Current Events > Holy... holy crap. Youtube is trying DESPERATELY to inject ads into videos

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saspa 01/03/25 3:13:07 PM #1:	They're doing everything in their power to circumvent adblock to try to force us to watch ads. https://i.imgur.com/Ve1kTvl.png For months now Firefox has been exceptionally slow, but once the youtube tabs are removed it goes back to normal, revealing who the culprit is. Google is intentionally slowing down youtube and making the site near unmanageable on firefox, all in an effort to make sure that an ad gets through. It still hasn't gotten through yet, but I just posted an instance of an ad that youtube desperately tried to push through, with ublock holding steady. It appeared for a second and then disappeared, but it was enough to make me realize that youtube will do everything in their power, using the combined might of google to try to make us sit through their garbage. --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:983526757] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>They're doing everything in their power to circumvent adblock to try to force us to watch ads. https://i.imgur.com/Ve1kTvl.pngFor months now Firefox has been exceptionally slow, but once the youtube tabs are removed it goes back to normal, revealing who the culprit is. Google is intentionally slowing down youtube and making the site near unmanageable on firefox, all in an effort to make sure that an ad gets through. It still hasn't gotten through yet, but I just posted an instance of an ad that youtube desperately tried to push through, with ublock holding steady. It appeared for a second and then disappeared, but it was enough to make me realize that youtube will do everything in their power, using the combined might of google to try to make us sit through their garbage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/03/25 3:15:09 PM #2:	Get privacy badger. It's an extension that blocks the script youtube runs to detect if you've got an ad-blocker from ever running. I use firefox with ublock and privacy badger and all google's weird experimental shit stopped happening for me and hasn't happened yet. Just make sure you clear your cookies after you turn badger on and you should be good to go. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:983526780] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Get privacy badger. It's an extension that blocks the script youtube runs to detect if you've got an ad-blocker from ever running. I use firefox with ublock and privacy badger and all google's weird experimental shit stopped happening for me and hasn't happened yet. Just make sure you clear your cookies after you turn badger on and you should be good to go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 01/03/25 3:16:11 PM #3:	saspa posted... Google is intentionally slowing down youtube and making the site near unmanageable on firefox, all in an effort to make sure that an ad gets through. I've also been having an issue on Firefox where it doesn't load all of the related videos in the sidebar. This is across different machines, operating systems, and different forks of Firefox (even with all add-ons turned off). Still, there is nothing that Google can do to get me to disable my ad blockers. --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:983526787] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite><quote>Google is intentionally slowing down youtube and making the site near unmanageable on firefox, all in an effort to make sure that an ad gets through.</quote>I've also been having an issue on Firefox where it doesn't load all of the related videos in the sidebar. This is across different machines, operating systems, and different forks of Firefox (even with all add-ons turned off).Still, there is nothing that Google can do to get me to disable my ad blockers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightRender 01/03/25 3:16:24 PM #4:	I'm still on Chrome + ublock and everything's fine. --- Dedicated to D - 4/15/05 <cite>NightRender posted [p:983526790] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>I'm still on Chrome + ublock and everything's fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativeme 01/03/25 3:22:14 PM #5:	edge and ublock is still working fine. i haven't used firefox in close to a decade now when it started sucking after using it for like a decade and i got forced into using chrome. --- This is a sig <cite>creativeme posted [p:983526846] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>edge and ublock is still working fine. i haven't used firefox in close to a decade now when it started sucking after using it for like a decade and i got forced into using chrome. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YugiNoob 01/03/25 3:25:50 PM #6:	Ryan George. You have excellent taste my man https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/79e7173e.jpg --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya High-Five! <cite>YugiNoob posted [p:983526871] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Ryan George. You have excellent taste my manhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/79e7173e.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cloudrivera 01/03/25 3:27:05 PM #7:	YouTube premium --- currently playing: https://imgur.com/EYwUWAA, https://imgur.com/5udRtHd, https://imgur.com/UdVSpCF, https://imgur.com/Za8H7IT <cite>cloudrivera posted [p:983526882] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>YouTube premium </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mechu 01/03/25 3:29:29 PM #8:	cloudrivera posted... YouTube premium They're not getting my money at this point. I'd sooner just stop using the site tbh. --- absolute trash <cite>Mechu posted [p:983526907] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>cloudrivera posted... </cite><quote>YouTube premium</quote>They're not getting my money at this point. I'd sooner just stop using the site tbh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagiMarthKoopa 01/03/25 3:36:15 PM #9:	cloudrivera posted... YouTube premium Absurdly expensive for something that offers nothing of value <cite>MagiMarthKoopa posted [p:983526981] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>cloudrivera posted... </cite><quote>YouTube premium</quote>Absurdly expensive for something that offers nothing of value</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeminiDeus 01/03/25 3:39:37 PM #10:	s0nicfan posted... Get privacy badger. It's an extension that blocks the script youtube runs to detect if you've got an ad-blocker from ever running. I use firefox with ublock and privacy badger and all google's weird experimental shit stopped happening for me and hasn't happened yet. Just make sure you clear your cookies after you turn badger on and you should be good to go. Thank you so much for this suggestion, the difference is instantly noticeable. --- Without truth, there is nothing. <cite>GeminiDeus posted [p:983527023] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>Get privacy badger. It's an extension that blocks the script youtube runs to detect if you've got an ad-blocker from ever running. I use firefox with ublock and privacy badger and all google's weird experimental shit stopped happening for me and hasn't happened yet. Just make sure you clear your cookies after you turn badger on and you should be good to go.</quote>Thank you so much for this suggestion, the difference is instantly noticeable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LuigiChalmersJr 01/03/25 3:40:31 PM #11:	NightRender posted... I'm still on Chrome + ublock and everything's fine. --- Los Angeles Clippers http://i.imgur.com/3dExqUh.jpg <cite>LuigiChalmersJr posted [p:983527037] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>NightRender posted... </cite><quote>I'm still on Chrome + ublock and everything's fine.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 01/03/25 3:45:48 PM #12:	Anecdotally, Youtube is acting fine with Firefox + uBlock on my laptop, not even signed in. And uBlock is the only extension I have installed. I'm not even currently on a VPN or anything that could be interfering with YouTube's efforts. Nor have I noticed YouTube being particularly slow in recent days or actively impacting the performance of Firefox. Now, back in like 2011/2012 Firefox could be borderline unusable on YouTube, adblock or no. TC, you could try uninstalling Firefox and reinstalling it fresh, add just uBlock, and see if YouTube is still being fucky --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:983527075] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Anecdotally, Youtube is acting fine with Firefox + uBlock on my laptop, not even signed in. And uBlock is the only extension I have installed.I'm not even currently on a VPN or anything that could be interfering with YouTube's efforts.Nor have I noticed YouTube being particularly slow in recent days or actively impacting the performance of Firefox.Now, back in like 2011/2012 Firefox could be borderline unusable on YouTube, adblock or no.TC, you could try uninstalling Firefox and reinstalling it fresh, add just uBlock, and see if YouTube is still being fucky</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 01/03/25 5:30:35 PM #13:	saspa posted... It appeared for a second and then disappeared, but it was enough to make me realize that youtube will do everything in their power, using the combined might of google to try to make us sit through their garbage. I mean, does this surprise you? Ads are literally how they make their money. It's how they offset the costs of this enormous, entirely-free-to-use website that doesn't even turn a profit. So yeah, they're obviously going to want to do what they can to make money off you, since you're otherwise not paying to be there. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:983528118] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite><quote>It appeared for a second and then disappeared, but it was enough to make me realize that youtube will do everything in their power, using the combined might of google to try to make us sit through their garbage.</quote>I mean, does this surprise you? Ads are literally how they make their money. It's how they offset the costs of this enormous, entirely-free-to-use website that doesn't even turn a profit. So yeah, they're obviously going to want to do what they can to make money off you, since you're otherwise not paying to be there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 01/03/25 5:32:05 PM #14:	Oh... Is that why YouTube has been so god dang slow lately? --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:983528135] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Oh...Is that why YouTube has been so god dang slow lately?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 01/03/25 5:39:12 PM #15:	You can use the Brave Browser if you have an iphone. Freetube for PC/Mac Smarttube for Android TV Newpipe or something similar for Android phones. I will never watch Youtube with ads. If they force ads, I just won't go to that site anymore. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:983528216] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>You can use the Brave Browser if you have an iphone. Freetube for PC/MacSmarttube for Android TVNewpipe or something similar for Android phones. I will never watch Youtube with ads. If they force ads, I just won't go to that site anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeminiDeus 01/03/25 5:42:34 PM #16:	Turbam posted... Oh... Is that why YouTube has been so god dang slow lately? Yup, and install Privacy Badger like s0nicfan suggested, restart your browser, and you'll instantly notice the difference. --- Without truth, there is nothing. <cite>GeminiDeus posted [p:983528261] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Turbam posted... </cite><quote>Oh...Is that why YouTube has been so god dang slow lately?</quote>Yup, and install Privacy Badger like s0nicfan suggested, restart your browser, and you'll instantly notice the difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoshiMitsurugi 01/03/25 5:50:47 PM #17:	I rock Brave on my Android. --- Born in blood. The Hurley Bird gets the worm. <cite>YoshiMitsurugi posted [p:983528344] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>I rock Brave on my Android.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 01/03/25 5:55:04 PM #18:	I got firefox, ublock, and privacy badger and every now and then youtube will still act up and be slow and sometimes sneak an ad in, but most of the time it's fine. I wonder if I have some settings wrong. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:983528386] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>I got firefox, ublock, and privacy badger and every now and then youtube will still act up and be slow and sometimes sneak an ad in, but most of the time it's fine. I wonder if I have some settings wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin2Krelian 01/03/25 6:05:26 PM #19:	Not trying to simp for them or anything, but the more people use ad-blockers, the more this will happen. --- -J2K Currently Streaming: The Expanse, ST: Lower Decks, Silo, Arcane, Homeland <cite>Justin2Krelian posted [p:983528471] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Not trying to simp for them or anything, but the more people use ad-blockers, the more this will happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GhostFaceLeaks 01/03/25 6:12:27 PM #20:	Eventually they will ban users who have adblock to force the ads even more. --- "Do you like Scary movies?" <cite>GhostFaceLeaks posted [p:983528549] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Eventually they will ban users who have adblock to force the ads even more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RasterGraphic 01/03/25 6:15:28 PM #21:	Justin2Krelian posted... Not trying to simp for them or anything, but the more people use ad-blockers, the more this will happen. Most people got in a habit of using ad-blockers because of how annoying (or even dangerous) ads were getting. It's a vicious cycle, ads continue to get more aggressive as blockers become more sophisticated. If Google or whoever really want to break this, the solution is put their foot down on aggressive, obnoxious, dangerous, and inappropriate advertising and better respect user's privacy. That is the only way to convince a tech-savvy audience to disable their blockers. --- "Well, thanks to the Internet, I'm now bored with sex." - Philip J. Fry <cite>RasterGraphic posted [p:983528579] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Justin2Krelian posted... </cite><quote>Not trying to simp for them or anything, but the more people use ad-blockers, the more this will happen.</quote>Most people got in a habit of using ad-blockers because of how annoying (or even dangerous) ads were getting.It's a vicious cycle, ads continue to get more aggressive as blockers become more sophisticated.If Google or whoever really want to break this, the solution is put their foot down on aggressive, obnoxious, dangerous, and inappropriate advertising and better respect user's privacy. That is the only way to convince a tech-savvy audience to disable their blockers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GhostFaceLeaks 01/03/25 6:21:43 PM #22:	RasterGraphic posted... Most people got in a habit of using ad-blockers because of how annoying (or even dangerous) ads were getting. It's a vicious cycle, ads continue to get more aggressive as blockers become more sophisticated. If Google or whoever really want to break this, the solution is put their foot down on aggressive, obnoxious, dangerous, and inappropriate advertising and better respect user's privacy. That is the only way to convince a tech-savvy audience to disable their blockers. The other option is to make adblocks a bannable offense. Which I feel is going to happen in the future. --- "Do you like Scary movies?" <cite>GhostFaceLeaks posted [p:983528643] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>RasterGraphic posted... </cite><quote>Most people got in a habit of using ad-blockers because of how annoying (or even dangerous) ads were getting.It's a vicious cycle, ads continue to get more aggressive as blockers become more sophisticated.If Google or whoever really want to break this, the solution is put their foot down on aggressive, obnoxious, dangerous, and inappropriate advertising and better respect user's privacy. That is the only way to convince a tech-savvy audience to disable their blockers.</quote>The other option is to make adblocks a bannable offense. Which I feel is going to happen in the future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 01/03/25 6:29:03 PM #23:	cloudrivera posted... YouTube premium I do this only because I routinely watch/listen to Youtube videos 3-4 hours a day. People who more casually just put it on to watch a single video probably won't find the value in it with how pricy it is. Plus it just lets you enjoy Youtube the way it was back when it was free, rather than offering things it didn't have before. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:983528724] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>cloudrivera posted... </cite><quote>YouTube premium</quote>I do this only because I routinely watch/listen to Youtube videos 3-4 hours a day. People who more casually just put it on to watch a single video probably won't find the value in it with how pricy it is. Plus it just lets you enjoy Youtube the way it was back when it was free, rather than offering things it didn't have before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 01/03/25 6:38:54 PM #24:	GhostFaceLeaks posted... The other option is to make adblocks a bannable offense. Which I feel is going to happen in the future. Aside from content creators I fail to see why or how that would matter to anyone else. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:983528821] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>GhostFaceLeaks posted... </cite><quote>The other option is to make adblocks a bannable offense. Which I feel is going to happen in the future.</quote>Aside from content creators I fail to see why or how that would matter to anyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 01/03/25 6:42:18 PM #25:	RasterGraphic posted... Most people got in a habit of using ad-blockers because of how annoying (or even dangerous) ads were getting. It's a vicious cycle, ads continue to get more aggressive as blockers become more sophisticated. If Google or whoever really want to break this, the solution is put their foot down on aggressive, obnoxious, dangerous, and inappropriate advertising and better respect user's privacy. That is the only way to convince a tech-savvy audience to disable their blockers. Honestly, I'm at the point where I'd just rather not consume content than watch ads. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:983528849] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>RasterGraphic posted... </cite><quote>Most people got in a habit of using ad-blockers because of how annoying (or even dangerous) ads were getting.It's a vicious cycle, ads continue to get more aggressive as blockers become more sophisticated.If Google or whoever really want to break this, the solution is put their foot down on aggressive, obnoxious, dangerous, and inappropriate advertising and better respect user's privacy. That is the only way to convince a tech-savvy audience to disable their blockers.</quote>Honestly, I'm at the point where I'd just rather not consume content than watch ads. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 01/03/25 6:44:27 PM #26:	For an idea of how annoying ads have gotten, here's the default ad placement for the VOD of a stream I did not too long ago. https://i.imgur.com/DGfSod4.jpeg If it were just one every 10 minutes or so, that'd be one thing. But no, you're almost spending as much time watching ads as the actual video. I personally make sure to limit the number of midrolls on my videos, but I imagine the majority of Youtubers just use the default settings. --- https://i.imgur.com/lfI7zGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tgLNUuX.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:983528872] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>For an idea of how annoying ads have gotten, here's the default ad placement for the VOD of a stream I did not too long ago.https://i.imgur.com/DGfSod4.jpegIf it were just one every 10 minutes or so, that'd be one thing. But no, you're almost spending as much time watching ads as the actual video. I personally make sure to limit the number of midrolls on my videos, but I imagine the majority of Youtubers just use the default settings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 01/03/25 6:47:54 PM #27:	when ads where just start of video and a mid roll on longer videos there was not that many people using ad blockers its when youtube started pushing for more and more ads that more and more people started using ad blocker edit oh and when the content creator got a fair cut of profits as well --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:983528909] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>when ads where just start of video and a mid roll on longer videosthere was not that many people using ad blockers its when youtube started pushing for more and more ads that more and more people started using ad blockeredit oh and when the content creator got a fair cut of profits as well </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 01/03/25 6:49:05 PM #28:	pokedude900 posted... For an idea of how annoying ads have gotten, here's the default ad placement for the VOD of a stream I did not too long ago. https://i.imgur.com/DGfSod4.jpeg If it were just one every 10 minutes or so, that'd be one thing. But no, you're almost spending as much time watching ads as the actual video. I personally make sure to limit the number of midrolls on my videos, but I imagine the majority of Youtubers just use the default settings. 55 times I counted, over the course of 186 minutes of content. Every 3 minutes and 22 seconds on average, content is being interrupted for an ad to be served. Fuck that. I'd just rather not consume content --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:983528926] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>For an idea of how annoying ads have gotten, here's the default ad placement for the VOD of a stream I did not too long ago.https://i.imgur.com/DGfSod4.jpegIf it were just one every 10 minutes or so, that'd be one thing. But no, you're almost spending as much time watching ads as the actual video. I personally make sure to limit the number of midrolls on my videos, but I imagine the majority of Youtubers just use the default settings.</quote>55 times I counted, over the course of 186 minutes of content. Every 3 minutes and 22 seconds on average, content is being interrupted for an ad to be served. Fuck that. I'd just rather not consume content </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tripleh213 01/03/25 7:13:56 PM #29:	cloudrivera posted... YouTube premium Lol no --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:983529222] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>cloudrivera posted... </cite><quote>YouTube premium</quote>Lol no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 01/03/25 7:17:51 PM #30:	saspa posted... For months now Firefox has been exceptionally slow, but once the youtube tabs are removed it goes back to normal, revealing who the culprit is. Google is intentionally slowing down youtube and making the site near unmanageable on firefox, all in an effort to make sure that an ad gets through. Hmm, you tube's been causing my computer to bluescreen about once a month for a little while, I wonder if that's a contributing factor. --- Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:983529266] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite><quote>For months now Firefox has been exceptionally slow, but once the youtube tabs are removed it goes back to normal, revealing who the culprit is. Google is intentionally slowing down youtube and making the site near unmanageable on firefox, all in an effort to make sure that an ad gets through.</quote>Hmm, you tube's been causing my computer to bluescreen about once a month for a little while, I wonder if that's a contributing factor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLiarParadox 01/04/25 2:15:22 AM #31:	I have firefox and uBlock. I started getting massive slowdowns on YouTube after reading this topic, so I'm going to blame TC. Thanks a lot. --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. <cite>TheLiarParadox posted [p:983532921] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>I have firefox and uBlock. I started getting massive slowdowns on YouTube after reading this topic, so I'm going to blame TC. Thanks a lot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kind9 01/04/25 5:01:28 AM #33:	NightRender posted... I'm still on Chrome + ublock and everything's fine. lol ... personally I will quit using youtube.com before I start using Chrome. If it was just a good browser rather than a tool for a giant corporation to force funnel people into their locked down ad-riddled little internet ecosystem I'd have no problem with it. If they want people on other browsers to stop using ad blockers they should consider a far less obnoxious way of delivering ads and get rid of all the toxic ads they apparently don't even vet. --- http://i.imgur.com/NkZUeFd.gif <cite>kind9 posted [p:983533535] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>NightRender posted... </cite><quote>I'm still on Chrome + ublock and everything's fine.</quote>lol ... personally I will quit using youtube.com before I start using Chrome. If it was just a good browser rather than a tool for a giant corporation to force funnel people into their locked down ad-riddled little internet ecosystem I'd have no problem with it. If they want people on other browsers to stop using ad blockers they should consider a far less obnoxious way of delivering ads and get rid of all the toxic ads they apparently don't even vet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bover_87 01/04/25 5:36:38 AM #34:	RasterGraphic posted... If Google or whoever really want to break this, the solution is put their foot down on aggressive, obnoxious, dangerous, and inappropriate advertising and better respect user's privacy. That is the only way to convince a tech-savvy audience to disable their blockers. That's never going to happen. Google (and by extension YT) is so badly enshittified at this point that the only object is to claw every last cent possible, because they know they have a practical monopoly on videos. What remains to be seen is if Google fucks up badly enough to allow competitors to enter the space, like Twitter did allowing Bluesky to break in. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. <cite>bover_87 posted [p:983533628] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>RasterGraphic posted... </cite><quote>If Google or whoever really want to break this, the solution is put their foot down on aggressive, obnoxious, dangerous, and inappropriate advertising and better respect user's privacy. That is the only way to convince a tech-savvy audience to disable their blockers.</quote>That's never going to happen. Google (and by extension YT) is so badly enshittified at this point that the only object is to claw every last cent possible, because they know they have a practical monopoly on videos.What remains to be seen is if Google fucks up badly enough to allow competitors to enter the space, like Twitter did allowing Bluesky to break in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 01/04/25 5:42:26 AM #35:	The problem is it's a LOT cheaper to make a Twitter clone than a Youtube clone. The volume of data being processed on a daily basis is incomparable. Every other video hosting site out there has to place strict limits on file sizes in order to function. --- https://i.imgur.com/lfI7zGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tgLNUuX.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:983533646] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>The problem is it's a LOT cheaper to make a Twitter clone than a Youtube clone. The volume of data being processed on a daily basis is incomparable. Every other video hosting site out there has to place strict limits on file sizes in order to function.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 01/04/25 6:18:02 AM #36:	GhostFaceLeaks posted... Eventually they will ban users who have adblock to force the ads even more. How will they ban users who don't have an account that can be banned? Oh, I know! They will simply put the entire website behind a paywall... which reduces Youtube traffic by 99%... Well, to compensate for that, the price of Premium ahs to increase by several mangitudes, which will drive away even more people, and of course, to fix that loss, theyoh crap the website is like dead and gone, dude! --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:983533738] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>GhostFaceLeaks posted... </cite><quote>Eventually they will ban users who have adblock to force the ads even more.</quote>How will they ban users who don't have an account that can be banned?Oh, I know! They will simply put the entire website behind a paywall... which reduces Youtube traffic by 99%...Well, to compensate for that, the price of Premium ahs to increase by several mangitudes, which will drive away even more people, and of course, to fix that loss, theyoh crap the website is like dead and gone, dude!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 01/04/25 6:42:02 AM #37:	The part that fucks me up is the ones using an ad blocker are actually an incredibly tiny set of people compared to their overall traffic. Most on mobile devices or even PC either don't know or care. It's legitimately just them trying to be as greedy as humanly possible. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:983533830] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>The part that fucks me up is the ones using an ad blocker are actually an incredibly tiny set of people compared to their overall traffic. Most on mobile devices or even PC either don't know or care. It's legitimately just them trying to be as greedy as humanly possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Crissaegrim- 01/04/25 6:45:52 AM #38:	pokedude900 posted... For an idea of how annoying ads have gotten, here's the default ad placement for the VOD of a stream I did not too long ago. https://i.imgur.com/DGfSod4.jpeg If it were just one every 10 minutes or so, that'd be one thing. But no, you're almost spending as much time watching ads as the actual video. I personally make sure to limit the number of midrolls on my videos, but I imagine the majority of Youtubers just use the default settings. Looks like a piano keyboard. --- Work in progress bass guitar sound- https://vocaroo.com/17qBOSAFwIfM https://voca.ro/1SflYnZYcUrr https://voca.ro/1k4Mz1W0pJ1S https://voca.ro/1o7ZHpB8wkAv <cite>-Crissaegrim- posted [p:983533837] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>For an idea of how annoying ads have gotten, here's the default ad placement for the VOD of a stream I did not too long ago.https://i.imgur.com/DGfSod4.jpegIf it were just one every 10 minutes or so, that'd be one thing. But no, you're almost spending as much time watching ads as the actual video. I personally make sure to limit the number of midrolls on my videos, but I imagine the majority of Youtubers just use the default settings.</quote>Looks like a piano keyboard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kind9 01/04/25 8:01:04 AM #39:	s0nicfan posted... Get privacy badger. It's an extension that blocks the script youtube runs to detect if you've got an ad-blocker from ever running. I use firefox with ublock and privacy badger and all google's weird experimental shit stopped happening for me and hasn't happened yet. Just make sure you clear your cookies after you turn badger on and you should be good to go. Holy shit this actually worked. I used to doubt people who claimed youtube ran like ass on firefox with uBO, and then it started happening to me months ago. I thought spoofing my browser signature to match Chrome would do the trick, but nope. Youtube is running nice and lean again with this addon, so thanks! --- http://i.imgur.com/NkZUeFd.gif <cite>kind9 posted [p:983534206] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>Get privacy badger. It's an extension that blocks the script youtube runs to detect if you've got an ad-blocker from ever running. I use firefox with ublock and privacy badger and all google's weird experimental shit stopped happening for me and hasn't happened yet. Just make sure you clear your cookies after you turn badger on and you should be good to go.</quote>Holy shit this actually worked. I used to doubt people who claimed youtube ran like ass on firefox with uBO, and then it started happening to me months ago. I thought spoofing my browser signature to match Chrome would do the trick, but nope. Youtube is running nice and lean again with this addon, so thanks!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 01/04/25 8:34:24 AM #40:	cloudrivera posted... YouTube premium barf. waste of money <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:983534393] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>cloudrivera posted... </cite><quote>YouTube premium</quote>barf. waste of money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 01/04/25 8:42:09 AM #41:	s0nicfan posted... privacy badger. Tag to remember this specifically --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:983534446] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>privacy badger.</quote>Tag to remember this specifically </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GhostFaceLeaks 01/04/25 9:15:49 AM #42:	Thompson posted... How will they ban users who don't have an account that can be banned? Oh, I know! They will simply put the entire website behind a paywall... which reduces Youtube traffic by 99%... Well, to compensate for that, the price of Premium ahs to increase by several mangitudes, which will drive away even more people, and of course, to fix that loss, theyoh crap the website is like dead and gone, dude! Don't underestimate capitalism and the lengths companies will go to fight something like adblock. --- "Do you like Scary movies?" <cite>GhostFaceLeaks posted [p:983534672] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Thompson posted... </cite><quote>How will they ban users who don't have an account that can be banned?Oh, I know! They will simply put the entire website behind a paywall... which reduces Youtube traffic by 99%...Well, to compensate for that, the price of Premium ahs to increase by several mangitudes, which will drive away even more people, and of course, to fix that loss, theyoh crap the website is like dead and gone, dude!</quote>Don't underestimate capitalism and the lengths companies will go to fight something like adblock.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 01/04/25 9:53:59 AM #43:	GhostFaceLeaks posted... Don't underestimate capitalism and the lengths companies will go to fight something like adblock. Fighting adblocks by putting the website behind a paywall that blocks out 99% of the user base is awfully counterproductive, and reminds me of that fable about the goose that laid golden eggs. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:983534891] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>GhostFaceLeaks posted... </cite><quote>Don't underestimate capitalism and the lengths companies will go to fight something like adblock.</quote>Fighting adblocks by putting the website behind a paywall that blocks out 99% of the user base is awfully counterproductive, and reminds me of that fable about the goose that laid golden eggs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 01/04/25 12:22:02 PM #44:	Thompson posted... Fighting adblocks by putting the website behind a paywall that blocks out 99% of the user base is awfully counterproductive, and reminds me of that fable about the goose that laid golden eggs. Theyll perfect a way in which the users browser must provide proof it played an ad before the video played, in a way that is invisible for the user and that uBlock origin cant replicate. Dunno when it will happen but it will <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:983536054] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Thompson posted... </cite><quote>Fighting adblocks by putting the website behind a paywall that blocks out 99% of the user base is awfully counterproductive, and reminds me of that fable about the goose that laid golden eggs.</quote>Theyll perfect a way in which the users browser must provide proof it played an ad before the video played, in a way that is invisible for the user and that uBlock origin cant replicate. Dunno when it will happen but it will</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToiletDuck64 01/04/25 12:34:32 PM #45:	Rika_Furude posted... Theyll perfect a way in which the users browser must provide proof it played an ad before the video played, in a way that is invisible for the user and that uBlock origin cant replicate. Dunno when it will happen but it will >browser must provide proof it played an ad >invisible for the user They can't do both of these things. If they try, then adblockers will probably set things up so that the ad itself is invisible for the user so...yeah. Funny story: the "analog hole" works both ways. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole --- Watch this space... <cite>ToiletDuck64 posted [p:983536152] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>Theyll perfect a way in which the users browser must provide proof it played an ad before the video played, in a way that is invisible for the user and that uBlock origin cant replicate. Dunno when it will happen but it will</quote>>browser must provide proof it played an ad>invisible for the userThey can't do both of these things. If they try, then adblockers will probably set things up so that the ad itself is invisible for the user so...yeah.Funny story: the "analog hole" works both ways.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TuxedoCyan 01/04/25 12:36:45 PM #46:	I realize it's rolling out slowly, but for now me personally, on Firefox with ublock, no slow downs and no ads yet. --- Like it or leave it. Hey, where are you going? <cite>TuxedoCyan posted [p:983536170] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>I realize it's rolling out slowly, but for now me personally, on Firefox with ublock, no slow downs and no ads yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 01/04/25 12:41:28 PM #47:	Here's what I don't understand. How is it that Twitch succeeded in defeating uBlock Origin, and it's been consistently broken there for a couple years now? --- https://i.imgur.com/lfI7zGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tgLNUuX.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:983536205] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>Here's what I don't understand. How is it that Twitch succeeded in defeating uBlock Origin, and it's been consistently broken there for a couple years now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 01/04/25 12:47:18 PM #48:	pokedude900 posted... Here's what I don't understand. How is it that Twitch succeeded in defeating uBlock Origin, and it's been consistently broken there for a couple years now? The ads essentially just directly replace the stream feed on Twitch. Blocking the ad in most cases blocks the entire video player. Apparently this is harder to implement on non live stream videos for whatever reason <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:983536267] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>Here's what I don't understand. How is it that Twitch succeeded in defeating uBlock Origin, and it's been consistently broken there for a couple years now?</quote>The ads essentially just directly replace the stream feed on Twitch. Blocking the ad in most cases blocks the entire video player. Apparently this is harder to implement on non live stream videos for whatever reason</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 01/04/25 12:49:43 PM #49:	But it doesn't. The actual stream shrinks and mutes while the ad plays in the larger player space. It's still there, so why can't uBlock tell the difference? --- https://i.imgur.com/lfI7zGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tgLNUuX.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:983536292] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>But it doesn't. The actual stream shrinks and mutes while the ad plays in the larger player space. It's still there, so why can't uBlock tell the difference?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 01/04/25 12:49:53 PM #50:	MagiMarthKoopa posted... Absurdly expensive for something that offers nothing of value Only if you pay the American price. I get it for a few bucks. Used to get it for about $.50 by splitting a Turkish family account with some friends. <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:983536294] in Holy... ho... [t:80912206]...</cite> <quote>MagiMarthKoopa posted... </cite><quote>Absurdly expensive for something that offers nothing of value</quote>Only if you pay the American price. I get it for a few bucks. Used to get it for about $.50 by splitting a Turkish family account with some friends.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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