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| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/12/19 12:24:03 PM #345 | Like the crux of why that doesn't make sense is your'e saying "if Cam is town I don't want Ulti and SBell autolynching him" How is the solution to that issue to just lynch Cam yourself? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/12/19 12:21:36 PM #344 | turbopuns3 posted... So it would be Ulti and SBell lynching Cam If Cam flips scum this is not a problem though. This should only influence your thought processes if you thought town Sheep implied town Cam, which you've not actually said was implied. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | So...should we just agree that the "Forum Game" tag belongs to mafia? |
| Lopen 07/12/19 11:12:07 AM #132 | I'm talking about your inherent agenda in posts you make. Applies to trolls, and if you're harassing responses could easily apply to them too. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | So...should we just agree that the "Forum Game" tag belongs to mafia? |
| Lopen 07/12/19 11:01:17 AM #128 | Whacked out Lopen opinions have existed for over 5 years dude. You had a problem with me and now are playing damage control. I don't care if you have a problem with me cause I obviously don't think your posts are worth reading generally either, but the fact that you did your preachy enablement thing with me is what makes me mock you every time you try and play that card as you trying to be some sort of impartial arbiter of post quality or whatever. It's just your cute way to try and put yourself over as some sort of intelligent thinker while slandering users you don't like that are disliked enough that people won't call you on bullshit. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/12/19 10:56:38 AM #329 | You really haven't though. You've claimed stuff like I don't understand your play and that you went with your gut and that you'd been doubting your read on Cam but you haven't actually done a through walkthrough At best you've explained why voting Cam isn't blatantly contradictory to thinking he's town-- not why he's actually a better choice than Sheep. Thinking there is some obscure role setup and SBell and I are the scum with HEAVY CONSIDERATION isn't good enough cause you never elaborated on why you considered that beyond a defense of probability and roles which doesn't really explain why you suspect. Why is everyone on your flowchart but Ulti? It's just a problem of you not having posted enough this game due to being scum, being busy, or both, and not caring to put the work in to unpack it all. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/12/19 10:50:01 AM #326 | My case has nothing to do with the actual vote though. If you'd just put a blank post with a vote on Cam, and hadn't been defending Cam all game we're not having this conversation And I'm not going to tell sheep why I've abandoned SBell he can figure it out from my posts if he's read em (not sure he has-- lack of content from Sheep today is disappointing and is making me doubt my read much more than anything SBell has done). If he wants to build a case on SBell he should build one. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | So...should we just agree that the "Forum Game" tag belongs to mafia? |
| Lopen 07/12/19 10:46:48 AM #122 | You dropped it because no one took you seriously and asked what the hell you were on. Were I someone who had a bit less support around here you could, and likely would have kept that propaganda train going though. Like you say "oh I didn't realize the pattern of your posting" I've been posting here a lot damn longer than 5 years man, and you knew who I was before then. It's not about content, it's merely about easy targets. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | So...should we just agree that the "Forum Game" tag belongs to mafia? |
| Lopen 07/12/19 10:28:47 AM #117 | I guarantee you it has nothing to do with the content of individual posts. Why do I know this? A big part of why I take umbrage with you telling people not to "enable" is you tried to stick me in that group too. People say I'm unpleasant at times and not everyone likes me but you are literally the only person on the board who has tried to call me a troll in my years here, so people ignored you on it, but I don't like that you take some holier than thou position to try and say people you have an issue with "objectively" aren't worth talking to. I wouldn't be surprised if more people on the board (the board, not discord) find me more worth talking to than you, XIII. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/12/19 10:18:51 AM #320 | Only scum would deliberately misrepresent my point so many times in a row. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | So...should we just agree that the "Forum Game" tag belongs to mafia? |
| Lopen 07/12/19 10:16:59 AM #109 | Well I wouldn't be surprised if he is not completely impartial on who he preaches to. He's not completely impartial on who he preaches about so it would be par the course. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | So...should we just agree that the "Forum Game" tag belongs to mafia? |
| Lopen 07/12/19 10:02:17 AM #103 | XIII absolutely gives everyone crap about replying to certain people, Lasa. He is, of course, the great arbiter of quality. I wouldn't reply to him on this matter as it only enables him by giving him an excuse to preach more about how the posts of certain users have no merit. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | So...should we just agree that the "Forum Game" tag belongs to mafia? |
| Lopen 07/12/19 1:31:54 AM #93 | Did you consider that you actually need to do the thing I'm pointing out for me to point it out? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | So...should we just agree that the "Forum Game" tag belongs to mafia? |
| Lopen 07/12/19 12:36:59 AM #91 | Sorry I'm not as good at responding to the lighting of the signal as I used to be. Blame Teppen. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | So...should we just agree that the "Forum Game" tag belongs to mafia? |
| Lopen 07/12/19 12:25:42 AM #89 | Gotta handle these unsavory things via PM lest we lose virtue signaling cred --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | Some streamers are playing a new secret Capcom Trading Card Game |
| Lopen 07/12/19 12:14:47 AM #92 | Went 41-9 in my first 50 with Dante. Mid C-3 right now. C ranks I am actually losing once in a while. Also I underestimated black dragon his damaging spikes thing is really good with enough life sacrifice in the deck. Also realized man lag is the worst in this game. Definitely lost one game due to lag cause I tried playing an action and couldn't and was slain cause couldn't resonate. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 10:54:05 PM #312 | He's not wrong. Excellent Survivor play. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | ^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Shapeshifter - Day 16 |
| Lopen 07/11/19 10:46:53 PM #65 | T1000 Morrigan --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 10:32:53 PM #307 | I think the case on you is better. Fluid play Speaking of sheep though I think it's very unlikely Tom thumbed him. We weren't really pursuing that avenue at all at the time. Realistically if you look at the players alive he seems the least likely there aside from arguably me as I don't see Tom repeating me without a damn good reason to. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 10:19:53 PM #305 | ##Vote: puns Couldn't find any hints. That list is the best process of elimination I could find for potential Tom targets so I would say it's at least reasonable that Tom targeting puns could have hapoened and even been fairly likely Not really saying it strongly adds to the case but it is also worth noting Tom wasn't one of the people drinking the puns = obvtown kool aid. Seemed p neutral on him. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 10:00:25 PM #302 | I mean, I'm not even trying to do this but turbopuns3 posted... Lea Right before the end of the day Tom successfully drew a kill. If you assume it can't have been Lea or Cam due to flips it's between me and puns, if Tom used this list as a guideline (which isn't a bad idea) And he already used his ability on me night 3 so you'd expect him to try someone else. Gonna keep looking to see if Tom put any good suspicions don, but I do feel even better about it using this list as a potential pool he chose from --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:41:26 PM #300 | ##Unvote Nothing about your play convinces me I'm wrong but Tom's suspect pool may --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:39:25 PM #299 | ... You know If there is only one scum left, revisiting Tom's possible ability use when he died may have some merit... --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:36:41 PM #298 | Being open minded about a role combo existing is one thing Fearing it to the point where it scares you into a move you wouldn't normally make when the likelihood of the combo existing is incredibly low and the players needed to match the combo aren't playing how you'd expect. Like as an example from this very game I humored the possibility that there was some sort of alignment flipping role in this game because Scum Book Reader made no sense and I thought Pez was kinda towny but I wasn't pushing for the lynch of Benjamin after that first day. Because seriously thinking that was more likely than me misreading Ben and Pez is just bad play --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | Gauntlet Crew Ranks 90s Horror Films - Do you like ranking scary movies? |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:32:17 PM #394 | Never really cared for misery but I can appreciate the performance of Kathy Bates in spite of that. She does really well with a story I'm not super interested in. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:30:25 PM #296 | UltimaterializerX posted... If someone is Survivor and actually claims it, I will not auto lynch them. Survivor winning with town is way more fun. I echo this btw. The Survivor will not get my vote --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:29:37 PM #295 | Like if say, 2 players claimed doctor, you'd naturally assume one was lying. This is something you'd do regardless of their play to this point. It has nothing to do with whether it's likely each individual player could be doctor, just a two doctor setup being inherently weird. Judging a single doctor claim is different. You start to wonder about convenience and such. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:26:15 PM #294 | Specifically a power claim should be evaluated on whether it's likely their specific claim and results they claim they have follows from their play to this point, and potential gains as scum to fakeclaim it. It's also in a vacuum unless mass claim has occurred so you can take it in isolation to an extent. Role meta is different and is basically just absolute probability. Are you likely to see this role setup based on other roles in the game and how often such a setup appears. If you're heavily considering a role setup that has been seen once in all your games with a pair of players that don't make sense to be scummates you've crossed beyond thinking about the game into thinking about a justification for "thinking" about the game. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:18:40 PM #291 | That's not really ironic. They're fundamentally different concepts. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:16:15 PM #288 | I'm less confident on my read of SBell of Survivor than I am of you being scum --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:09:49 PM #286 | You're smarter than that. And presumably can read. Cause there's no way you actually think I'm voting you because you voted wrong. Misrepresenting my case is scum tactic for sure. Honestly just reread this turbopuns3 posted... I'm just saying it was a heavy consideration of mine yesterday because both SBell and Lopen were on my flow chart and the possibility was still out there. So it was part of my thought process. Why is this not autolynch. "Heavy consideration" based on a setup seen once with two specific players have been at each other's throats on and off the whole game. How is a town player heavily considering that scumteam. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:03:42 PM #282 | I will say I think we still have a chance Come Sheep and SBell. Ulti is lost but we don't need him! Crush this scum. (SBell has no real incentive to do this he's clearly the Survivor) --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 9:01:46 PM #281 | I mean it's the same read I explained in game. The fact that you took this long to actually reach a step of being reasonable (presumably because you are reading the room and no longer feel at risk) rather than mad makes me feel really good about it. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 8:54:29 PM #279 | I'll risk a Survivor in the game. Definitely feeling you're the guy. Don't think we win if we lynch Sheep cause he ain't the guy and no way you get lynched in the final 3 without me flipping town. You've played a very good game yesterday and today excepted and that gives you a lot of currency with people like Ulti who aren't very as you call it fluid --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 8:42:06 PM #276 | Well if Survivor wins with scum when numbers exceed town I take back the idea of lynching me being a good idea cause Survivor existing in the setup seems likely. At that point you should just make a judgment call of whether puns or me is more likely scum --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | ^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Shapeshifter - Day 16 |
| Lopen 07/11/19 7:47:29 PM #6 | Dante Loki --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | Some streamers are playing a new secret Capcom Trading Card Game |
| Lopen 07/11/19 7:22:27 PM #90 | Now 28-2 at rank C5 Haven't seen the red dragon since D3. Looks like mid Ds are when deck diversity starts hitting. Finally saw every character with a fellow Dante being last. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 6:00:44 PM #270 | I like town to win if Survivor exists and can lynch scum in final 3 If the game just ends I'm gonna be upset though. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 5:51:51 PM #267 | Oh wait Ulti was saying when I flip scum got it. Okay, yeah, don't care if I'm getting lynched then. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 5:48:53 PM #266 | By the way does the game really end immediately if survivor + scum outnumber town? If so I may have made a potential tactical error here lol. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 5:47:04 PM #265 | FFVII mafia has the same problem by the way cause I was SK trying to lynch scum. 3rd party vs mafia is generally legitimate scumhunting I would say. Trying to use it as a scumtell is poor. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 5:40:24 PM #263 | Btw researching soul mafia is poor cause I was playing third party attempting to lynch mafia, or vice versa. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 5:36:25 PM #258 | Wow that sure was a lot of research to justify voting me when I told you it was smart to vote me Boy will your face be red when I flip town though. Much more satisfying than you lynching me cause I told you to --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 4:12:29 PM #240 | turbopuns3 posted... It would have been such an absurd stunt for me as lone scum to pull. Like honestly, I know what I'll do as lone scum, I'll randomly paint a huge ass target on my back instead of just kill the guy I'd thought was scum for a while and leave alive the guy who town cleared me a hundred times. Yes this is a good looking, totally reasonable decision which in no way hurts my outlook. Great job, scum me. It was actually a very small target I'm just a good marksman. No one else would be aiming at it. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 4:11:04 PM #239 | turbopuns3 posted...
How is this also not true in the opposite direction, but more so? How does town voldemort not implicate Harry godfather? I mean you asked the questions yourself yesterday. Everyone said "lynch the other regardless of flip." Going purely on that Cam had because I said I would consider lynches that aren't Cam if Sheep flipped town which is more than anyone said for Sheep. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 3:57:23 PM #236 | You didn't actually elaborate on why your brain thought Cam was more likely to be scum, though? Your brain only said he was likely to be a distraction if allowed to remain in the game. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 3:47:12 PM #234 | turbopuns3 posted... It was just the part you have decided to laser focus at the cost of completely ignoring other more obvious scummy players I don't believe you actually elaborated further? Am I wrong? Keep in mind anything relating to Cam being scum is invalid because you said Sheep was more likely scum --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 3:28:48 PM #230 | You doubting Cam was town is not a valid counter-argument because you said in your vote post that Sheep was more likely to be scum. Your whole argument for lynching Cam has been that you were damage controlling a town-town mislynch-- now you're saying you did it because you doubted he was town? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 3:09:51 PM #226 | I mean not lynching me is good too. The odds of winning are slightly higher if you don't. But like, I think me flipping town makes this game really hard to lose too because I think giving my argument against Puns some credibility should seal it and I feel really good about that read. If I was Braun Strowman I'd totally use my ability on puns right now. And yeah it's not MYLO if I'm town. I am town, ergo, I see no real risk to lynching me here. Well unless we have a survivor and they just hammer whoever, I guess. If I was a survivor I'd totally rather town win though. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 3:05:00 PM #223 | Obellisk posted... Why would I lie? Because I am a peaceful creature that would never hurt anyone (That post you're quoting was in jest) --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 23: Foreshadowing Pays Off |
| Lopen 07/11/19 3:02:42 PM #221 | We have vastly different definitions of "easily possible" It's like saying it's "easily possible" to win the $100k on powerball because it's more likely than the jackpot. You're suggesting a pretty significant edge case in terms of roles, one specific setup you can cite from b8 that had something compatible ever (this one being even more unfriendly with the flavor millers) and then on top of that attributing those roles to players in the game who have a marked negative affinity for each other (remember how hard I was trying to get SBell lynched two days ago?) and then arguing it was a "heavy consideration?" Give me a break. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
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