Current Events > Shocking news: Ironheart is getting review bombed.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Hmmm I wonder why

wokeness

Racists gonna racist.

Figures. A lot of the complaints I've seen (before the movies and shows come out of course) are from tourists whose only exposure to Marvel is the movies, so they're completely unaware that these are characters who have existed in comics for years already.

But really it is generally fueled by racism and bigotry, unfortunately.

MCU Ironheart isn't even a bootleg Ironman.
It's techno-magic hybrid, it's having different plot and story.

Is it only getting review bombed or is it another case where the movie is also bad and getting bad reviews as a result

Rika_Furude posted...

Is it only getting review bombed or is it another case where the movie is also bad and getting bad reviews as a result

People STILL have a hate boner for Brie Larson and have made a literal living off of shit talking Marvel properties. I'm going to be extremely generous and say at best it's another case of a mid Marvel show/movie getting more undue hate than it normally would.

Rika_Furude posted...

Is it only getting review bombed or is it another case where the movie is also bad and getting bad reviews as a result

I mean three episodes debuted an hour ago so people wouldnt have had time to watch them yet

Rika_Furude posted...

Is it only getting review bombed or is it another case where the movie is also bad and getting bad reviews as a result

Considering it started before anyone was even able to watch the show...

TheGoldenEel posted...

I mean three episodes debuted an hour ago so people wouldnt have had time to watch them yet

Lol, nah. Just totes super bad and legitimate reviews.

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Rika_Furude posted...

Is it only getting review bombed or is it another case where the movie is also bad and getting bad reviews as a result

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If you tell me that a TV show based on one of the worst characters in Wakanda Forever is barely scraping a 6/10, that is hardly an endorsement at all in my eyes. Most likely ain't worth a 1, but I sure as hell ain't wasting my life clock on it.

Rika_Furude posted...

Is it only getting review bombed or is it another case where the movie is also bad and getting bad reviews as a result

Both things can be true, shockingly.

But also it literally just dropped.

Rika_Furude posted...

Is it only getting review bombed or is it another case where the movie is also bad and getting bad reviews as a result

Can be both.

Kinda like Acolyte. The series was considered bad and yet also got review bombed.

Rika_Furude posted...

Is it only getting review bombed or is it another case where the movie is also bad and getting bad reviews as a result

It had over 100 "1" ratings before anybody could have even watched it.

HashtagSEP posted...

It had over 100 "1" ratings before anybody could have even watched it.

Stuff like that should be made impossible to do. They need to fix how reviews can be submitted. I'm not sure how exactly. But there needs to be away to prevent these kinds of situations

There's a pretty good video by Sarah Z where she talks about feeling like you have to defend mediocre media just because people are hating it for being woke or whatever bullshit term they're using nowadays.

It's forty-nine minutes long, I don't expect y'all to watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUziUNg8LTw

Dude did you see that new Marvel? That thing looks nuts.

Heineken14 posted...

Lol, nah. Just totes super bad and legitimate reviews.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/282aeefb.png

Lmao, not surprising. But im still watching

i didnt realise that it had only just dropped so yeah, those early reviews are definitely review bombs (there was the same happening with 10/10 ratings but not to the degree of the 1/10 ratings). and yeah i was thinking it was gonna be a case of it getting review bombed and then on top of that also being bad and getting genuine bad reviews for that but i did not know it was only just dropped so nobody could have watched it yet

Zikten posted...

Stuff like that should be made impossible to do. They need to fix how reviews can be submitted. I'm not sure how exactly. But there needs to be away to prevent these kinds of situations

they should just lock it so that nobody can submit reviews until like 24 hours after it airs or something. it wont stop bombing but at least they wont be ahead of genuine reviews

Rika_Furude posted...

they should just lock it so that nobody can submit reviews until like 24 hours after it airs or something. it wont stop bombing but at least they wont be ahead of genuine reviews

I don't think anyone takes the 1's review seriously anyway, so it changes nothing.

Unless they go to the route of youtube of removing dislike ratios entirely but thats just kinda pathetic and impossible to do in a rating 1-10 system.

i mean, is anyone surpirsed, Rotten tomatoes had to disable ratings for it until it officially aired because hours before it was release people were already trying to review bomb it

and while i expect it to be probably pretty meh... its still not going to get a fair chance from a large group of people because of this segment of nerd space that just hates everything that isn't well... You know

012yArthur0 posted...

I don't think anyone takes the 1's review seriously anyway, so it changes nothing.

Unless they go to the route of youtube of removing dislike ratios entirely but thats just kinda pathetic and impossible to do in a rating 1-10 system.

I think the anti woke crowd believes those reviews because they don't think it through and their YouTube influencers that they worship, tell them its real. Because it fits their narrative. I guarantee Critical Drinker (one of the big anti woke guys on YouTube who makes videos attacking shows like Ironheart) will say in one of his next videos that Ironheart got authentically bad reviews that are not fake and absolutely accurately portray the show's quality

First episode was okay. Not one of the better first Marvel episodes.

I'll watch the second one tomorrow

Heineken14 posted...

Lol, nah. Just totes super bad and legitimate reviews.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/282aeefb.png

...yeah that's pretty fuckin' undeniable

Heineken14 posted...

Lol, nah. Just totes super bad and legitimate reviews.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/282aeefb.png

Sorry but I can't trust audience scores anymore. I only trust my own opinion.

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creativerealms posted...

Sorry but I can't trust audience scores anymore. In only trust my own opinion.

This is why I prefer critic scores.

And Letterboxd seems to not have as much review bombing going on.

I'm going to watch it only because Ryan Coogler is involved and he doesn't miss.

bsp77 posted...

This is why I prefer critic scores.

And Letterboxd seems to not have as much review bombing going on.

I trust neither to decide if I like something or not.

Youtubers have been thirsting for the next thing to hate. After all its been a while since dragon age veilguard. Thought theyd almost given up on culture war content

Toonstrack posted...

I trust neither to decide if I like something or not.

I at least somewhat agree with critics most of the time. Rare that I hate something when it has a really strong consensus or vice versa.

Obviously I decide on my own, but if I am on the fence on whether to see something or not, really high or really low scores can sway me one way or the other.

creativerealms posted...

Sorry but I can't trust audience scores anymore. I only trust my own opinion.

It is impossible to trust reviews anyways except of the people you trust and yourself.

"Professional" reviewers are often paid shills or against something by some bias, and audience scores is a botfiesta (look at how Ironheart also has suspicious 10 ratings as well). Tertiary reviews are self defeating as a concept at this point.

012yArthur0 posted...

"Professional" reviewers are often paid shills or against something by some bias

So not true

nothing to see here. Just incels inceling.

I never go by audience reviews for this reason. And usually if critics overwhelmingly like something then I won't. So the few times I actually look at reviews, I look for low scoring ones, and that seems to work.

I cant even imagine what its like to have such a non-personality that Id actually do something as petty and immature as review-bombing.

Fucking clowns lmao.

bsp77 posted...

So not true

Rotten Tomatoes already had a scandal with that back in 2023.

And on another note, there was already an old telling that Oscars always had a thing against animations in general.

Most people knew it was going to flop

Reminds me of the dorks who were mad about Jane Foster Thor not knowing it was already a thing in the comics. Jason Aarons Thor run, which is where Lady Thor debuted, is literally one of the best runs in Thors history.

I mean, Love and Thunder still sucked, but not because it was woke

012yArthur0 posted...

Rotten Tomatoes already had a scandal with that back in 2023.

Not saying it never happens. But not the norm

And on another note, there was already an old telling that Oscars always had a thing against animations in general.

Definitely agree here. Oscars have huge biases, but critics in general less so

012yArthur0 posted...

I don't think anyone takes the 1's review seriously anyway, so it changes nothing.

It changes the aggregate score that appears at the top of a show's page, and that might be enough to impact a potential audience into not watching it.

People like cactaur, for example, who posted the percentage bar and said no. As long as you assume/grant that their post was made in good faith. (Given the rest of their post, maybe not... but you get my point.)

Oh no no no, Marvelbros how do we spin this?

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I think people need to come to terms with the fact that not every installment of the mcu should be on the level of Endgame. I think that is the issue. Endgame happened and now people expect every movie and show to be like that. And if its not, they think it sucks. I think its mainly casual, non comic readers who have this feeling. Who do not understand how comics work. Not every story is a massive universe ending threat. The comics never could have lasted since 1961 to today if that was how it worked. Anyway if people just learned to accept that some mcu chapters are just fun adventures of varying degrees of seriousness, it wouldn't be as big a deal and people might enjoy the mcu more than they currently do

Trelve posted...

Oh no no no, Marvelbros how do we spin this?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8743daab.jpg

IGN score of 5.
Weren't you guys always say that means a 10?

Zikten posted...

I think people need to come to terms with the fact that not every installment of the mcu should be on the level of Endgame. I think that is the issue. Endgame happened and now people expect every movie and show to be like that. And if its not, they think it sucks. I think its mainly casual, non comic readers who have this feeling. Who do not understand how comics work. Not every story is a massive universe ending threat. The comics never could have lasted since 1961 to today if that was how it worked. Anyway if people just learned to accept that some mcu chapters are just fun adventures of varying degrees of seriousness, it wouldn't be as big a deal and people might enjoy the mcu more than they currently do

Problem is that audiences don't really like lowering the stakes, even though I agree it's precisely what needed.

On top of that, Endgame didn't work without tons of movies setting things up in the first place. Without a decade of lower stakes movies, there was no Infinity War, which is a better movie than Endgame.

Review bombing is so embarassing.

reincarnator07 posted...

Problem is that audiences don't really like lowering the stakes, even though I agree it's precisely what needed.

I love "low" stakes, and I think it makes for great stories. The original run of Marvelflix, right up through Punisher and Defenders was really good TV.

(Iron Fist was the weakest of all of them, but I think it found itself and tried to self-correct in the second season. It still came up short because it needed to set up Defenders and not be a proper show on its own, but it was scrappy, and it had heart.)

Zikten posted...

I think people need to come to terms with the fact that not every installment of the mcu should be on the level of Endgame. I think that is the issue. Endgame happened and now people expect every movie and show to be like that. And if its not, they think it sucks. I think its mainly casual, non comic readers who have this feeling. Who do not understand how comics work. Not every story is a massive universe ending threat. The comics never could have lasted since 1961 to today if that was how it worked. Anyway if people just learned to accept that some mcu chapters are just fun adventures of varying degrees of seriousness, it wouldn't be as big a deal and people might enjoy the mcu more than they currently do

I just believe that most thought that Endgame was a great ending to the franchise, while people just watch things with some mild interest but it was clear the Golden Age of MCU was over.

Chances are that people just moved on MCU as an universe and not as a franchise (I don't see them interested at keeping themselves up-to-date at everything like before, I knew friends that watched series and movies they didn't want to just because they could keep in touch to everything happening in MCU back then), while picking some movies that they might like and thats it, especially that MCU kept throwing a lot of shit on the wall to see what sticks.

Marvel itself is aware of that, which is why they paid some fat cash to bring RDJ back to bring people in for the star and nostalgia factor.

Marvel screwed up post endgame thinking the original characters could be replaced with new and or successors when thats simply not an option for the same reasons they arent in the comics.

So Replacing the Actors and soft rebooting from there would have been the smartest thing to do.

But it seems theyve learned this aspect of the genre far too late sadly. Which is what led to things like iron heart or even the thunderbolts for that matter.

bsp77 posted...

Not saying it never happens. But not the norm

The problem is that it poisons the well. How much more corrupted reviews are out there but we just never managed to unveil?

Definitely agree here. Oscars have huge biases, but critics in general less so

Yeah, but Oscars are won by critics, and they have bias. Which is why "Oscar bait" movies exist.