not use it and not provide any new reads with the extra time you did get?

A baffling and poor look from red.

Uglyface2 posted...

The Amazing Johnathan had a similar knife gag in his show. I still have no idea how he (and Al) pulled it off.

Pulled what off? I'm still not convinced it wasn't real

I didn't even realize the complaints were trans related in any way, i thought it was just because they look worse on average <_<

The 1 base model argument makes sense, but then maybe the system wasn't ready if it takes so much work to get something passable compared to what we previously had.

my wife and sister in law are not a fan of the changes. We still go out and play at least a couple times a week so they are plugged into the game and still pretty unhappy.

It isn't "you can look exactly like you did before, but now you have more options" and is more of a "everything is different, and not necessarily in good ways"

I would apologize for posting 4 (now 5) times in a row, but I'm really not sorry for interrupting the whole lot of nothing that has been happening since yesterday.

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ALSO NL was only 1 vote behind the leader when I left. There was still a chance ya'll got a clue and did the right thing, albeit a small one.

ItzKnightz posted...

He has a point

He really doesn't though. His claim of 'defensive' is being applied to the wrong part of my reply. So while I WAS being defensive, it was not about the part he quoted, which is why I felt like he was trying to misattribute the different aspects of my response.

htaeD posted...

Well to be technical, he was not around for the deadline.
Though he did leave with the verbalized intent to not want to join any lynch, even though he was getting votes himself.

This as well. I thought I might be home from the dentist before the deadline but wasn't positive and didn't care much either way. Either I got lynched or someone else did and there wasn't much I could do about that. I made my position clear that i was not going to be involved in making anyone claim.

PunishedBen posted...

I never said the second part of your post had anything to do with that first sentence. That is in fact why I only quoted the first sentence. :P

You called me defensive, and I wasn't being defensive about the me/chang connection at all, in fact I said the same could be said about me and literally anyone else. scum/scum pairing involving me is not possible

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Pivot to who, myself?

I didn't know it was town/town and so I honestly hoped you would find scum in spite of yourselves. Alas.

Like you're conflating two completely different aspects of your OWN post in an attempt to paint my response negatively/incorrectly.

I wasn't responding defensively to the part where Chang and I can't be scummates. I agree with that part.

But I did defend myself against the other nonsense about "hiding", sure.

To be fair I can't be in a scum/scum pair with anyone, as I am not scum.

I am also not "hiding" behind anything.

NL was objectively correct Day 1, ya'll fucked that one up.

I was prepared to lynch the guilty scan today regardless of who it was. I didn't know it would be an Indy until ctes revealed details.

These are pretty obvious takes, sure, but they are also 100% authentic.

I would have if i didn't previously use my vote to put you back to -1 during your long stretch of not claiming.

that would legitimately be hilarious, and we'd deserve it for what we did to poor lopen day 1