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Leonhart4
05/11/25 1:52:04 PM
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What's the list?

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pyresword
05/11/25 1:53:13 PM
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Sure Trails in the Sky may have been 9 places too low but it's a lot better than it could have been.

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swordz9
05/11/25 1:54:12 PM
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Some good stuff and not so good stuff on it
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WazzupGenius00
05/11/25 1:55:33 PM
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One game per franchise is a pretty significant boost for some of these, lol

Live-A-Live correctly on here

Gold/Silver as the Pokmon pick is a pure nostalgia play, they are some of the worst-designed games in the series. (The real answer should probably be B/W or OR/AS, maaaybe I could see an argument for Sun/Moon)

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PrinceKaro
05/11/25 1:56:06 PM
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The picture of Tidus in the thumbnail is already a bad omen

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MartinFF7
05/11/25 1:56:25 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
What's the list?

From reddit:

25: Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne
24: Breath of Fire 3
23: Golden Sun
22: Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
21: Lost Odyssey
20: Star Ocean The Second Story
19: Bravely Default 2
18: Live A Live
17: Tales of Vesperia
16: Kingdom Hearts 2
15: Grandia 2
14: Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth
13: Xenogears
12: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
11: Octopath Traveler 2
10: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky
9: Pokemon: Heart Gold / Soul Silver
8: Suikoden 2
7: Earthbound
6: Dragon Quest XI
5: Xenoblade Chronicles 3
4: Metaphor ReFantazio
3: Final Fantasy X
2: Persona 5 Royal
1: Chrono Trigger

Even with the "one entry per franchise" caveat, wowww...

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azuarc
05/11/25 1:56:31 PM
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10 - TitS FC
9 - Pokemon HGSS
8 - Suikoden 2
7 - Earthbound
6 - DQ11
5 - XBC3
4 - Metaphor
3 - FFX
2 - P5R
1 - CT

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Nanis23
05/11/25 1:58:29 PM
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MartinFF7 posted...
Even with the "one entry per franchise" caveat
What a stupid rule

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PrinceKaro
05/11/25 2:01:24 PM
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so they choose the wrong Final Fantasy, the wrong Xenoblade and the wrong Pokemon

also the wrong Mother if japan only releases were counted

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SHINE_GET_64
05/11/25 2:01:55 PM
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wrong Xenoblade and 4 spots too low

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Leonhart4
05/11/25 2:02:53 PM
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FFX in the top 3 is a good call

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shane15
05/11/25 2:03:38 PM
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Trails in the Sky is the worst entry in the series.

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paulg235
05/11/25 2:05:16 PM
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Outside of some poor installment choices, this list isn't THAT bad.

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LiquidOshawott
05/11/25 2:05:20 PM
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Honestly: I dont hate this list


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Whiskey_Nick
05/11/25 2:11:37 PM
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Correct number 1

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Mewtwo59
05/11/25 2:15:56 PM
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PrinceKaro posted...
so they choose the wrong Final Fantasy, the wrong Xenoblade and the wrong Pokemon

also the wrong Mother if japan only releases were counted

Agreed, though they did hit second best for all of these except Final Fantasy

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KamikazePotato
05/11/25 2:17:07 PM
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List seems fine

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Leonhart4
05/11/25 2:17:27 PM
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shane15 posted...
Trails in the Sky is the worst entry in the series.

Which one? If you're saying 3rd, it's close enough that I'd agree.

Sky SC is the best one though.

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Leonhart4
05/11/25 2:18:06 PM
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And yeah, it's not an awful list. It may not have the best game from each series on here in most cases, but it's close enough. They did at least get KH2 right. TTYD, too.

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Whiskey_Nick
05/11/25 2:18:30 PM
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  1. Chrono Trigger
  2. Final Fantasy 7
  3. Xenogears
  4. Sea of Stars
  5. Black Sigil: Blade of the Exiled
  6. Super Mario RPG
  7. Chained Echoes
  8. Pokemon RBY
  9. Xenoblade
  10. Kingdom Hearts 2
  11. Cosmic Star Heroine
  12. Grandia
  13. Tales of Symphonia
  14. Digimon Cyber Sleuth
  15. Golden Sun The Lost Age
  16. Nexomon Extinction
  17. Live A Live
  18. Dragon Quest 11
  19. Bug Fables
  20. Riviera: The Promised Land
  21. I Am Setsuna
  22. Radiant Historia
  23. Star Ocean 2
  24. Breath of Fire 4
  25. Trials of Mana

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shane15
05/11/25 2:30:04 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Which one? If you're saying 3rd, it's close enough that I'd agree.

Sky SC is the best one though.


I'm guessing the list means the first one considering that's what they put down.

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Thorn
05/11/25 2:30:22 PM
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Wrong Golden Sun (and kinda lol for even The Lost Age to be here even with a franchise limit opening spots), Wrong Tales Of (tho at least not Arise), Wrong Trails (the most egregious lol, SC is right there even if it's not my personal pick!), and I'd change FF and Persona too but I can respect those picks.

and xenoblade 3 4 spots too low

also lost odyssey anywhere near such a list no thanks

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LiquidOshawott
05/11/25 2:35:52 PM
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shane15 posted...
I'm guessing the list means the first one considering that's what they put down.

I looked at that part in the video it is FC

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mnk
05/11/25 2:44:40 PM
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List needs some TWEWY.

Also guessing they didn't consider SRPGs otherwise surely there'd be a Fire Emblem on there.

Golden Sun and Bravely Default do not deserve a space on the list.

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SaveEstelle
05/11/25 2:48:00 PM
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One entry per franchise rather nukes the concept, doesnt it?

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Arti
05/11/25 2:48:19 PM
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Wrong Trails, Mother, Dragon Quest, and Final Fantasy, and lol Golden Sun

They picked the right Persona, Paper Mario, and Tales though!

I tried making a list of my own and Chrono Trigger landed at 26th. So, whatever

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Bane_Of_Despair
05/11/25 2:52:09 PM
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Yay FFX, HG/SS and Metaphor

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FL81
05/11/25 3:58:05 PM
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I was expecting much worse.

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/11/25 4:12:39 PM
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1 per series is a very silly rule but given that, it's a respectable list if the goal is to showcase the breadth of the genre.

Etrian Odyssey is kind of a big snub? Get Golden Sun out of here ez

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LiquidOshawott
05/11/25 4:17:10 PM
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I dont think the one per series rule is silly btw, its pretty standard in genre lists like these otherwise they just get filled up with games from the most popular series

its more appealing if 11 is Octopath Traveler II than say, The fifth ranked final fantasy or something

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KamikazePotato
05/11/25 4:19:07 PM
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I'm not sure what people expect from lists like these. They somehow think that all of their personal favorite games will be included and nothing else.

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colliding
05/11/25 4:19:35 PM
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decent list. It actually has a Trails game and respects Xenoblade 3 and OT II. Metaphor and Persona 5 Royal are both too high.

missing a Wild Arms rep and Lunar

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ZeroSignal
05/11/25 4:30:48 PM
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The correct Star Ocean made it, at least

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OrangeCrush980
05/11/25 4:38:50 PM
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Seems alright all things considered. Chrono Trigger is #1 with a good #2 and #3 to back it up. Certainly some odd picks within franchises though; feels like they chose newer games a lot of the time even when the newer game is more sketchy but then choose FC over SC for Trails.

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YoBlazer
05/11/25 4:56:27 PM
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The "one per franchise" rule has always irked me, but especially in a category like this, where some IPs clearly tower head and shoulders above the rest. Imagine a top NBA players list that's limited to one Laker or Celtic. The whole list becomes significantly diluted and kinda pointless.

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pyresword
05/11/25 5:04:39 PM
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If I'm making a list like this, I'm 100% putting Trails in the Sky FC over SC even though I only rank FC in the middle of the series overall and have SC at the top. They're basically the same game anyways, and it's really not worth the gymnastics required to say "this is the 10th best JRPG of all time, BUT it's a direct plot sequel and none of you should actually play it but instead start with this other game not even on the list".

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Leonhart4
05/11/25 5:14:55 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
I'm not sure what people expect from lists like these. They somehow think that all of their personal favorite games will be included and nothing else.

If I were making a list, that's what I'd do...!

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Arti
05/11/25 5:15:20 PM
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YoBlazer posted...
The "one per franchise" rule has always irked me, but especially in a category like this, where some IPs clearly tower head and shoulders above the rest. Imagine a top NBA players list that's limited to one Laker or Celtic. The whole list becomes significantly diluted and kinda pointless.
I only believe this if you haven't played enough games. Final Fantasy only appears on my top 25 JRPGs if I do one per franchise, and is left off otherwise.

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Leonhart4
05/11/25 5:18:51 PM
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Arti posted...
I only believe this if you haven't played enough games. Final Fantasy only appears on my top 25 JRPGs if I do one per franchise, and is left off otherwise.

It's fine to leave it off if you don't think it's a top 25 RPG then

I get the idea of wanting a list to be diverse, but then just don't call it "top 25 JRPGs" because that's not actually what it is

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colliding
05/11/25 5:28:17 PM
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I think if a place like IGN wants to have a "one per franchise" rule that makes sense. Obviously individuals shouldn't feel like they also have to play by that rule. That being said, if a person made a top 25 JRPG list and only included FF, DQ and Persona, I'd say that person is not equipped to do a list like this. It would be like someone making a list of the Best American Novels and only including Faulkner and Hemingway.

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ctesjbuvf
05/11/25 5:29:08 PM
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Alright list, they get the correct or at least a very respectable answer on the franchises I have played.

Order is to some degree off but it's fine.

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LiquidOshawott
05/11/25 5:37:06 PM
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colliding posted...
I think if a place like IGN wants to have a "one per franchise" rule that makes sense. Obviously individuals shouldn't feel like they also have to play by that rule. That being said, if a person made a top 25 JRPG list and only included FF, DQ and Persona, I'd say that person is not equipped to do a list like this. It would be like someone making a list of the Best American Novels and only including Faulkner and Hemingway.

yeah the idea is to get people to like the depth of the genre and putting like six or so of a franchise weakens that significantly which is basically how the advertising of IGN works

like yes you could make a top fighting game list where the top 3 is Street Fighter and its probably objectively correct, but its not pleasing to read and leaves off any hidden gems that fans of the genre could pick up on


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Leonhart4
05/11/25 5:39:34 PM
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You can make a list that doesn't limit it to one per franchise and also have more than three franchises represented

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colliding
05/11/25 5:46:11 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
You can make a list that doesn't limit it to one per franchise and also have more than three franchises represented

for sure

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Safer_777
05/11/25 5:51:47 PM
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These 1 title per franchise list always suck. The thing is when you post the best of something you can't limit yourself like this because it isn't fair. So what if a series keeps producing amazing games? They are amazing so add them there!
This is like trying to do a top 11 football players now but putting only 1 guy per different team. It doesn't make sense.

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FLOUR
05/11/25 5:52:22 PM
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Just another cookie cutter list from someone who never played a JRPG on a Sega console.

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azuarc
05/11/25 6:01:12 PM
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Should be 1 per franchise or 1 per 5 games if the franchise is 10+.

In any event, I have nothing to say about the list. It's a list. It has JRPGs on it. It doesn't have any pathetically awful choices on it like Sword of Hope or something.

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05/11/25 6:09:28 PM
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azuarc posted...
pathetically awful choices

Ni no Kuni
Golden Sun
ToV

sorry, I'm a hater of these

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