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htaeD posted...

My second thought was that maybe scumLea is throwing in the towel due to IGCD dying, but quitting feels out of character for her.

Nah this is never it. If she is scum she is just doubling down and not bowing to the pressure.

Obellisk posted...

by all means, ho back and reread the first 4 pages of ulti posts and show me which one says to you "I'm town power and hiding it"

Gonna save that for later as well but I swear he flatout said something about having something to control things.

MZero posted...

Why is No Lynch leading wtf

What should be leading?

HURRICANE
+3 Orbeetle
+2 Torchic
+1 Aron
-1 Buzzwole
-2 Barboach
-3 Shelmet

CLOSE COMBAT
+3 Totodile
+2 Glimmora
+1 Wurmple
-1 Guzzlord
-2 Sliggoo
-3 Chi-Yu

Obellisk posted...

that's how you read that?

Read it like he probably has some power which could be anything, town or scum even, but definitely role implying. Did you read it as just implying strong presense?

Obellisk posted...

Ulti loves outside the standards of town and scum. If Ulti isn't doing something HE normally does it's concerning.

He is clearly implying some powers though, that is very much in line with usual Ulti to me.

Someone should take up Lopen's request, that sounds fun for until I am off and will try to deduce. So far the case is pretty weak and most discussion it sparked was a misunderstanding.

htaeD posted...

If it helps Ctes, I've had a lot of those feelings myself from time to time. (Not just due to my timezone either.)
Though what is your priority at the moment is the question I have right now.

I will also state that you at least deserve patience more than someone like Lea tbh.

I don't feel like I have ever really been suspected for timezone actually. It was just a bit frustrated to see the point I said in the sign up topic that I signed up with conditionally be used against me and then I misunderstood one of Lopen's posts. For a priority I will have to put you on hold for when I am actually off.

Obellisk posted...

Is anyone else concerned that Ulti hasn't faked a claim and is acting like he can swing votes with a beat of his chest?

Concerned that he has not done something scum does?

One thing is keeping up another thing is posting on phone while doing something else. It's not even too much timezones. Anyway, I misunderstood a post, sorry about that! Everything else I think I made clear, so let's just leave it at that. I'll take the compliment although I'm personally feeling super rusty and then I don't think it's useful to antone try to discuss it further.

It's a good lead yeah, let's see what she says

I have never called her first priority though. She stands out because it's more unusual for her and because of the unexplained vote.

On the contrary, she could have just not voted that and (perhaps depending on the team) I'm not sure a scum team would prefer NL. If she was a clear priority I would have voted her.

If Lea doesn't come back ever then it's definitely a hard approve. For now it's definitely soft as pending on what she says about the NL vote. I would not immediately think Lea actively doesn't show up at all after being sussed for the NL vote.

Ah okay. Well, generally I would rather think out loud before collecting thoughts regardless of how strong it is. I think it's much better to leave some than no thoughts. I personally don't feel like my early insight as town is particularly great not helped by the fact that I have been scum or shot early in every game for like over a year but I will take the compliment I suppose. Just to finish up this talk, I will have time to sit down and properly play later until then you will have to live with sporadical posting only. And in that time my I would prefer to hit into the inactive pile, more than I usually would because laying low after losing a member and having NL as the lead makes more sense than generally laying low.

It's not really the agressively neutral part of that post" that was discouraging, but maybe elaborate what you mean by that if I am missing the point.

The only useful takeaway here is in case anyone was arguing otherwise in good faith; if you think I was around all the time when I post on unrelated things with an hour or so inbetween, you are wrong, I am really only around when I post and would rather put out some thoughts than nothing at all.

444 is me being upset about things I have been very considerate about making clear in sign up topics being ignored and trying to elaborate it.

445 and 446 is me being discouraged at a statement that attempting to be around should be worse than just staying away from the game.

Like if you just want to say "your playstyle is trash, be around less" that's just lame. It you use it as a case dit suspicion or attempt to fake then it's just weak.

We have talked in a billion DTCs about how activity dies when people like you are no longer in game and how dull that makes the game and yet you are straight up vouching for being inactive right now.

Lopen posted...

To be clear I think Ctes is worse than inactive. Aggressively neutral.

This is disheartening as f*** because the alternative would be I don't try to keep up until there is a point I can sit down and play for a longer time. Then you have another player around a couple of hours a day at best and having more of those I am sure would make mafia more fun.

No, I get this literally every single game at some point. I have been darn clear in every sign up topic including this one about having stuff basically from when I wake up to I go to sleep many days and can just sporadically check my phone during that, which I do as often as I can in an attempt to participate the most (unlike red and MZero who just doesnt post whenever they get around to keep up more often than not, but I really don't think I am around more than them at all). I am not "here" in those in betweens at all. It's why I often don't sign up and only said that I would be in if it gave better numbers, which Wallz then happily accepted. This is literally how I have played every single game in forever and then you can point on the most recent one and say that I was scum sure but you are also ignoring every other game whether on purpose or not. Besides I got killed in that game mostly because JC absolutely dismantled my "reads" and stuck to it along with my fumbling an attack on Chang and not because of activity.

I think not grouping me in with the inactives and then shading me for inactivity in the same post looks like a forced answer to Lopen's question.

I don't mean to sound rude, I just think that's pretty clear. The advantages are well explained but there is no fun in it and there is less to work with tomorrow so it shouldn't be first priority ever unless you are like certain it's MyLo perhaps.

htaeD posted...

He didnt even make his stance on a NL clear as far as I can tell

Which part of "I'm not opposed to NL in principle but I think pushing for it early into the day is a loss." wasn't clear to you?

Lopen posted...

Ctes who are the scum

Some of the more low laying players, who seems the most deflated after the early shot I think is most likely. Lea is a good lead, I was hoping she would have returned by now.

I am not interested in in going after Corrik, Kirby, Knightz and to a lesser extent you and Chang.

Kirby321 posted...

The last game town won (Simpsons Mafia) had absolutely minimal claiming D1

That's a terrible example because that game exactly had end of d1 trains, three of them, all three scum.

Audino is a living piata, can't not like it.

Tympole is the scariest Pokmon of all time, glad it finished last.

NL debate is more principal than it's logical imo, it doesn't yield much, but the ones of you that are set on it should wait pushing it until tomorrow.

Kirby321 posted...

So why would scum push for NL when the odds of them lynching town is super likely?

Leaving own opinions out of NL entirely, it's that vote trains tend to give a lot of info and agreeing on NL gives none. You know this answer. There is always a mathematically higher chance, that's not a good case by itself.

I'm not opposed to NL in principle but I think pushing for it early into the day is a loss.

Like that there is just ridiculous and vastly overstaying things shadows the good points more often than not. Refereeing decisions haven't been particular helpful and you can name a few for every team. One of the two isn't even a good example, and you can also find opposites.

Three starters for every position is also incorrect. There have little backup on several. They have rotated more home grown players in than Arsenal, it has worked.

There is a ongoing case and it dates no later than about 2018 (probably because they have won everything since then). There would be no 115 case if there was no interest in looking into it. But it's not about spending limits simply, that has not always been a rule, it's mostly about reports.

Did Lea ever show up past the No Lynch vote?

changmas posted...

at this point you are surely scum if you can't see the screaming, bleeding town aura coming off of him

So do you think Lopen is scum for trying to push him or what is your case here? What made Lopen go from almost certainly town?

It's fine, I don't think we need to know more.

Groovy Clothing Vendor who doesn't know what their vending actually does.

Yeah if it's fake they don't say they don't know I think. It would also be absurd to fake but yeah.

Poor Corrik, shoots scum and then people try to go for NL because of it against his wishes

Lopen posted...

What?

If the idea was that the 2 and 2 don't know each other, then I guess thw theory works? But I didn't initially understand if that was the idea.

Lopen posted...

This feels like the best theory

It's the worst theory. It straight up says "the scum team" and not "you".

Leverkusen is winning the league in minutes from now

Do you think Lopen is town, Chang?

Knightz thrashing his vote around is pretty in line with his vibe in the topics before roles imo.

Agreed. But I think the simpler case is neither is scum. What is the reason for thinking any theatre happened beyond "it could"?

It was maybe partially the name, but also the two kills didn't look like they were from the same place iirc.

Someone (I think Plum) did correctly guess two scum teams d2 then, but it wasn't apparent before both teams have lost one. But both teams also had a factorial kill, there was no hint towards other factions in the individual flips.

It does say the scum team, but yeah. It could be that they just have other types of kills for odd nights, but it reads darn clear they don't have the factorial one then.

It's not that crazy to speculate things like two teams with that flip.

Leonhart4 posted...

This Gongaga jungle music slaps

The best

I like exploring in Gongaga, because it doesn't feel as empty.

Definitely not lol

For all the bravado, IGCD only managed to interact with very few people. He wanted to kill Chang and Kirby, he mentioned, the latter was not elaborated.

Amusingly he summoned host himself before getting shot a bit after.

Unless you didn't mean me

Not trying to get rid of him.