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Leonhart4 05/11/25 1:52:04 PM #2: |
What's the list? --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 05/11/25 1:53:13 PM #3: |
Sure Trails in the Sky may have been 9 places too low but it's a lot better than it could have been. --- I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 05/11/25 1:54:12 PM #4: |
Some good stuff and not so good stuff on it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WazzupGenius00 05/11/25 1:55:33 PM #5: |
One game per franchise is a pretty significant boost for some of these, lol Live-A-Live correctly on here Gold/Silver as the Pokmon pick is a pure nostalgia play, they are some of the worst-designed games in the series. (The real answer should probably be B/W or OR/AS, maaaybe I could see an argument for Sun/Moon) --- http://i.imgur.com/k0v0z3q.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrinceKaro 05/11/25 1:56:06 PM #6: |
The picture of Tidus in the thumbnail is already a bad omen --- https://i.imgtc.com/a6iBg1Y.jpg Congrats to azuarc on being really good at predicting stuff ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MartinFF7 05/11/25 1:56:25 PM #7: |
Leonhart4 posted... What's the list? From reddit: 25: Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne 24: Breath of Fire 3 23: Golden Sun 22: Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch 21: Lost Odyssey 20: Star Ocean The Second Story 19: Bravely Default 2 18: Live A Live 17: Tales of Vesperia 16: Kingdom Hearts 2 15: Grandia 2 14: Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth 13: Xenogears 12: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door 11: Octopath Traveler 2 10: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky 9: Pokemon: Heart Gold / Soul Silver 8: Suikoden 2 7: Earthbound 6: Dragon Quest XI 5: Xenoblade Chronicles 3 4: Metaphor ReFantazio 3: Final Fantasy X 2: Persona 5 Royal 1: Chrono Trigger Even with the "one entry per franchise" caveat, wowww... UltimaterializerX posted... Its as bad as you might think. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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azuarc 05/11/25 1:56:31 PM #8: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0c8148b3.png 10 - TitS FC 9 - Pokemon HGSS 8 - Suikoden 2 7 - Earthbound 6 - DQ11 5 - XBC3 4 - Metaphor 3 - FFX 2 - P5R 1 - CT --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nanis23 05/11/25 1:58:29 PM #9: |
MartinFF7 posted... Even with the "one entry per franchise" caveatWhat a stupid rule --- wololo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrinceKaro 05/11/25 2:01:24 PM #10: |
so they choose the wrong Final Fantasy, the wrong Xenoblade and the wrong Pokemon also the wrong Mother if japan only releases were counted --- https://i.imgtc.com/a6iBg1Y.jpg Congrats to azuarc on being really good at predicting stuff ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SHINE_GET_64 05/11/25 2:01:55 PM #11: |
wrong Xenoblade and 4 spots too low --- https://imgtc.com/i/iJnhdkc.gif https://imgtc.com/i/j45EVGx.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 05/11/25 2:02:53 PM #12: |
FFX in the top 3 is a good call --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shane15 05/11/25 2:03:38 PM #13: |
Trails in the Sky is the worst entry in the series. --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/330/958/a5b.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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paulg235 05/11/25 2:05:16 PM #14: |
Outside of some poor installment choices, this list isn't THAT bad. --- PaulG235 | Finished in the Top 2 of GotD2010's Second Chance Bracket Sadly, there are no second chances in the Guru, azuarc doesn't need one. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LiquidOshawott 05/11/25 2:05:20 PM #15: |
Honestly: I dont hate this list --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VeryInsane's mobile account ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Whiskey_Nick 05/11/25 2:11:37 PM #16: |
Correct number 1 --- I am Nick. Go Sens, Bills, Blue Jays, RedBlacks! UotY 2015, You should listen to The Show w/ Ngamer and Yoblazer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mewtwo59 05/11/25 2:15:56 PM #17: |
PrinceKaro posted... so they choose the wrong Final Fantasy, the wrong Xenoblade and the wrong Pokemon Agreed, though they did hit second best for all of these except Final Fantasy --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 05/11/25 2:17:07 PM #18: |
List seems fine --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 05/11/25 2:17:27 PM #19: |
shane15 posted... Trails in the Sky is the worst entry in the series. Which one? If you're saying 3rd, it's close enough that I'd agree. Sky SC is the best one though. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 05/11/25 2:18:06 PM #20: |
And yeah, it's not an awful list. It may not have the best game from each series on here in most cases, but it's close enough. They did at least get KH2 right. TTYD, too. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Whiskey_Nick 05/11/25 2:18:30 PM #21: |
--- I am Nick. Go Sens, Bills, Blue Jays, RedBlacks! UotY 2015, You should listen to The Show w/ Ngamer and Yoblazer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shane15 05/11/25 2:30:04 PM #23: |
Leonhart4 posted... Which one? If you're saying 3rd, it's close enough that I'd agree. I'm guessing the list means the first one considering that's what they put down. --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/330/958/a5b.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thorn 05/11/25 2:30:22 PM #24: |
Wrong Golden Sun (and kinda lol for even The Lost Age to be here even with a franchise limit opening spots), Wrong Tales Of (tho at least not Arise), Wrong Trails (the most egregious lol, SC is right there even if it's not my personal pick!), and I'd change FF and Persona too but I can respect those picks. and xenoblade 3 4 spots too low also lost odyssey anywhere near such a list no thanks --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LiquidOshawott 05/11/25 2:35:52 PM #25: |
shane15 posted... I'm guessing the list means the first one considering that's what they put down. I looked at that part in the video it is FC --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VeryInsane's mobile account ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnk 05/11/25 2:44:40 PM #26: |
List needs some TWEWY. Also guessing they didn't consider SRPGs otherwise surely there'd be a Fire Emblem on there. Golden Sun and Bravely Default do not deserve a space on the list. --- Change is weird. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaveEstelle 05/11/25 2:48:00 PM #27: |
One entry per franchise rather nukes the concept, doesnt it? --- ~*~Nyaan doesn't know about Kira-Kira!~*~ I'm Quinton! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Arti 05/11/25 2:48:19 PM #28: |
Wrong Trails, Mother, Dragon Quest, and Final Fantasy, and lol Golden Sun They picked the right Persona, Paper Mario, and Tales though! I tried making a list of my own and Chrono Trigger landed at 26th. So, whatever --- http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 05/11/25 2:52:09 PM #29: |
Yay FFX, HG/SS and Metaphor --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FL81 05/11/25 3:58:05 PM #30: |
I was expecting much worse. --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 05/11/25 4:12:39 PM #31: |
1 per series is a very silly rule but given that, it's a respectable list if the goal is to showcase the breadth of the genre. Etrian Odyssey is kind of a big snub? Get Golden Sun out of here ez --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! https://www.backloggd.com/u/aitchdeetee/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LiquidOshawott 05/11/25 4:17:10 PM #32: |
I dont think the one per series rule is silly btw, its pretty standard in genre lists like these otherwise they just get filled up with games from the most popular series its more appealing if 11 is Octopath Traveler II than say, The fifth ranked final fantasy or something --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VeryInsane's mobile account ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 05/11/25 4:19:07 PM #33: |
I'm not sure what people expect from lists like these. They somehow think that all of their personal favorite games will be included and nothing else. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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colliding 05/11/25 4:19:35 PM #34: |
decent list. It actually has a Trails game and respects Xenoblade 3 and OT II. Metaphor and Persona 5 Royal are both too high. missing a Wild Arms rep and Lunar --- while you slept, the world changed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroSignal 05/11/25 4:30:48 PM #35: |
The correct Star Ocean made it, at least --- Formerly known as Raven 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OrangeCrush980 05/11/25 4:38:50 PM #36: |
Seems alright all things considered. Chrono Trigger is #1 with a good #2 and #3 to back it up. Certainly some odd picks within franchises though; feels like they chose newer games a lot of the time even when the newer game is more sketchy but then choose FC over SC for Trails. --- "Foolishness, Dante. Foolishness... Might controls everything. And without strength, you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself." - Vergil, DMC3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoBlazer 05/11/25 4:56:27 PM #37: |
The "one per franchise" rule has always irked me, but especially in a category like this, where some IPs clearly tower head and shoulders above the rest. Imagine a top NBA players list that's limited to one Laker or Celtic. The whole list becomes significantly diluted and kinda pointless. --- Burnin, Blazin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 05/11/25 5:04:39 PM #38: |
If I'm making a list like this, I'm 100% putting Trails in the Sky FC over SC even though I only rank FC in the middle of the series overall and have SC at the top. They're basically the same game anyways, and it's really not worth the gymnastics required to say "this is the 10th best JRPG of all time, BUT it's a direct plot sequel and none of you should actually play it but instead start with this other game not even on the list". --- I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 05/11/25 5:14:55 PM #39: |
KamikazePotato posted... I'm not sure what people expect from lists like these. They somehow think that all of their personal favorite games will be included and nothing else. If I were making a list, that's what I'd do...! --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Arti 05/11/25 5:15:20 PM #40: |
YoBlazer posted... The "one per franchise" rule has always irked me, but especially in a category like this, where some IPs clearly tower head and shoulders above the rest. Imagine a top NBA players list that's limited to one Laker or Celtic. The whole list becomes significantly diluted and kinda pointless.I only believe this if you haven't played enough games. Final Fantasy only appears on my top 25 JRPGs if I do one per franchise, and is left off otherwise. --- http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 05/11/25 5:18:51 PM #41: |
Arti posted... I only believe this if you haven't played enough games. Final Fantasy only appears on my top 25 JRPGs if I do one per franchise, and is left off otherwise. It's fine to leave it off if you don't think it's a top 25 RPG then I get the idea of wanting a list to be diverse, but then just don't call it "top 25 JRPGs" because that's not actually what it is --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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colliding 05/11/25 5:28:17 PM #42: |
I think if a place like IGN wants to have a "one per franchise" rule that makes sense. Obviously individuals shouldn't feel like they also have to play by that rule. That being said, if a person made a top 25 JRPG list and only included FF, DQ and Persona, I'd say that person is not equipped to do a list like this. It would be like someone making a list of the Best American Novels and only including Faulkner and Hemingway. --- while you slept, the world changed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/11/25 5:29:08 PM #43: |
Alright list, they get the correct or at least a very respectable answer on the franchises I have played. Order is to some degree off but it's fine. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LiquidOshawott 05/11/25 5:37:06 PM #44: |
colliding posted... I think if a place like IGN wants to have a "one per franchise" rule that makes sense. Obviously individuals shouldn't feel like they also have to play by that rule. That being said, if a person made a top 25 JRPG list and only included FF, DQ and Persona, I'd say that person is not equipped to do a list like this. It would be like someone making a list of the Best American Novels and only including Faulkner and Hemingway. yeah the idea is to get people to like the depth of the genre and putting like six or so of a franchise weakens that significantly which is basically how the advertising of IGN works like yes you could make a top fighting game list where the top 3 is Street Fighter and its probably objectively correct, but its not pleasing to read and leaves off any hidden gems that fans of the genre could pick up on --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VeryInsane's mobile account ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 05/11/25 5:39:34 PM #45: |
You can make a list that doesn't limit it to one per franchise and also have more than three franchises represented --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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colliding 05/11/25 5:46:11 PM #46: |
Leonhart4 posted... You can make a list that doesn't limit it to one per franchise and also have more than three franchises represented for sure --- while you slept, the world changed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Safer_777 05/11/25 5:51:47 PM #47: |
These 1 title per franchise list always suck. The thing is when you post the best of something you can't limit yourself like this because it isn't fair. So what if a series keeps producing amazing games? They are amazing so add them there! This is like trying to do a top 11 football players now but putting only 1 guy per different team. It doesn't make sense. --- So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLOUR 05/11/25 5:52:22 PM #48: |
Just another cookie cutter list from someone who never played a JRPG on a Sega console. --- The alternate domination of one faction over another is itself a frightful despotism. - George Washington ... Copied to Clipboard!
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azuarc 05/11/25 6:01:12 PM #49: |
Should be 1 per franchise or 1 per 5 games if the franchise is 10+. In any event, I have nothing to say about the list. It's a list. It has JRPGs on it. It doesn't have any pathetically awful choices on it like Sword of Hope or something. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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colliding 05/11/25 6:09:28 PM #50: |
azuarc posted... pathetically awful choices Ni no Kuni Golden Sun ToV sorry, I'm a hater of these --- while you slept, the world changed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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