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Sayoria posted...

Yes. For safety and respect of the other person as well.

<u>If you tell and they stay</u>, the fear of it all is gone and the trans person can be who they are without worrying of being "caught." There would be no concern about whether they'd love you if you came out, and they'd know you are incapable of children from the get-go.

<u>If you tell and they don't stay</u>, the trans person dodged a bullet.

<u>If you don't tell and they stay</u>, you live in secrecy every day of your life worried about every little giveaway to your identity. You trap yourself to someone who in private, might physically harm you or even kill you upon finding out. While the "gay panic" defense is bullshit, people who won't take it will WILL attempt to murder a trans person, and this is not a risk worth taking.

<u>If you don't tell and they don't stay</u>, then you again, dodged a bullet.

All in all, it's far better telling anyone you plan to date. Don't have to tell friends, but a lover will find out eventually.

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coh posted...

Well that's vague.

It takes social interaction
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When you don't do it in a creepy way
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Zikten posted...

Apparently anti semitism is on the rise in nyc for some reason

Yeah, and in neighboring cities like Jersey City as well. There was a shootout at a kosher deli a few weeks ago.

It's sick.
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There's been a growing amount of antisemitism in this country and as a jew it's attacks like this that make me afraid to live in it.

Sad that this happened. RIP to all the victims and fuck the antisemites who murdered them.
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Musourenka posted...

The same reason people typically don't (as an example) unload all their emotional baggage in the first few dates. On the initial date, that level of trust isn't there.

Bruh

Wouldn't you rather they accept you for who you are?

Why the fuck would you waste time with somebody when there's a possibility they won't go out with you off the bat because you're trans? Why would you waste their time?
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Sayoria posted...

Yes. For safety and respect of the other person as well.

<u>If you tell and they stay</u>, the fear of it all is gone and the trans person can be who they are without worrying of being "caught." There would be no concern about whether they'd love you if you came out, and they'd know you are incapable of children from the get-go.

<u>If you tell and they don't stay</u>, the trans person dodged a bullet.

<u>If you don't tell and they stay</u>, you live in secrecy every day of your life worried about every little giveaway to your identity. You trap yourself to someone who in private, might physically harm you or even kill you upon finding out. While the "gay panic" defense is bullshit, people who won't take it will WILL attempt to murder a trans person, and this is not a risk worth taking.

<u>If you don't tell and they don't stay</u>, then you again, dodged a bullet.

All in all, it's far better telling anyone you plan to date. Don't have to tell friends, but a lover will find out eventually.

This should be pinned to OP
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why are you eating out of the garbage TC
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Medussa posted...

uh, no. unless we're in base pi.

I meant to say the digits wouldn't be infinite
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Pi is only infinite digits because we work in base 10

If we worked in a different base it would be a whole number.
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this is a take
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2016 presidential election
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I literally gave up playing Pokemon Sun because of the endless dialogue and handholding. Think I finished the first "gym" and quit because the game was still in tutorial mode.
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Wewillrocku posted...

sweet, what brand

Unsalted.
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Irony posted...

Boiled?

No, unsalted.
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How is a gay person supposed to know the person they want to pursue is gay without someone letting them know they are gay?
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At some point in a long-term relationship, I agree that it will be brought up.

And if the person is afraid to bring it up out of fear of consequence, how the fuck is that any different later on?

The person literally is going to find out. Unless all they want is a failed relationship where the other person doesn't get to find out, then by all means let them do their thing.
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Musourenka posted...

Okay, what are the other concerns of the majority?

My main concern here is that it's not always safe for a transperson to out themselves.

Infinitely more safe to out themselves in public or over text than later on.

And again, how the FUCK are they going to have a relationship where the other person doesn't find out?
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Strider102 posted...

I mean i understand some trans individuals are afraid to be upfront about who they are, but assuming every cis individual is going to become a violent murderer is a little extreme imo.

But the thing is it's pointless to be afraid if you want to date somebody because eventually they are going to find out.
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BillORileyReid posted...

Naturally - as may be expected; of course.

Why are you taking it to mean something different?

Stop avoiding posts @hockeybub89

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This multi quote shit is broken as fuck
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hockeybub89 posted...

Yes I agree that neither cis or trans people should interact with anyone in such a way. You're catching on.

Musourenka posted...

Correct.

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I can only imagine every bar conversation. 100 people going to eachother "Hi I'm a cis and I only date cis people, what's your name?"
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Musourenka posted...

Correct.

lmao
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"A cisgendered person should let people know they only want to date cisgendered people up front"

"A trans person doesn't have to let a cis person know they are trans up front"

ok
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BillORileyReid posted...

Naturally - as may be expected; of course.

Why are you taking it to mean something different?

Stop avoiding posts @hockeybub89
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When you do it can you post it on your main?
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They should reboot the whole canon.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Why would a man attracted to men assume a man attracted to women wants to date them?

How would a gay man approach a gay man without someone letting the other person know they were gay?
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hockeybub89 posted...

"Natural" is an interesting choice of words in reference to trans people

Naturally - as may be expected; of course.

Why are you taking it to mean something different?
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Musourenka posted...

So transpeople should "naturally" assume that no one wants to date a transperson unless that person says so?

Do gay people naturally assume that a straight person wants to date them?
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Musourenka posted...

For those who are worried about accidentally dating a transperson, do you advertise that you're only interested in cis-males or cis-females before the date?

When somebody doesn't disclose it's naturally assumed the person is wanting to be with a cis person.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Who is saying trans people should never ever tell a person? Intimate details require intimacy.

Is sexual orientation not an intimate detail? If so, how do gay relationships happen without somebody disclosing?
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Stop being boring TC

Literally 500 average looking dudes are asking the same question
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Umbreon posted...

Well like most intimate details, you share the more delicate stuff later on.

People don't set up dates for intimate details. They set up dates for who they are attracted to.
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Irony posted...

I remember a judge saying he didn't

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Umbreon posted...

But yeah.

Ideally, a trans person would be open about being trans early on. In an ideal world, there would be no issue in doing so.

Problem is that trans people get a lot of shit for being trans. Being disowned by their family, being bullied, being attacked or killed...

Trans people don't hide their status for kicks. And you can't rely on the "Well don't date people who you think might be violent" because you just don't know how people will react.

Like how some people didn't know that their familys unconditional love came with an asterisk. Or how their year long friends weren't really friends. Terrible people can be great at pretending to be decent people until they decide not to.

It's a pretty difficult situation to be in.

This is all fine and dandy but how the fuck are they going to go the entire relationship without the other person finding out?

Like the "I want privacy" excuse doesn't even make any damn sense.
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hockeybub89 posted...

This is a sad attempt

This is a sad deflection
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Who the hell are you
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hockeybub89 posted...

How would a gay guy accidentally date a woman or accidentally get romantic with a straight man?

How would a gay guy know a guy was gay without that guy letting him know he was gay?
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Somebody I'm talking about posted itt
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BillORileyReid posted...

I'm curious how gay relationships happen when they're not supposed to let anyone know they were gay.

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gunplagirl posted...

Did I just have a stroke or are you being ironic

I'm not being ironic.

Post on your main.
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gunplagirl posted...

Let's see, low level account making 3 back to back posts about me, I've been warned for disruptive posting in my own AMA for less than that.

post on your main
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I'm curious how gay relationships happen when they're not supposed to let anyone know they were gay.
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Just an FYI

Like Fox News "liberals"
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also literally googling whatever the fuck you want and not even taking the time to send the proper link
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wtf does any of that have to do with anything
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darkprince45 posted...

Im making a report for home invasion. Basically, he broke through a sliding door. This old lady tactically placed herself against a door frame. He lunged at her and she shot

shouldnt you finish this before GameFAQs.com
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