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MariaTaylor posted...

where's 2D

2025
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_foolmo_
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Waluigi1 posted...

So did he know about her because of force shenanigans, or was it more teasing of a past or connection that Rian fucked up? Or did JJ himself forget about it? Or am I missing something?

I think there were tons of seeds intentionally planted in TFA specifically for the next director to have material to work with. Rian seems to have ditched most of those but they might come back in 9.

Kylo's reaction to "the girl from Jakku" and the backstory of her parents ditching her on Jakku after Kylo's massacre is what made me think her parents were from the academy (still nobodies). I kinda wish they went with that, but 8 was all about Rey connecting with Kylo so it would've been redundant.
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MrGreenonion posted...

Eh during the Jabba's Palace sequence it's very similar to what Anakin wore in Revenge of the Sith.

Well Anakin's is different from the robes too
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_foolmo_
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fool
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They marketed themselves into a corner with the Tatooine garb

That being said, Luke had his own very different Jedi outfit

Or they just explain it with this which is kinda cheap imo

It has long been hypothesized that the first known Jedi came from Tatooine, and as such, wore loosely fitting robes made of low quality fabric

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_foolmo_
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Literally none of them have appealed to nostalgia except maybe OoT with LttP but that's just due to Nintendo's method of copying their latest 2D game for 3D to reduce risk

Until BOTW
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Still upset the Uncharted clone Star Wars game got canned.

Apparently in the video it says it hasn't yet
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They just tried doing that
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Probably some of the teams (not the Zelda team, which apparently was made up entirely of young devs who had nostalgia boners for old Zelda games)
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Gorogoa for sure, Hat in Time is close though
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We can, it just needs to be in the Jedi Knight series not Battlefront

But all your nerds raved about Battlefront for decades (even though the old games were also mediocre grindy wastes of time) so this is what we get
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Wait I just read a clarification of the ending and it DOES make sense now and it's even better than I thought
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Just finished Hang the DJ and... it was really damn good. The bulk of the story was enjoyable enough, but it had the same weak tech justifications and unrealistic personal reactions that makes other Black Mirror episodes pretty lame. However the ending really nailed it and brought the whole thing together (even though it didn't really make sense but that's ok).

Are the rest of the S4 episodes on that level? Or more like previous seasons?
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_foolmo_
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I don't think anyone would argue OT Luke wasn't a mary sue though
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The truth is that all speech is inherently unprotected because it requires flawed humans to protect it through a flawed legal system

All the arguing about hate speech and "omg I should be able to say the n word!!!!!!" is purely for some sort of societal lip service that satisfies your naive/childish/unnecessary desire for your morals to be approved by the authorities, like asking mom for permission after dad says no
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_foolmo_
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05 for both tbh

also this is some buzzfeed bullshit isn't it
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KujikawaRising posted...

It was a guy in the suit in TFA, was it not?

wat
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There's not that many jokes in TLJ but how does that make it okay? How does that make them fit in more?
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P3 had the best character interactions by far. P4 characters were cool in an anime sense where you pick your waifu or whatever, but P3 felt like a group of people who needed each other for survival, not just cuz they are bored.
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College football is subsidized by student tuition, which is either the 1st or 2nd most inflated industry in the US

The NFL gets enough subsidies too though, they shouldn't complain
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Jeff Zero posted...

I'm curious what makes the game visual vomit to you since I usually hear nothing but praise for the presentation

It has 3 completely different art styles that clash with each other. Framerate is garbage. Very low detail environments (except for a couple of areas where the framerate really dies). The generic green grassy field is the only thing that looks actually good.
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

I wanna know how Poe had never seen Holdo despite her being the Resistance's second-in-command and despite the Resistance seemingly numbering no more than a few hundred people. What kinda shoddy operation is that.

He is so obsessed with shooting stuff he has only actually met Leia and Finn. That's why he was so easily able to sacrifice those dozens of nameless people during the bombing run.
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Nier Automata - PS4

Achieves literally everything it tries to do in its story, gameplay, presentation, entirely holistically, which is insane given it's one of the most ambitious and risky games ever. The only absolute must play of the year.

Zelda BOTW - Wii U

Some nuggets of Zelda goodness are hidden inside this horribly broken mess of mechanical and visual vomit

Persona 5 - PS4

Exceeded the hype. Not only is the presentation and gameplay super improved, it added a ton more content than the other Personas, and it's pretty much all good. The story and setting and characters are super unique and surprising yet successful (although the main story definitely peaked during the first arc, but all the social links are the best in the series).

Gorogoa - PC

Bar none the best puzzle game in the "strange perspective tricks" genre. Such a pure an concise experience that I will definitely play it many times again and I'm sure it will be just as good.

Prey - PC

Haven't finished it yet but it is the pinnacle of Looking Glass style games. It takes so many standard conventions of the genre and turns them into awesome, unique, fun mechanics. Amazing level design and visual effects and characters and everything. Movement and shooting controls are pretty weak though which make combat really boring and annoying when you just want to explore and see the story.
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_foolmo_
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Yeah all the jokes without dialogue were great

The naked Kylo scene for example was hilarious until Rey commented on it and ruined it
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Luke certainly hasn't been gone for 30 years. Between that description ("vanished") and what we can ascertain from two movies, it seems like he hasn't been gone THAT long

The academy massacre was when Kylo was like 15 and he's 30ish now so it was probably around 15 that Luke has been missing, which makes sense
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banananor posted...

not giving up in the face of failure and adversity, and trying to help at all is now bland, hyper-arrogant, and one-dimensional? i think this part of your post is just a bad argument

Yes. How much do you need to destroy with your own hands before you start to question whether your "help" is a good idea? For one-dimensional superheros, never. For actual people, it's a difficult question.

Then there's the aspect of his time and the Jedi's time being over. It's like Toph in Korra. She had literally the same arc as Luke, minus the massive guilt over Kylo (though she did have a different guilt). But no one thought her character was ruined or incompatible with her ATLA self.
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I just got an amazing idea for a political cartoon where scrooge is turmp and the ghosts are hillary
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Why would he exile himself after that mistake?

He created Kylo and got everyone at his academy murdered and caused all the future events, including getting Han killed (i.e. failing Leia with her son AND her husband).

I'm no OT expect but was Luke really the kind of person to shrug all that off and be like "well it's still up to me to save everyone"? What a bland, hyper-arrogant, one-dimensional character in that case.

Luke came out of exile in this movie and they explain all the reasons why.
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_foolmo_
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That counts as trying
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Luke's nephew, as we understand it, was a young man who hadn't even done anything yet.

So how many years or murdering and conquering and killing should he have waited before trying to kill Kylo?

Obviously it was a mistake to try to kill Kylo, that's literally the entire point of Luke's story. That's why he exiled himself and threw away the force, and that's why he was finally able to redeem himself internally and move on as a force ghost.

All your questions have answers in the movie, not sure what you're missing.
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_foolmo_
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KamikazePotato posted...

Maybe because I have little nostalgia for the series

Right. And it needs to go beyond nostalgia, there needs to be a sacred reverence for the OT
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I thought that was because of bad direction and/or a clash between Rian and Disney
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Oh that post is from 4 years ago

But he's literally saying the same shit today so I guess it still works?
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Holy shit that Krugman is the most pro-bitcoin post ever written probably. He couldn't have done better if he tried.

He literally attacked it as a story of value, the ones thing it is undeniably good at, instead of the harder to argue medium of exchange requirement. The rhetoric he used for why it's bad, presenting "monitor their citizens" as a desirable thing... his audience of elites and only elites has never been more clear.
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_foolmo_
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That sounds like some grade A Rian Johnson BS
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They need to move that divider line about 7 years back to find the true cause
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_foolmo_
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they have a general holdo
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WazzupGenius00 posted...

Watched it today

So what's the reason people are hating it so much? Is it the way Luke dies?

I explained the idea before, it's like taking all the beloved toys down off the shelf and throwing them in a pile and lighting them on fire to watch all the spectacular colors
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We need a better title and like 50% of the board has Corrik ignored so let's use this

I just did a 3 hour podcast with my friends talking about TLJ and TFA and I threw in all the stuff about balance and failure that we have been talking about... I'll link it when it gets posted
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A single X wing also destroyed the entire Death Star so if we're talking about single ace pilots then literally anything goes in Star Wars.

But I guess the first order didn't have one of those aces this time. And neither did the rebels.

Ultimately all this comes down to "it didn't happen the way I wanted it to happen"
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Maul served his purpose of losing to the good guys really effectively
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Lopen posted...

Like I'm just saying if you're making Luke act that far out of character, you'd better justify it damn well

It's impossible to justify changes to an enormously nostalgic character to nerds who only see things through the lens of the OT. The only way to win that game is not to play. It's justified inside the movies, that's all.
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Lopen posted...

I mean you guys created the "he's going in to scan him when his guard is down" narrative for the record. If you need to unpack (the kind word-- create could also be used if you're less generous) that much of the storytelling that's probably a sign it's not really written very well.

Just because everyone ITT is terrible at arguing an easy point with direct support in the movie doesn't mean you're right
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Lopen posted...

I guess Kylo Ren just got universe destroying darkness the day Luke realized it, literally out of nowhere. Makes sense!

It built up over time but that night he did "out of nowhere" realize how far and out of control it was. That's what he said. That's why he was so afraid of Rey's minor darkness, because he saw with Kylo how quickly it went from a spark to a raging fire (and also that the raging fire was his fault).
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Anyone here wanna argue why the earth isn't flat while we're at it?
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Lopen posted...

Dude was asleep-- if you just want to confront him wait till morning

"hm he's got incredible darkness in him that will destroy us all... welp, let me put this off till morning!"

This argument is 100% braindead and you're just listening to the words coming out of your own mouth at this point
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_foolmo_
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I don't get why people need Luke to be such a perfect goody goody even years later. That's the kind of saccharin 70s crap the movie is fighting. It's like being mad that Aang was a shitty father in Korra, even though it makes sense and made for such a better character.

If you're really desperate you can consider the implication that Leia wanted Luke to "take care of her son" in the sense that he would not allow him to turn to the dark side, even if that meant killing him.
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Spelunky. Literally no reason why I shouldn't like it, but I don't.
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Imagine if all the time you spent playing games was spent watching hallmark movies instead
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Is TDS what you say to give Trump credit for inventing partisanship?
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