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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/16/18 1:13:51 AM
#343
Yeah a lot of help that was me and numbers and your occasional saves couldn't even get him stats :(
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Topicwho voted for tifa but would have voted for mega man classic?
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11/16/18 1:11:14 AM
#9
Mega Man has a whimsical fun feeling to him. I like that. He's not exactly complex, but he's got a solid design and the power stealing thing is cool.

Mega Man X is Mega Man with the fun sucked out of him. He's a boring character with some poor attempts at characterization tossed in in an attempt to give him depth. He's got a more serious edge to him which works to his detriment and his pacifist gimmick is super stupid considering he blows so much shit up.
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TopicAbout 3 weeks in, what was the one result you're most annoyed you didn't see com
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11/16/18 1:03:48 AM
#4
Probably Vivi taking the bottom quadrant I guess. I kinda forgot his Mario upset when making my bracket

I mean my bracket was super dead either way but that one I would've honestly picked

Oh also I have Charizard > Bowser via input error which irritates me but whatever.
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Topic* 2018 CBX Guru Contest - Results, Discussions and Eliminations, Part One *
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11/16/18 12:59:21 AM
#249
Kirby and Alucard seem to be big favorites right now if it makes you feel better
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/16/18 12:54:49 AM
#414
I couldn't imagine Ulti successfully rallying anything to be honest. He always phrases things in such an antihype way.
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TopicHahaha! Remember when "gurus" were arguing on Mega Man X/Mewtwo?
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11/16/18 12:46:53 AM
#11
Basically. Had Chief > Drake in r2 (which I'm going to call that all Tails and a small moral victory since Chief > Drake looks likely) and Dedede > Ocelot which I'm counting as a moral victory since it was a huge upset that came real close.
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TopicHahaha! Remember when "gurus" were arguing on Mega Man X/Mewtwo?
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11/16/18 12:41:29 AM
#9
Called this division almost perfectly, in rare form

Have Luigi taking next round
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TopicReject Battle X! TIEBREAKER: Midna v. Celes Chere
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11/16/18 12:14:14 AM
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Celes
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/16/18 12:07:04 AM
#399
Still delusional about MMX's strength

Luigi gonna expose that boy as unworthy to the claim of #10
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Topic[TTCB] TIEBREAKER: Sephiroth vs. Estelle Bright vs. Leon Kennedy vs. Goro Majima
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11/16/18 12:05:59 AM
#21
Sephiroth
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/16/18 12:04:36 AM
#391
Luigi will 54-46 Tifa book it
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/16/18 12:03:06 AM
#337
GenesisSaga posted...
Outside of like one or two pity votes from JonPen, Rikku savers have never done a damned thing for me so why should I lift a finger for them?


Random aside I feel like if I let this way of thinking control my save decisions I'd never save Seymour or Tidus
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 11:55:21 PM
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
we can assume that MMX was en route to a 300-400 vote win before that kicked in


There was never ever anything to support X getting more than like 50-100 vote squeaker other than your woeful misunderstanding of how match trends work
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/15/18 11:48:37 PM
#334
I think most people don't think of this game in terms of "I'm going to support literally everything from this game" (unless it's FFIX)
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 11:44:55 PM
#376
LeonhartFour posted...
Tifa is the only joy I have left


Luigi sends his regards
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/15/18 11:43:29 PM
#332
I'd have been behind Red XIII in year of XIII if it wasn't the boring ass Red XIII
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 11:41:38 PM
#368
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Why would anyone go through the trouble of stuffing votes, but stop at 30 or so?


If you're doing something as basic as using a VPN the ip pool isn't limitless
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 11:39:44 PM
#364
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Lopen that is a quality typo can i use it in the future


Haha that's awesome. My phone is truly smart sometimes
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/15/18 11:37:33 PM
#328
GenesisSaga posted...
That described everyone left including Seymour though.


My point is if Rikku is your favorite left that hasn't wronged you then why not vote her. At this point in the game the fact that she's had 5 top 10s or whatever shouldn't matter really
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 11:34:18 PM
#353
Wait did BlAcK_TuRtLE pick Weaker over Lloyd back in the day because it'd explain so much
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/15/18 11:00:20 PM
#312
v_charon posted...
For me personally, a character who matches Vivi in top 10s does not need my help.


Any character who hasn't won a contest needs help
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 10:58:39 PM
#295
KamikazePotato posted...
Are we going to ignore the actual numbers I just posted heavily implying that Tifa still wins even if you remove all rallies


This deserves to be repeated. Those registered vote totals are pretty damning. FF has been cleaning up in the anon votes this contest.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 10:56:32 PM
#289
UltimaterializerX posted...
Aren't you a small business owner? If you are you know full well there is absolutely a right way and a wrong way of looking at things. Double standards flat-out do not work.


Rallying in close matches is fine seems to be the standard that's held by most in here. A double standard is only called such if you can't draw a clear distinction between the scenarios.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 10:53:48 PM
#283
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
There's no fucking difference whatsoever. A contest result was affected by a few idiots on this board. It doesn't matter whether those idiots brought in 100 or 10,000 votes, it changed a match result and fucked over everyone else's bracket.


Not really. Calling a match that was within 100 "right" was basically a coinflip. Those matches are so close they can change just based on the day of the week they're run. You get lucky or you don't. Calling a match wrong where your guy was up 10k before the rally is actually getting fucked over because the wrong pick won.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 10:39:03 PM
#267
I think there are a few lines to draw when disliking vs liking rallies

1. Overwhelming numbers that can totally drown out our votes
2. You think it's likely more cheating than actual rally
3. The rallying is very one sided
4. The rallying favored something you don't like

I think all of these are distinct reasons to be anti rally for some or most and not for others. Only the last one potentially applies to the Tifa/MMX match. It was a much more fair rally than most of the ones people here complain about

I think the 1st or 3rd reasons turn off most people on this board, with a sprinkle of the 4th cause we're all rooting for our guys. Me it's mostly 2 but all the others are slight turnoffs too
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 10:25:46 PM
#256
I've got no inconsistency with rallies. If I think it looks like an actual rally I like it (unless it's for Pokemon cause screw them). If I think it appears unnatural and more like vote stuffing I don't. This one seemed legit. Probably had some vote stuffing from both sides because I'm sure they all do, but mostly legitimate.

I even liked the L-Block rally. Rooted against it passionately, but liked it in the end. That being said there's something different even with that one vs a small scope thing like this one.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/15/18 8:46:01 PM
#258
Like I'm not saying you had to be here to fulfill your obligations if you're not here you're not here but I just want to make it clear that it's not the same and charon does have some justification in being upset, because it's clearly not the same value
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/15/18 8:41:35 PM
#256
KommunistKoala posted...
A save is a save


Nah. It's different because the number of available NR scavengers willing to save Seymour was some number that can be expended, and paid by literally any Seymour saver. If you save you need one less NR (which as said, is a finite resource as not every NR is taken) to advance

It was illustrated quite well because Charon offered another NR for Seymour and no one took it
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/15/18 8:28:56 PM
#248
Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Koala was late to the round and we had an hour 1 going, it couldn't even get to hour 2 for his trade with Genny for Seymour before the round was over. Hence him NR'ing


Ah

Well still very poor form. While I see that he couldn't fulfill both obligations due to time a NR isn't as valuable as an in round save and that shouldn't be accepted as adequately making things right to the point where you should feel at ease offering NRs for your guy
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/15/18 8:14:50 PM
#230
swordz9 posted...
Is there some reason he didnt just save Seymour himself this round? I dont really get it


That's the poor form to me. Why did that happen again?

Claiming an NR albatross has less value than saving what you owe yourself because the albatrosses are a limited resource that anyone can claim
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/15/18 8:06:19 PM
#211
Did someone die or what
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/15/18 8:01:13 PM
#187
Cid Pollendina
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TopicWhy did they lose? Tails, X, Amaterasu, KOS-MOS
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11/15/18 7:55:12 PM
#11
Hbthebattle posted...
X couldnt beat XXX.


I was going to post this myself was beaten to the low hanging (but excellent) fruit
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 7:14:46 PM
#100
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Tifa JUST rallied herself from what should have been a ~400 vote deficit to win the match


lol

She rallied from like a 50 vote deficit that was arguably caused by X rallies to begin with
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1305
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11/15/18 7:07:34 PM
#71
Golden Axe leading by 278 what a day to be alive.
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TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 6
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11/15/18 7:06:06 PM
#266
Vivi's probably just stomping the rally overflow. I would love to see this hold but I doubt it.
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Day 95 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
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11/15/18 6:57:57 PM
#134
Seymour Guado
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1304
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11/15/18 6:38:20 PM
#431
ExThaNemesis posted...
Black Turtle is mostly mad because his smarmy arrogant "THIS IS HOW THE TRENDS ARE AND THEY HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS FROM DAY ONE" posts are looking more and more ridiculous by the second.


This is actually true

If the trends matched what he was claiming this wouldn't even be a match you could actually rally to begin with. Tifa stalled long and hard to reach this point when she was supposed to just roll over.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1304
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11/15/18 6:34:15 PM
#403
Lmao this is so dumb ah love it maggle.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1304
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11/15/18 5:38:37 PM
#215
I don't really buy these porn reddit rallies mattering but Tifa is starting to make major gains and it's a pretty hilarious story so I'll choose to believe it
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1304
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11/15/18 5:10:51 PM
#155
MMX isn't really generic main character guy

MMX is actually sub generic main character guy because what little characterization he has is actively bad. He's basically whiny about violence (while mercilessly blowing shit up) and then nothing ever comes of it.
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Topicwho voted for tifa but would have voted for mega man classic?
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11/15/18 5:06:25 PM
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Every other Mega Man character we've seen in the brackets > Tifa >= Sigma (iffy, might vote him might not) > Mega Man X.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1304
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11/15/18 5:03:46 PM
#146
Like put it another way... I'd vote literally every other Mega Man character we've seen in these contests over Tifa but Mega Man X.

That includes Dr. Wily, Sigma, Servbot, and Metal Man.

Mega Man X is just whatever though.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1304
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11/15/18 5:00:00 PM
#141
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
I like FF7 as much as the next guy (well maybe not as much as some of the lunatics in this topic) and I never really understood the Tifa love. The whole 'pretending Cloud is who he says he is' never sat well with me.


I'm not a huge fan of Tifa but I understand love for Mega Man X much less tbh. I'm not one of those guys that's going to say he has no character-- he has a well defined character but it's a pretty dull one particularly since it's never really explored due to weak continuity in the MMX series. Standard Mega Man is much more fun.
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TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 6
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11/15/18 4:54:22 PM
#254
Lopen's Unofficial Analysisx2

Vivi vs Ganondorf
I want to believe in Vivi but I just can't. ZELDA will pull through when the going gets tough. I think this one is going to be more interesting for speculating on Vivi vs Dante what may have been than as an actual match. Vivi is probably vaguely stronger than Dante this year, but probably not enough to make it not a debatable match.

Ganondorf with 55.87%

Pikachu vs Zero

Pikachu has just looked stronger here, and unlike with Yoshi I don't feel Zero is the type to exploit anything regarding fanbase overlaps (also Yoshi failed to do so anyway) so yeah. See ya later Zero.

Pikachu with 56.41%
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1304
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11/15/18 4:36:16 PM
#124
Tifa being the strongest non-Cloud FFVII party member isn't surprising. Aside from the obvious design stuff, she's in the game the most among party members, and she's been used in side material more often than pretty much all the other party members aside from possibly Yuffie (who, as much as I hate to say it, is not in the running for strongest party member for obvious plot reasons)

I think it's more Vincent dropped off a cliff due to no one remembering why the hell they liked him in the first place than anything and Tifa and Aeris (who should be expected to be weaker than Tifa for many reasons) holding relatively steady.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1304
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11/15/18 4:21:12 PM
#111
Yeah I think Mega Man X will probably win-- I've thought he will probably win since Tifa capped her lead at under 200, but Mega Man vs FFVII also isn't really a matchup we see that often and trends are formed by two entrants not one (Mega Man vs Master Chief at this gap at this point of the match would favor Master Chief, for example) so I mean, yeah, the overconfidence is rather silly, particularly since he called for Mega Man X to take over for like several hours in a row before it actually happened.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1304
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11/15/18 4:10:22 PM
#105
The fallacy in comparing Mega Man vs Crono trends with Mega Man vs Tifa trends should be obvious but you know, let him have his fun.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1304
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11/15/18 3:08:23 PM
#75
82 with that last update, with X leading 72-10
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1304
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11/15/18 3:06:44 PM
#73
Peru's vote total is likely at about 81 if anyone is actually curious and not just being silly. About 12 hours ago it was a little over 50.
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