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joe40001 11/29/19 6:37:59 PM #51:	Broseph_Stalin posted... joe40001 posted... What makes you think he has "no idea how automation works"? None of the claims he's made about automation are backed up by data. He's lucky his supporters have a poor understanding of economics. Do you have any specific examples? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:930882077] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>What makes you think he has "no idea how automation works"?</quote>None of the claims he's made about automation are backed up by data. He's lucky his supporters have a poor understanding of economics. </quote> Do you have any specific examples?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 11/29/19 6:41:56 PM #52:	don't bother arguing with Joe guys --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:930882241] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>don't bother arguing with Joe guys </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/29/19 6:56:06 PM #53:	joe40001 posted... Do you have any specific examples? If automation killed jobs we'd obviously see higher unemployment and productivity. Instead we have full employment and flat productivity. Yang was once questioned on this by an economist and had no answer. This leaves him with only predictions about the future and how many jobs it will kill, someday. But those "studies" are all based on asking engineers what task could possibly be automated. And why automation in the service sector is somehow different from the automation we saw in agriculture and industry, they can't say. Most of Yang's support seems to come from NEETS or those Reddit types who are dumber than the average person but think of themselves as exceptionally smart. They don't seem to understand the relationship between labor and automation. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:930882722] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>Do you have any specific examples?</quote> If automation killed jobs we'd obviously see higher unemployment and productivity. Instead we have full employment and flat productivity. Yang was once questioned on this by an economist and had no answer. This leaves him with only predictions about the future and how many jobs it will kill, someday. But those "studies" are all based on asking engineers what task could possibly be automated. And why automation in the service sector is somehow different from the automation we saw in agriculture and industry, they can't say. Most of Yang's support seems to come from NEETS or those Reddit types who are dumber than the average person but think of themselves as exceptionally smart. They don't seem to understand the relationship between labor and automation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 11/29/19 7:04:15 PM #54:	after Trump do we really need another political novice in office? --- "A superhero in the flesh, even at my worst I'm the best"-Big KRIT <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:930882992] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>after Trump do we really need another political novice in office?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 11/29/19 7:08:17 PM #55:	Maybe hes not as popular as the other candidates? Maybe thats why hes not on top of the polls? The only other explanation there can be is that the deep state is manipulating the polls & giving his supporters the wrong directions to his rallies, remember that the next time hes at a hall and more than half of it is empty. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:930883136] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>Maybe hes not as popular as the other candidates? Maybe thats why hes not on top of the polls? The only other explanation there can be is that the deep state is manipulating the polls & giving his supporters the wrong directions to his rallies, remember that the next time hes at a hall and more than half of it is empty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/29/19 7:08:53 PM #56:	I feel like Trump has destroyed the notion of a deep state --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:930883150] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>I feel like Trump has destroyed the notion of a deep state </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 11/29/19 7:11:16 PM #57:	Broseph_Stalin posted... joe40001 posted... Do you have any specific examples? If automation killed jobs we'd obviously see higher unemployment and productivity. Instead we have full employment and flat productivity. Yang was once questioned on this by an economist and had no answer. This leaves him with only predictions about the future and how many jobs it will kill, someday. But those "studies" are all based on asking engineers what task could possibly be automated. And why automation in the service sector is somehow different from the automation we saw in agriculture and industry, they can't say. Most of Yang's support seems to come from NEETS or those Reddit types who are dumber than the average person but think of themselves as exceptionally smart. They don't seem to understand the relationship between labor and automation. Ignoring your strawmen at the end, "once questioned by an economist" which one? What questions, because there have been several that endorse him. Elon Musk and lots of other people in the tech world second what Yang says about automation going to take away jobs, are they just "low IQ" NEETS as well? You are mostly arguing in very vague terms which obviously are hard to argue against, but that doesn't make them good points. I could say "some economist said your mom's face was dumb looking, and she had no answer, so it's true" but without saying who said it, what they said, etc. that's really not an argument. If you have concrete points I'd love to see them, but making strawmen and being vague isn't productive. There's tons of evidence that automation is a real risk to jobs, it takes 2 seconds of googling and you find a million well researched examples: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/25/these-workers-face-the-highest-risk-of-losing-their-jobs-to-automation.html So you are entitled to your political opinions, but IMO if they are mostly based around vagueness and name calling then you might not be any smarter than the "dumb reddit NEETs" you look down on. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:930883235] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>Do you have any specific examples?</quote> If automation killed jobs we'd obviously see higher unemployment and productivity. Instead we have full employment and flat productivity. Yang was once questioned on this by an economist and had no answer. This leaves him with only predictions about the future and how many jobs it will kill, someday. But those "studies" are all based on asking engineers what task could possibly be automated. And why automation in the service sector is somehow different from the automation we saw in agriculture and industry, they can't say. Most of Yang's support seems to come from NEETS or those Reddit types who are dumber than the average person but think of themselves as exceptionally smart. They don't seem to understand the relationship between labor and automation. </quote> Ignoring your strawmen at the end, "once questioned by an economist" which one? What questions, because there have been several that endorse him. Elon Musk and lots of other people in the tech world second what Yang says about automation going to take away jobs, are they just "low IQ" NEETS as well? You are mostly arguing in very vague terms which obviously are hard to argue against, but that doesn't make them good points. I could say "some economist said your mom's face was dumb looking, and she had no answer, so it's true" but without saying who said it, what they said, etc. that's really not an argument. If you have concrete points I'd love to see them, but making strawmen and being vague isn't productive. There's tons of evidence that automation is a real risk to jobs, it takes 2 seconds of googling and you find a million well researched examples: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/25/these-workers-face-the-highest-risk-of-losing-their-jobs-to-automation.html So you are entitled to your political opinions, but IMO if they are mostly based around vagueness and name calling then you might not be any smarter than the "dumb reddit NEETs" you look down on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 11/29/19 7:16:26 PM #58:	two posters who deserve each other --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:930883414] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>two posters who deserve each other </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
untrustful 11/29/19 7:26:38 PM #59:	No way in hell will people support UBI while they hate the idea of food stamps and unemployment checks. You gotta work your way to the destination instead of thinking you can just teleport to UBI from when we are now. --- My Mario Maker Levels https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/untrustful?type=posted <cite>untrustful posted [p:930883802] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>No way in hell will people support UBI while they hate the idea of food stamps and unemployment checks. You gotta work your way to the destination instead of thinking you can just teleport to UBI from when we are now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Eko 11/29/19 7:31:10 PM #60:	https://youtu.be/0DvNOC_277A This is relevant. Fast forward to 3:30 if you don't wanna watch the whole thing --- P S N : TheEko <cite>The Eko posted [p:930883981] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/0DvNOC_277A This is relevant. Fast forward to 3:30 if you don't wanna watch the whole thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apple1986 11/29/19 7:35:44 PM #61:	Nobody else will say it...racism? --- I wanted ooorange, it gave me lemon-lime - Gunther Hermann <cite>apple1986 posted [p:930884142] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>Nobody else will say it...racism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LethalAffinity 11/29/19 7:36:14 PM #62:	cuttin_in_farm posted... I see this every time hes brought up. UBI is statistically more useful than tax the rich! Or raising the minimum wage. His proposal to up the income of presidents etc but banning them from leeching afterwards makes sense. He doesnt just throw insults. He backups his answers. No politic dodging crap. Whats the deal? He seems completely fit. Is it the lack of political experience? Because the DNC would rather rig it for Biden, Warren, or Buttigieg unless Yang decides to play ball and tow the line for them like Bernie did when he conceded in 2016. People need to understand that it's basically a mafia and fringe candidates like Yang and Tulsi would upset said mafia establishment. Someone else in this topic alluded to UBI being associated with socialism as well and how boomers won't ever get on board with someone like Yang as well. As long as the MSM can smear candidates with the S-word, even if it's not true, they won't gain any traction on the campaign trail. Why do you think Bernie still polls poorly with older voters while a DINO like Biden is still in the lead? --- https://imgur.com/Sv19SP4 https://imgur.com/esZpDkI https://imgur.com/tdtzIvW https://imgur.com/E0O1koZ <cite>LethalAffinity posted [p:930884158] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted...</cite> <quote>I see this every time hes brought up. UBI is statistically more useful than tax the rich! Or raising the minimum wage. His proposal to up the income of presidents etc but banning them from leeching afterwards makes sense. He doesnt just throw insults. He backups his answers. No politic dodging crap. Whats the deal? He seems completely fit. Is it the lack of political experience?</quote> Because the DNC would rather rig it for Biden, Warren, or Buttigieg unless Yang decides to play ball and tow the line for them like Bernie did when he conceded in 2016. People need to understand that it's basically a mafia and fringe candidates like Yang and Tulsi would upset said mafia establishment. Someone else in this topic alluded to UBI being associated with socialism as well and how boomers won't ever get on board with someone like Yang as well. As long as the MSM can smear candidates with the S-word, even if it's not true, they won't gain any traction on the campaign trail. Why do you think Bernie still polls poorly with older voters while a DINO like Biden is still in the lead?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CloudThunder 11/29/19 7:43:36 PM #63:	because america would rather have an imbecile like trump than someone whos smart and has ideas.america doesnt want a president,they want an entertaining clown like they have now. <cite>CloudThunder posted [p:930884450] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>because america would rather have an imbecile like trump than someone whos smart and has ideas.america doesnt want a president,they want an entertaining clown like they have now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 11/29/19 7:46:06 PM #64:	untrustful posted... No way in hell will people support UBI while they hate the idea of food stamps and unemployment checks. You gotta work your way to the destination instead of thinking you can just teleport to UBI from when we are now. The concept of ubi is to do this exact thing. Whether you want to admit it or not, people CANT just do better. People go to school to get loans that cant be discharged via bankruptcy because jobs wont look at you without one. Jobs then pay barely a livable wage for positions that need degrees. Ability to move up or promotions are stagnant because those positions arent even open. People in those positions wont leave because they cannot retire. People cant start businesses or work on developing their careers because they dont have the additional income. So many people can do good by just having a tiny buffer like UBI. It doesnt reward you for failing like social programs. It kick starts those limited by life. Something simply forgiving loans or raising the min wage wont do. And from the videos Ive watched, it seems like UBI has worked more effectively in other areas. Hence why I think its statistically better. Whenever he gets a chance to even mention other things, I tend to agree with him. But my main concern is the economy. Im forced to be depressed at a shit job when I could work a mentally more positive job if I had a $1000 buffer. I can then have more time to write and try to get into real estate which is what I want. Its not impossible now, obviously, but Im not in as bad a position as others too. Im not knowledgeable. But I feel people losing jobs is and should be a front line issue. What else is important that he has a poor opinion about? Because we cannot fund it just sounds like no one trying to give a solution. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:930884537] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>untrustful posted...</cite> <quote>No way in hell will people support UBI while they hate the idea of food stamps and unemployment checks. You gotta work your way to the destination instead of thinking you can just teleport to UBI from when we are now. </quote> The concept of ubi is to do this exact thing. Whether you want to admit it or not, people CANT just do better. People go to school to get loans that cant be discharged via bankruptcy because jobs wont look at you without one. Jobs then pay barely a livable wage for positions that need degrees. Ability to move up or promotions are stagnant because those positions arent even open. People in those positions wont leave because they cannot retire. People cant start businesses or work on developing their careers because they dont have the additional income. So many people can do good by just having a tiny buffer like UBI. It doesnt reward you for failing like social programs. It kick starts those limited by life. Something simply forgiving loans or raising the min wage wont do. And from the videos Ive watched, it seems like UBI has worked more effectively in other areas. Hence why I think its statistically better. Whenever he gets a chance to even mention other things, I tend to agree with him. But my main concern is the economy. Im forced to be depressed at a shit job when I could work a mentally more positive job if I had a $1000 buffer. I can then have more time to write and try to get into real estate which is what I want. Its not impossible now, obviously, but Im not in as bad a position as others too. Im not knowledgeable. But I feel people losing jobs is and should be a front line issue. What else is important that he has a poor opinion about? Because we cannot fund it just sounds like no one trying to give a solution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/29/19 7:49:03 PM #65:	joe40001 posted... Elon Musk and lots of other people in the tech world second what Yang says about automation going to take away jobs, are they just "low IQ" NEETS as well? Elon Musk was also part of a group of driverless car makers who all claimed they'd be in common use by now. Funny how that worked out. Worshiping Elon Musk isn't great if you want distance yourself from Reddit btw. joe40001 posted... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/25/these-workers-face-the-highest-risk-of-losing-their-jobs-to-automation.html Broseph_Stalin posted... But those "studies" are all based on asking engineers what task could possibly be automated. If hundreds of years of automation to look back on isn't enough of a concrete point for you, that's your problem. Get informed instead of complaining every time someone points out you're uninformed. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:930884639] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>Elon Musk and lots of other people in the tech world second what Yang says about automation going to take away jobs, are they just "low IQ" NEETS as well?</quote> Elon Musk was also part of a group of driverless car makers who all claimed they'd be in common use by now. Funny how that worked out. Worshiping Elon Musk isn't great if you want distance yourself from Reddit btw. joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/25/these-workers-face-the-highest-risk-of-losing-their-jobs-to-automation.html</quote> Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>But those "studies" are all based on asking engineers what task could possibly be automated.</quote> If hundreds of years of automation to look back on isn't enough of a concrete point for you, that's your problem. Get informed instead of complaining every time someone points out you're uninformed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 11/29/19 7:51:18 PM #66:	Anteaterking posted... I don't think many people have objected to this, but the fact that this is your second policy point from him indicates part of the problem: He's basically solely running on UBI. And just to comment, this is a huge deal. It deserves to be second. The reason shit gets approved and backed is because people are looking to help themselves. Like Yang says. Change the incentive and motivation and whats rewarded, and youll get people actually trying to do things for the people. Too many people pass stuff to help them ahead of time even if its worse for people, I believe. The way Yang phrased it definitely made sense. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:930884716] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think many people have objected to this, but the fact that this is your second policy point from him indicates part of the problem: He's basically solely running on UBI.</quote> And just to comment, this is a huge deal. It deserves to be second. The reason shit gets approved and backed is because people are looking to help themselves. Like Yang says. Change the incentive and motivation and whats rewarded, and youll get people actually trying to do things for the people. Too many people pass stuff to help them ahead of time even if its worse for people, I believe. The way Yang phrased it definitely made sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 11/29/19 7:57:31 PM #67:	Broseph_Stalin posted... joe40001 posted... Elon Musk and lots of other people in the tech world second what Yang says about automation going to take away jobs, are they just "low IQ" NEETS as well? Elon Musk was also part of a group of driverless car makers who all claimed they'd be in common use by now. Funny how that worked out. Worshiping Elon Musk isn't great if you want distance yourself from Reddit btw. joe40001 posted... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/25/these-workers-face-the-highest-risk-of-losing-their-jobs-to-automation.html Broseph_Stalin posted... But those "studies" are all based on asking engineers what task could possibly be automated. If hundreds of years of automation to look back on isn't enough of a concrete point for you, that's your problem. Get informed instead of complaining every time someone points out you're uninformed. Again, vagueness "get informed because you are not informed and my proof that you are not informed is that I claim you are not informed" Also I don't care if you lump me in with reddit, it's your argument that "reddit people = dumb". And like your other claims you haven't proven it at all. This new wave of automation is fundamentally different. And even if it wasn't the earlier industrial revolutions caused riots and tons of civil unrest so to act like "nah, it'll be fine" is disingenuous. There's a lot of good evidence that this wave of automation will not create anywhere near the amount of jobs that it will displace, and even if it's only as bad as earlier ones it's still going to be really bad. So yeah, let's look at the concrete facts rather than trying to win an argument by using "reddit user" as a pejorative. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:930884957] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>Elon Musk and lots of other people in the tech world second what Yang says about automation going to take away jobs, are they just "low IQ" NEETS as well?</quote> Elon Musk was also part of a group of driverless car makers who all claimed they'd be in common use by now. Funny how that worked out. Worshiping Elon Musk isn't great if you want distance yourself from Reddit btw. joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/25/these-workers-face-the-highest-risk-of-losing-their-jobs-to-automation.html</quote> Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>But those "studies" are all based on asking engineers what task could possibly be automated.</quote> If hundreds of years of automation to look back on isn't enough of a concrete point for you, that's your problem. Get informed instead of complaining every time someone points out you're uninformed. </quote> Again, vagueness "get informed because you are not informed and my proof that you are not informed is that I claim you are not informed" Also I don't care if you lump me in with reddit, it's your argument that "reddit people = dumb". And like your other claims you haven't proven it at all. This new wave of automation is fundamentally different. And even if it wasn't the earlier industrial revolutions caused riots and tons of civil unrest so to act like "nah, it'll be fine" is disingenuous. There's a lot of good evidence that this wave of automation will not create anywhere near the amount of jobs that it will displace, and even if it's only as bad as earlier ones it's still going to be really bad. So yeah, let's look at the concrete facts rather than trying to win an argument by using "reddit user" as a pejorative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/29/19 8:10:17 PM #68:	joe40001 posted... This new wave of automation is fundamentally different. joe40001 posted... There's a lot of good evidence that this wave of automation will not create anywhere near the amount of jobs that it will displace There is no fundamental difference and like I already said productivity is flat while unemployment remains low. Your "evidence" is based on insane predictions no one can accurately make. What do you want me to do here? Take every neo-luddite yang supporter through an economics course? Start here i guess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:930885429] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>This new wave of automation is fundamentally different.</quote> joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>There's a lot of good evidence that this wave of automation will not create anywhere near the amount of jobs that it will displace</quote> There is no fundamental difference and like I already said productivity is flat while unemployment remains low. Your "evidence" is based on insane predictions no one can accurately make. What do you want me to do here? Take every neo-luddite yang supporter through an economics course? Start here i guess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 11/29/19 8:13:03 PM #69:	because the media discriminates against him and 99% of America is brainwashed by the media --- https://i.imgtc.com/LCLKlZX.gif Life Fiber Kamui SENKETSU! <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:930885530] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>because the media discriminates against him and 99% of America is brainwashed by the media</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 11/29/19 8:24:33 PM #70:	Broseph_Stalin posted... joe40001 posted... This new wave of automation is fundamentally different. joe40001 posted... There's a lot of good evidence that this wave of automation will not create anywhere near the amount of jobs that it will displace There is no fundamental difference and like I already said productivity is flat while unemployment remains low. Your "evidence" is based on insane predictions no one can accurately make. What do you want me to do here? Take every neo-luddite yang supporter through an economics course? Start here i guess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy You understand that a fallacy just means something is not necessarily true, not that it's necessarily false, right? Or do you have to take a logic course? Look, you can masturbate in private, no need to bring it here on this board while you call people names that you have no interest in understanding. I'm sure you know more about automation than Elon Musk, I'm sure you know more about economics than cnbc and forbes, and most of all I'm sure your smug condescension and lack of concrete arguments 100% proves everything you dismissively insist is true is actually true. You clearly made up your mind ages ago and just get off on talking shit at people you think you are better than, maybe if you actually want to have a good faith argument we could continue this conversation, but until that point I'm certainly done talking to your smug condescending ass. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:930885950] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>This new wave of automation is fundamentally different.</quote> joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>There's a lot of good evidence that this wave of automation will not create anywhere near the amount of jobs that it will displace</quote> There is no fundamental difference and like I already said productivity is flat while unemployment remains low. Your "evidence" is based on insane predictions no one can accurately make. What do you want me to do here? Take every neo-luddite yang supporter through an economics course? Start here i guess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy </quote> You understand that a fallacy just means something is not necessarily true, not that it's necessarily false, right? Or do you have to take a logic course? Look, you can masturbate in private, no need to bring it here on this board while you call people names that you have no interest in understanding. I'm sure you know more about automation than Elon Musk, I'm sure you know more about economics than cnbc and forbes, and most of all I'm sure your smug condescension and lack of concrete arguments 100% proves everything you dismissively insist is true is actually true. You clearly made up your mind ages ago and just get off on talking shit at people you think you are better than, maybe if you actually want to have a good faith argument we could continue this conversation, but until that point I'm certainly done talking to your smug condescending ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 11/29/19 8:36:33 PM #71:	@Broseph_Stalin posted... If automation killed jobs we'd obviously see higher unemployment and productivity. Instead we have full employment and flat productivity. Yang was once questioned on this by an economist and had no answer. This leaves him with only predictions about the future and how many jobs it will kill, someday. But those "studies" are all based on asking engineers what task could possibly be automated. And why automation in the service sector is somehow different from the automation we saw in agriculture and industry, they can't say. You are going to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl8OlkkwRpc And then you're going to research these keywords blockchain smart contracts Ethereum Fourth Industrial Revolution And then you're going to watch that video again. Automation is going to kill jobs. It hasn't happened yet because enterprises haven't fully adopted the technology as of yet. When there's blood on the streets, you'll know it has taken place, the Fourth Industrial Revolution. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:930886416] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>@Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote> If automation killed jobs we'd obviously see higher unemployment and productivity. Instead we have full employment and flat productivity. Yang was once questioned on this by an economist and had no answer. This leaves him with only predictions about the future and how many jobs it will kill, someday. But those "studies" are all based on asking engineers what task could possibly be automated. And why automation in the service sector is somehow different from the automation we saw in agriculture and industry, they can't say.</quote> You are going to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl8OlkkwRpc And then you're going to research these keywords blockchain smart contracts Ethereum Fourth Industrial Revolution And then you're going to watch that video again. Automation is going to kill jobs. It hasn't happened yet because enterprises haven't fully adopted the technology as of yet. When there's blood on the streets, you'll know it has taken place, the Fourth Industrial Revolution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
doomcrusader 11/29/19 8:41:00 PM #72:	Yang seems like a good dude but fuck ubi. Why should my low life NEET friends get free money to sit on their ass playing videogames. If we could exclude those people from the system, I might look into it. Keep it for people who work or are under one year without a job. --- https://imgur.com/tqMGw https://imgur.com/IHbuM <cite>doomcrusader posted [p:930886588] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>Yang seems like a good dude but fuck ubi. Why should my low life NEET friends get free money to sit on their ass playing videogames. If we could exclude those people from the system, I might look into it. Keep it for people who work or are under one year without a job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 11/29/19 8:43:38 PM #73:	Because his highest polling is 5% and the dnc is as incompetent as the trump is a moron. Hence why biden is their front runner. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:930886690] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>Because his highest polling is 5% and the dnc is as incompetent as the trump is a moron. Hence why biden is their front runner. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 11/30/19 9:03:15 AM #74:	1337toothbrush posted... brestugo posted... Tribadism. You've got the wrong word there. Id much rather see that instead though --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:930904211] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote>Tribadism.</quote> You've got the wrong word there.</quote> Id much rather see that instead though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GigaSPX 11/30/19 9:36:45 AM #75:	doomcrusader posted... Yang seems like a good dude but fuck ubi. Why should my low life NEET friends get free money to sit on their ass playing videogames. If we could exclude those people from the system, I might look into it. Keep it for people who work or are under one year without a job. The freedom dividend isn't like EBT. It's an option. Either people who are on EBT choose the UBI or stay with what they have. --- My sig is here. Yup. <cite>GigaSPX posted [p:930905061] in Why does A... [t:78210600]...</cite> <quote>doomcrusader posted...</cite> <quote>Yang seems like a good dude but fuck ubi. Why should my low life NEET friends get free money to sit on their ass playing videogames. If we could exclude those people from the system, I might look into it. Keep it for people who work or are under one year without a job.</quote> The freedom dividend isn't like EBT. It's an option. Either people who are on EBT choose the UBI or stay with what they have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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