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It makes sense not to cover relocation costs (while many WFH employees will want to move somewhere cheaper now that they no longer have to be near the office, that's still their choice and not something work is requiring them to do, so their employer shouldn't be on the hook for it) and to deduct home office expenses from other benefits, but it doesn't seem reasonable to do anything more than that to their pay/benefits. Provided their quality of work hasn't declined as a result of working from home, they should be getting the same total compensation for it.

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

Legally he probably doesn't retain ownership just because it was hurled at him, BUT she probably does lose ownership of the dog for mistreating it and at that point it might as well go to him if he is willing to take care of it.

Pretty much. Simply throwing it probably wasn't a formal transfer of ownership, but she shouldn't get to keep it and he has happily adopted it, so it seems to me like they just saved a shelter some work.

hungrymike posted...

I'm not saying she isn't racist, but saying someone is black doesn't make her so.

Using that as the basis for an inflammatory rant, however, does. That very clearly wasn't a neutral identification of his race with no negative connotation behind it.

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Quite a few bosses in PSO2 have breakables that expose weakpoints, sometimes with additional elements involved beyond just dealing damage to break them (like inflicting status ailments).

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I'm still annoyed that they took away the option to disable Cortana. They included it in the first place, meaning they obviously know that people are going to want to get rid of it, but then got butthurt that so many people turned it off and took that option away. Disabling it now means tearing out its still-beating heart in Regedit, which I happily do whenever I'm configuring a new Windows 10 machine.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

No (with maybe a handful of exceptions), but they are often reinforcing such ideas. But as was previously said this is a trope in fiction dating back decades (if not millenia). It's helpful in violent fiction to have an enemy you don't feel sympathy for, and something as simple as making them foreign helps with that.

Pretty much. That said, as much as you can find plenty of examples of games that do this, you can also find plenty of examples of games that pit the player against a corrupt American government/military, so it's certainly not an exclusive trend. It's just easier to get people to accept that somebody is the bad guy if they're different from them.

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streamofthesky posted...

I don't think updates improved it. The DLC gave a ton of bonus legendary cores and 10 of a consumable item that basically maxed out affinity of any blades assigned to that character instantly, that's about it, and you have to pay extra for that.

I believe there's some repeatable sidequest you can do for an item that gives a buttload of affinity, which was added as part of a free update. I could be wrong, though. The DLC stuff also helps, but I consider that a bonus, since most will be getting the season pass for Torna and the Challenge Arena and not the extra items.

streamofthesky posted...

merc missions in general

In general, I was okay with merc missions, with the very notable exception of trying to max out Ursula. She should really have been an automatic early-game blade, possibly even introduced as a way of introducing merc missions, since that would allow her to be gradually maxed out over the course of the game. She was one of the last blades I got, though, so there was a ton of waiting involved in completing her, which was miserable.

streamofthesky posted...

and farming for the blades to unlock as well.

Honestly, I expected that to be much worse than it actually was. Once I got late enough in the game to make filling out the roster a reasonable goal, it took very little time (like <30 minutes) to farm a full stack of Legendary Cores, and once I had them I only needed ~55 to get everyone. The process of opening them all sucked (I was very happy for the update that allowed the cinematic to be skipped), but the actual grind wasn't too bad.

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Zeus_LLC posted...

At any rate, by that token you can write off *any* response to any disaster as "well, any president would have done the same!"

Uhh, no. Only the really obvious ones. This is a president who put a climate change denier in charge of the EPA and a person who's spent much of her career systematically undermining public schools in charge of education, so perhaps it is surprising that he actually put an infectious disease specialist on a task force for handling an infectious disease, but that still doesn't mean it's anything other than a choice so obvious as to consider it the default and not something he actually had to think about.

Zeus_LLC posted...

Thus suggesting that a president didn't want to panic the general populace -- which was already panicking with disastrous results -- somehow means that Trump didn't regard it as a threat at all;

Please quote the part of my post (including relevant context) where I said that.

Zeus_LLC posted...

Funny how people can do good things and bad things instead of only good things or bad things. It's almost like people aren't just either good or bad.

So you should be criticizing Trump for recommending mask usage and business closures? Since "his" task force is an extension of his presidency, after all, and that means everything they do - whether you consider it good or bad - reflects on him.

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zebatov posted...

Its a decent home-building store.

I wonder if Rona's seen the same hit to their business that Corona beer has. It's obviously hard to tell against the background of the hit that every business has taken (though I believe hardware stores have been considered essential and stayed open, and a number of people have taken lockdown time as an opportunity to do some home improvement, so maybe they haven't had that), and the association is a lot less clear, but I would imagine anyone stupid enough to think that Corona beer actually has anything to do with Covid might think the same of Rona.

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Clench281 posted...

You don't think that putting a gag order on the task force, preventing them from sharing their expert opinions about certain topics related to covid, is an act of undermining?

You don't think that seeding doubt or mistrust or disregard for mask use in public, the top recommendation for curbing spread, is an act of undermining?

Bear in mind that Zeus seems to have settled on the belief that Trump has never called Covid a hoax or otherwise suggested it wasn't a real threat. He's a teensy bit delusional when it comes to these matters.

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streamofthesky posted...

Caters to the completionists and people who *like* grinding, without saddling other people w/ monotony.

Yep. It was pretty much ideal in that regard.

streamofthesky posted...

And affinity grinding isn't that bad (between party members; area affinity is basically "do a crap load of side quests and is). Just change up your teams so everyone's fighting together at some points, and when you talk to NPCs to receive / turn in side quests, make your lead character and other two pairings w/ low affinity to get some quick and easy gains just from the interaction. You might not max people out, but getting them up a few stages of affinity is quite easy, and all that's really needed.

You can manage it that way, but I've never been a huge fan of the whole "rotate people through your party to distribute resources evenly" thing, and as such, I spent most of the game with just Shulk/Reyn/Sharla before I started experimenting with other combinations for min/maxing purposes (also subbing Melia in for Shulk periodically because she was just fun), and by late game I did still have quite a bit of affinity grinding to do to get everyone maxed out for optimized chain attacks/gem crafting and to see Heart to Hearts. It went fairly quickly (there's a unique enemy that puts people to sleep if they attack him, letting the AI members attack him and waking them up builds affinity pretty efficiently), but it was a bit of a pain.

Now, it was nothing compared to grinding Blade affinity in Xenoblade 2. That was awful. My understanding is that later updates have improved it so it doesn't involve hours upon hours of buying and using vendor items, but when I did it, I was not a fan.

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Zeus_LLC posted...

...but now he's working on it with the task force.

Can you conceive of any scenario where the director - in good standing - of the national institute specializing in infectious diseases wouldn't be an automatic addition to a task force responsible for handling the most serious infectious disease outbreak in a century? Such that Trump could take any more credit than "I'm not literally brain dead" for the decision to include him? Trump should literally be more proud of himself for tying his shoes this morning than for that decision.

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KINDERFELD posted...

it doesn't require one cherrypicking certain studies to bolster one's viewpoint.

I would argue that "cherrypicking" studies based on how sound their methodologies are is exactly what any intellectually honest person should be doing in trying to inform themselves. If you aren't controlling for gameplay-based variables by ensuring the non-violent game has identical gameplay to the violent one (or worse, by not including a control game at all), your control is pretty meaningless.

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ClarkDuke posted...

how will zeus, defend this one, ok?

Evidently, rather poorly.

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Meanwhile, here I am playing Disgaea, which is basically nothing but grinding >.>

streamofthesky posted...

Xenoblade Chronicles 1 had the opposite problem of grind -- doing side content to much extent or exploring and fighting a lot meant a lot of people got overleveled stupidly easily. It was such a "happy problem" that they added an "expert mode" to the Definitive Edition to hold back sidequest xp and let you manually choose to apply it, in order to keep levels where they should be (by withholding it).

Eh, Xenoblade still has its fair share of grinding, just not for levels. Affinity takes some serious effort to level up, and if you want to fully deck your characters out in BiS gear and gems, there's definitely some grinding in there. Fortunately, grinding for drops is made a lot easier by the fact that drops are rolled as you open a chest, dropped chests don't despawn if you reload a save from right before opening it, and the enemies that drop them do respawn (albeit at a sub-100% rate). It makes for some very efficient save scumming, since you can save before opening the chest, reload if you don't get the desired item, then open two chests on the second attempt (and so on).

Now, none of that is actually necessary unless you're going after optional superbosses (and even then, it's far from mandatory, aside from being able to resist the automatic status effect the ultimate superboss applies on being hit (instant death)), but it's there for anyone that wants to delve into it.

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blu posted...

Are you implying believers in homeopathy are capable of receiving non-placebo benefits of homeopathic medicine?

But water has memory!

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Smarkil posted...

Did you ever consider that whoever got it was more happy to have it than you were bummed that it was stolen thereby increasing the happiness in the world?

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Zeus_LLC posted...

I'm sure one of the candidates will manage to squeeze out a victory.

... Yes, somebody is going to end up winning the contest that is defined as having a winner. Very astute prediction.

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Wanded posted...

excuse me for thinking the guy standing with the antifa blm crowd and shooting someone is antifa or blm.

That is indeed a mistake, one upon which the entire "BLM is a violent movement!" position is predicated. You would do well to be wary of making such assumptions in the future.

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Wanded posted...

so you're saying trumps plasma might actually be injected into liberals right now?

adjl posted...

plasma from people that have recovered from [Covid]

Trump hasn't recovered yet, so definitely not. Dunno how the ARC is doing it, but Canadian Blood Services require people to be symptom free for four weeks before donating because that maximizes the amount of antibodies in the plasma. That means Trump won't be eligible to donate convalescent plasma until at least a couple weeks after the election, and potentially more if he takes longer to recover. After that point, it will be possible, but only if he decides to donate (he doesn't exactly strike me as the type to do so except as a photo op), and even then he'd be such a tiny percentage of donors and his donation would be used to treat such a tiny percentage of patients that that likelihood isn't exactly significant to fixate on as an example of "owning the libs."

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KINDERFELD posted...

Endless research has been conducted with results that show this.

You get results like that when you measure aggressive behaviours before and after playing a violent video game and compare it to a control of not playing a violent video game. When you nuance the control a bit better, though, a lot of that association disappears. I saw one study that compared aggression after playing a shmup with violent imagery to aggression after playing an identical shmup with the enemies replaced with bunny rabbits and the bullets with carrots, and the difference became much smaller.

The point a lot of people ignore when looking at the impact of violent games on aggressive behaviours is the fact that most violent games are action-based (for obvious reasons), which means you get the adrenaline rush and/or frustration associated with solving challenges quickly. This is understandable, since most psychologists aren't interested in the nuances of game design and would rather plug in CoD or GTA and be done with it, but it's really very poor experimental design to do that. When you design your controls better, so that the control group experiences exactly the same amount of frustration/adrenaline and the only difference is the violent imagery, it becomes apparent that it's the frustration/adrenaline that increases aggressive tendencies, more so than the imagery.

That's not to say imagery does nothing at all, but its impact is definitely overstated.

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blu posted...

Id like the iOS adaptions a bit better than games Ive played on TTS. iOS a bit more streamlined and convenient. But TTS has some cool stuff and also has a more realistic feel...more of a simulated tabletop. Ive been wondering if I could play all of a LCG like LotR or AH on TTS but havent looked into it.

That's fair. My regular gaming group has tended more toward video games for our regular stuff than board games (although we've started doing more pen & paper stuff), but we frequently default to playing something in TTS if people can't make it for the regular game that week. We also used it to play through a full game of Pandemic Legacy, which was a great time (and well suited to TTS, since the actual Legacy rule set involves destroying or otherwise irreversibly modifying game pieces, which isn't ideal with physical stuff).

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Vaccines aren't made out of antibodies. Convalescent plasma (plasma from people that have recovered from it) is already being collected in many places to use to treat patients that are infected with Covid, since it helps to boost the immune system's response to it, but simply injecting antibodies doesn't prompt the body to produce its own and therefore doesn't confer long-term immunity. Trump's plasma would be no different from anyone else's in that regard, so while he could certainly donate it to contribute to those treatments, he would not be able to donate enough to treat all covid patients (if he could, literally any other recovered covid patient also could and he therefore wouldn't need to), nor is there any reason to suspect that his blood would somehow be the special one that allows a vaccine to be developed.

I know this is just meant to be a "look at us totally owning the libs" post, and not something with any actual degree of scientific accuracy, but the utter failure to understand anything about basic immunology or medicine just makes it kind of sad and desperate, rather than clever or funny. 2/10, good job choosing a fitting picture, but no further redeeming qualities.

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• Ate Breakfast
• Currently waiting for my cat to leave my lap so I can run to the nearby farmer's market for some veggies
• Start meal planning
• Finish meal planning and making a grocery list when my girlfriend gets home from work
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blu posted...

Solo board games because I don't have a good gaming group yet, moving far away right before COVID keeps most of my social gaming to iOS adaptions with distance friends

If you want something better than iOS adaptations, Tabletop Simulator has some pretty decent versions of quite a few board games. You'd all need to buy a copy, but it gets discounted down to $10 often enough that that's not an unreasonable cost of entry. It's far from perfect, but I've used it to play many games with distance friends.

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streamofthesky posted...

You do know there was literally a time where someone stole GWB's debate prep book and tried to give it to Al Gore's team and instead of taking them up on the offer and using it, they reported it to the authorities.
Right?

Politics is a dirty business. But one side has been dealing in it much dirtier than the other.

I don't doubt it, but the cynic in me also recognizes that Gore probably had more public opinion to gain by publicly returning it than by using it against Bush, especially if there was a significant risk of getting caught. Maybe that's unwarranted, but I'm inclined to just assume that every politician is stabbing every other politician in the back at all times and not try to make any party-scale generalizations.

OhhhJa posted...

I wear my mask whenever I go out but I'm still gonna call out what I think is a law that quite clearly crosses a line.

Why? It's a measure that has been exhaustively demonstrated to benefit public safety, the cost to follow it is minimal (speaking as somebody who has put on a mask during an asthma attack, the people who think they can't because they have respiratory issues need to chill out and get over themselves), and not following it puts others at risk. What line is it crossing that isn't also crossed by every other public safety law (including pretty much every traffic regulation)?

OhhhJa posted...

I don't think we should be having cops go out and arrest people for not putting a piece of cloth on their face

Again, if they're breaking the law, they should be arrested appropriately. That's exactly how laws work. If you think the law's unreasonable, argue that, not some alarmist, deliberately vague "they're arresting people for not having cloth on their face!" that tries to paint the situation as being too absurd to be worth arguing properly against. That's just a cheap, pathos-ridden cop-out to get the pearl clutchers on your side.

OhhhJa posted...

arresting people for facebook posts.

If I post on Facebook "Tomorrow at 11:30 AM, I'm going to set off a bomb at the corner of Main and York," should I not be arrested?

"People shouldn't be arrested for facebook posts" is a stupid thing to say. It's a vague blanket statement that deliberately misrepresents the situation to - again - alarm pearl clutchers into agreeing with you, while ignoring the very obvious reality that there are many Facebook posts that absolutely should result in arrests. Nobody is being arrested merely for making a post on Facebook. People are being arrested for announcing their plans to break the law, which is completely fair. Again, if you want to argue against the law, do that. Stop trying to convince us that people are being arrested merely for making facebook posts, because you're not fooling anyone and are just making yourself look ridiculous.

Nestama posted...

A protest would have only made lockdowns last longer.

This is something people don't seem to get: Anti-lockdown protests aren't going to change anyone's mind. Lockdowns are based on the best available medical advice, and medicine doesn't care how many witty slogans you can come up with. Everyone already knows you're unhappy with the situation, because everyone else is also unhappy with the situation because it's a goddamn pandemic. Protesting lockdowns accomplishes absolutely nothing while also worsening the situation for everyone else, which is why the protests are met with such vitriol from the people who are also sick of being locked down but have the maturity to ride it out instead of throwing an impotent temper tantrum.

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streamofthesky posted...

It takes a big 'ol pair of brass balls for the party that colluded with Russia to hack the DNC servers to accuse the other party of spying on them

Eh, let's be real: Both parties spy on each other to the fullest extent they believe they can get away with. That's not a partisan thing, that's just politics being a dirty, dirty business.

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OhhhJa posted...

These people are being arrested for simply saying they are going to attend a protest on facebook.

adjl posted...

it's pretty safe to assume that people attending a lockdown protest are not going to be following the public health guidelines they're openly protesting against.

Context, dude. You can find a lot of useful information there that often tells you how reasonably you can generalize your observations.

OhhhJa posted...

I've only seen multiple videos of people being arrested for not wearing a mask often times when they arent even near other people.

How can they be arrested if they aren't near other people? Are police officers not people?

OhhhJa posted...

If I told you a year ago that in a year people would be getting arrested and tased all for not wearing a mask you would've thought I was nuts.

If you told me a year ago that we'd be facing a highly contagious global pandemic right now, I would have thought you were nuts. If you told me a year ago that you would expect that a hypothetical highly contagious global pandemic would result in restrictions on gatherings and laws requiring the use of protective equipment that had been proven to make a significant difference to transmission rates, and that people would be arrested for failing to comply with those rules, I'd probably wonder why you were saying such a thing with no apparent context, but I would think that the hypothetical scenario in question was reasonable and plausible enough.

Again, context. A year ago, you had no reason to expect people to be arrested for not wearing a mask because you had no reason to expect there to be any reason to wear a mask, let alone legally mandate them. That's so obvious it borders on tautology.

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Zeus posted...

Except it really isn't, since ANY kind of insurance would have the same problem if people tried to fundamentally break the insurance model to fit people who didn't bother buying insurance. Therefore it's not specific to health insurance, but literally true of ALL insurance.

I never suggested it was specific to health insurance. You are correct that, fundamentally, the insurance model doesn't work well if insurers aren't able to refuse to sell policies to high-risk clients, since the entire model revolves around ensuring that the cost of paying out on policies doesn't exceed the income from those that don't need it. If you can't do that, you simply can't sustain a company.

The reason health care is a poor fit for insurance is because of what happens when people can't get it. If you can't get car insurance because you've gotten into too many accidents, you just don't drive. If you can't get flood insurance because it rains too much, you can move somewhere drier. If you can't get health insurance because you have a history of heart problems, you can either go bankrupt paying for it yourself, or you can die the next time a cat jumps out at you. That's not exactly a reasonable alternative.

Yes, there are things one can do to cut down on their medical expenses and make themselves more insurable. Eating well, exercising, not smoking... Pre-existing conditions, however, generally aren't something anyone can do anything about. Presuming you don't want those people to just die destitute for their uncontrollable bad luck (which a great many opponents of nationalized health care do), your options are either to protect people with said conditions from being denied insurance (which fundamentally breaks the concept of insurance), or move to a non-profit model that is supported by fungible assets (most commonly taxes).

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BlackScythe0 posted...

Holy shit

https://twitter.com/rossjonesWXYZ/status/1314581815815004160

This is a sheriff trying to justify their actions by saying he thinks they could be justified if they were trying a citizens arrest.

Doesn't citizen's arrest usually involve taking a suspect criminal to the police, not to a "secure location to await the trial we'll give her"?

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OhhhJa posted...

The Facebook posts are people saying they're going to a lockdown protest.

And it's pretty safe to assume that people attending a lockdown protest are not going to be following the public health guidelines they're openly protesting against. That non-compliance may not be explicitly in the post, but it's a reasonable inference to make. If anti-mask protesters wore masks and practiced social distancing while protesting, they'd still be under fire for spreading blatant misinformation, but they'd no longer be an immediate threat to public safety and arresting them would therefore no longer be as reasonable.

Of course, that'd completely destroy their credibility and make their protest futile and silly, but I'm not exactly going to lose sleep over idiots making themselves look even more stupid than they already do.

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A good many members of the Republican party aren't exactly fans of Trump either, given how flagrantly he goes against their entire moral stance. They just stand to benefit from pretending otherwise.

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OhhhJa posted...

But blm protests are okay right? Lol

Depends what you mean by "BLM protests," since people like yourself seem to enjoy using it as a rather disingenuous blanket term. Posting plans to commit vandalism or arson would indeed justify an arrest. Posting plans to participate in a peaceful protest would not. Regardless of the protest in question, wearing a mask and maintaining physical distancing is going to be a good idea, but merely expressing interest in a BLM protest says nothing either way about one's intent to comply with those recommendations.

OhhhJa posted...

But people being arrested in the first place for not wearing a mask is ludicrous.

Why? There's a highly contagious, deadly pandemic afoot that can be spread asymptomatically and whose spread masks have proven to be very effective at limiting. Not wearing a mask introduces the risk of infecting other people if the person is infectious (and one generally can't be certain one isn't, due to how many cases are asymptomatic), as well as increasing the risk that that person becomes infected (and, in turn, infects many other people because they aren't wearing a mask). As such, not wearing a mask endangers the public.

Is the purpose of the police not to arrest those who are a threat to public safety?

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OhhhJa posted...

Imagine being arrested for Facebook posts lol

Facebook posts in which you openly admit to jeopardizing public safety and/or breaking the law? That sounds pretty reasonable. If you want to ignore the content of said posts and try to paint it as being arrested merely for making a post on facebook, that sounds a lot worse, but that's blatantly mischaracterizing the situation.

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It's different, and some long-standing fans of the series weren't a fan of it, but I'd say it's well worth playing. I really wish the power combination thing would make a comeback, since it was really just plain fun to play around with.

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streamofthesky posted...

That can't possibly be the first.
I swear like a month into the pandemic here in the U.S. (like..April), there was a dollar store employee that told a woman w/o a mask she had to leave and she had her husband come back and shoot him.
I totally remember that story...

Yep, that was ages ago.

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Intel was the pretty clear winner for a while, but my understanding is that AMD has stepped up their game while Intel's gotten complacent and the last couple generations have been much more in AMD's favour. Basically the same thing that happens with consoles pretty much every gen.

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For that matter, why shouldn't people who refuse to wear masks be assaulted? They're wilfully endangering people, so beating them into compliance sounds like pretty textbook self-defense to me. At the very least, a citizen's arrest seems appropriate, and given your stance on Arbery's murder, I should think you'd be okay with exercising whatever violence is necessary to achieve that goal.

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Sarcasthma posted...

Should I tag Ohhhja again?

He does seem to have made several additional posts without addressing that particular bit of empirical reality. I find it hard to believe he genuinely didn't notice, so tagging him likely won't alert him to anything, but I could see it providing you with some entertainment value.

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LinkPizza posted...

the lite cant even do what the switch is suppose to do...

I mean, the Switch is supposed to play games, and the Lite does that. The fact that the Lite can't switch does mean it lacks one of the system's primary identifying features, but it does serve the most important purpose of the system.

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Zeus posted...

The right to have a gun or militia doesn't grant the right to use those things to do illegal activities.

Which kind of undermines the point of the 2nd amendment. It exists to give the people the power to overthrow a tyrannical government if the need arises. Overthrowing a tyrannical government, however, is generally going to be illegal, because most governments - tyrannical or otherwise - have laws against orchestrating their downfall. People are guaranteed the right to be able to overthrow the government, but not the right to actually do it.

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OhhhJa posted...

He's the president. He has obligations. He can't sit in a hospital for 2 weeks

He has a phone and Internet access. That's all you need to do any office job, president included. The protocol is already constitutionally established for the VP to take over any necessary duties that he can't handle from there, meaning Trump leaving the hospital (and the ensuing risk to the lives of those around him) is completely unnecessary. Yes, he absolutely can sit in a hospital for two weeks. Even if he couldn't, the possibility that he might need to has been an undeniable threat for nearly a year now and there would be absolutely no excuse for his administration failing to make the necessary preparations for that possibility.

Furthermore, the notion that parading around in a limo is a "presidential obligation" is so blatantly ludicrous that I'm amazed that even you had the gall to suggest it.

Further still, the man's gone on plenty of two-week golf vacations since taking office, and the country didn't implode without him sitting in the big chair. Don't be so melodramatic.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Given how uncomfortable the tests supposedly are (I've yet to take one) I always found it extremely difficult to believe that Trump was willing to get tested daily (or even weekly).

It's not that bad, provided the nurse isn't too rough with the swab (which they aren't supposed to be, but not everyone can be good at their job). My girlfriend had some lingering pain and bleeding, but she's also got a persistent sinus infection that I'm guessing contributed to that. The wait to be processed and whatnot was more unpleasant than the test itself, and presumably the president wouldn't have to wait in line.

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They can barely keep them on the shelves at their current price, so there's not much incentive to lower it. I wouldn't expect a price drop until sales start to slow down quite a bit.

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Firewerx posted...

Nutjob covidiots seem to come in two basic varieties:

1. Coronavirus (a) isn't real, or (b) it's an overblown case of the sniffles. Either way, it's all a fearmongering conspiracy by the "deep state", which is trying to force everyone to wear masks because... er... well, for whatever incomprehensible reason. This faceless "deep state" has its tentacles into practically every government in the world!
2. Coronavirus is very real, a crippling bioweapon of low-intensity warfare purposely unleashed and spread by the commie Chinese to ruin President Trump's economic miracle. We need to abuse and threaten Asian Americans because they're bioterrorists.
It's tremendous that the Republican right is such a big tent that it can comfortably accommodate both totally contradictory positions.

Bonus points where Trump himself claims to occupy both positions near-simultaneously, and each camp will cling to what he says that supports their position as absolutely authoritative while completely disregarding his comments to the contrary.

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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

What matters is whether their actions were lawful.

That said, where hate crimes are often different charges from their non-hate-motivated counterparts, racist motivations may be relevant for making hate crime charges stick. In theory, I'd be fine with doing away with separate hate crime charges and just treating hate as an exacerbating factor during sentencing. In general, hate-motivated crimes are worse because of how many more potential targets they have and how commonly they're motivated by an ideology and therefore at increased risk of reoffending, which means they should be treated differently, but that treatment can easily be handled in sentencing. Try to handle it in the initial conviction, and you risk failing to convict them because you couldn't prove a hateful motive, which just wastes everyone's time and introduces the risk that they'll walk free.

In practice, however, I believe it is a different charge, so it needs to be considered now.

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Nooses are actually pretty handy knots. I used them in loading up the u-haul truck for my move a couple months ago, where I couldn't reach in to tie a knot around the rail, so I threaded the rope through, tied a noose, then tightened it into place (did a bowline for the other end, which wasn't ideal for adding tension as I tied it, but did keep the loop from slipping). It worked pretty well.

As for whether or not that's racist, I wouldn't say so. That's a context where a noose is reasonably appropriate and doesn't immediately call lynchings to mind. In other contexts, nooses can be racist.

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JixHedgehog posted...

Damn it

This was supposed to be a vague topic without the mention of names

I mean, TC still hasn't mentioned any names. Everyone else has done a perfectly thorough job of inserting their own assumptions about who he was talking about, which I'd say means the topic has gone perfectly.

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OhhhJa posted...

Living your life is necessary though and I probably stand the chance to die in a car crash or a random act of violence almost as much as I do from covid statistically, if not more.

adjl posted...

you were quite happy to chime in and say "that's not really analogous because you aren't factoring in the fact that you probably won't be exposed" (though also avoiding giving an answer to the actual question), relying on that logic to continue disapproving of precautions.

Well, it's time to break out that analogy again, only this time you can't hide behind vague "you probably won't be exposed" defenses. Every person working anywhere close to Trump right now is being forced to play that game.

We're not talking about your everyday life. We're talking about Trump insisting on going into the White House instead of remaining isolated in a hospital and doing all of his duties from there/delegating what can't be done there to Pence. We're talking about Trump demanding that he be paraded around in front of his supporters, all but guaranteeing that the security staff involved will be infected. The odds of being infected during everyday life are irrelevant here (though would be high enough without precautions that using current infection rates to disparage the precautions that have kept them so low is terribly silly).

OhhhJa posted...

You could tell me I have 1000 chances to roll a 6 on a 6 sided die or I die and I wouldn't play despite having pretty much 100% chance. It's an unnecessary risk.

Which is precisely the point, as elaborated on in the part of the post you cropped out. Covid's death (or even serious illness) rate is low enough to be an acceptable risk for necessary activities. It's high enough, however, that taking unnecessary risks should be avoided, which is exactly the basis for every suggested precaution, as well as for saying that Trump should stay isolated in hospital until he's no longer contagious.

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