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A friend of mine got down to single-digit body fat percentage years ago, doing Body for Life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_for_Life

Obviously it has people who criticize it (like most diets), and often for good reasons (like most diets), but in that one case at least, it definitely worked.

Combining it with a power-lifting routine (or even something like CrossFit or P90X) would probably get you some impressive results. But like with most things, your own level of commitment and investment is going to be way more important than what you're actually doing.
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Disagree. There are plenty of equally bad if not vastly worse fanbases you can find if you spend more than 20 minutes on the Internet.

Also, if you're going to make trolling topics like this one, at least have the courage to do it with your main.
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Much better than single player games that are only half-assed versions of more robust multiplayer modes.
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Go back to ruling medieval Venice, you bastard.
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I'm allergic to tomatoes, you bastard.
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Kimbos_Egg posted...

oh wow i'm actually on one. and bligh fucking beat me. What a nightmare.

Even worse, he hasn't been here for years and he's still got the immortality of living in my signature forever!

YOU aren't in my signature!
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hypnox posted...

Most of his movies post weed arent.

This so very much.

The weed isn't the only problem - the other thing he started doing around the same time was his podcasts, and those burned off a LOT of his creative energy that he would have otherwise have been channeling into film.

But he definitely fell into the "every idea I have is utterly hilarious while I'm stoned" trap that a lot of stoners fall into, where he'll laugh hysterically at ideas he has that literally no one else finds funny. The difference is that he then goes on to write all those ideas down and put them into scripts because he thinks they're hilarious.
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This is why I stopped watching years ago. The writing has been more and more downhill since the Matt Smith era, and it's at the point now where it's just kind of atrocious.
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The entire point of Death Note is pretty much to indicate that Light was a fuck up from the beginning. Having the Note didn't change him, it just revealed who he always was, right from the start. He was only the straight-A student who seemed like a good person because that's what society expected him to be, and the socially acceptable mask he wore because he wasn't willing to risk breaking the rules.

He wasn't a noble, good person who was slowly turned evil. He was basically a serial killer who figured out a way to put a noble face on his killing so people wouldn't object as strongly (a not-too-dissimilar mentality to the one being espoused by the Joker in The Dark Knight).
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MrMelodramatic posted...

I couldve sworn I was on there...

There was more than one PotDpedia. Maybe you were on one but not the other.
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Korruptor posted...

Yes except pitbulls and labadors, they go to cat hell.

To be fair, Cat Hell is also Dog Heaven.
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Zangulus posted...

My car's original stereo had a tape player but no CD.

Most of the stock radios I've had in cars over the years didn't even have tape players. My current car is pretty much the only one I've ever owned with anything other than AM/FM - it has a CD player and XM radio (though I stopped paying for the subscription like 8 years ago).
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hypnox posted...

I should be on there, this is a rip off

Most people just wrote pages for themselves because almost none of them were notable enough for anyone else to care, so that just means you were lazy.
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

Who let you out of the retierment home grandpa? If your car is modern enough you can just load everything to a USB stick and plug it into your cars USB drive and access the files from the screen.

Could be worse. He could have to burn MP3s to CD and play them off that.
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I'm firmly convinced that all dogs go to heaven, but no human ever has.
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InfestedAdam posted...

I can almost imagine Han holding the lightsaber the wrong way in Empire Strike Back, impaling himself, and Luke dying from exposure.

Most lightsabers make it look pretty blatantly obvious which end is the "live" end. Look at any prop or toy and you can probably guess which end the beam is supposed to come out of 90%+ of the time, even if you've literally never seen Star Wars.



Zangulus posted...

So where does that prove that you have to know the force in order to use a light sabre?

I assume he meant that was proof that you don't.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

I completely understood and it isnt objectively incorrect

You clearly didn't, and it is.
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Zeus posted...

Shut your pie hole, Returns was amazing.

It was Tim Burton's Stereotypical Goth Weirdness, with special guest-star Batman.

If you want Goth Weirdness, it's fine. If you go in wanting Batman, it's pretty shit.

If Batman and Robin didn't exist, I'd easily say it was the worst Batman movie ever made.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

Tran's acting wasn't bad in any way.

It was bad in a number of ways.

But again, at least some of that could be script/direction.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

this would be like considering the same game released on Xbox one and PS4 two separate games because they each have version exclusive costumes or some shit

I feel like you missed the entire literal meaning of my post, and your response is both irrelevant and objectively incorrect based on what I actually said.
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guy12345 posted...

The word "semi-final" implies the final 4 teams, entries etc of a tournament. A semi final cannot have 3. It must have 4.

No it doesn't, yes it can.

In fact, the history of this site has generally always assumed any given poll or contest can involve more than two competitors (ie, the "final" could be anywhere from 2-5 options), so you're not just wrong, you're about 15 years too late for anyone to care.
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If you're finding you have less in common with your significant other, and that you're feeling unfulfilled, and you're starting to see them as a sort of person you can't see yourself being happy with, then yes, you should probably consider moving on.

They may be a wonderful person, but if you're not really connecting, why bother staying together? Break up, freeing both of you to find someone else who will actually make you happier. And if they're not a wonderful person, that's even more reason not to tie yourself down into a relationship that's going to make you miserable for decades to come because you think it's what you're "supposed" to do.

If nothing else, getting out because things like marriage, kids, or shared property ownership come into the equation means the break-up will be much less messy.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

not really though cause its the same game in both versions.

That makes it worse, not better.
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ultra magnus13 posted...

Honestly I feel like Ahmed did great with what he was given.

Yes, but he was given absolute stupidity and Stepin Fetchit racism.

Is why I said his problem was more the writing and directing than the acting.

Jake Lloyd's problem was all three - he wasn't a very experienced actor, and he doesn't seem like a very good one. A skilled director could have coaxed a better performance out of him, but Lucas is terrible and just made that problem worse. And the lines he was given were just plain bad, so it would be hard even for great experienced actors to deliver them with anything resembling quality.

Kelly Marie Tran doesn't really have the Lucas excuse, or even the "it's harder to act when everything is green screen" excuse, so her bad acting feels a lot more her own fault. But her character's role and scenes were also kind of terrible, so it's possible she's a much better actor than she seems to be, and comes across worse because she's in a bad movie.
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Batman Forever, while campy, was honestly a better movie than Batman Returns. Returns was hot garbage.
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At least it made the poll. If it was really far below the radar it wouldn't have even gotten that.
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LeetCheet posted...

You meet the girl of your dreams and she suddenly turns into poop.
How screwed are you?

I honestly prefer Ico's topics to either of the others' gimmicks.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryhn3m474DY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrwMyQ3_7P8
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keyblader1985 posted...

Superliminal?

Liminal basically means "line", and is generally used to mean "threshold".

Subliminal simply means "below the threshold" (as in the context of, "below the threshold of awareness"). In that sense, superliminal would mean "above the threshold". And liminal would be "on the threshold".

What it would mean precisely would depend on the context it's being used in.
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I don't feel they they, personally, deserved the amount of hate or the type of hate they got.

BUT.

Their characters were terrible, poorly written, and in most cases poorly performed, so they DO deserve criticism. And I consider it perfectly legitimate to ask whether they specifically should have been cast in the first place (in Ahmed Best's case, it's less that and more an issue of poor writing/direction, but the other two don't seem like very good actors in general).
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Renraku_San posted...

And before you be all edgy and ask "Who?", Google her name and look at pictures, then come back here and vote.

I voted not without looking at her solely to spite you, because fuck you.
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TheSlinja posted...

The wording is freezing water molecules, you can do some sick shit with that if you think farther than just shooting ice

Yeah, but it's still not radically breaking every thermodynamic law of the universe on multiple levels, which is what Iceman's "freezing" power essentially is.



Far-Queue posted...

So he's an Omega Level mutant, just like I said? Gotcha.

He's an Omega level mutant who has ice powers, but not every character with ice powers is Omega level. Is the point I'm making here.

For example, Blizzard and Thermite wouldn't even remotely be classified as Omega-level if they were mutants. And Thermite's ice powers really, really suck.

Iceman is Omega Level, but that doesn't mean that ice powers on their own can't be kind of shit.



zebatov posted...

Everyone votes 7. Cheaters.

They've been studies done, and generally speaking, when given a choice 1-10, 7 will almost always be the most popular number picked.

That's why, when you make one of these topics, you should always put the worst option as #7, to screw with people. And why, when you ARE picking a number in one of these topics, you should never, ever pick 7.

8 is usually the next most popular number.
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You're definitely not the original Arv, just like the second person who came here claiming to be Almighty Ryu and doing his gimmick wasn't the original either.
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Far-Queue posted...

Guess you don't read comic books. Iceman is an Omega Level mutant.

That's not due to his normal ice powers, though. It's because he has potential he almost never taps, and can theoretically affect all matter and energy on the subatomic level.

When he's just freezing things or making ice-slides, he's not an Omega-level mutant. When he's siphoning energy out of the universe on a global scale, freezing the entire Earth, expanding his awareness through the entirety of snow and ice across the whole planet, and able to shift his consciousness halfway around globe, then he's tapping into the Omega level powers.

Most mutants with ice powers aren't even remotely Omega level.

It's sort of similar to the Flash - just being fast isn't impressive (Quicksilver is fast, and no one cares). But when you're SO fast that you can literally vibrate your molecules through solid matter (or through time itself), fly, channel lightning through your hands, make things explode, turn invisible, alter your eyes to see in non-visible light portions of the electromagnetic spectrum, or freeze other people in time by siphoning their speed away from them, then you've basically turned speed into borderline godhood (or not so borderline).
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adjl posted...

That difference may not be overly significant, and it'll disappear when you're working with single-unit imperial measurements, but for anyone who does have to do math on measurements that aren't always so tidy, metric is pretty unquestionably superior.

But again, in the span of the average person's life, they're not juggling so many conversions that the slight extra edge in speed is going to mean anything.

Which is why I pointed out that, in the context of science, where you may be doing multiple conversions often and where precision is important, then Metric is definitely better. But if the only conversion I do this week is trying to figure out the comparative prices of a 2 liter bottle of soda to a six-pack of 12oz cans, it really doesn't matter which system I'm using.

Basically, the overall benefits gained in the long-run are minor enough that it doesn't necessarily justify the short-term disruption and frustration the change-over would change if it was done all in one go.

And I still say for certain applications, Standard is better than Metric. For example, Fahrenheit is more precise and useful for the range of temperatures humans find comfortable than Celsius is (whereas Celsius is more useful for scientific applications).
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It may also depend on playstyles. There are definitely builds in some games that would be OP, but because of how you play, you may fail to take advantage of most of the benefits and it winds up being effectively gimped for you (like, for instance, a build that revolves around dodging when you mostly play games hack-and-slash melee spam, or something that rewards precision headshots when you mostly spray-and-pray).

Some builds will compliment your normal playstyle and feel overpowered because you're maximizing its effectiveness. For someone else, who plays very differently, that same build may feel weak because it conflicts with how they normally play and they're not getting most of the benefits out of it they should be.
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CarefreeDude posted...

It is outright silly we don't use it.

For some things Standard is still better. Metric is mostly useful for science (where we already mostly use it).

The only real advantage of Metric is unit conversion, but for most applications it's perfectly easy to do if you were raised using inches/feet/etc. The people who have the most problems with it are people who are already using Metric, and fuck those people.
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Ogurisama posted...

Also secret alliances and people coming to defend their buddies

And Britain outright lying to Germany behind the scenes telling them they wouldn't get involved if war broke out, which is part of what emboldened Germany to move on France, and royally pissed them off when Britain declared war on them for it.
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EvilMegas posted...

A pretty short life lol

I don't know what ending you got, but mine was awesome.
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Bible Black
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zebatov posted...

SinisterSlay posted...

Yeah around age 50 it becomes a worry. Especially if you want children because women get scared to have children at that age.

Its worse than that statistically. After age forty all kinds of complications can happen.

Adoption exists.
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Zeus posted...

Once again, you're assuming that individual consciousness is solely a construct of memories rather than biology and that the process of being younger won't affect your outlook.

Mainly because the initial premise says you retain all current knowledge, which would include life experience, which is a large part of personality development.

Yes, biochemistry definitely plays a large role in personality as well, but once you're already working with decades worth of experiential memories, the impact of biology would likely be minimized. At most, you'd potentially have different emotional reactions to things as your neurochemistry differs.

(Then again, I've always fallen pretty hard on the environmental side of the Nature/Nurture argument, and my main field was Cognitive Psychology, where there tends to be emphasis on the idea of the "mind" being software running on the hardware of the brain/body.)

Or, conversely, the moment you're dropping into a new body your existing personality is almost entirely eradicated (because radically different neurochemistry would change a lot of how you react to the world and process input, especially emotionally - but for the sake of the hypothetical I'm mostly ignoring that and just going with the premise as presented. Because otherwise, I'd argue that YOU don't retain all current knowledge, or anything at all), at which point the entire question becomes moot anyway, because "you" will no longer exist the moment you take the deal, and "someone else" will just get the opportunity to benefit from whatever lotto numbers you manage to memorize somehow.

(Realistically speaking this entire scenario would be impossible anyway, since memories stem from neuron development and you'd have to replicate your adult brain in its entirety in a child skull, and radically different neurochemistry would change a lot of how you react to the world and process input, especially emotionally, but for the sake of the hypothetical I'm mostly ignoring that and just going with the premise as presented.)



Zeus posted...

Ironically enough, you even bring up brain development while simultaneously glossing over the fact that the same development would color your existence so ultimately you wouldn't simply be an adult trapped in a child's body.

Because this really wouldn't be the case.

Childhood personality development tends to occur in a specific way because it involves starting with a blank slate, and learning to see the world in different ways, with the "lens" you see the world through changing over time. The world you see and understand as a child who has only reached the concrete reasoning stage is different from the world of a teen who is mastering abstract thinking.

But in our current scenario we're not dealing with tabula rasa children, but children who are essentially born with all the knowledge of their adult selves. They would by definition be something completely other than a normal child, even if their viewpoint was being contracted by their new biology.



Zeus posted...

Again, keep in mind that things like impulse control aren't fully developed until maybe a young person his their 20s despite a reasonable knowledge and understanding of consequences beause the brain hasn't developed to the point where you have that control.

True, but with adult knowledge you'd theoretically possess the awareness of that fact, which complicates the issue. You'd understand your own nature more than any child has ever been able to - THEY have trouble processing ideas because they can't conceive of or process the knowledge that leads to specific conclusions, but a mind full of adult memories is coming with a personality that has already processed those conclusions. At best, you're basically an adult in a child body. At worst, you wind up hopelessly insane (and thus the hypothetical scenario is kind of pointless, which seems to run counter to what the question implies).

To be perfectly frank, in order to retain your prior memories at all, your brain structure would pretty much HAVE to be at an adult level, so what we're talking about is more like dropping an adult brain into an infant body (somehow, size issues being ignored), than it is somehow "pouring" memories into a child brain (because that's not how brains work).

The only real way around it is if you assume the "mind" or "soul" exists beyond the brain, but if we do that it negates the body/biology problem anyway.

To go for another analogy, a child brain is like a strand of wool, while an adult mind is a massive tapestry filled with intricate designs. If you try to unweave the tapestry to become a single strand of wool again, you lose all the memories (the designs), so the only way to preserve the memories is to preserve the overall structure. But because personality is a product of that structure filtered through biochemical reactions, "you" would still be "YOU" (at least until time and the constant onslaught of foreign neurochemistry and hormones slowly reshaped you into someone else).

But we tend to implicitly accept the idea that personality changes over time (the "me" I am today isn't necessarily the same "me" I was 30 years ago, nor the same "me" I will potentially be 30 years from now), so I feel like reliving your way through life again already carries the implicit understanding that you won't necessarily STAY the same you you are now through the entire process.

A reborn female 42-year old me who lived through 42 years of life (exploiting my memories and changing tons of things) isn't going to be the same as 42 year old me NOW, even without the added complications of female hormones and a potentially slightly different balance of neurotransmitters (though I'd say the premise assumes you're as close to the "you" you are now as possible, so only sex-influenced biochemistry should change). Her life experience would be too different.

But at the point of rebirth, when she's still an infant with almost no experiential deviation from my baseline, if she retains ALL of my current memories, she essentially starts with my current personality.

(Of course, we can also get into things like transmigration of consciousness and continuity of identity, but then we get into the old "Does a Star Trek transporter kill you?" discussion. The answer is "Yes".)
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wolfy42 posted...

Sadly, I often forget what game I was playing the previous day.

You might want to see a doctor.
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Yeah, but do you remember exactly when the best time to invest in Apple or Google is? And when you should dump for maximum benefit?

Also keep in mind, manipulating the market that way will absolutely alter the ebb and flow of the economy - move enough money over a long enough period of time, and you may start to change history without even realizing it.
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FrozenBananas posted...

Jesus PO

D:

That's the curse of being clever/responsible/old. You start thinking through the actual potential consequences of things and not just leaping the moment you go "Kewl!"

The "reborn with memories" scenario works a lot better if you just relive your entire childhood again without memories, then "inherit" them from yourself when you turn 18 or so, but that still leaves you unable to really alter your own personality development (which would almost certainly be different for a gender-swapped version of you) or effectively guide your social life without coming across like a weirdo.
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I just feel like jokes are stupider in the social media age, because almost nothing happens organically and nearly everything is just a lame forced meme.

So it's not so much that I get tired of jokes faster, as much as I don't find them funny in the first place.
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It's normal, but it's also not necessarily mandatory, or even "correct".

If you're relatively happy (or at least content) your whole life without having a partner, then that's perfectly acceptable, even if society has a vested interest in constantly telling you that you're not a fulfilled person unless you get married and have kids.

Especially when other things that used to be accepted as "mandatory" to lead a fulfilling life - owning a house, being part of a religious community, leaving behind some "legacy", etc - are generally falling out of favor with a lot of younger people.
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The one thing people never really consider when it comes to the whole idea of living your life again is that you're going to be seriously messed up for a long time.

For your first couple years you're going to have the psychological trauma of being fully self-aware but unable to move or form words properly (it's not just brain development but also physical development you'll lack). Shitting yourself, relying on adults to feed you (with no real say in the matter), spending most of your time just staring at walls until they start letting you watch TV (though even then you won't have a say in what to watch, and a lot of it will suck for a long time). And you'll have to spend most of your time knowing about major events in advance yet never admitting to that, or otherwise your parents will start thinking you're possessed or something (which you technically would be).

Once you get to school, the other kids are going to find you incredibly creepy - you'll basically be an adult in a child body. You'll never connect with anyone the way you (hopefully) did in real life, because you won't relate to any of them and they'll be weirded out by you. You're going to have a full decade of having no friends, of having teachers who feel uneasy around you, and relearning material you already know (you can potentially benefit here by being a Doogie Houser-type kid and leapfrog grades and graduate years earlier, but there's a limit to how much you can get away with - no one is going to let you go to college at age 8 even if you seem to know all the material).

Once you get to actual adulthood, things will level out - you can always move to some place you've never been before, and interact with people who never knew you as a kid (and you don't have prior life memories of that will constantly get in the way and make you seem like a creepy stalker). To entirely new people, you'll seem like a relatively normal adult (unless you've been super-traumatized by the last 20 years and it blatantly shows). But that also means giving up every friend you currently have in life, no matter how much you like them (it also means all of your foreknowledge won't be all that useful when it comes to your personal life, just financially).

Also, you'll still have to be very careful about hiding the fact that you know things in advance. Go around warning people about 9/11 before it happens and you're likely to get arrested for being involved.

The other problem people don't consider is that they blithely accept the idea that "Welp, guess I'll be gay then", but that's also going to radically impact your potential dating situation (if you think you had trouble getting dates in your normal life, imagine what it will be like when your pool of potential partners is 1/4th to 1/10th the size and most of them feel the need to hide their preferences to some degree), and if you're old enough, it's going to have you "growing up" in a time when the social stigma for being gay is still fairly strong (my slightly older cousin who grew up in the 70s/80s didn't feel comfortable coming out until he was nearly 30 - even when he was living with his boyfriend they'd pass it off as them just being "friends", even though most people knew full well what the situation was). Of course, if you're full-bi you could probably get away with it a bit easier, or if you're gay now it would potentially be a plus (the same for people who are trans or at least aspire to be to some degree).



xjayguyx posted...

Yup I'll be one ultra rich lesbian :)

Not necessarily. While you think you'll be able to bet, invest, or invent your way to success, keep in mind that the average person doesn't remember the exact results of all THAT many sporting events (and will look suspicious if they start to constantly win anyway). And that, while it's easy to say "I'm going to invent Google" (or Facebook, or the iPhone, or whatever), it's a lot harder to actually do, and do in a way that will be as successful as it was naturally.

Sure, you could potentially profit if you're very clever and very careful, but not necessarily so much so that you'll be top of Forbes 500. And that's before you even start to get into things like systemic discrimination in most of the business world that will restrict you to some degree. Or the fact that you'll have to spend the first 15 years or so of life reliving your childhood, and better hope you don't start forgetting important names and dates if you're planning to exploit gambling or investing.

(And let's not even get into the potential problems you're going to face if we live in a Butterfly Effect chaotic universe, where the moment you start doing things differently in your life it immediately beings rippling outwards and radically changing history in major and unpredictable ways, so by the time you're a teenager everything's pretty much happening differently anyway. If that's the case, this whole scenario is kind of screwed.)

That being said, if whoever is offering you this deal gives you time to make preparations, then you could really beat the system. Do a little research, go back and find a huge lotto/Powerball payout and memorize the numbers (though again, hope you remember every number even after 15 years or so of childhood).
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HornedLion posted...

lick our chomps.

For all intensive purposes, they're a diamond dozen.
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darkknight109 posted...

because no one does blazing incompetence quite like this administration

Except multiple previous administrations in quite a number of cases.

Most of human history is a litany of people fucking things up spectacularly. It's just getting harder and harder to cover things up in the modern digital age.

Fortunately, the modern digital age is also making it less and less likely that anyone will actually give a fuck, so it all sort of balances out.
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"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family