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twitterfriends posted...

It was edited... it was mistranslated... it was photoshop... you guys will come up with anything to back peddle on this but you can't hate on Norway for speaking the truth though

I already said I agree that the cost of healthcare in america stinks, I'm simply pointing out that you're spreading misinformation, the Norwegion University of Science and Technology was referring to America's infrastructure, the way we lack public transportation which can make it hard for people to get to an airport if they lack a car. Which would be relevant for their students in America (it was a norwegian college making this post, not a government official)

They've also edited it since then

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No they didn't. That was a mistranslation.

And already been posted.

That said yes America's healthcare is terrible. But stop spreading this mistranslation.

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WesternMedia posted...

Norway being nationalistic smh

Does everybody have me on ignore in here or something? This is sensationalist mistranslation, Norway was not being nationalistic and they weren't insulting America's healthcare. It's a crappy mistranslation that, while true, is only being interpreted as an insult because somebody messed up the translation. norway was not "burning" america, the translator was.

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that was a mistranslation, they were specifically referring to america's lack of public transportation not our health infrastructure. Although that is bad

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Putting it on D+ three months early will lose a lot of DVD sales but it's getting them a lot of press and I think tons of people are gonna watch it now that they're staying home and reading headlines about it being pushed early.

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No he won't, but overall he will be remembered favorably. Lincoln is in the top three most venerated presidents I would say.

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I went to a bathroom at a theater today and some fuck came out of a stall after having taken a shit and left without bothering to wash his hands.

Some things never change

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obviously they are going to have to make up the missed days

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Tissues have been sold out in my store for the past week.

Stop telling people to buy tissues. I actually need them for my nose.

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Download the DQ XI demo, it contains the first hours of the game and if you decide you want the full game you can continue the demo right into the full version.

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DQ XI S is the most obvious answer.

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Mimichan posted...

Bad. My parents are boomers and I love them.

qft

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Coronavirus doesn't really give you sniffles. it takes 30 seconds to google the symptoms

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eggcorn posted...

What do you propose to do for people living paycheck to paycheck?

good question, there would need to be a hold on evictions for people who can't pay rent as a result of this hypothetical quarantine. Utilities also. I don't know how it would be handled long-term

The consequences of letting the virus run rampant would be severe to be sure. If quarantining America is how we could prevent the virus from spreading to 50+% of americans (which would result in many deaths) then surely it's worth it. But we aren't experts, this is just my guess of course.

On another note it's so dumb that Mike Pence was put in charge of handling this.

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If you mean without bringing somebody else to the theater with me -- I can't remember

If you mean when there was literally nobody else in the entire theater watching the movie -- the muppets in 2011, and I sang along to the songs since nobody was there

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If we are going to quarantine then we need to do it ASAP due to the exponential nature of the spread of disease. Even one day makes a massive difference.

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I'm not worried about dying but I am worried about finding a job in the next three months, which is how long I can go without more money.

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I'm unperturbed as long as Nintendo still makes their E3 video which I'm sure they'll do.

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Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump#Presidency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#Political_positions

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Tenlaar posted...

...being afraid that they'll kill anybody they get close to with their uncontrollable super powers?

lol I mean we have been accused of being the cause of natural disasters like Katrina or the Haiti earthquake in 2010

But it's more about how she was taught to conceal something about herself from everybody even though it is tearing her up inside and ruining her relationships with loved ones. She is outed in front of everybody, flees in shame and fear, and eventually realizes it was something to celebrate, not to hide or fear.

It resonated with a lot of people, not just the gays, which is why Elsa is such a popular character.

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MaverickXeo posted...

Those statements are JUST as common for same sex partners. In every day conversation though, it is rare for someone to learn of a sexual partner. I don't tell the store clerks about my partners - much like we should not always know a person's orientation over a 2.5 hour movie.

Dude

It's way more common than you realize. Only this evening, two straight people I'd never met before brought their partners up somehow into unrelated conversations, plus at least five-ish people I spoke to on the phone while at work today. You spend 2 hours in a movie about a character and there's a good chance the existence of their relationship is gonna come up. Love and relationships are a huge part of our lives. It's silly to act like that's far-fetched.

MaverickXeo posted...

Does Elsa need to have a relationship? Just because a character exists does not mean they need to be defined by their sexuality.

The reason people speculated about Elsa is mainly because her story in Frozen closely parallels the experience many gay people have.

And just because a character happens to be in a relationship doesn't mean that character is defined just by their sexuality. Nobody ever wastes breath complaining that Iron Man is defined by his sexuality just because he's straight.

Some characters ARE basically nothing more than their sexuality (straight characters in particular--so many straight characters in movies are there just to exist as a bland nondescript partner for the main character). Sometimes it's not even a bad thing for a character to be mostly defined by their sexuality, because some people IRL really are like that.

But then whenever a character is openly gay in mainstream media...people get weird about it

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MaverickXeo posted...

Do gay (or straight) people in public often flaunt their sexuality? I am straight, but I don't go around saying I am straight. There are those who are big on PDA, but most people don't really show their relationships openly.

Straight people don't realize how often they disclose their sexuality in casual conversation.

A straight guy says "I'll just have my girlfriend pick me up" nobody gives a second thought

Any time I'm saying something like that to someone new I pause first to decide whether they're gonna react weirdly, because I KNOW in their head they're gonna be thinking about how I just revealed I'm not straight.

If you're in a relationship, yes it's very quickly gonna come up in casual conversation unless you specifically go out of your way to obfuscate.

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MaverickXeo posted...

There are plenty of characters that COULD BE gay but aren't shown as such. It is more common to see a straight person in media (probably because there are more straight people in the world overall), but just because a person does not openly state they are gay or straight does not mean they are or are not either.

invisible media representation = no media representation

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FakeHoax posted...

Remember when movies were for entertainment and not an agenda?

I'm gay and I exist.

I guess I shouldn't place myself in anybody else's life since that would be forcing an agenda onto them

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To the people complaining that this is making headlines:

the only reason it's making headlines is because it's uncommon for gay characters to be leading characters in blockbuster movies. So far companies like Disney have not yet made any major movies that star an openly gay character.

When it becomes commonplace, people will naturally stop writing articles about it (since it won't be anything new) and you can then stop whining and act like a normal person.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8zNsUTWsOc

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what the hell. This thing doesn't really even cause a runny nose. Some of us have allergies and actually need tissues constantly

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MrMallard posted...

What site, stormfront?

No, it's a Reddit clone, it looks the exact same but it's independent. They post links to it everywhere.

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It's like when people save a deer that got stuck inside a fence and then it goes and immediately runs into the fence again lol

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Hexenherz posted...

Is it because they all jumped ship to a spin-off site after the moderator purge?

No, the subreddit is unusable right now, all you can do is comment on existing posts.

They are using that other site in the mean time, but of course only a small fraction of people who normally use the_donald took the time to make an account on the other site. If the subreddit reopened again now under the same old management I'm sure it would quickly get back to where it was. But it isn't gonna have the same old management, and who knows how different it'll be under the new mods. The admins are obviously sick of dealing with that subreddit and are probably just gonna ban it soon enough. Which as far as I'm concerned would be a good thing.

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I think it's coming up on 2 weeks. They finally cracked down on the subreddit. I wonder if they're just struggling to find new moderators and if the place will ever reopen.

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Yeah sometimes sports fans think it's ok to incorporate their bigotry into their cheers and jeers. It shouldn't be tolerated

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I'm seeing some articles say it was using his tinder pics and others say it was using his grindr pics. Either way it doesn't matter since it's obvious they were playing on homophobia by telling him to stick to grindr.

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E32005 posted...

are you equating trump to an outdated peripheral?

no, they're equating trump to hypocritical marketers/designers/executives

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Toy Story 2 is probably my favorite but I think all of the first three could contend for that spot arguably.

TS 4 is my least favorite but it's still ok.

btw is it by coincidence that you made this a few minutes after my topic about ranking ts movies?

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IMO

2 > 1 = 3 > 4

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A lot of the time when there's a topic here with more than a hundred replies, I find it's just a handful of people having bitter arguments with each other (everybody else at that point has left the topic alone). And if I try to chime in, it's usually a waste of time because the only people reading the topic at that point are those people in an argument. The average person isn't gonna click through all the way to page 7 of an argument and see my opinion.

It's gotten to the point where if a thread already has more than two pages or so I sometimes don't even bother entering even though I would if it had fewer replies.

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It's not a good sign for Pixar's first original concept movie for two years. So far its performance is on par with Doolittle from what I've heard. I think their movie Soul looks potentially more interesting. And I'm guessing they will greenlight another Incredibles movie given how well the last one did.

I've heard good things about Onward and will watch it despite not being very excited about it personally.

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It's shaping up to be Pixar's lowest-grossing movie.

I don't think it can be blamed all on the virus, either (definitely not in America at least). Compare its numbers to other movies' performances that are currently out (including family fare) and it's just kind of floundering compared to normal Pixar releases.

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PokemonExpert44 posted...

Again, the context in these verses here doesn't say that Jesus allowed slavery. He fought against it

Dude

The bible literally says multiple times "slaves, obey your masters" in no uncertain terms. In the new testament. As direct instructions to the reader. Along with lots of other slave passages. Not in some weird contexts that would negate them.

It's unambiguous. The bible is an AWFUL book to try to use as a source of moral authority.

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I need to stock up on Kit kat bars

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Here are some other parts:

Colossians 3:22-25

18 Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.
19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.
20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord.
21 Fathers,[c] do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged.
22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord. 23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, 24 since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. 25 Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for their wrongs, and there is no favoritism.

Timothy 6:1-2 (the very start of this passage)

All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that Gods name and our teaching may not be slandered. 2 Those who have believing masters should not show them disrespect just because they are fellow believers. Instead, they should serve them even better because their masters are dear to them as fellow believers and are devoted to the welfare[a] of their slaves.

Titus 2:9-10

9 Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them, 10 and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive.

I've posted the sources so you can feel free to examine the context in which they were written. All of these quoted segments come from the New Testament, I didn't even go into the old testament.

The bible endorses slavery. Owning another human as property

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puppy posted...

Again, context, but those with a heart to destroy the Word of God will never really research that part of it.

PokemonExpert44 posted...

Those verses don't support slavery in the bible. You just posted them out of context, too

-_- You claim that context would make "slaves obey your master" acceptable, but clearly didn't actually examine it yourself to see if it WOULD help any. Because it doesn't. And there isn't really any context where saying "slaves obey your masters" would be ok unless it was followed by "is a terrible thing to say"

The verses I quoted come from a section of the bible called Ephesians which was written by the apostle Paul. It is not part of a story, it's a section of the bible called the New Testament Household Code, also titled Instructions for Christian Living. In it, Paul gives instructions for certain two-person relationships, including child-parent, slave-master, and this segment about wife-husband relationships (ephesians 5: 22-24):

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Be still my beating heart.

But I encourage you to examine the section yourself so you can see it in context. (Which doesn't make it look any better)

Here is the verse in question, look at the verses before it and around it to see the context. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+6&version=NIV;KJV

And then remember this is only one example of the bible's endorsement of slavery, I only mentioned this one as an example because it comes from the New Testament. There are many other parts of the bible that endorse slavery.

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PokemonExpert44 posted...

The Bible doesn't endorse or regulate slavery.

Yes it does, it tells you whom to enslave and how you can do it and how you can treat them. It even says you can beat them as long as they don't die within a few days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery

And in case you say "i don't care about the old testament" it endorses it in the New Testament, not just the old one. Here's one example from the new testament. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+6%3A5-9&version=NIV;KJV

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

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EffectAndCause posted...

sounds like they deserved it

Who? The coworkers whose roles at the company went into a ditch as a result of the leaker, instead of getting to work on what turned out to be Splatoon?

I don't see how you can say it sounds like they deserved it, especially when you don't know what they were upset about exactly

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I never said it gets everything wrong. But I can't possibly imagine taking any book that endorses and regulates slavery (just one example) as any sort of moral authority just because it may have gotten certain other questions right. Would you?

Morality is hard to find sometimes but the way to find it is by using reason and empathy, not by listening to what the bible or another religious book tells us. Especially when it gets so many things COMPLETELY wrong.

When it comes to questions of morality, the bible's opinions are not worth heeding at all. We should study the bible and other religious texts for a historical perspective to understand how things used to work and what values people used to have. But it is NOT a source of morality, it's just a list of dictations from people thousands of years ago, showing their values at the time.

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Anteaterking posted...

So wait are you trying to argue this from a perspective where Christianity is true or not?

Because I'm saying that from a perspective where it's false, "It was more progressive than the rest of the culture at the time, but not as much as we are now" is a dumb argument.

Not sure what exactly you're asking.

But what I'm saying is it shows how obviously terrible the bible is at telling us how to behave, and that there's no reason to treat it as any kind of moral authority (which many people still do)

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Anteaterking posted...

The point was that the rapist made her un-marriable and so to make up for it he had to marry her.

Yeah I know what the point was. Even taking that into account it's still dumb. because it implies that having been raped makes you "soiled goods" and doubles down on the dumbness by making you marry your rapist. all it does is show how backwards society was then and there.

he's GOD, he could just say "don't rape people, and don't look down at people for having been raped." There are people who nowadays literally defend this part of the bible as if god had a good reason to endorse those values

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