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Bustin - Neil Cicierega

Steiner posted...

should solid evidence not supercede occam's razor?

Maybe I need to reword that - my idea here is that "taking the simplest explanation as truth" makes most conspiracies immediately difficult to swallow from the start because they ask for more complicated explanations than the face value one, but the moon landing is different because of the knowably intense political motivations of the time and the fact that faking it would not be that hard EXCEPT FOR the fact that it would require thousands and thousands of people to never leak details which is just fucking impossible, which is easily the most unbelievable part of the conspiracy, but that's still a far cry from thinking the earth is flat

xp1337 posted...

It probably doesn't necessitate it but the 5G nonsense came in many flavors. It could cause cancer, COVID, mind control, I think I once read weather control at one point. It was like real-life magic.

I can absolutely appreciate people voting for flat earth here but Pizzagate and 5G really are some next-level stupidity. Flat earth "just" requires you to be so un-curious that you go "my eyes tell me the earth is flat as far as my eye can see and that never changes!" and, yes, ignoring basic science. But you need to up the crazy several notches from "ignore basic science" to get to those two.

Yeah the 5G thing goes from "ignore basic science" to "actually invent things that science cannot do", like it's one thing to think science is wrong and another to think science is CAPABLE OF MAGIC

redrocket posted...

.....No, skepticism of the moon landings is not warranted WTF.

http://www.clavius.org/

Educate yourself please, everyone.

Well yes, once you actually add up the evidence that the moon landing really happened, it's deeply improbable that it didn't happen. But this site starts with occam's razor and it's my opinion that occam's razor immediately defeats every other conspiracy on the list but it's a lot more inconclusive with the moon landing. It's something that demands solid evidence, which it has.

Nanis23 posted...

So yeah..like in Golden Sun. Pretty much waterfalls into the void


Interesting, how exactly? Hillary is not running this time

Pizzagate goes way deeper than just Hillary Clinton and applies to the belief that the entire democratic party is involved in a massive pedophilia scheme that still somehow all started in the basement of a pizza restaurant, and it's the progenitor conspiracy theory behind Q, which is something that about 30% of americans currently follow. It's completely fucknuts ridiculous but is somehow fueling a ton of anti-democratic resentment in the country at the moment

One of the conspiracies I was expecting to be on here was chemtrails btw

That's up there with 5G in like, just looking at a completely harmless thing and completely fabricating totally insane ideas of what's going on based on pure fantasy

That's what makes the 5G thing even more stupid than flat earth to me. Flat earth is dumb as hell but at least it is at least vaguely understandable that someone who's really gullible and has no trust in science at all would feel with their own eyes and experiences that it makes sense for the planet to be flat. Like... it's really stupid, but it's basically impossible to prove otherwise simply through evidence - you sort of just have to believe that science (albeit extremely basic science) is telling the truth. I don't have any personal experience of the planet being a globe, aside from being able to triangulate this idea by looking at the sky, but even then I have to accept certain axioms as being true. It's just very easy to do because the science is so ridiculously settled that they knew about this thousands of years ago.

The 5G thing is like... just completely fantasizing the idea of 5G being DISEASE-CARRYING MIND CONTROL WAVES or whatever completely out of whole cloth. Instead of imagining that science is wrong, you're imagining that science is way more powerful than even remotely possible but they're lying to you. Flat earth is simply a misunderstanding of the reality of the world, the 5G conspiracies demand that engineers actually be capable of things that they are just flat out not capable of because it's completely fucking impossible.

Chemtrails is in the same boat for me because it's like, looking at fucking water vapor and just imagining that they're spraying chemicals in the air for ??? purposes, as if that would even do anything. Totally nuts.

Nanis23 posted...

What the fuck lmao

I am not trying to dunk on you right now but I need to impress on you the importance of understanding that Pizzagate is the STARTING LINE for understanding the harrowing nature of US politics right now

Jakyl25 posted...

This is a smart take, but my one counterpoint is that going to the moon seems like it would be easier than hundreds of people keeping that secret under lock and key for 50 years <_<

To my knowledge, no moon landing was staged person claims to have actual inside knowledge

Yeah I mean this is why it's INCREDIBLY unlikely at this point. Plus, we do demonstrably have proof that the technology for us to have gotten to the moon exists, so at that point the moon landing being real is pretty damn likely. But, considering the circumstances of the space race and how important we considered winning it to be, it's not thoroughly implausible to imagine a scenario in which we would have faked all or at least some of the details. I think skepticism is actually warranted on it!

BetrayedTangy posted...

I love how Jeffrey Epstein's 'Suicide' didn't make the list, because I doubt anyone actually believes he killed himself

I do

Hot take, the moon landing conspiracy isn't stupid. The reason is because, unlike all the other conspiracies listed, it's the only one where the conspiracy actually would be simpler than what really happened - it would be much easier to fake the moon landing than to actually land on the moon. Plus, given the political motivations of the time, faking the moon landing is something that they really might have tried to do if they thought they could get away with it. I believe it is still deeply unlikely, but what makes it at least interesting to consider is that it asks of you to believe an easier explanation. The other conspiracies all involve things that are way more insane and difficult to believe than the truth which is what makes them stupid as hell.

I went with 5G towers because I think that's the most maximally stupid one.

skullbone posted...

New content is nice but I'm getting kinda sick of games adding substantial content updates seemingly out of nowhere months after a game has been released. As someone who rarely plays games more than once it feels like you're being burned a little bit for playing games when they're actually released.

Yeah, I do kinda feel this. I really like Bug Fables but I played through it and I'm not really ready to play through it again for a little while, so getting new content in the game is like... eh.

Whoa, neat. I had no idea they were still gonna do stuff with it.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

The excuse is that hes funny as hell, and Joe is a comedian.

You guys should really lighten up.

You disgust me.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

You guys are like...years and years outdated.

I'm not the one who listens to Joe Rogan and thinks he isn't a piece of shit my dude

Honestly I've hated the fact that people have good laughs memeing Alex Jones for years now. It's just given him more notoriety and there's nothing funny about him

KamikazePotato posted...

My opinion is that V3 should absolutely should be played last and I'm not sure why people are recommending he do otherwise. If you're going to experience UDG and the anime, do them first.

I haven't watched the anime but UDG has more to offer than people give it credit for. Better narrative than DR2! I mean the gameplay is garbage but hey!

I also agree with this

if you're gonna do UDG and DR3, do those first. DRV3 should come last.

That's all I'll say

My opinion is that DR3 is skippable, but it's not skippable if you're going to bother playing UDG. At that point, you should absolutely watch DR3 and get the full experience, because like, if you're playing UDG you're in this shit for the long haul.

There's like three things about DR3 I really like so like, sure, watch it

Anagram posted...

Just to be super clear, the anime to watch is Danganronpa 3: The End of Hope's Peak High School, and not Danganronpa: The Animation, right? The second one is just a retelling of the first game in anime form, while the first one is an actual sequel to the first two games, that's correct?

Correct.

If you do watch DR3, then please be aware that you absolutely must watch in this order:

Future 1
Despair 1
Future 2
Despair 2
Future 3...
...etc...
...Hope

This isn't optional

DR3 would have been so much more hilarious if it had a full sequence in which Makoto did a Logic Dive

hombad46 posted...

So where does the D in Komaeda come from?

It's in Japanese - Makoto Naegi da

Ma Ko To Na E Gi

Na Gi To Ko Ma E Da

Yeah uh, it's really fucking weird to have police contact you as a missing person after 36 hours of not returning a call, what the fuck

Yeah I feel the same way about DR2. Individually the characters are more likeable, but they really don't form a cohesive whole, especially at the end.

Glad to see 2-5 is ranked correctly

Might be the singular time in the DR series that it really hits the same peak that the AA franchise does

DR3 has redeeming qualities, largely contained within the despair arc

538 has Wisconsin at 94% for Biden now. It's above Michigan and Nevada on the snake chart. I think the Biden +17 poll is stupid but we'll see, maybe the dam really is breaking.

Go away, foolmo

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

I shouldn't have made this topic. I keep getting alerts and I don't know how to turn them off. lol

There is a way to not get alerts for your topics but I forgot where it was because I turned it off a long time ago. It exists though.

Implied spoilers are the reason I don't DO playthrough topics

People, seriously, chill the fuck out about talking about stuff that people haven't gotten to yet. This has been a problem in every Danganronpa playthrough topic ever and it's embarrassing. If you've played Danganronpa then you know perfectly well about how certain details can be implied spoilers. This has been going on for years and it's really pissing me off.

There's so much stuff Biden literally needs to do day one that he's gonna have to speedrun that shit

MawiIe posted...

I think what makes it fun is that each time you can discover new paths and shortcuts and ways the level interconnects. There are so many places where a well timed triple jump on a slope can cut a decent amount of minutes off of your run. Like yeah jumping up tick tock clock over and over is a bit of a nightmare but jumping up the last time was completely different in path/speed/confidence that it as a completely different level.

I agree with this point - honestly, I feel like I could write a whole book on why I think some degree of repetition in gaming is actually an important tool, and the ability to discover something new among the familiar is one of those reasons

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Oh, season 1 of the DR anime has a pretty awesome opening and closing song. Big recommend if you can get to listen it without spoiling yourself.

My rule of "absolutely never ever look up anything Danganronpa related" applies. It can wait until it would no longer be a spoiler.

Wow you really plowed through that

DR1 is my least favorite of the trilogy, so you might enjoy the other two games a lot

Haha, that's amazing

I honestly still haven't seen anyone get to 7-4... I've only seen people get to 4-4, and they've always been fine, so I assumed the same would be true of 7-4

hoping for the best

Oh well then, that's good, if you made it through chapter 3 then you're probably good lol

At least the series as a whole does pick up after the first half of DR1, which is the weakest

but uhhhh yeah the nonsense doesn't stop so

I knew he wouldn't lol

I feel like Anagram should have made a playthrough topic at this point instead of giving updates in a topic where everyone's bickering about other games in the series lol

oh no, it's such a 'substantial burden' to my religious beliefs to not be allowed to oppress LGBT people at all times

Anagram posted...

I assume this is similar to AA, in that you can't miss a piece of evidence, right? Because I keep examining the correct item to progress the story, robbing me of the ability to look at other things.

correct

Although that said I forgot the exact specifics on how free times work in DR1 lol. But yeah NEVER look those up, get someone else to do it for you. You do need to present the right kind of gift to get a full scene so that's important.

Anagram posted...

Thanks. I was thinking of looking up the characters on TVTropes and the Wiki after beating the game, but I'm worried that even that might lead to spoilers for D2 and D3.

Never, ever, for any reason, look up anything related to Danganronpa. If you have any questions, you can always come to me, I am very good at dancing around spoilers.

Anagram posted...

Is there an actual reason why the blood is pink, or is it just a censorship thing?

It's both a matter of Japanese game ratings but also a stylistic choice at the end of the day

UshiromiyaEva posted...

It's always pretty annoying how anti-Danganronpa people act like they are some how enlightened and are above the series and that somehow people who are fans are forcing themselves to endure. This just so happens to often be big time AA fans who feel like they have to get offended when the series get compared.

I mean, this is just how I feel about the Danganronpa franchise, is all - I enjoyed the games, especially V3 which I think is very good, but the series is rife with problems that make it hard for me to recommend, which AA didn't do to me. Also, knowing Anagram pretty well, I'm pretty sure he is NOT going to like Danganronpa 1 - I could be wrong, though

By the way guys, nobody really stepped over the line but just be careful when talking about Danganronpa and don't implicitly spoil anything or set expectations beyond what's asked for

Danganronpa is badly overrated, especially the first one, but it does enough good things that it is probably worth playing if you're itching for more Ace Attorney-like content. It's a real love/hate kind of game - it's going to piss you off a lot but it'll do some exciting things along the way.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

A Trump official is saying parents separated from their kids at the border dont want them.

Man how anyone with any humanity votes for this president is just beyond me.

they don't