Biden is doing almost nothing to stop any of theseThis topic is literally calling him a republican. I didnt say Biden was making himself look good, hes just objectively not a republican.
Not saying he's a Republican but he really doesn't make himself look that good
So if the government threatens to kill us, violent protest should not happen? I mean, the government already is in various parts of this country.
This topic is literally calling him a republican. I didnt say Biden was making himself look good, hes just objectively not a republican.sounds like we agree then, I guess I should note that the "not saying he's a republican" was only in reference to myself
Biden is doing almost nothing to stop any of these
Not saying he's a Republican but he really doesn't make himself look that good
Who were the better options?
Not counting Bernie Sanders, who never stood a chance (sadly).
We often tend to forget that there truly is no "left" in American politics
what's an example of a politician or government you would consider to be "true left"
There is no "true" anything in politics. It's a spectrum.
Bernie and AOC might be the furthest left of well-known politicians.
so what is your ideal "true left"Being "ideal" is not the same as being the "furthest". The furthest left would be complete anarchy, but it's not like most people on the left want that.
if you believe politics is a left-right spectrum, then there must a furthest right, and there must be a furthest left on that spectrum. a spectrum is just a line.
so what is your ideal "true left"
There can't be a true "furthest left" and "furthest right" because things change literally every day. This feels like a very dishonest question, and said user already answered it, based on our current system.
There is no "true" anything in politics. It's a spectrum.
Bernie and AOC might be the furthest left of well-known politicians.
well someone else (not me) used the word "spectrum", and a spectrum literally has a furthest left and a furthest right on it, like the visible spectrum
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when i hear someone say they want someone who's "truly left", i have to wonder what that means, because it's a very fudgy terminology
like your concept of a politician who's "truly left" might be AOC, but the next poster's concept of a politician who's "truly left" could be like, mao zedong, cultural revolution stuff
so it seems like a pretty bad yard stick that's different for everyone
While it's true that spectrums are finite, in that they have ends, spectrums can also change over time, so I'm not sure that actually refutes anything. It feels like you're taking things very literally in order to post dishonestly.
Well that and there is left on different issues, I would argue Obama is farther left on social policies
Yeah the idea that Biden is a Republican and not just that this is what Democrats act is hilariously misguided and ahistorical
the point is that a lot of Millennials and Zoomers have got this idea in their heads that they're supposed to resent biden because he's not a "true leftist"
and i would like to deconstruct that, because i think it's a bullshit argument that's based on nothing more than memes, vibes, and truism
this topic literally accuses biden of being a republican, even though he's enacted the most progressive economic policy since LBJ. i don't think i'm the one who's being dishonest.
At worst the democrats have similar military policies as republicans but outside that most of them are different especially when you have people like Bernie identifying as a democrat. Yep both parties spend plenty on the military, but outside of that they don't really line up similarly often this is even more true when Trump changed the Republican party into what it is today, where it feels like they are becoming more right wing and more conspiracy theory based.
And, listen, maybe I'll get modded for this, I don't know, but... We won't truly be able to get better until older people... Stop being able to vote.As much as I love the optimism, I dont think the old people going away is going to change much. Look at a lot of the GOP ages.
As much as I love the optimism, I dont think the old people going away is going to change much. Look at a lot of the GOP ages.
Lauren Boebert, Anna Paulina Luna and Katie Britt would all be soccer moms if they werent politicians.
And while hes gone now Madison Cawthorn is younger than me and Im not even in my mid thirties yet.
I used to think the same thing when I was a teenager in high school civics. Once all the old people pass away far right politics will die. But more and more young people have embraced hardcore conservatism and far right politics.
That doesnt mean people shouldnt fight for better and more accountable government, but the whole less old people means more leftist politics has always been a myth.
it seems to me like the democratic party, right now, is in danger of following in the footsteps of the republican party.
the republican party went through a purity crusade too, between 1994 (election of newt gingrich) and 2016 (election of donald trump). during this purity crusade, they forced out all the RINOs (republicans in name only). when all of those voices were shut out, it created a platform for truly malevolent opportunists to take over, like trump.
i'm going to be the "both sides" guy here. it isn't great to attack joe biden for putting out an innocuous statement like "violent protest is bad," which 95% of voters probably agree with. it's really destructive to the palestinian cause and the economic causes of the left if these things get associated with political violence in the minds of voters, fairly or not.
As much as I love the optimism, I dont think the old people going away is going to change much. Look at a lot of the GOP ages.
Lauren Boebert, Anna Paulina Luna and Katie Britt would all be soccer moms if they werent politicians.
And while hes gone now Madison Cawthorn is younger than me and Im not even in my mid thirties yet.
I used to think the same thing when I was a teenager in high school civics. Once all the old people pass away far right politics will die. But more and more young people have embraced hardcore conservatism and far right politics.
That doesnt mean people shouldnt fight for better and more accountable government, but the whole less old people means more leftist politics has always been a myth.
To be clear, I'm not talking about Republicans. I'm speaking purely about the left.
I've long since accepted "Republican" is a disease that has no cure in sight.
I do have (misplaced?) hope that, as the left starts to age out and get replaced by younger people, we actually will be able to start to, viably, move further left, so that Joe Biden doesn't have to be the best we can achieve.
joe biden has been the most left-wing president in 50 yearsThats like asking for praise for jumping over a 2 inch high bar. Its both correct and incredibly depressing.
has presided over an incredibly pro-worker, pro-labor, pro-employment administration
and has been rewarded for doing so with the bitter economic resentment of every so-called progressive
Thats like asking for praise for jumping over a 2 inch high bar. Its both correct and incredibly depressing.
Political alignment being a spectrum still doesn't mean there is a "true" anything. The whole concept is a logical fallacy (No True Scotsman). You can only gauge how far left or right someone is, that's it.
This thread's premise is bad and TC should feel bad.
Thats like asking for praise for jumping over a 2 inch high bar. Its both correct and incredibly depressing. Its an exemplar of how fucked this country is if this is the best we can do.
Political alignment being a spectrum still doesn't mean there is a "true" anything. The whole concept is a logical fallacy (No True Scotsman). You can only gauge how far left or right someone is, that's it.
We also had Yang run in 2020 and he was also more left than Biden but didn't get any momentum in his campaign.
Biden originally considered himself a Republican, but ultimately joined the Democratic party because the GOP was too corrupt.
It's unfortunate how the GOP's depravity alienates moderates who would've otherwise been a neat fit.
Yang is not more left than Biden. He's a moderate who supports UBI, that's it. He actually opposes some taxes and social programs that Biden supports.
Yang is not more left than Biden. He's a moderate who supports UBI, that's it. He actually opposes some taxes and social programs that Biden supports.I think this shows why it's not helpful to boil everything down to left v right. They're both moderates, although I think Biden is further to the left on several social issues. They have quite different platforms to each other though.