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TopicDo you like Doug Walker the Nostalgia Critic?
Doe
04/13/21 8:40:50 PM
#6
TopicDo you like Doug Walker the Nostalgia Critic?
Doe
04/13/21 8:40:23 PM
#5
I like that he exists in an ironic sense. He's a menace to critique with no self awareness.

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TopicStar Trek / The Onion fans: what is the joke of this cartoon?
Doe
04/13/21 8:38:06 PM
#1
TopicSo does Disney+ have Family Guy and The Cleveland Show uncensored?
Doe
04/13/21 8:21:33 PM
#3
On Hulu they show the gore but censor the f-word

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TopicNFL board is just upset over being moderated.
Doe
04/13/21 8:15:45 PM
#86
Error really isn't that mad. It's a justified response for being called a pedo groomer. CE are overreacting.

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Topic"Want a tip? Get a real job! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
Doe
04/13/21 5:30:01 PM
#2
Such a comment is justification for class war.

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Topic"Yeah" = "Yes (informal)"
Doe
04/13/21 5:28:34 PM
#1
TopicPresident Biden's response to the cops killing Daunte Wright
Doe
04/13/21 5:14:15 PM
#5
Instead of throwing bricks into small businesses they should be thrown into the statehouse.

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TopicAloy coming to fortnite
Doe
04/13/21 5:06:48 PM
#12
When are we getting Peter GriffIn?

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TopicI enjoy Starbucks coffee.
Doe
04/13/21 3:57:39 PM
#1
TopicSocial media be like: *rots your brain*
Doe
04/13/21 2:14:37 PM
#1
TopicNCAA pulls events from all stats with Anti-Trans bills.
Doe
04/13/21 2:07:34 PM
#23
This seems surprising. I'm shocked companies would choose social issues over money?

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TopicI'm playing Control, I like it
Doe
04/13/21 2:03:35 PM
#12
I didn't like it. It's great looking graphically, that's my best praise. I'm an old veteran of SCP so the lore wasn't too interesting or original to me. The gameplay is not fun. It doesn't feel particularly more advanced than Alan Wake. It's not satisfying for your main gun to be a peashooter, and a force push doesn't make up for it. The first boss in the game was fucking dreadful.

I got a headache when I played it. I think part of that is the horrible terrible map layout and navigation.

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TopicSo.... who actually lives in those luxury apartments?
Doe
04/13/21 1:49:05 PM
#5
TopicIs it better to get the Pfizer or Moderna shot?
Doe
04/13/21 1:38:08 PM
#12
TopicStar Trek TNG watchthread Part 2 (spoilers)
Doe
04/13/21 1:32:13 PM
#52
what the hell. They did Wesley Crusher really dirty.

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TopicPeople in my area are mad some ice cream factory is starting people at $16-$17hr
Doe
04/13/21 3:09:04 AM
#10
Commodity fetishism. Our culture asks us to care more about consuming more goods at lower prices than ensuring the producers of those goods have a comfortable life.

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TopicChina says U.S. has caused humanitarian disasters through military interventions
Doe
04/13/21 2:35:15 AM
#161
Questionmarktarius posted...
The closest the US has is arguably Harry Truman.
For what, the atom bombs? They were used during a defensive war against military production targets. Going by the same logic as that infographic, it would be Abraham Lincoln for waging civil war and allowing tactics like the March to the Sea.

By the way, the url "bit.ly/c394Lo" appears to go to a dead video link on the website "pornizer".

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TopicStar Trek TNG watchthread Part 2 (spoilers)
Doe
04/13/21 1:02:13 AM
#51
Worf just dropped some misogynist and non-binary-phobic remarks

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Topicneko.
Doe
04/12/21 11:22:12 PM
#16
TopicStar Trek TNG watchthread Part 2 (spoilers)
Doe
04/12/21 11:03:51 PM
#49
I really thought they killed off Worf for a bit there. I was really upset.

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 10:38:27 PM
#284
omniryu posted...
Oh you mean if I hosted a website the have ad revenue and I have tons of roms on my website making a living off of it? I am not stealing?
Nope

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TopicStar Trek TNG watchthread Part 2 (spoilers)
Doe
04/12/21 10:37:34 PM
#48
This episode where Worf wants to commit suicide. He goes to Riker for it. Picard tells Riker "Klingons choose their friends with the utmost care."

Has Riker and Worf ever actually had a hangout episode?

Maybe the logic is because Riker is the main guy sorting battle tactics while Worf fires the guns?

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TopicStar Trek TNG watchthread Part 2 (spoilers)
Doe
04/12/21 9:34:15 PM
#47
Damn, episode ends on Riker's "I fucked up" face

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TopicStar Trek TNG watchthread Part 2 (spoilers)
Doe
04/12/21 9:23:32 PM
#46
Riker is fucking Ro moments after discovering a book with "To Will with all my love, from Deanna" in the cover

this may be his lowest moment on the show

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 7:50:24 PM
#265
^Funny that someone made that seething wojak when pirates already take what they want happily. It's the anti-pirates that seethe

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TopicNew Age of Empires IV gameplay trailer
Doe
04/12/21 6:50:08 PM
#12
CyricZ posted...
Doesn't seem like it, but AOE3 is getting an update later this year apparently, adding the US as a civilization.

EDIT: Looked into more detail and Chinese will have firelances and rocketry. Obviously not the same, but it looks like they're really going for making each civ very distinct compared to AOE2.
They show muskets and cannons like 4-5 minutes into the video...?

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TopicI don't understand how some people pass their classes
Doe
04/12/21 6:48:09 PM
#17
I was a superstar in high school and also shined pretty bright in my freshman year of college. This year has been a disaster. I guess because of covid and isolation from classrooms. makes classes so immaterial and meaningless. Feels like I can see my future alienation from my labor.

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TopicSome days I feel like I could use a stimulant.
Doe
04/12/21 6:43:03 PM
#3
TopicSome days I feel like I could use a stimulant.
Doe
04/12/21 6:25:31 PM
#1
I stay in bed forever. Caffeine doesn't change it

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TopicWhat is the single most liberal country on Earth?
Doe
04/12/21 6:05:26 PM
#2
Liberal as in capitalist, socially left, or economically left? The word doesn't mean the same thing everywhere.

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TopicAsk me for wisdom, and you shall receive.
Doe
04/12/21 5:41:47 PM
#4
How do we overthrow capitalist imperialism?

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TopicAre you aware of sublime objects of ideology?
Doe
04/12/21 5:17:26 PM
#1
TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 4:52:49 PM
#131
tote_all posted...
The same mind that things something isn't immoral solely because it is different from theft.
The initial claim by anti-pirates is typically that piracy is wrong because it's theft. The assertion of wrongness comes those opposed to it, not the pro-pirates trying to revel in evil or something.
It's already been refuted that piracy is the theft of an object.
Its now on you to show that piracy is immoral for some other reason.

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 4:51:00 PM
#126
tote_all posted...
So... if the ride isn't full, it's okay to sneak in for free in your mind?
No, the owner can always kick you out because land is a quantifiable, physical, limited thing. It has nothing to do with whether you're enjoying the exhibit. You might not even know it's a museum, you just wandered in drunk looking for a bathroom, the owner can still ask you to leave even if you're not taking in the galleries and exhibits.

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 4:34:06 PM
#107
Guide posted...
This topic is so fucking tired.

The intent of production is often income.
If you do not contribute income, you are reducing projected value.

I won't say this is always immoral, but I can give an example that most would agree is immoral: indie devs. Like, real indie devs, starting from scratch, no starting capital. Paying for dev costs out of pocket, inflicting crunch upon themselves, living on cup ramen, with the intent of making money off of the product they create.

The product has projected value to them. They put real, non-duplicable resources, as in time and effort, into the product.
There is no situation where you can reduce somebody's "projected income" except by not being part of the demographic expected to buy the product. The task of projecting how many sales a game might get is the burden of the creator, not consumers. Someone else laboring unilaterally without your input cannot, under any circumstance, compel you to later compensate them.

I've said in this topic before: refusing to treat IP law as a sacred foundation of society may weaken the feasibility of selling digital commodities, but it is not worth twisting reality to suit the needs of commodity consumption.

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 4:21:09 PM
#78
Giant_Aspirin posted...
lending my physical copy of a game to friends and family = not making a copy = not stealing
So if I buy a copy of a book from an author, then 1 by 1 I lend it to every other literate person on Earth, it's no problem. But if I go Monk mode and copy the book into a second book, I have now stolen?

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 4:18:20 PM
#71
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Books and software both require effort to make. Someone has to be smart enough or talented enough to know how to make them, then spend years making them. Because of the effort involved, we consider the output of this effort "Intellectual Property". Intellectual Property is a concept modern societies use in order to encourage the production of non-physical commodities like software, designs, inventions, novels, movies, ect. by allowing the owner of the Intellectual Property to profit from them at their sole discretion.
>conflating morals with economic ethics


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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 4:12:14 PM
#62
Giant_Aspirin posted...
no. but you did steal their IP by gaining access to it without their permission.

yes, and copyright is a form of IP.

https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html

you're violating their copyright by illegally copying their works without their permission.
Reminder from the OP: laws as written are not a substitute for moral justification. How the government defines copyright or IP is irrelevant to whether pirating a game is morally wrong.

Giant_Aspirin posted...
what about situations where the writer is given performance based compensation? ie bonus / etc paid out based on # of copies sold?

Doe posted...
Of course you'll say "but that makes selling digital goods as commodities unfeasible." And that's true, but it's irrelevant. There are alternative ways to fund artistic production, like public arts funding or kickstarters.



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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 4:08:52 PM
#56
Giant_Aspirin posted...
it's taking away a potential customer because you just acquired a copy for free without consent from the owner.

would you sneak into a theme park or a museum and justify that as not being theft since you didn't actually "take" anyone's ticket away?
Potential sales don't exist. There are just sales. If I was going to go to your museum but a billboard for a theme park caught my eye and I went there instead, should the museum be able to sue the theme park for damages? Obviously not.

You have the right to remove someone from your land if you don't want them there. That extends to people not paying to access your private property. Land is a limited physical quantity and someone taking up space in an exhibit or ride is denying that space to other people and the property owner.

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 3:59:57 PM
#46
Pogo_Marimo posted...
And, for the utter love of all things holy, since people on this board don't understand how analogies fucking work, let me clarify: All that changes when you switch the selling of stolen labor versus the consuming of stolen labor is the scale. You are not allowed to take the results of someone else's labor without permission even if it is not depriving them of a physical object.
That's IP theft, where you falsely claim to be the creator of a work.
Piracy is when that writer sells a word document of his book, and then the purchaser leaves the word doc they purchased somewhere where others can access it. In that scenario, the writer has already been compensated.

Of course you'll say "but that makes selling digital goods as commodities unfeasible." And that's true, but it's irrelevant. There are alternative ways to fund artistic production, like public arts funding or kickstarters.

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 3:49:50 PM
#31
Tenlaar posted...
Bullshit argument that doesn't apply in any other regard. "He wouldn't have bought a car anyway" doesn't make stealing a car okay.
If I don't have the money to buy your car, but I have a button that spontaneously generates a replica of your car while leaving your actual car perfectly in tact, what harm has been done to you?

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 3:47:27 PM
#24
Giant_Aspirin posted...
the key that decimates your "theft of property" argument is the concept of "intellectual property". even though physical objects are not being transferred from one owner to another, theft is still going on because you're giving yourself access to something the owner hasn't agreed to.
How is downloading a game infringing on the maker's "intellectual property?"

Am I infringing their intellectual property if I play on a friend's computer, or use their account?

Am I infringing if I watch an uncommentated playthrough of a game? What if it's a visual novel?

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 3:42:12 PM
#21
Giant_Aspirin posted...
the only arguments i see center around "but its copying so it isnt theft"

happy?
No, because you keep implying that said argument is weak without actually giving any counter. That argument is valid.

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 3:38:32 PM
#16
Giant_Aspirin posted...
golly gee what do ya know:
WiThOuT DoInG tHiS, clarify your position.

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 3:36:17 PM
#9
Gobstoppers12 posted...
You're literally stealing somebody else's hard work and refusing to pay them their asking price.


How is copying an arrangement of data, stealing? Show me the moral imperative that I should pay someone's asking price before doing so.

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TopicI have never seen a good argument for why "piracy" is immoral.
Doe
04/12/21 3:30:16 PM
#1
Protip: laws don't determine morality. It is trivially true that piracy is illegal (in the US). That says nothing about whether piracy is somehow "wrong."

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TopicStar Trek TNG watchthread Part 2 (spoilers)
Doe
04/12/21 2:45:07 PM
#45
Riker: "You [Picard] seem to be the leader."
Worf: "Let's not jump to conclusions. I am decorated as well."

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