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FurryPhilosifer
07/04/25 11:36:54 AM
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And not July fourth

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boxoto
07/04/25 11:37:24 AM
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people say both.

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Turbam
07/04/25 11:37:25 AM
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How many footballs would America weigh?

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Mussurana
07/04/25 11:39:32 AM
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Better question, why not September 3rd?

That's when the Treaty of Paris was signed, recognising the US as an independent nation.

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Pipotchi
07/04/25 11:39:38 AM
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Priority of the specific day over month emphasizes its significance.
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Glob
07/04/25 11:45:47 AM
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Pipotchi posted...
Priority of the specific day over month emphasizes its significance.

This is insane. Genuinely crazy.

If you are referring to a specific date, at least within the context of that conversation, it is significant. Which way round you say it doesnt make it more or less significant. It just makes you more or less weird.
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A_Good_Boy
07/04/25 11:46:38 AM
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boxoto posted...
people say both.


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Aristoph
07/04/25 11:47:22 AM
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It's pretty simple, really.

Someone asking about the date = "July 4th"
Someone asking about holiday-related things = "Fourth of July"

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Mussurana
07/04/25 11:47:59 AM
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To take a random date, you can say the 17th of February, or February the 17th.

Both are correct in English.

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HeeathLivesOn
07/04/25 11:52:13 AM
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Turbam posted...
How many footballs would America weigh?

To determine how many American footballs the weight of America (the U.S. population) would equal, let's break it down step by step.
1. Weight of an Average American:
  • The average adult in the U.S. weighs about 80 kg (~176 lbs).
  • The U.S. population is roughly 335 million people.
2. Total Weight of America (U.S. Population):
Total weight=Average weightPopulation=80 kg335,000,000=26,800,000,000 kg
Total weight=Average weightPopulation=80kg335,000,000=26,800,000,000kg
3. Weight of an American Football:
  • A standard NFL football weighs between 1415 oz (per league regulations).
  • Converting to kilograms:
  • 15 oz0.425 kg
  • 15oz0.425kg
4. Calculating the Number of American Footballs:
Number of footballs=Total weight of AmericaWeight of one football=26,800,000,000 kg / 0.425 kg63,058,823,529
Number of footballs=Weight of one footballTotal weight of America =0.425kg / 26,800,000,000kg 63,058,823,529
Final Answer:
6.311010
6.311010
So, the weight of America (the U.S. population) is roughly 63.1 billion American footballs.
Comparison:
  • Earlier, we calculated that America weighs about 62.3 billion soccer balls.
  • Since American footballs are slightly lighter (~0.425 kg vs. ~0.43 kg for soccer balls), the number is marginally higher.
This means America weighs roughly 63 billion American footballs!

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PeteyParker
07/04/25 11:52:58 AM
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Because of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j4Pf228vhE

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RasterGraphic
07/04/25 12:02:47 PM
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Fourth of July is the Holiday, July 4th is the date.

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rexcrk
07/04/25 12:10:30 PM
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Prolly because its the fourth day of the month of July.

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Choco
07/04/25 12:15:14 PM
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Mussurana posted...
Better question, why not September 3rd?

That's when the Treaty of Paris was signed, recognising the US as an independent nation.
it's also the birthday of my favorite streamer coney

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BlackScythe0
07/04/25 12:18:40 PM
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Mussurana posted...
Better question, why not September 3rd?

That's when the Treaty of Paris was signed, recognising the US as an independent nation.
Lol France
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El_Marsh
07/04/25 12:23:23 PM
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Mussurana posted...
Better question, why not September 3rd?

That's when the Treaty of Paris was signed, recognising the US as an independent nation.
Probably something to do with the independent nation deciding the start of their sovereignty, not the state that they broke away from.

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Hexenherz
07/04/25 12:26:29 PM
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Glob posted...
This is insane. Genuinely crazy.

If you are referring to a specific date, at least within the context of that conversation, it is significant. Which way round you say it doesnt make it more or less significant. It just makes you more or less weird.
What are you talking about

Putting a date before the month is common in many contexts, not just for this one specific holiday.

And in general word order matters across languages for how information is loaded into a message. You do it in English subconsciously all the time when you use two or more adjectives for a noun.

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TendoDRM
07/04/25 12:31:53 PM
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Mussurana posted...
February the 17th

No.

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Hexenherz
07/04/25 12:37:01 PM
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Also realistically it's probably just a holdover of classic language influenced on English (predominantly German but also other languages), since a ton of other European languages say Day of Month. Someone probably realized you could just say Month Day in English without sounding completely dumb and it stuck

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TheBreadedOne
07/04/25 12:39:49 PM
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When a British pilot is crashing do they say daymay?

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modena
07/04/25 12:41:26 PM
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We also say 8th of November...9/11...

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OniLink5000
07/04/25 12:43:13 PM
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PeteyParker posted...
Because of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j4Pf228vhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU4L6THYAbM&list=RDEU4L6THYAbM&start_radio=1


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toreysback
07/04/25 12:43:39 PM
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because it pleases us to do so

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MartavisBryant
07/04/25 12:44:28 PM
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Because you touch yourself at night

Alternatively, because your touching yourself through the night gave proof that our flag was still there

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viewmaster_pi
07/04/25 12:58:41 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/542a249b.jpg

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Shotgunnova
07/04/25 1:03:22 PM
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'Cause Soundgarden SAID SO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91rHFP0OtTE

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lilORANG
07/04/25 1:05:17 PM
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Mussurana posted...
Better question, why not September 3rd?

That's when the Treaty of Paris was signed, recognising the US as an independent nation.
Bc we didn't need a dumb treaty to recognize ourselves as independent. We considered ourselves independent long before the treaty. It wouldn't make sense to celebrate when other countries recognized our independence.

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Glob
07/04/25 9:01:31 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
What are you talking about

Putting a date before the month is common in many contexts, not just for this one specific holiday.


No shit, because thats the correct way to say it.

And in general word order matters across languages for how information is loaded into a message. You do it in English subconsciously all the time when you use two or more adjectives for a noun.

Thanks, but its not subconscious for me. I have to teach it. However, thats in no way relevant to dates.
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nocturnal_traveler
07/07/25 12:27:38 AM
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Why do the Brits add the letter U to so many of their words?
Why do American's pronounce it "LABRAtory? That's not even how it's spelled.
Why do some people say carmel, instead of caramel?

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sfcalimari
07/07/25 2:21:52 AM
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Here in New Zealand they write dates like 4/7 and it irritates me when they say it "4 July." Usually they'd say 4th of July I guess.

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Rika_Furude
07/07/25 2:25:39 AM
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So that people with brains raise their eyebrows whenever an American tries to argue against DD/MM/YYYY on the basis of but what about if you speak the date out loud
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FurryPhilosifer
07/07/25 3:11:52 AM
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
Why do some people say carmel, instead of caramel?
I know right??

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