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| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 12:38:36 PM #225 | As godfather who bussed a scummate I'd just coast on that the whole game and play low risk moves the rest as I have an obv town look, have no fear of scans, and don't have any reason to rock the boat. Honestly if Ulti was being honest with his research he'd look at FFT Mafia where I did that as Usurper to win easily. My play this game has been nothing like that one. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 12:24:51 PM #223 | Also I think you're understating how much I pushed for it I remember posting a lot about "why wouldn't Cop reveal scans on day 3, or just push for a Death lynch at the very least" --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 12:19:49 PM #222 | I thought Harry Potter was the real cop yes-- it seemed like a reasonably flavor role to have a strong ability in game, and Hb's instant disbelief fed into that suspicion. Figured mass claim would make him reveal that. I also thought Lea was possibly some sort of town power fakeclaiming Doom and could help us resolve some of the power in the game. As for why I didn't push for it, I mean, it's self resolving to some extent, and people weren't going for it. I have limits in what I can reasonably expected to push for, but if you're going to say it did me any favors doing that or that I in any way needed, as scum, to make some sort of desperate gambit play on the cop claim because I was suspected, that's just misrepresenting what happened and the game state. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 12:07:55 PM #220 | I will say Cam being lynched is the only reason I knew yesterday was 1 scum left, for whatever that's worth. Sheep -> Sbell would've been my preferred pick but I doubt Sheep -> Sbell is something that could've been easily argued with Cam and myself on the board as at that point there are too many holes for 1 scum remaining to make ironclad sense and SBell was double cleared (which, as I said, he played in a way to draw it)-- so maybe there really was no way out. I don't know. But I still think if you're openly thinking about the game and not just playing the percentages, we can maybe humor it with you, me and Cam lynching him. Anyway. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 11:55:29 AM #218 | Main reason I transitioned into it is to say me thinking this is a difficult situation for me at endgame is not some sorta new defense I'm pulling out of my ass and to some extent I played into it yesterday, just got cold feet at the end because of a lack in conviction in my read. I've been saying this for days now. turbopuns3 posted... Like, last day I was describing a hypothetical where I was the last scum, and you interjected with "you're not considering if Cam flipped scum" Reason I called them basically the same, IIRC, is because if Cam is scum, not wanting him to "be a distraction" makes no sense. If he's scum, him being "a distraction" is not "a distraction" it's town lynching the right guy. Him being lynched the day you lynched him or the day after are basically the same in terms of net value/loss for town, if he's scum. Like for me your vote post was phrased in a way like you knew Cam was going to flip town and you made the lynch anyway so town wouldn't make a mislynch on him the next day. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 11:35:40 AM #215 | The key to why it'd be laughable as scum for me to be in this situation, since I don't path kills in a way where this endgame scenario is likely to happen. There were definitely some kills that as a scum team member I could have prioritized Ulti over. I am autolynch here without a lot of work, that much is obvious to me. I did go into why, I as town, considered being a martyr, because I think I'm getting lynched as either alignment with this configuration by default. It's relevant. If you're saying I made some sort of slip and it was my masterplan as scum for Ulti and SBell being alive right now and it's autolose for town, "you got me." --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 11:30:55 AM #214 | Like it's not as simple as "two scum making those flavor claims as a gambit" either The big thing that made Cam suspicious was him being so thorough about combing through day 1 and somehow missing Hb made a Harry Potter claim. If Sheep is scum and Cam are scum, it makes sense he doesn't address it immediately there, as Cam is possibly wondering what claim to make at the time, and even if he's consider claiming his actual scum flavor as a play, doesn't necessarily want to draw undue attention to his scum buddy right away --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 11:25:23 AM #211 | turbopuns3 posted... Lopen what was your reasoning again for lynching sheep over cam on the sheep/cam day Cam had a much better voting record all things considered, and hadn't really done much during the game to make me suspect him. The only real reason I suspected Cam at all was due to association with Sheep cause it seemed like a plausible move for two scum to do, those flavor claims. As I said during the day I voted him. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 11:22:21 AM #210 | They're the same conversation, really. One I just control night kills and can argue I wouldn't put myself in the situation. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 11:03:34 AM #205 | I mean, yes, there have been a lot of dumb lynches this game being honest. MZero and Lea are glaring ones to me. Not that I would have done better as far as not lynching town goes but yeah. But like yeah both Ulti and SBell being here is the key. One is manageable two is basically autolose for town if both are alive at endgame with me. That's why I tried to martyr lynch you yesterday. Only reason I backed off that is because I became less convinced you were the right pick and didn't want throwing the game to be on my shoulders in a situation where I wasn't dead sure --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 10:53:43 AM #202 | I wouldn't kill SBell. As scum he's a good fallguy lynch if he's not scum cause just look at him. Ulti though? Absolutely. He's had almost no suspicion all game, is reasonably active, and has had his sights on me all game. Easy kill earlier game. Probably over dowolf so quickly (a kill I thought was SK) or scarechan (still don't get this kill. Dude had a tough spot to inherit and was offbase on all his initial reads IIRC) --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 10:46:13 AM #200 | turbopuns3 posted... I mean here we are with you trying to lynch SBell so why would it be laughable for you to be here if you were scum exactly? Sincerely Who is "we?" Ulti isn't trying to lynch SBell. I'm basically banking on you being convincing enough to convince Ulti and you coming the conclusion that I'm not the scum. I don't particularly like my chances of survival here. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 10:43:08 AM #199 | I mean Ulti has been attached to my leg like a rabid Yorkshire terrier all game. If I'm controlling the kills there's no way he's still here especially if I'm the innocent scanning mafia. It's not being conceited it's just common sense. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 10:28:33 AM #195 | turbopuns3 posted... well I guess theoretically Ulti could be guilty scanning but that's doubtful I think Technically scum didnt know there were no millers in the set up either if we're going that way --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 486: Board 8 Does Dallas |
| Lopen 07/15/19 10:26:15 AM #340 | Brock is awesome. Something I hate was replaced with something great --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 10:16:15 AM #194 | turbopuns3 posted... I think no kill is your only option that doesn't auto lose Meh. I think trying WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM and just going with it is fine. This looks p autolose on paper too. Frankly if I'm scum the idea that I'd allow the game to get to this configuration with paranoid Ulti alive and SBell alive at endgame is kinda laughable. Realistically though I think you need to go back further in the game to realize that like... me as scum really makes no sense with a 5 scum team. Let's go back to when Ben claimed cop, okay? I tried to get Ben killed. Let's say that works. He had damning scans on my two scummates, and he flips cop. We probably just lose immediately there. We lynch death and Pez. You can say "oh that was your long con too scummy to be scum play" but consider the risk/reward that I as godfather have to evem trying that. I wasn't even under any real suspicion to that point. Consider also I have to be godfather if I'm scum. The cop is the last guy I'm giving a damn about. There's no way I'm making that move. I just play like a sheep like Ulti and Corrik. YEAHHH TWO SCANS HIGH FIVE. Blah blah. I mean yeah you can say oh this is some elaborate gambit but it's just a lot of hoops to jump through to make the game tougher than it needs to be. Playing conservatively would just be easier. It's basically the same counterargument you were making to you yourself being scum, puns, yesterday, but like x10. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 5:16:14 AM #178 | turbopuns3 posted... Sure but Ulti is not going to hear anything that comes from you either most likely. I'm talking about my own needs Eh, I think you may be slightly underestimating my whittling away of Ulti's inherent fear of getting got by scum Lopen But fair enough Course maybe secretly the answer will be Ulti and you gotta convince us to unvote each other and put our differences aside... --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 5:09:18 AM #177 | Lopen posted... Sheep was based on the "Chris is town list" which admittedly SBell also fit under, but I think I thought Tom might over respect the cop scan on him at first. But honestly if the final four was missing you or Ulti and had Sheep + SBell here I'd probably not be arguing it so strongly Also keep in mind the post you cited had an Hb vote in it explicitly, so that probably helped lean me that way --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 5:08:04 AM #175 | turbopuns3 posted... another thing, Lopen is that if I ultimately decide not to lynch you I also have to convince Ulti which I am sure cannot be done with just pointing at Tom You should reread today after you read the rest of the game if you think that's what I'm mostly pushing at him with. This is Ulti "omg flavor trap" stuff in terms of significance. Admittedly I just talked with you an hour about the merit of it so I understand why that would be your perception, but there has been more to it for sure. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 5:05:19 AM #174 | Puns was based on the "unscanned list" which I discarded as the theory when you cited that Chris post with town picks yesterday, and I'd recalled Tom randomly mentioning Chris town reads as a total non sequitur. It was a big part of why I got off of you as a lynch. Sheep was based on the "Chris is town list" which admittedly SBell also fit under, but I think I thought Tom might over respect the cop scan on him at first. But honestly if the final four was missing you or Ulti and had Sheep + SBell here I'd probably not be arguing it so strongly SBell is based on "Tom's suspicions" and "Chris is town list" I don't want to overstate it though that isn't the entirety of my grief with SBell or even the biggest factor. Him not killing me yesterday is probably my biggest gripe, especially after doubling down on suspecting me the whole game (while saying maybe I'm town yesterday, btw). Deferring to Ben with two randos is one thing but deferring to you when I'm there? Don't see town SBell doing that. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 4:45:51 AM #168 | You took exception to me calling it "arbitrary" and have been rather dismissive in general of what I'm doing today with my boots on the ground. It does lend itself to a certain vibe of projected importance and authority, unintended as it may be. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 4:38:25 AM #166 | And if it's more focused than I think then my bad. It's just taking forever so I assumed you were digesting a lot. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 4:36:51 AM #165 | Note I'm not saying going at the game in a purely data based way is even necessarily better play, just that I think what you're doing seems a bit unfocused to be considered as surgical and analytical as you're making it out to be. When I call some post you "aha!" about arbitrary, I just mean that all 3 of the town in the game are not about to come to the same conclusion, necessarily, when they read it. It doesn't mean it has no value, but it's not objectively a better way to find scum or anything either than speculating about the likely value of an unknown night action, just because words you can read are able to be read and night actions are guessing. Words you're guessing at interpretation and significance to some extent, whereas night actions you're guessing at targets based on who used them. There's speculation eirher way. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 4:28:06 AM #162 | You don't know the actual 'value' of some post you think is scummy or townlike either, if we're talking data. You weigh it based on some value in your head, but in the end it's just words. If you're cutting the game to data, the meat of your analysis should be on ability uses and votes (and the posts with them). Rereading a whole game is not really what I'd call 'data driven' analysis. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 4:21:23 AM #160 | It is arbitrary, though. Things you think are significant may not even matter in the end. There is a lot of noise in a game of mafia. People are always eager to claim they caught a "slip" but sometimes it doesn't matter and you caught nothing but a normal post you thought was significant. With so many mislynches after coasting through 4 scum, it feels kinda like RNG right now. You have to get there somewhere, but say we both come to the same conclusion that SBell is scum, and he is, who is more likely 'right?' in how they came to it? Say Tom actually did target him to draw ths kill, am I more right than you in how I came to the conclusion or did I just get lucky by considering something that should not have worked? If Tom didn't draw the kill, was it an angle not worth considering, even if I reached the right conclusion? I'm not sure. Tom's relative suspicion of SBell, and by extension Chris's may have been useful in getting there, even if the kill draw was not the exact right avenue to lock it down. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 4:08:09 AM #156 | I mean I'm skeptical you're using your time well by rereading the game, either. I think me probing SBell made him more clear as scum, for me, than any random thing I'm gonna find from some arbitrary point earlier in the game. If you'd done the same to one of us you might feel more sure than those previous days make you. Saying a mafia argument has no merit is condescending if you don't adequately explain it and thorughly defeat counterpoints. Like if I said you rereading day 1 has no merit you'd probably think it was-- I could argue it likely has less merit than the optimal strategy, but you will probably find something in there that clears things up, so I'm not going to go that far with it. ANYWAY. This has crossed into being more distracting than even tangentially useful so I'll stop. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 3:59:46 AM #152 | If you wanna discard it that's your prerogative I just think your "no merit" thing is at best narrow minded and at worst condescending is all. It should weigh in, even if it's relatively more minor to you. All data should be considered. Your random "aha!" about random post in day 3 is not necessarily objectively more useful, even if it makes you go "aha!" --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 3:55:20 AM #148 | I know what you're saying I'm saying they don't until you know 1 scum is left, though, which 2/4 of us didn't until today. If you think Tom thumbing someone with multiple scum left "confirms" them I should be confirmed since Tom bit his thumb at me when only 3 scum were left. It's as much like 2 as 1 is like 2. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 3:50:34 AM #146 | It's only pointless to debate because you're poor at representing your side or you know I'm right (or at least have "some merit") after I've unpacked it more and don't want to admit it. Information being actionable is important. The last role being godfather is nice and all but even if you know people aren't cleared 100% you can avoid mistakes. 5tar getting one more scan than expected is what let me determine only one scum was left and play yesterday a bit differently than normal. Also I think if we have Cam or Lea cleared by one or more scans before they died we probably lynch sheep or hell SBell before them and finish the game off sooner rather than playing percentages. Thumb bites just don't do that for you if the town is wrong about the number of scum left until it's too late. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 3:31:16 AM #144 | Like say Tom had bit his thumb at Lea instead of 5tar. You think 50% chance she's not scum keeps her alive? I don't --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 3:29:43 AM #143 | turbopuns3 posted... Thumb-Biter mortally, iron clad confirms town players beyond shadow of a doubt with 1 scum left, It only works when town knows there is one scum left. If Tom bit his thumb at Sheep, Lea, Cam, they're not confirmed till today and they're already dead. He bites his thumb at one of us, scum course corrects and just kills one of us Like I said you're just not thinking it through well enough if you dumb it down that much. Mortal lock scans that are not useful till the last day of the game are often not useful because the targets have been weeded out. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 3:26:09 AM #141 | Like if SBell actually is scum I think over time he's had the best argument for voting him other than maybe sheep But it's like naw we gotta lynch the unscanned. Gotta play them percentages, even if we think Cam is town. Gotta do it. Bleh, whatever. You have fun dude. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 3:22:35 AM #140 | I think you're being a bit conceited in general, really. Like, you're up on your island, deliberating, looking down on my ideas cause you didn't come to em. I think there's probably been better scumhunting to be had during this day by discussing with people. Yeah one of us are scum but two of us are town. Whatever you're doing, it taking so long and you getting no reactions while doing it, is probably not nearly as helpful as you think it is. Honestly, to vent a bit, this town in general has been conceited. It's probably why we've had so many mislynches. No one is willing to listen to arguments anymore. So many in this game saying "but mah gut" and won't move votes around for anything it's like "okay your gut says this but can you respond to this point here" and they're like "good point BUT I don't agree with it" I mean it's telling when I feel I've compromised the most out of players in this game, between putting votes on dowolf to get him to claim and wavering on my conviction with you yesterday. Historically I feel I've been more conceited than most in this game but man these days it seems a lot worse. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 3:10:56 AM #137 | I guarantee you it's probably more valuable than rereading all of day 1 but you do you. Follow your process. Dr House would not be so heavy handed in discarding things though let me tell you. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 3:06:38 AM #135 | Anyone can discard any useful information they want. I'm just saying you're not thinking it through well enough if you don't think there's value in it. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 3:02:29 AM #133 | I definitely disagree there. You say scum kills Tom before scanners and I'm just not thinking that makes sense. If we knew for sure or if anyone was even pitching 5 scum that'd be one thing but everyone was saying 6. Scans are useful for clearing people before they get mislynched. Tom only clears people at this step, and if scum is smart with kills they can weed out the ones that are not lynch targets. Say for example yesterday we thought it was two scum and we lynch sheep and say Tom scanned me and a dead person. Scum kills me and yeah, information not being actionable till final 3 or 4 is a huge drawback. Huge. I'd be shocked if scumteam thought he was a concern before the two scanners And it's not even a matter of breadcrumbs necessarily (though I do think those were breadcrumbs because it was such a non-sequitur) as much as "which of us did Tom suspect most" and the answer is SBell easily there. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 2:50:18 AM #129 | turbopuns3 posted... Doesn't matter. Tom obviously could clear people more effectively than either Ben or 5tarscream (most likely anyway) Not really Consider a hypothetical where Tom used his ability on Lea and Sheep and lived two more nights. Do you think town avoids lynching them based on that with the fear of two scum still out there? We're at this point and Tom's clearing has done nothing There is a chance it could matter, but it's unlikely it matters in time --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 2:47:54 AM #128 | turbopuns3 posted... The only person SBell should want to kill would be me. However, because nobody else would want to kill me, SBell can't kill me so he'd have to no kill. Also I disagree with this. While you can argue I'd only want to kill Ulti I'm not sure this is much better. SBell has been lightly (not as heavily as Ulti, despite his claims, else I'd be dead) anti-me this whole game too. As scum trying to reason out both of them seems less reasonable than trying to just sell puns on SBell, to me. I think saying I'd no kill is overthinking it and I'd gamble the risk of people trying to pin it on me that Ulti. But maybe that would be a misplay. And I think Ulti and SBell could both justify killing you puns to the point where I don't think SBell is giving himself up by doing so. I do think it fits SBell's personality to not want to argue me to death in a death match though, which is what he'd have to do in a three way with me and Ulti even if he had an advantage coming in. I am not saying what you're saying has no merit but I think you're being a bit hasty to discard ideas you did not come up with between this and the Tom thing. The Tom thing in particular doesn't really make sense when you think about it. If 5tarscream got one less scan off I still think there's 2 scum yesterday, and the rest of you were one day behind me, so Tom's information he can give is really limited if it's only useful at final 3/4. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/15/19 1:43:41 AM #126 | UltimaterializerX posted... turbopuns3 posted...In fact yeah, with 1 scum left after death's lynch, Tom can hard confirm someone as town every night where a kill happens. Of course scum would shoot him directly. I don't know maybe we're all scum because no one thought of it immediately? I was just 'corrected' on this and I've been running at it since last game day. That wasn't intuitive to me that Tom would autoclear every night he didn't draw the kill successfully but yeah I guess that does make sense. However I will tell you that it's still not that good as puns is implying. Conventional wisdom until yesterday was that it was two scum. It only becomes obvious by the end of the game that there are only one scum. Many of the clears by that time are dead, particularly since Tom is generally going to be thumbing suspicious folk. Scans are still better clears cause it prevents a mislynch now since town was speculating two scum. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/14/19 10:44:52 PM #119 | UltimaterializerX posted... Can you HONESTLY blame me?! I do cause I don't actually think my scum play is very good. I think my town play is stronger. Every game you've been citing I've been third party, or mafia hunting third party. That's basically town play when you boil it down. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/14/19 10:24:21 PM #116 | I feel good about Puns determining SBell the most likely scum as I have. I really think if you took the "don't wanna get fooled by scum Lopen!!!" hat you would come to that as well, just based off today's interaction even. SBell's push on me has been completely absurd from the view of someone who could have lynched me yesterday very easily --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/14/19 10:17:59 PM #114 | UltimaterializerX posted... You went from calling him a flavor trap to lynching him, for reasons I still don't understand if you actually are town. Stop beating that dead horse dude You repeatedly saying I said something that was a very minor part of my argument does not make it a good argument --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/14/19 10:15:07 PM #113 | UltimaterializerX posted...
He voted SBell several times. On day 3 he was on the SBell lynch early. On day 1 he was on the SBell push late. He hadn't voted us three ever. He also cited Chris at random the day he died, specifically in a town calling context, who called all of us as town, which I think was a hint (SBell was dead last on Chris's town list) And scum shooting Tom directly doesn't seem likely when we had two confirmed cops on the table. Even if SBell is a super godfather the extra scans limit the mislynch pool. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | ^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Shapeshifter - Day 19 |
| Lopen 07/14/19 8:45:20 PM #35 | T-1000 Morrigan --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | ^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Shapeshifter - Day 19 |
| Lopen 07/14/19 7:38:56 PM #3 | Dante Loki --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/14/19 6:53:29 PM #108 | Obellisk posted... Lopen, was fluffy early, and only when called out on it did he begin to fill the game with actual content. Unfortunately it was unhelpful because he liked to argue theory over actual game. And then he spent the rest of the game continuing to argue various theories in order to manipulate town into lynching town. There were two scum lynched this game that were not purely scans. I spearheaded one of them. You can't actually say I was unhelpful. I'd argue scans aside it's hard to argue I wasn't the second most helpful player in the game. Hell most of the town lynches I argued against. Granted I argued for other town lynches that did not occur, but you are the one being manipulative to present the game in that way --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/14/19 6:49:24 PM #106 | Obellisk posted...
Sheep had voted me earlier in the day He had not voted you earlier in the day This thinking does not follow. He would absolutely vote me if the alternative was no lynch or him. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/14/19 6:42:36 PM #103 | (3) Sheep: Lopen, puns, SBell Wait no SHEEP would need to revote. You know, the guy who was lynched? Are you kidding me here. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/14/19 6:40:56 PM #102 | Obellisk posted... See my previous post. No one is going to follow me to the right lynch. I bended the knee to puns. It yielded the wrong result, but I'd still do it again. They didn't need to follow you. I was at -1 for a lot of the day. Ulti would just need to revote. It's very easy. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
| Topic | English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement |
| Lopen 07/14/19 6:35:18 PM #98 | Obellisk posted... All I've said is that my flavor makes no fucking sense for the scum team based on what has flipped for scum. And you have yet to even try to explain how it fits, cause you know it doesn't. No one's flavor fits the scumteam theme that's the whole point of a flavor godfather. Obellisk posted... I don't recall having an opportunity to hammer you and at the end of the day you were not being lynched. Also, and let's not lie to ourselves. No one was or is going to listen to my opinions this game. I'll put in the effort sure, but what's it worth in the grand scheme of this game. You think Ulti was going to stay off if you vote me? Come on. You don't need to hammer to get me lynched. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
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