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TopicNone of you leftist believed me when i told you about the Awan's months ago.
FLUFFYGERM
09/15/17 8:12:54 PM
#12
Omnislasher posted...
the democratic party is right-wing so leftists don't support them


haha
TopicJudge: Sessions can't deny grant money to sanctuary cities
FLUFFYGERM
09/15/17 7:57:11 PM
#76
also when did the left start calling conservatives "red hats" roflmao
TopicJudge: Sessions can't deny grant money to sanctuary cities
FLUFFYGERM
09/15/17 7:56:15 PM
#74
Doom_Art posted...
Zikten posted...
people misunderstand my points all the time. that's the whole reason people think I'm a racist and a nazi. from misunderstanding what I was saying.

if everyone is misunderstanding you then it's probably a problem on your end


he's on CE though. most of the people here are unbelievably stupid.
TopicPolls suggest voters just aren't that concerned with trade
FLUFFYGERM
09/15/17 6:44:13 PM
#5
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Lmao polls
TopicJudaism is the original. Christianity is the sequel. Islam is the reboot.
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 6:02:28 PM
#23
Zikten posted...
So then why are you saying "everyone agrees Jews are the original "? You admit they used to be pagans


arent we talking about the abrahamic arc
TopicJudaism is the original. Christianity is the sequel. Islam is the reboot.
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 5:59:08 PM
#21
Zikten posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Zikten posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Zikten posted...
Judaism isn't even the original actually. ancient hebrews were pagans. over time, they evolved their religion during a cultural change, into what we now call Judiasm. they used to worship multiple gods. the name Israel comes from the fact that their chief god was named El. hence, "Land of El"


literally all of that is discussed at length in the Jewish old testament

yea i know. they retcon it so that they were Jews since the dawn of time. but we know from archeological evidence that the Jewish religion is not as old as the human race. cave men were not Jews.


wtf are you talking about? it isnt retconned at all. it openly says abraham and his ancestors were pagan peoples.

you must have read a different bible than I did


no you definitely dont remember it right
TopicJudaism is the original. Christianity is the sequel. Islam is the reboot.
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 5:57:40 PM
#18
Zikten posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Zikten posted...
Judaism isn't even the original actually. ancient hebrews were pagans. over time, they evolved their religion during a cultural change, into what we now call Judiasm. they used to worship multiple gods. the name Israel comes from the fact that their chief god was named El. hence, "Land of El"


literally all of that is discussed at length in the Jewish old testament

yea i know. they retcon it so that they were Jews since the dawn of time. but we know from archeological evidence that the Jewish religion is not as old as the human race. cave men were not Jews.


wtf are you talking about? it isnt retconned at all. it openly says abraham and his ancestors were pagan peoples.
TopicJudaism is the original. Christianity is the sequel. Islam is the reboot.
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 5:52:17 PM
#16
Zikten posted...
Judaism isn't even the original actually. ancient hebrews were pagans. over time, they evolved their religion during a cultural change, into what we now call Judiasm. they used to worship multiple gods. the name Israel comes from the fact that their chief god was named El. hence, "Land of El"


literally all of that is discussed at length in the Jewish old testament
TopicJudaism is the original. Christianity is the sequel. Islam is the reboot.
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 5:37:01 PM
#11
ThyCorndog posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
everyone agrees judaism is the original

a good portion of jews and non-jews agreed that christianity was the sequel

only muslims agree that islam is the reboot

pretty much no one agrees that the apocrypha is relevant

actually someone who doesn't follow any of those religions would agree with all of it too. it's how they came out throughout history. islam is based on judaism and christianity + regional pagan elements and you don't need to be a muslim to believe that


islam teaches that the old faiths got it wrong and that God revealed the truth to Muhammad. all according to Muhammad. you absolutely do need to be a Muslim to believe that.
TopicJudaism is the original. Christianity is the sequel. Islam is the reboot.
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 5:26:29 PM
#4
everyone agrees judaism is the original

a good portion of jews and non-jews agreed that christianity was the sequel

only muslims agree that islam is the reboot

pretty much no one agrees that the apocrypha is relevant
TopicToxic Masculinity is responsible for the two biggest Mass shootings in the US .
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 1:15:07 PM
#3
why are you using a tragedy to shitpost
TopicThis whole debt free thing is weird to me, lol.
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 1:06:24 PM
#15
mirage_004 posted...
Good for TC. I'll be paying debt for another 15 years. Actually, my debt will probably never stop as I plan on financing a new car or home at some point and won't have all of the cash up front. Debt is part of my cost of living. Now and forever. :(


stop financing stuff. buy a cheap car with cash.
TopicThis whole debt free thing is weird to me, lol.
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 12:18:13 PM
#2
nice! i'll be there soon, super excited
Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 12:10:18 PM
#44
josifrees posted...
Also can we have some examples of how white privilege advantages can be used to help the disadvantaged?

To put it in terms of the hamfisted analogy of the OP, in the grocery store of society what is on the white people shelves and how can white people help minorities gain permanent access to white people goods?


They won't outright say it now because it's not yet popular or safe enough to say it, but it's along the lines of what that BLM leader said in that article I linked - redistribution of wealth and ongoing reparations.
Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 12:09:04 PM
#43
Darkman124 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...

what?


i'd rather not make this a topic about whether men are raped/assaulted/harassed or not (they certainly are, and at nontrivial rates) but the largest source of male victimization is one that is largely separated from modern society (prisons) and tangential to the discussion of whether the typical man in society is in a position where he is relatively shielded from being a victim of sexual violence compared to the typical woman.

it's also tangential to the much more important and illustrative point that these men are in a position to reduce womens' victimization simply by being more present and vigilant in situations that a smaller subset of toxic men take advantage of. that this is analogous to what white people can do for minorities--simply be more vigilant and speak up when they see something they know is wrong--was the point of the post. privilege is a tool, it can simply be used as comfort by not having to deal with a shitty thing, or it can be used as a tool to reduce that shitty thing (which doesn't really reduce comfort, aside from having the occasional uncomfortable conversation).

there are toxic women who take advantage of men too, of course. and women could be leaning in and helping their male friends not be taken advantage of by those women in ways their male peers really couldn't. which is, again, tangential to the point since i was framing the idea specifically for white women who aren't sure they agree with the idea of white privilege.


38% of sexual assaults are against men. Trivializing their experiences by ignoring prison rape or waving it away is pretty terrible, since men get worse punishment for crimes than women. It seems to me that it'd make more sense to teach people to be a good person rather than butter it up behind rhetoric about white skin.

And I've already shared an example of a BLM leader demanding much more than white people just calling out injustice when they see it. You're trying to present a moderate approach even though the trend I see doesn't seem moderate.
Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 12:02:43 PM
#40
Asherlee10 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
the problem is that the left is being more and more radicalized into those insane points of view.


I'm not sure I follow you about what's insane about this notion in the OP?


i'm responding to claims like "No one is saying you are obligated to do anything of the sort. Not everyone is in a position to help."
Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 12:02:06 PM
#39
Darkman124 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
the problem is that the left is being more and more radicalized into those insane points of view


i don't think this is true at all, and i don't think any evidence has been presented that supports this view.


https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/
Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 12:01:42 PM
#36
Darkman124 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
anyone pretending that "white privilege" isn't a precursor to being asked and expected to do things if you're white is outright lying

https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/


the main thing asked of privileged people is 'be vigilant for shitheads' which i think is not a lot to request.

privilege is a tool. it can be used simply for comfort, or it can additionally be used to help protect those without it from assholes.

i won't comment on the link except to note that there are shitheads everywhere, including among those who think they're helping.


who are you to speak with regards to what is the "main thing" being asked of privileged people? i see a BLM leader in that link making ridiculous claims, and people online supporting those claims with all kinds of attempts at nuance and thinly veiled racism.

and if they are shitheads, why are they given a platform and why does it seem like a growing number of people agrees with them?
Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 12:00:01 PM
#34
the problem is that the left is being more and more radicalized into those insane points of view. you don't have to look far to find more people espousing the same ideology. it's no different than how the right is becoming more and more radicalized into their own brand of insane points of view.

pretending that it isn't a problem is being complicit in the growing hatred of white people.
Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 11:55:29 AM
#30
anyone pretending that "white privilege" isn't a precursor to being asked and expected to do things if you're white is outright lying

https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/
Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
FLUFFYGERM
09/13/17 11:34:43 AM
#22
Darkman124 posted...
when men recognize their privilege (to not be victims of sexual assault or sexual harassment)


what?
TopicBest Dark Souls cosplay ever
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 11:44:58 PM
#5
literally busting my ass laughing out loud rn
TopicI really wish I had faith in God or something...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 11:39:13 PM
#24
If you take a $100 bill and multiply its physical size by an order of one billion, it's still worth the value that was imputed to it. Regardless of how thick or large the paper is.

I don't understand how you can jump from "the universe is so big" to "therefore humans don't matter"

Analogy: At what size of treehouse or sandbox do we begin to conclude that we have no father and that we are meaningless? value and meaning don't depend on size or space. I'm agnostic, fyi. I just cringe when I see people make weak arguments and grand sweeping statements.

and what if one day the distances are going to be nothing to us? a few thousand years ago, traveling around the world was an immense challenge. yet now it's a trivial matter. we wouldn't look at the size of the earth and say that humans are so small compared with it that we're meaningless or worthless, would we?

and what if in a trillion years we're still around because of science and technology? we wouldn't say that the length of our existence somehow then made us meaningful once we've arbitrarily crossed X number of years of existence, would we?

Oh well.
TopicWhat do you like most about Japanese culture?
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 11:35:33 PM
#26
food, landscapes, women
TopicI really wish I had faith in God or something...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 11:27:11 PM
#22
Rhylos posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Rhylos posted...
I'm a nihilist and it sucks. There's nothing that'd convince me otherwise either.


so do you think you're eternal or something? what was out there before you were born? has to be something out there, no?


We are eternal. We're made of stardust that's existed since the dawn of time, and we'll continue to exist after death.

But I was referring more towards the religious aspect of convincing me. When you take in the entire scope of the universe and how much time has transpired, you'd never convince me that all of it was for us humans. The universe has existed for over 13.7 billion years; primitive humans who started using stone tools existed about 2.5 million years ago. Humans have existed for 0.00018% of all time, and religion says all of time is for us? No, that just sounds self centered and a way of convincing ourselves we matter.


why does length of time or the physical size of the universe determine importance, though? the universe being old or large does not determine whether or not humans matter.

that's always been a bad argument. i cringe when people say "wow look how small the earth is, it proves we're insignificant" or variants of that. it's just a sloppy argument based on weak logic.

and i'm not just talking about stardust btw. what about before the universe existed in any capacity? surely there's more to existence than just our individual consciousness. you said you're a nihilist, so i'm trying to understand how you rationalize that point of view.
TopicI really wish I had faith in God or something...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 11:21:19 PM
#20
it's always entertaining when people make these grand sweeping claims about how all religion is man-made in order to control others, how god would not be something we can understand or visualize, etc. it's like, how the hell do you know any of that? lol
TopicI really wish I had faith in God or something...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 10:28:00 PM
#10
Rhylos posted...
I'm a nihilist and it sucks. There's nothing that'd convince me otherwise either.


so do you think you're eternal or something? what was out there before you were born? has to be something out there, no?
TopicOMG, the chick on TV is so hawt!!!
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 10:17:32 PM
#2
is it that one latina news weatherlady that has an unbelievable body? the one that turns sideways every time she's telling us the weather
TopicMercedes-Benz to go all-in on electric vehicles by 2022. No more gas cars.
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 9:02:24 PM
#4
oh yeah, should've said no more gas-only cars
TopicMercedes-Benz to go all-in on electric vehicles by 2022. No more gas cars.
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 9:00:21 PM
#1
Topicin 2001 it cost $100 million to sequence someone's genome
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 8:34:11 PM
#1
less than 20 years later, the cost of that is less than $1,000 and still dropping fast

that's insane
TopicA 2 bedroom is $600. Meanwhile minimum wage is still $8.90 . . .
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 8:23:12 PM
#2
get a room mate

drops your rent to $300
TopicThe story of Moses parting the sea was BS. It was similar to what Irma did...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 6:06:41 PM
#130
what a boneheaded individual
TopicCasual racism from black rappers
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 5:16:56 PM
#5
smh. and little kids listen to that stuff.
TopicThe story of Moses parting the sea was BS. It was similar to what Irma did...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 5:13:17 PM
#125
it literally says what the symbolic gesture was for

just like it literally says who split the sea
TopicThe story of Moses parting the sea was BS. It was similar to what Irma did...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 5:08:32 PM
#123
that was already explained to you more than once

it had absolutely nothing to do with whether or not moses split the sea himself
TopicWhite rappers can't say the N word. Straight rappers can say the F word
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 4:59:11 PM
#7
nativengine posted...
Eminem has said both


he said th n word?
TopicThe story of Moses parting the sea was BS. It was similar to what Irma did...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 4:51:56 PM
#120
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
the stretching of the hand was to prove to people watching that moses had the ear of god on command and that those phenomena were not coincidence.

nowhere does it say moses made the sea split. it literally says god did it.



"Then the LORD said to Moses, "Stretch out your hand over the sea so that the waters may come back over the Egyptians, over their chariots and their horsemen."

"Stretch out your hand over the sea so that "

"so that"

"so that" means that God said that Moses had to put his hand out for it to happen.


It literally says the Lord said to stretch out his hand SO THAT (insert effect here).


*sigh*

ok let's try one last time. this time ill even bold who split the sea so that you can see.

"Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD swept the sea back by a strong east wind all night and turned the sea into dry land, so the waters were divided"
TopicAnyone else notice how Christians want to enjoy being a protected class...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 4:09:03 PM
#22
jayj420 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
if this was a generalization about muslims the topic wouldve been deleted by now

I mean a lot of those fundamentalist Muslims have similar issues with hating things that have been repressed about themselves. These vicious circles of hate tend to work that way.


how come you qualified your view on Muslims by saying "a lot of" but generalized about all Christians in your OP? is it because youre a hateful bigot?
TopicThe story of Moses parting the sea was BS. It was similar to what Irma did...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 4:05:07 PM
#108
the stretching of the hand was to prove to people watching that moses had the ear of god on command and that those phenomena were not coincidence.

nowhere does it say moses made the sea split. it literally says god did it.
TopicAnyone else notice how Christians want to enjoy being a protected class...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 4:01:20 PM
#16
if this was a generalization about muslims the topic wouldve been deleted by now
TopicThe story of Moses parting the sea was BS. It was similar to what Irma did...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 3:58:46 PM
#104
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
So why mention Moses' hand for no reason? Part of reading comprehension is understanding why all the words are there, not just some of them.



You are selectively reading, but your interpretation disregards the majority of the relevant sentence and its meaning.


it literally says a deity split the sea. regardless of moses gestures or comments, it credits the deity. not moses.
TopicThe story of Moses parting the sea was BS. It was similar to what Irma did...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 3:54:30 PM
#99
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
. Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD swept the sea
"

So why mention Moses' hand for no reason? Part of reading comprehension is understanding why all the words are there, not just some of them. They are clearly insinuating that Moses had some sort of divine power to communicate with God or else the statement about the hand would be pointless.


it literally says a deity did the splitting of the sea, not moses.
TopicThe story of Moses parting the sea was BS. It was similar to what Irma did...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 3:53:08 PM
#98
ThyCorndog posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
GOATTHlEF posted...
Egypt didn't use slave labor to build the pyramids.


I think that you're right. I feel like I saw a documentary that suggested that those Jews were of many tribes that were known for contract labor (paid labor) and the wages weren't paid right or at all and the left.


is there actually evidence for this or is it just a case of the victors writing history? would egypt really admit or maintain that they used slaves to build their prized landmarks?


There is basically no evidence that Jews ever lived in Egypt during those times and no evidence that Exodus ever happened.

There is literally more evidence that the Iliad and the Odyssey are real than Exodus.

yeah and it was israeli archaeologists that looked into it and concluded there's no real historicity behind the exodus. it's really only religious literalists that still think it happened after looking at the facts. it's about as real as adam and eve


source?
TopicThe story of Moses parting the sea was BS. It was similar to what Irma did...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 3:29:03 PM
#78
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
KogaSteelfang posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
KogaSteelfang posted...
"The story of Moses parting the Red Sea is BS, science now says it's actually possible."
The logic doesn't exactly flow.



Bad paraphrasing is bad. Science doesn't say people can fucking split seas. It says that there is a reason they could have thought that because the conditions to leave the sea dry temporarily are not too unrealistic.

The science only indicates that it's an actual possibility that it opened a path when they needed one. Miracle or not, thus only adds validity to the claim that it might've actually happened. Which is kind of the opposite of it being BS.



It doesn't add validity to a human parting a sea at all...


but the bible doesn't say that a human split the sea, does it



"So it came between the camp of Egypt and the camp of Israel; and there was the cloud along with the darkness, yet it gave light at night (literally describing lightning from a storm). Thus the one did not come near the other all night. Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD swept the sea back by a strong east wind all night and turned the sea into dry land, so the waters were divided. The sons of Israel went through the midst of the sea on the dry land, and the waters were like a wall to them on their right hand and on their left.…"

It definitely implies that Moses had a role in it by mentioning his hand and the LORD (as if he were communicating with the Lord is what it is implying) but it definitely describes the phenemenon I have alleged.


it literally says the LORD did it. are you capable of basic reading comprehension my friend
TopicConfirmed: Trump Sugar Baby goes from Interim to Perm.Communications Director.
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 3:24:24 PM
#3
if hillary made this move i bet you'd praise the diversity and inclusion of having a woman in that role
TopicThe story of Moses parting the sea was BS. It was similar to what Irma did...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 3:22:53 PM
#74
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
KogaSteelfang posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
KogaSteelfang posted...
"The story of Moses parting the Red Sea is BS, science now says it's actually possible."
The logic doesn't exactly flow.



Bad paraphrasing is bad. Science doesn't say people can fucking split seas. It says that there is a reason they could have thought that because the conditions to leave the sea dry temporarily are not too unrealistic.

The science only indicates that it's an actual possibility that it opened a path when they needed one. Miracle or not, thus only adds validity to the claim that it might've actually happened. Which is kind of the opposite of it being BS.



It doesn't add validity to a human parting a sea at all...


but the bible doesn't say that a human split the sea, does it
TopicThe story of Moses parting the sea was BS. It was similar to what Irma did...
FLUFFYGERM
09/12/17 3:21:10 PM
#72
Zikten posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Zikten posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Zikten posted...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-evidence-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids/


is there real evidence besides "Egypt said so"

because this is as useless as Japan's comments on the Rape of Nanking


it makes logical sense. the pyramids were the sacred tombs of people they believed were living gods. they wouldn't want to let a lowly slave have the honor of even touching them


oh okay so basically there is no real evidence besides "it makes logical sense" and "Egypt said so"

am i getting that right

they have records written down of wages paid to the workers. we know they weren't slaves


they wouldn't have records of unpaid wages if they used slaves, broseph. how do we know those wages aren't for the foremen who did the whipping whenever slaves didn't work fast enough?

i think you're more trying to give egypt the benefit of the doubt because it's a notch against the biblical narrative, rather than because it makes sense. ancient civilizations, egypt included, were barbaric and employed slave labor all the time. it's not unreasonable to say that they did it for the huge tasks of building these pyramids.
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