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CRON
09/18/25 1:22:07 PM
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Absolute spineless pussies who are actively selling out the greatest country to ever exist so they can hold onto their pensions, benefits and hopefully grift via the occasional book deal and speaking arrangement

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5510491-democratic-leaders-charlie-kirk-resolution/

House Democratic leaders will vote in favor of a GOP resolution condemning political violence and celebrating Charlie Kirk in the wake of last weeks fatal shooting of the conservative activist in Utah a measure expected to hit the floor later this week. In a closed-door meeting in the Capitol basement on Thursday morning, top leaders informed rank-and-file lawmakers that they will support the resolution, though they will not push other members to do the same.
The vote is a tricky one for Democrats.

While Democratic lawmakers in the Capitol have been unanimous in condemning Kirks killing and political violence in general they were also no fans of the conservative activist and many of the political positions he promoted. That was especially true in the realm of race and civil rights, where Kirks criticisms of the Civil Rights Act, Martin Luther King, Jr., and gay and transgender rights have been soundly denounced by Democrats on and off of Capitol Hill. Many saw him as a divisive figure in the mold of President Trump.

The GOP resolution, sponsored by Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), promotes two separate messages. The first eulogizes Kirks life and work, praising him as one who engaged in respectful, civil discourse and worked tirelessly to promote unity without compromising on conviction. The second condemns political violence in all forms and calls on all Americans to reject political violence, recommit to respectful debate, uphold American values, and respect one another as fellow Americans.

This weeks vote, then, has created a dilemma for some Democratic lawmakers. If they vote against the resolution, Republicans will attack them for a failure to condemn political violence across the board. If they vote for it, they will be on record lauding, as a unifier, a figure whose political views they deemed toxic and divisive. Its unclear how many Democrats will oppose the resolution. But given the sensitivity of the topic, Democratic leaders are not whipping the vote, instead leaving it to individual lawmakers to decide whether to support the measure.

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Tyranthraxus
09/18/25 1:23:14 PM
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Primary each one

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09/18/25 1:23:24 PM
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We need a left-wing party bad.

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Accolon
09/18/25 1:23:43 PM
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Any Democrat who votes for this is a fascist sympathizer

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legendary_zell
09/18/25 1:24:46 PM
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Support the second one, reject the first.

The party suffering the consequences of his work should know not to lionize him.

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Lonestar2000
09/18/25 1:25:19 PM
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CRON posted...
the greatest country to ever exist
LMFAO

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darkace77450
09/18/25 1:26:37 PM
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If they don't find themselves on the right side of history on this, then I'm done supporting the Democratic Party even in opposition to Trumpism.
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Accolon
09/18/25 1:26:42 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Support the second one, reject the first.

The party suffering the consequences of his work should know not to lionize him.

I think they have to support or reject the whole thing, it's all one resolution.

Obviously the correct answer is reject it, then release a message saying you condemn political violence, but won't celebrate a figure that spread hate and bigotry

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Southernfatman
09/18/25 1:27:32 PM
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Some here wonder why many Democrats get so much hate and criticism. It's because of stuff like this.

The party itself is a big cause of voter apathy and "same thing both sides" thinking.

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refmon
09/18/25 1:28:40 PM
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People here will find someway to defend these Democrats, somehow

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Quezovercoatl
09/18/25 1:29:41 PM
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Couldn't they suggest their own resolution with just the second one?

Making Charlie Kirk an "official hero" as the word of the government is a move that will be devastating to anyone impacted by his hate speech and yet another step to normalizing it we may not be able to come back from
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hivebent4life
09/18/25 1:32:05 PM
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The Democratic Party are voting to honor and celebrate a white supremacist who claimed the Civil Rights Act was a mistake.

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Squall28
09/18/25 1:32:25 PM
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CRON posted...
worked tirelessly to promote unity without compromising on conviction

Bruh

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Accolon
09/18/25 1:33:29 PM
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All I can assume is that Democrats are terrified and are trying to cover their ass so they don't get labeled Antifa and sent to the gulag.

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Srk700
09/18/25 1:34:11 PM
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Nothing says working tirelessly to promote unity like saying the Civil Rights Act was a mistake and constantly dehumanizing the LGBT and non-Christians.

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Kaitouace
09/18/25 1:35:04 PM
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Anyone who votes for this is dead to me.

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Umbreon
09/18/25 1:36:58 PM
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Democrat politicians side with the party that was just saying to outlaw and purge them days ago.

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LightSnake
09/18/25 1:37:02 PM
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I don't think turning the country into a cult of personality for a podcaster most people never heard of will reap many rewards tbqh

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Strider102
09/18/25 1:37:12 PM
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In a lose-lose situation what do you do?

One option leaves you open to attack or worse.

The other option makes your people turn around and run even though they ran away along time ago sitting on the sidelines blaming them for everything anyways.

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jefffan
09/18/25 1:39:16 PM
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Accolon posted...
All I can assume is that Democrats are terrified and are trying to cover their ass so they don't get labeled Antifa and sent to the gulag.
Unfortunately that's going to be the reaction whether they do it or not.

Might as well not.

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Southernfatman
09/18/25 1:40:15 PM
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You can never appease fascists. Democrats should know that.

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Voidgolem
09/18/25 1:40:16 PM
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There is genuinely no reason to support this motion at all besides being complicit. Get them out.

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LightSnake
09/18/25 1:40:35 PM
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Most people don't know who Kirk is and nobody will remember this. I get this from Dems in a +5 Trump district, but safe blue Dems don't have the excuse.

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legendary_zell
09/18/25 1:41:11 PM
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It won't gain them any points with anyone and will lose them support from their own people. They can all individually post about how they condemn political violence. There's no upside, the attacks are already coming.

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Board_hunter567
09/18/25 1:45:26 PM
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I watched a couple summaries of TPUSA events where Kirk invites a bunch of grifters to come on stage and spend 30 minutes calling all Democrats weak, evil communists who must be destroyed while hawking their merchandise/podcasts.

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Srk700
09/18/25 1:46:46 PM
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Strider102 posted...
In a lose-lose situation what do you do?

One option leaves you open to attack or worse.

The other option makes your people turn around and run even though they ran away along time ago sitting on the sidelines blaming them for everything anyways.

Republicans are going to continue attacking angling lies about Democrats whether they go through with this or not, so why does it matter?

What they should do is reject this, and try to push a resolution that condemns political violence without the unnecessary part of glamorizing a white supremacist. Yes, Republicans will claim theyre for political violence for rejecting their version, but as said theyre still going to claim Dems want political violence anyway. At the very least that wouldnt turn away supporters of theirs like this current one would.
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CRON
09/18/25 1:47:03 PM
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Board_hunter567 posted...
I watched a couple summaries of TPUSA events where they invite a bunch of grifters to come on stage and spend 30 minutes calling all Democrats weak, evil communists who must be destroyed while hawking their merchandise/podcasts.
They're appealing to the lowest common denominator and people who had no understanding or interest in politics, civics or social issues before their brains got rotted thanks to Facebook misinformation on affordable smartphones. Talk radio and 24/hr cable news planted the seeds in the 80s-00s but ever since the dumbest fucks imaginable abruptly started using the internet en masse, this is what we have to deal with.

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kaiolino
09/18/25 1:57:41 PM
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Democrats: popularism! follow the polls! dont step out of line!

The polls:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/842de334.jpg

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Solar_Crimson
09/18/25 2:00:30 PM
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It's like they're not even trying to put up a fight.

All for fucking Kirk of all reprehensible people.

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Rantman
09/18/25 2:03:23 PM
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interesting maneuver and when i say interesting in this context i mean "willingly signing your own death warrant huh very interestind"

(We need to get rid of not only the GOP, but also every Democrat who has made it clear they will never stop this from happening again which is most of them.)

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Heineken14
09/18/25 2:04:45 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Support the second one, reject the first.


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TheGoldenEel
09/18/25 2:09:32 PM
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Strider102 posted...
In a lose-lose situation what do you do?

One option leaves you open to attack or worse.

The other option makes your people turn around and run even though they ran away along time ago sitting on the sidelines blaming them for everything anyways.
Yep

the problem is republicans control the news and the narrative so even though they regularly vote against similar virtue signaling resolutions like this, they will use this to relentlessly attack any dem who votes against condemning political violence

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UnfairRepresent
09/18/25 2:11:37 PM
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Accolon posted...
Any Democrat who votes for this is a fascist sympathizer


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creativerealms
09/18/25 2:14:07 PM
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The Democratic establishment is part of the problem.

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Dio
09/18/25 11:15:01 PM
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My hope has vanished.

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Quorthon109
09/19/25 5:42:21 PM
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Here's one guy with some spine

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/535fac2f.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/beb5e251.jpg

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El_Dustino
09/19/25 5:48:23 PM
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And they wonder why the approval rating for their party is at an all time low

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DuneMan
09/19/25 5:51:50 PM
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Strider102 posted...
In a lose-lose situation what do you do?
Well, here's the thing. Appeasement didn't work the last time. It isn't going to work this time. Democrats aren't doing themselves any favors going along with this kind of thing. Honestly they should just blast quotes from Charlie Kirk and call him out for his BS, then call out the BS of anyone supporting Kirk. Now, they already dropped the ball in letting fascists seize enough control to well and truly threaten the end of the country, but even now appeasement isn't going to do anyone any good.

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bobbyrk
09/19/25 5:52:24 PM
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https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2025/roll282.xml

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bc2b5423.png

dammit, image too small to read

anyway, 310-58 passing, 95 Dems voted with Republicans to pass it, with 38 voting present and 26 not voting.

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AndyReklaw
09/19/25 6:00:06 PM
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This is insane. It's not like he was some grand hero or huge benefactor. His main work was advocating for dangerous conservative talking points in schools.

Any democrat with a spine would push for a resolution for every school shooting that happened from now on. Every single one.

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Takuya_Lee
09/19/25 6:02:04 PM
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bobbyrk posted...
https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2025/roll282.xml

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bc2b5423.png

dammit, image too small to read

anyway, 310-58 passing, 95 Dems voted with Republicans to pass it, with 38 voting present and 26 not voting.

Those 95 at least need to be primaried.

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sfcalimari
09/19/25 6:03:26 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/15eb3d42.jpg

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Thanatos_the_Great
09/19/25 6:06:12 PM
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Accolon posted...
Any Democrat who votes for this is a fascist sympathizer

You're being too generous - they're not just sympathisers, they're accomplices.

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Hexenherz
09/19/25 6:06:18 PM
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I'm going to print out George Floyd's biography and post it on my door that day

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hivebent4life
09/19/25 6:22:31 PM
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Why should a black person ever vote Democrat again when most of them just voted to honor a white supremacist?

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Accolon
09/19/25 6:30:34 PM
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We need to demand an explanation from each and every Dem that voted for this.

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Robot2600
09/19/25 6:33:06 PM
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hivebent4life posted...
Why should a black person ever vote Democrat again when most of them just voted to honor a white supremacist?

this is nonsense talk

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kaiolino
09/19/25 6:37:47 PM
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they voted to honor a guy who said the democratic president should be executed

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hivebent4life
09/19/25 6:39:40 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
this is nonsense talk
Its not, the majority of Democrats literally did vote to celebrate a white supremacist.

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The_Wheelman1
09/19/25 6:39:51 PM
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It really seems like democrats are scared to stand up to Trump. They just bend over to him every time.

We need a strong democrat leader badly. Someone who isn't afraid to take a stand against that tyrant in office and make this country a better place for everyone. Not just for rich and straight white men.

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