Lurker > joe40001

kkTheKiller42 posted...

Lol from what i read from this topic

"LMAO just leave you idiot"

Its never that easy

She eventually did leave the relationship so clearly it was possible.

I don't get what you are arguing, she should've stayed because it's too hard to leave?
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Paper_Okami posted...

joe40001 posted...

That's an excuse.

Fine, it's hard. They still should get the fuck out. It's insulting to them to imply they don't have that agency.

yup, you don't get it
It has been explained to you a million times and you refuse to understand

What has been explained?

"It's hard"

Ok, so what? Are you saying they should stay in relationships where they are physically abused then?
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Vol2tex posted...

I tried explaining it to him: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78204845/930874807

I personally know women who have gone through abusive relationships and I'm trying to communicate that point of view, but I don't think he is understanding.

That's because you aren't giving these people credit. You tell a person they are a helpless victim long enough they are going to believe it. You should be on my side because I want to tell people they have the power to leave shitty situations.

You are almost justifying them not leaving, like them staying in a relationship where they are abused is fair or right in some way.

IMO that's messed up.

If you are being abused in a relationship you should leave, I don't care if it's hard, lots of shit is hard. Lots of shit way less important than not being physically abused is harder than that.

It's like I'm saying "drug addicts should find whatever resources they can and stop doing drugs" and you are saying "but it's really hard".

It being "hard" doesn't contradict my point at all.
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DrizztLink posted...

joe40001 posted...

It's not trivial to leave but if somebody is abusing you, you owe it to yourself to get the fuck out. I think it's more destructive to come up with a bunch of excuses for people in abusive relationships to stay.

We're not coming up with excuses, we're trying to explain to you that it's not that fucking easy.

That's an excuse.

Fine, it's hard. They still should get the fuck out. It's insulting to them to imply they don't have that agency.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

joe40001 posted...

If she looked like that I'd insert myself into her "fellowship of the ring" iykwim

I bet that sounded funnier in your head before you posted it

Not really, I'm just in a idgaf mood
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Lairen posted...

joe40001 posted...

If she looked like that I'd insert myself into her "fellowship of the ring" iykwim

"Id bang my own daughter"

This is an imaginary world, none of this is real. There's no way I could have an adult daughter anyway.
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

joe40001 posted...

What makes you think he has "no idea how automation works"?

None of the claims he's made about automation are backed up by data. He's lucky his supporters have a poor understanding of economics.

Do you have any specific examples?
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

joe40001 posted...

How does he "lack a deep platform"?

Yang has no idea how automation works and based his entire campaign around it.

He's your perennial internet candidate that reddit types fawn over.

What makes you think he has "no idea how automation works"?
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If she looked like that I'd insert myself into her "fellowship of the ring" iykwim
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He sounds...
https://i.imgur.com/wsyimYm.jpg
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Paper_Okami posted...

joe40001 posted...

Women are people, people can make choices. They aren't prisoners, they aren't hostages. It is horrible they ever experienced any abuse, but the moment that shit starts you need to gtfo.

stop posting and read the fucking link

I did already. It's a bunch of shit like "your preacher might make you feel bad" or "there might be children involved with the relationship"

Tons of shit that didn't apply to her. In any case I don't get the point of saying "it's impossible, it's way too hard" when she clearly was able to leave the relationship just fine.

It's not trivial to leave but if somebody is abusing you, you owe it to yourself to get the fuck out. I think it's more destructive to come up with a bunch of excuses for people in abusive relationships to stay.
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Women are people, people can make choices. They aren't prisoners, they aren't hostages. It is horrible they ever experienced any abuse, but the moment that shit starts you need to gtfo.
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I dislike how things can show stuff normal movies can't just because themselves "art"

Like "Bitch, everything is art, get out from your own ass"
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HagenEx posted...

I liked the ambience and the backstory of all the different characters, but I have to agree that the gameplay in Dead Money is the worst out of all DLC.

Enemies are annoying, the traps are annoying, the alarms are annoying, everything is annoying.

My favorite is still Old World Blues.

I think everybody's favorite is OWB
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Pizza b...?

You know what I probably don't want to know.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

joe40001 posted...

If you fear for your life, involve others and the police. If not then just leave.

Again, it's not that easy.

Why not?
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What art films?
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Anteaterking posted...

cuttin_in_farm posted...

UBI is statistically more useful than tax the rich! Or raising the minimum wage.

What exactly are you trying to convey here?

cuttin_in_farm posted...

His proposal to up the income of presidents etc but banning them from leeching afterwards makes sense.

I don't think many people have objected to this, but the fact that this is your second policy point from him indicates part of the problem: He's basically solely running on UBI.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

He doesnt just throw insults. He backups his answers. No politic dodging crap.

These aren't really arguments for why people should vote for him.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Whats the deal? He seems completely fit. Is it the lack of political experience?

Lack of political experience, lack of a deep platform, leaning into all of the memes surrounding him, etc.

How does he "lack a deep platform"?
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I did enjoy Escaping with literally all the gold and not killing the guy, you better believe I slow as fuck took my over-encumbered ass across the entire mojave desert to get my gold back to my house
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lilORANG posted...

joe40001 posted...

DrizztLink posted...

joe40001 posted...

It is shitty. The first time somebody abuses you you need to get the fuck on and report them to the police.

It really sucks that happened to her.

It isn't that easy, unfortunately.

Why not?

Leaving abusive relationships is tricky, and victims are often in more danger once they've left because the kind of controlling assholes that resort to domestic abuse snap when they realize someone isn't taking their shit anymore.

If you fear for your life, involve others and the police. If not then just leave.
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MajinPhil is my favorite MM runner, he does awesome randomizer runs
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Vol2tex posted...

My point was that, I get that you and others are frustrated not being with women, but you shouldn't minimize these situations by claiming that women can easily leave and get another guy quickly. Relationships are more complex than you're presenting them as, things such as emotional manipulation can cause a woman to lose self-worth and stay with the guy. As she herself said:

Benoist recalled the first assault, during which she said her partner threw a smoothie at her face.

"I was more worried about the furniture than I was about the fact that I had just been abused," she said.

"The stark truth is I learned what it felt like to be pinned down and slapped repeatedly, punched so hard the wind was knocked out of me, dragged by my hair across pavement, headbutted, pinched till my skin broke, shoved into a wall so hard the drywall broke, choked."

She added: "I learned not to value myself."

But it sounds like you're blaming these women for choosing these guys in the first place. The reality is that the guys are great in the beginning, it's not that they were abusing these women the first week of dating. They slowly manipulate and abuse these women until it gets to the point that she was experiencing. By then, they are in a vulnerable psychological predicament and can't just get up and leave so easily.

I doubt somebody capable of that level of abuse was "great in the beginning"

Even so I don't get why you want to say these people have 0 accountability. If you are in a shitty relationship with an abusive person you need to leave and report them if possible. It's as simple as that.

Women are just people, they aren't these fickle flowers that need your defending, if anybody is in a bad relationship they need to get the fuck out, and if physical violence was involved they need to report that shit, it's as simple as that.

If you want to pretend that all women are helpless children who can't be accountable for anything and need somebody to save them because they are too weak or whatever to leave and report abuse you can do that, but I won't cosign that shit at all.
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DrizztLink posted...

joe40001 posted...

It is shitty. The first time somebody abuses you you need to get the fuck on and report them to the police.

It really sucks that happened to her.

It isn't that easy, unfortunately.

Why not?
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"joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori
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It is shitty. The first time somebody abuses you you need to get the fuck on and report them to the police.

It really sucks that happened to her.
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Pepys Monster posted...

Question for you, TC: Would you accept a girl who isn't that pretty, but is nice and cares about you? Like she's not super ugly. But she sure isn't a 10/10 Instagram model.

Yes absolutely

I would want somebody who is dating me because they like me, so if somebody is dating me only because they are desperate or because they are trying to get back at and old ex or something I wouldn't like that.

But yeah who you are describing is like all I'd want or hope for, I don't even know if I'd want to date a 10/10 instagram model.
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Conflict posted...

Well, nothing I say is going to have an effect, so that's something you'll have to consult with a therapist

Still I appreciate talking to people.

I honestly haven't had a lot of luck with my current therapist, I don't know if they like me, and every time I ask for help or guidance they just ask me the same question I asked them.

Me: "I feel completely empty inside all the time, I really want to feel better, what should I do?"
Them: "What do you think you should do?"
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Conflict posted...

joe40001 posted...

If every 20lbs I lost mattered I would have lost it all by now. But truth is, I can lose 20lbs and it doesn't matter at all, nobody notices and I get to feel 0% better about myself.

Ok, I see part of your problem

Are you losing weight solely for other people to notice, or are you losing weight for yourself

If you don't feel content with at least making progress towards an evidently difficult and long-term goal, you're never going to make it there.

How can I feel content about it?

It feels like it doesn't matter.

I don't know how to feel self-esteem.
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Vol2tex posted...

@joe40001

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/28/entertainment/supergirl-melissa-benoist-domestic-violence-intl-scli/index.html

What would you say about that?

That's really shitty, it's horrible she had that experience, and she should've dumped his ass sooner, but either way it is shitty.

What am I supposed to say?

How is it my fault that there are shitty men out there that some women date?
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Fuparulez posted...

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Fuparulez posted...

Because of simple mathematics. He wants to give everyone over the age of 18 a thousand bucks a month. That's $12,000 per year for 240 million people. That's $2880000000000. $2,880,000,000,000. 2.9 trillion dollars. For perspective, the entire federal budget is just under four trillion dollars, and the GDP, the entire economic output of the nation, is $20 trillion. He wants to hijack a solid fifteen percent of the economy and give it away.

That's the problem with these Democrats, Warren and Yang especially. The smart Democrats never commit to figures, because once they do, everyone from left of center on right realize how unfeasible it is. No, these multi trillion dollar plans are never happening, because somebody actually has to pay for this stuff.

If the government can bail out banks in 08, how am I gonna believe they cannot fund this with his VAT tax thing?

You're demonstrating exactly what I just said, with a further lack of understanding of basic economics. The bank bailout was a one time 700 billion dollar thing. Yang wants to spend 3,000 billion.... every single year. Knock some zeroes off and let's make a relevant example. If you can afford a one time $70 bill, does that mean you can afford a $300 regular bill? Of course not.

I'm not trying to be insulting, but you are very plainly demonstrating that you just don't grasp numbers beyond one million. A billion is a thousand millions and a trillion is a million millions. A million dollars in $100 bills can fit in a backpack. A trillion dollars would need a massive warehouse.

Then there's the VAT. Who pays a VAT? Yes, everyone, and it hits the lowest income people the hardest because they spend the largest portion of their income on hard goods. "We're going to help the poor by raising their cost of living!" Yeah, that makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwzIp-4QGCE#t=3m20s

There's a video explaining how it's paid for.

And do you really think people gaining 1k a month would "lose out" somehow? They'd have to spend like 120k a year on VAT taxed goods and all the tax would have to 100% be passed onto consumers (even though the entire premise of capitalism is that people will try to lower prices to be competitive, as we see amazon do all the time)

There's just no way most american don't come out way ahead on this.

It's one thing to think it's to expensive to implement (though I think that video does a good job dispelling that), but to act like poor people would lose out when gaining 1k a month is crazy
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hockeybub89 posted...

Because he has 1 to 2% at very best in any poll

That's not true. 3 of the last 6 national polls had him at 4% 2 of them at 3% and only one of them at 2%, also he's polled as high as 8%
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Cinematography
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Huffington Post is way worse than that chart suggests
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Please don't joke about I, Tonya this christmas
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"Suck it in, suck it in, suck it in
If you're Rin Tin Tin or Anne Boleyn
Make a desperate move or else you'll win
And then begin to see
What you're doing to me
This MTV is not for free
It's so PC it's killing me
So desperately I sing to thee of love
Sure but also rage and hate and pain and fear of self
And I can't keep these feeling on the shelf
I've tried, well no, in fact I lied
Could be financial suicide but I've got too much pride inside
To hide or slide
I'll do as I'll decide and let it ride till until I've died
And only then shall I abide by this tide
Of catchy little tunes
Of hip three minute diddies
I wanna bust all your balloons
I wanna burn of all your cities to the ground
But I've found, I will not mess around
Unless I play then hey
I will go on all day
Hear what I say
I have a prayer to pray
That's really all this was
And when I'm feeling stuck and need a buck
I don't rely on luck
Because the hook brings you back"
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Lyrically such a brilliant song
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I don't know if I've had one
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Dude, she's like 16, wtf?
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JuanCarlos1 posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

Rebel_Patriot posted...

Well its not real so I dont see why it matters

Putting on my grown up hat: I feel like it can give some bad ideas to younger, not quite mentally developed teens and shit.

A lot of dudes already grow up thinking sex is like it is in porn alrwsdy as it is.

I watch porn, I'm not hating on it, but yeah

Right. I'm afraid of the repercussions of young kids these days having so readily easy access to porn and get into hardcore stuff at such an early age. Like a piece of paper with boobs was a big deal when I was 12....would probably not do much for kids with pornhub access on their cellphones.

I do agree kids these days are going to be messed up, and it's only made worse by enabling parents.
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pres_madagascar posted...

Rebel_Patriot posted...

Well its not real so I dont see why it matters

Putting on my grown up hat: I feel like it can give some bad ideas to younger, not quite mentally developed teens and shit.

A lot of dudes already grow up thinking sex is like it is in porn alrwsdy as it is.

I watch porn, I'm not hating on it, but yeah

Young teens can't watch porn! Haven't you seen those things that ask if you are 18 before letting you use the site?
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specialkid8 posted...

Come on man, I just replaced that window.

The window could've been open
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im not 13 posted...

I mean, I don't doubt there are sickos that like that type of stuff but how honestly do you get authenticity that the individuals are related? (Aside from twins ofc)

I think TC is talking about how lots of mainstream stuff says 1 line somewhere of "I'm only your step-mom".

But like Cory Chase has tons of stuff that is definitely supposed to be pretend real md ms fmd etc and she's super mainstream
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Are you kidding? There's tons of BS MS FD stuff out there.

Even on mainstream sites.

Porn trends wait for no man, the future is here, TC
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That's not that creepy
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Conflict posted...

By setting goals, pursuing them and not comparing yourself to other peers. If they're especially long-term goals (like losing weight) you also have to be content with progress and the fact you're doing it at all.

Most of the answer to that question is completely dependent on you and what exactly it is you want.

I want to be better. I don't want to be alone forever.

It hurts too much
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If every 20lbs I lost mattered I would have lost it all by now. But truth is, I can lose 20lbs and it doesn't matter at all, nobody notices and I get to feel 0% better about myself.
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Crash posted...

Also, Joe, how are you honestly still so fat? This is a serious question. I remember you doing keto for a while, and you seemed to have great results on it. Have you stopped trying again?

Depression makes weight loss hard, trust me on that.

But even so, yeah I've lost 60lbs, but that still leaves 80lbs to go. I'm still a fat fuck after putting in lots of effort and making lots of progress.

Hell even after losing 150lbs people could still call me a fat fuck and not be wrong.

So it's hard to make progress when even a long ass time of good progress fundamentally doesn't change your state.
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Conflict posted...

Being happy with yourself is not a prerequisite for getting into a relationship, but being content with yourself can help you combat the idea that you're undateable

How can I be happy with myself?

I really don't know how I can objectively do that
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Crash posted...

threetimes posted...

Expand your social networks. Volunteer - animal shelter, food bank, conservation project, political campaign. Start a new learning course- a language class, a computer class, cooking, or art class. Attend a specific exercise group that's not too strenuous and might have others in a similar situation. I was overweight and bored with myself, and started going to a tai chi and pilates class, joined a choir, learnt german and went to political meetings. soon met new people and made friends. Don't think about yourself, or girls in particular, just concentrate on having a more active life.

He won't do any of this.

He'll make the same topic next year because he'll be in the exact same situation he's in now.

We've been giving him solid advice for over a decade and he never, ever listens to it.

I do a lot of stuff, but I doubt many if any people here actually work at an animal shelter, that seems more like shit you tell depressed people so you can give them shit in 5 years when they don't do it. I don't begrudge threetimes for offering that advice. He's trying to help.

But yeah as a depressed person who struggles to find enough meaning to wake up each morning I'm not likely to take up a life of constant dog shelter work. If that makes my isolation "all my fault" then so be it I guess. But I sincerely doubt that most people who aren't struggling with loneliness constantly dedicate themselves to working at food/dog shelters.

Agian though, I don't begrudge threetimes, because they were just trying to help.
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powerman1426 posted...

Being happy with yourself would be the best place to start. Make the changes you need to make for you, not for others. Start with what you feel needs done, the rest will come as you build confidence.

How can I be happy with myself? What excuse would I have to like myself?
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I'm depressed as fuck. I'm not an alcoholic.

Between July and November how many times did normal healthy people drink? Several.

How many times did I drink? 0

I get it, alcohol doesn't help, I agree. But I'm already very low, I don't see the value of trying to knock me down more pegs.

Also I've been cutting back calories like crazy for almost 2 months now, and been going to the gym more often, but when you are fat that shit is humilating, so I apologize if I can only stomach being humiliated 6 times a month.

I guess I'm a bit frustrated because it's like "your problems would be better, joe, if you just did X" and I've been doing X for months.

I don't know, I just know I'm hurt and alone, and I've been that way forever
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