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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
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A friend from work died from Covid yesterday. He about a week before his death lamented not getting vaccinated, swore off politics which he said caused him not to get vaccinated, and pledged to get vaccinated and to tell everyone else to get vaccinated if he made it through. I feel like shit for multiple reasons regarding it, but mostly because I almost had him convinced to get vaccinated before others at work cemented his choice against it based on political lines.

His family ransacked his house and stole his possessions within an hour of his death. Disgusts me.

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Ulti, why?

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Looks like the OSHA vaccine mandate is dead.

https://time.com/6120107/biden-osha-vaccine-mandate-lottery/

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https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/employers-face-whipsaw-from-shifting-stays-on-osha-vaccine-rule

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/11/04/business/biden-vaccine-mandate-osha.amp.html

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Leafeon13N posted...

None of the legal threats have any water. The vaccine mandate will happen, though probably not til after the holidays.

Then it doesn't matter. They are gonna take 10 to 12 weeks to enforce it. So if it's after the holidays it literally won't matter until basically April or may

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I don't think this vaccine mandate is coming out at this point. Too much lobbying against it and legal threats.

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
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When is the osha mandate coming out

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
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When is this Osha Vaccine Mandate finally going to be unveiled and go into effect. = /

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

I thought you could as long as it hasn't been posted in within the past hour, so by posting in it to say you were closing it you removed the option.
And by my explaining the rules to you the option is removed again for the next hour.
And if you respond to me to acknowledge what i said...

Interesting

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I didn't really do more than skim most of the topic, but a lot of the posts seemed to be trying to beam yourself up for good play in what ended up being a horrendous loss for your team.

Whether that is an accurate summation of the game or not, I don't know. Just seems to be basically the entire flow of this topic.

Hope you had fun playing with them, buddy. Better luck next time on lynching the scummies! = )

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Not legal thanks to the precedent of allowing companies to have the rights of a person under the 14th amendment.

It's gonna be done through OSHA. Who already does fine companies for not adhering to safety standards.

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https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1436051653803794432
About time. Let's go.

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Samurai7 posted...

This is a really long post arguing a point I've never made or subscribed to. I made no statement about whether a person with covid should get a bed based on vaccination. The only argument I made is that trying to make narcan and vaccination analogous was pretty ridiculous. If you made this post for Raiden that's fine. The only thing I found annoying was creating false equivalenci.

It is for Raiden's take, and it is not a false equivalency. Defend your actual stances with substance and stop trying to debase the questioning and counter argument by trying to debase the questioning and arguing rather than supporting your own opinion.

It is hard to say you support a humans basic rights. It is hard to say you support humanity. It is hard to say you are against the death penalty. It is hard to say you are for rehabilitation. When your stance is essentially, that 40% of Americans if sick and need hospitalization to survive should be given a death sentence by being refused medical help, at odds with the base Hippocratic Oath every doctor is sworn to.

We can spend 20 posts calling me dumb and saying the equivalency is false or there is no comparison to try and get out of defending that take, but the point stands that the values espoused in many arguments evaporated entirely for this stance.

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Samurai7 posted...

Ok. But every moral decision is an imaginary line. So your focus on making it sound like his imaginary line is arbitrary is disingenuous.

It sounds politically motivated and barbaric imo. About 40% of America is not vaccinated. Saying if they are sick and need hospital assistance they should be denied a bed seems extremely messed up to me. I can't think of many scenarios where I am thinking that I would be okay with fellow Americans being offed for making a decision that is completely their own to make legally. How much are these people truly denying science and actually just following people they trust's opinions? The issue has become political when it shouldn't have. Just like the big influx on denying anti-vaxxers tests and hospital beds, initially sprung up in regards to what to do if LACKING beds and having to choose one or the other based on which is more likely to survive, came from the Candace Owens situation where she was denied a covid test by a facility SUPPOSEDLY because she was anti-vaccination... which let Candace then use that to spring board to more people her ideas anyways.

It just seems anti-american, anti-human life, and barbaric and disgusting to me. Even ResetERA who regularly is cheering on anti-vaxxers of other parties getting covid and/or dying, generally has people being like wait a minute... denying beds to people who are sick who didn't get vaccinated is kind of inhumane. And, they are hella extremist. It's such a far and wide take.

I feel like the teams people play in this has gotten sick at some point. Look at sorryantivaxxer.com where people who were anti-vaccination have their social media posts displayed when they die from the disease. At some point, it isn't hoping that they will come around and get vaccinated but actually relishing in their suffering for being poorly directed to the right choice and/or our governments lack of teeth to get the vaccine mandated as it needs to be.

And, figuring the African-American population is by far the least vaccinated group in America... I think if a Republican said this in return, many of you with that info might even say that call is racist in reverse. But, I mean, I dunno. I am strongly strongly strongly pro-vaccines. But, I am hella not fuck them I hope they die status.

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https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographics-trends

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Samurai7 posted...

Someone who is in jail for murder also made the wrong choice. What is this terrible equivalency thing you're doing? It makes it seem like you're really going through mental gymnastics. Not all wrong choices are the same degree of wrong. He gave a specific choice. You just can't equate that to any other wrong choice you want.

"He just stole a piece of gum. I think that should be a fine."

"OH so you think someone who touches a little kid should also get a fine? He also just made a poor choice! "

Herpa derp

I don't mind his position. I asked if his position was consistent with another controversial topic or if he drew an imaginary line where he decides human lives matter or not.

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Samurai7 posted...

No. He said anyone who denied science and the vaccine shouldn't get a hospital bed.

So made a wrong choice in life. Yeah.

How would you even be able to differentiate who was a denier and who didn't get it for another reason? Check their social media lol?

Hold on! Hold on! Hold on! Pull up this guy's Facebook first and parse their posts!

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Samurai7 posted...

I actually don't really have an opinion narcan. But equating the two seems really silly when there is obvious differences that fundamentally change how they affect others and not just the individual. Some one on drugs could kill those around them just like someone who gets a DUI could've caused a car accident that kills innocents. Or an alcoholic is more likely to abuse their domestic partner. But it isn't inherently part of taking the drug or drinking. They could also OD home alone doing nothing. It is impossible for someone not vaccinated to never be in a situation where they potentially contribute to the crisis. Unless I suppose the unvaccinated person never sees another living soul for the rest of their life

Someone said they didn't think someone whose life could be lost should be given treatment if they needed it because they did not make the right choice in life. I asked if that applied to also overdosing which is also a controversial topic.

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Samurai7 posted...

Regardless of accidental or intentional, someone ODing isn't contagious. Being unvaccinated allows more spread of a contagious disease. ODing usually only harms yourself. Being unvaccinated by its very nature harms society.

Someone could OD and wipe out a family of 4 while a person could get covid and spread to no one. I mean, again, it just comes down to should a person be saved if they make a bad decision. It's how you value life in general. If you have an arbitrary imaginary line here then, you likely don't have the values you espouse generally. I, personally, am not for unlimited use of Narcan on ODs myself.

I, however, was seeing if he had contradictory values in or was consistent with what he thought. He doesn't appear to be.

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RaidenGarai posted...

Shooting heroin is intentional, yes, but the overdose is not. Nobody says Im going to make sure I overdose this time!

Way to move the goalposts to avoid admitting that youre wrong. You arent worth my time.

Nobody says I am going to need medical attention for Covid. You are trying to move your nonsense around to act right.

It's literally this simple. Does someone deserve medical assistance if they made a bad decision? Yes or no? It doesn't matter if that decision was shooting heroin to the point of overdose, having serious symptoms from a virus you didn't get vaccinated from, getting lung cancer from smoking, etc etc ad nauseum.

You are making an arbitrary bullshit imaginary line to justify which human lives matter.

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RaidenGarai posted...

Overdoses tend to be accidental, not intentional. Choosing not to get a safe and effective vaccine isnt an accident, its stupid and putting everybody else at risk.

Thats why I dont consider them to be the same. Is that better, or is this still too hard for you to understand?

Shooting heroin tends to be intentional, not accidental. Not getting a vaccine tends to be intentional, not accidental.

Overdosing and needing narcan tends to be accidental, not intentional. Getting sick to the point of needing the ICU from Covid tends to be accidental, not intentional.

Keep digging your hole bigger and bigger and acting like others are dumb because you want to make imaginary lines where human lives matter.


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RaidenGarai posted...

Apples to Oranges, at least in my eyes. Nice try though.

It's just funny how people make arbitrary lines. How it is a question of compassion, human decency, and valuing a life in one scenario, but not in another area when it comes to human life. So many people continue to act contradictory in their actual values.

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Samurai7 posted...

People who od aren't inherently a risk to others vaccine refusal is

Doesn't even make sense.

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RaidenGarai posted...

Anybody who denies science and/or the vaccine without a legitimate medical excuse shouldnt be allowed to take up a hospital bed. They should have to seek medical care from the Facebook and Twitter comments sections.

Do you believe people who Overdose should be given narcan?

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Nanis23 posted...

So a friend of mine, who called COVID "just a flu", rejected quarntine and decided to not get vaccinated is being hospitalized for over a week now
And his father, who fought covid for 3 weeks now, just died this morning
And his son doesn't know about it as he is still Anesthetized (is this the word? I used Google translate) and can't attend the funeral because..well...he is still hospitalized

What a fucking disaster and maybe it could have been avoid if it wasn't for all those fucking idiots spouting fake news and conspiracies all over the Internet
People die because of this bullshit and I am mad about this

Social media was a mistake. Where people in basements were given as much legitimacy as actual news outlets.

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Ulti, you okay, bro?

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Nobody cares why you blocked or he blocked you. We are here to discuss the pandemic.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

A scientist for Pfizer just admitted that the vaccine lowers immunity, which means boosters are required. It doesn't even take being that much of a cynic to figure out what's going on there when they stand to make tens of billions of dollars.

Not what was released.

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Sinema already said that she is fine with the reconciliation bill, as long as they drop the 3.5T price.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

https://youtu.be/_9KnhUu7Ba4

Masks dont work. End of story.

He contradicts himself at one point and also uses true but misleading information at another point.

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