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nocturnal_traveler 12/20/24 1:41:03 AM #1:	I'm not talking about the people who directly interact with them. There's an ulterior motive at play. I'm talking about the simps who never met a wealthy person, yet comes to their defense at every opportunity. Also I should clarify that rich does not necessarily mean wealthy. Shaquille O'Neil is rich. Elon Musk is wealthy. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:983367076] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>I'm not talking about the people who directly interact with them. There's an ulterior motive at play. I'm talking about the simps who never met a wealthy person, yet comes to their defense at every opportunity.Also I should clarify that rich does not necessarily mean wealthy. Shaquille O'Neil is rich. Elon Musk is wealthy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 12/20/24 1:48:01 AM #2:	"That could be me one day!" --- I stared into the mirror; a prisoner to the past, a ghost to the present. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:983367124] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>"That could be me one day!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 12/20/24 1:49:35 AM #3:	on some level, they believe wealthy people are better than them. --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. https://imgur.com/a/CwuPnzk <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:983367133] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>on some level, they believe wealthy people are better than them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 12/20/24 1:50:36 AM #4:	nocturnal_traveler posted... Shaquille O'Neil is rich. $500 million absolutely means you're wealthy. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:983367138] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>nocturnal_traveler posted... </cite><quote>Shaquille O'Neil is rich.</quote>$500 million absolutely means you're wealthy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nocturnal_traveler 12/20/24 1:51:53 AM #5:	ellis123 posted... $500 million absolutely means you're wealthy. He's got $500 million? Well I retract my statement about him. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:983367148] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>$500 million absolutely means you're wealthy.</quote>He's got $500 million? Well I retract my statement about him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 12/20/24 1:51:54 AM #6:	GrandConjuraton posted... "That could be me one day!" Basically this. Kissing the arses of wealthy people allows them to cling to the hope that the world around them is meritocratic and that if they work hard enough, theyll get there one day too. Siding against the wealthy, especially the very wealthiest individuals, usually involves acknowledging that almost all of them had immense advantages that most people dont have. Acknowledging this for most people also means acknowledging that the kind of wealth they dream of is unobtainable. <cite>Glob posted [p:983367149] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>GrandConjuraton posted... </cite><quote>"That could be me one day!"</quote>Basically this.Kissing the arses of wealthy people allows them to cling to the hope that the world around them is meritocratic and that if they work hard enough, theyll get there one day too.Siding against the wealthy, especially the very wealthiest individuals, usually involves acknowledging that almost all of them had immense advantages that most people dont have. Acknowledging this for most people also means acknowledging that the kind of wealth they dream of is unobtainable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 12/20/24 1:52:02 AM #7:	people have been bombarded with messaging showing how great the rich are we have constant news articles about how "generous" the rich are when they donate to charity (that they often own) we are conditioned from birth to worship the elite --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:983367151] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>people have been bombarded with messaging showing how great the rich arewe have constant news articles about how "generous" the rich are when they donate to charity (that they often own)we are conditioned from birth to worship the elite </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krojen 12/20/24 1:55:02 AM #8:	Propaganda Ace nailed this one. --- http://i.imgur.com/hI4hAMb.jpg <cite>Krojen posted [p:983367171] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Propaganda Ace nailed this one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nocturnal_traveler 12/20/24 1:55:18 AM #9:	AceMos posted... people have been bombarded with messaging showing how great the rich are we have constant news articles about how "generous" the rich are when they donate to charity (that they often own) we are conditioned from birth to worship the elite What often wakes people up from that delusion? --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:983367172] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>people have been bombarded with messaging showing how great the rich arewe have constant news articles about how "generous" the rich are when they donate to charity (that they often own)we are conditioned from birth to worship the elite</quote>What often wakes people up from that delusion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfDevsman 12/20/24 2:03:52 AM #10:	Well, I guess kinda like how everyone has a part of them that likes to root for the underdog, I think everyone also has a part of them that wants to root for the successful too. Like I guess if you were watching somebody going for the world record for most consecutive free throws, I mean, you're going to keep wanting them to make the next shot, right? It would be an easier pill to swallow if you could look at the rich and say they must have worked hard to get there. It's naive, but I think a part of people just sort of intuitively want it to be true. The other thing I can think of is some people just don't really grasp the scale of things. Like, if you imagine everyone's net worth is the log10 of what it really is, well, lots of people are worth around 3-5 and Musk is worth around 12. Yeah, it's a lot relatively speaking, but it's easier to justify in your head. Now that's obviously an extreme example (hopefully nobody thinks Musk is worth three times an average person), but I think that kind of distortion in the perceived values of these big numbers makes it harder for some people to see the problem. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ <cite>ReturnOfDevsman posted [p:983367225] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Well, I guess kinda like how everyone has a part of them that likes to root for the underdog, I think everyone also has a part of them that wants to root for the successful too. Like I guess if you were watching somebody going for the world record for most consecutive free throws, I mean, you're going to keep wanting them to make the next shot, right? It would be an easier pill to swallow if you could look at the rich and say they must have worked hard to get there. It's naive, but I think a part of people just sort of intuitively want it to be true.The other thing I can think of is some people just don't really grasp the scale of things. Like, if you imagine everyone's net worth is the log10 of what it really is, well, lots of people are worth around 3-5 and Musk is worth around 12. Yeah, it's a lot relatively speaking, but it's easier to justify in your head. Now that's obviously an extreme example (hopefully nobody thinks Musk is worth three times an average person), but I think that kind of distortion in the perceived values of these big numbers makes it harder for some people to see the problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 12/20/24 2:08:48 AM #11:	"Trickle down on me, daddy!" --- If you need the threat of eternal damnation to be a good person, you're just a bad person on a leash. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:983367250] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>"Trickle down on me, daddy!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 12/20/24 3:24:27 AM #12:	AceMos posted... people have been bombarded with messaging showing how great the rich are we have constant news articles about how "generous" the rich are when they donate to charity (that they often own) we are conditioned from birth to worship the elite This. I've often referred to Republicans as the second most heavily propagandized group of people on earth (with the luckless North Koreans being in first place). But I now think that's wrong. US citizens in general are the most heavily propagandized group of people on the planet, with the propaganda being understood as a message to worship the rich, as opposed to the more limited message of voting for any piece of shit with the magic R. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:983367546] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>people have been bombarded with messaging showing how great the rich arewe have constant news articles about how "generous" the rich are when they donate to charity (that they often own)we are conditioned from birth to worship the elite</quote>This. I've often referred to Republicans as the second most heavily propagandized group of people on earth (with the luckless North Koreans being in first place).But I now think that's wrong. US citizens in general are the most heavily propagandized group of people on the planet, with the propaganda being understood as a message to worship the rich, as opposed to the more limited message of voting for any piece of shit with the magic R.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 12/20/24 3:28:33 AM #13:	ReturnOfDevsman posted... Well, I guess kinda like how everyone has a part of them that likes to root for the underdog, I think everyone also has a part of them that wants to root for the successful too. Like I guess if you were watching somebody going for the world record for most consecutive free throws, I mean, you're going to keep wanting them to make the next shot, right? It would be an easier pill to swallow if you could look at the rich and say they must have worked hard to get there. It's naive, but I think a part of people just sort of intuitively want it to be true. The other thing I can think of is some people just don't really grasp the scale of things. Like, if you imagine everyone's net worth is the log10 of what it really is, well, lots of people are worth around 3-5 and Musk is worth around 12. Yeah, it's a lot relatively speaking, but it's easier to justify in your head. Now that's obviously an extreme example (hopefully nobody thinks Musk is worth three times an average person), but I think that kind of distortion in the perceived values of these big numbers makes it harder for some people to see the problem. I'm not trying to pick on you here, but this is a great example of what I'm talking about -- "net worth" is the accepted term to use for wealth, and yes, the plutocrats are absolutely intending this ambiguity between "wealth" (often obscene) and "value as a human being". --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:983367566] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfDevsman posted... </cite><quote>Well, I guess kinda like how everyone has a part of them that likes to root for the underdog, I think everyone also has a part of them that wants to root for the successful too. Like I guess if you were watching somebody going for the world record for most consecutive free throws, I mean, you're going to keep wanting them to make the next shot, right? It would be an easier pill to swallow if you could look at the rich and say they must have worked hard to get there. It's naive, but I think a part of people just sort of intuitively want it to be true.The other thing I can think of is some people just don't really grasp the scale of things. Like, if you imagine everyone's net worth is the log10 of what it really is, well, lots of people are worth around 3-5 and Musk is worth around 12. Yeah, it's a lot relatively speaking, but it's easier to justify in your head. Now that's obviously an extreme example (hopefully nobody thinks Musk is worth three times an average person), but I think that kind of distortion in the perceived values of these big numbers makes it harder for some people to see the problem.</quote>I'm not trying to pick on you here, but this is a great example of what I'm talking about -- "net worth" is the accepted term to use for wealth, and yes, the plutocrats are absolutely intending this ambiguity between "wealth" (often obscene) and "value as a human being".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 12/20/24 3:31:48 AM #14:	Some people see the wealthy as 'winners of the game of life'. They want to cheer the winners, not the losers. Others have been convinced that these people are the 'wealth creators', and if it wasn't for their overburdened tables, there would be no crumbs falling for the poor to eat. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:983367579] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Some people see the wealthy as 'winners of the game of life'. They want to cheer the winners, not the losers.Others have been convinced that these people are the 'wealth creators', and if it wasn't for their overburdened tables, there would be no crumbs falling for the poor to eat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thermador446 12/20/24 5:03:05 AM #15:	GrandConjuraton posted... "That could be me one day!" https://youtu.be/K_LvRPX0rGY?si=mE-td49vGpLZAWzH --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch <cite>Thermador446 posted [p:983367830] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>GrandConjuraton posted... </cite><quote>"That could be me one day!"</quote>https://youtu.be/K_LvRPX0rGY?si=mE-td49vGpLZAWzH</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 12/20/24 5:39:31 AM #16:	Because they want to be them --- Happiness can be found even in the darkest of times, if one only remembers to turn on the light. <cite>rexcrk posted [p:983367949] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Because they want to be them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 12/20/24 5:56:27 AM #17:	A lot of people literally see financial wealth as proof of career success, which is proof of hard work, which is proof of moral character. They quite literally see a direct cause-effect relationship between being a good hard working person and being a multi-millionaire. Maybe because they want to believe that's all it's going to take for themselves. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:983368024] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>A lot of people literally see financial wealth as proof of career success, which is proof of hard work, which is proof of moral character. They quite literally see a direct cause-effect relationship between being a good hard working person and being a multi-millionaire. Maybe because they want to believe that's all it's going to take for themselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 12/20/24 5:57:29 AM #18:	they think that if they suck their dicks hard enough, they might fall in their good graces and advance in life cause of that... <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:983368027] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>they think that if they suck their dicks hard enough, they might fall in their good graces and advance in life cause of that...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 12/20/24 6:30:55 AM #19:	If you are nice to them they might give you freebies Basically that --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:983368161] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>If you are nice to them they might give you freebiesBasically that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin2Krelian 12/20/24 7:12:37 AM #20:	"Did they steal it from you?!" --- -J2K Currently Streaming: The Expanse, ST: Lower Decks, Silo, Arcane, Homeland <cite>Justin2Krelian posted [p:983368358] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>"Did they steal it from you?!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SydnieStarlight 12/20/24 7:20:55 AM #21:	Propaganda. Our society (media, owned by, well, just guess) pushes extremely hard to convince everyone that rich people are only rich because they worked super duper extra hard. And we glorify hard workers. Someone who works hard is good and noble, worth defending, heck, worth dying for. And a lot of people take all this at face value. As a result, we have people who have been tricked into thinking the lazy, no-good parasites are actually the best of us and should be honored as such. --- Star Rail (601319792) Let's be friends~ <cite>SydnieStarlight posted [p:983368395] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Propaganda.Our society (media, owned by, well, just guess) pushes extremely hard to convince everyone that rich people are only rich because they worked super duper extra hard. And we glorify hard workers. Someone who works hard is good and noble, worth defending, heck, worth dying for. And a lot of people take all this at face value.As a result, we have people who have been tricked into thinking the lazy, no-good parasites are actually the best of us and should be honored as such.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Popo 12/20/24 7:50:03 AM #22:	nocturnal_traveler posted... Also I should clarify that rich does not necessarily mean wealthy. Shaquille O'Neil is rich. Elon Musk is wealthy. Guessing youre using a 20 year old Chris Rock special for that qualifier? ellis123 posted... $500 million absolutely means you're wealthy. Not according to it. Oprah isnt even wealthy: https://youtu.be/W726xNPtEbQ --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The_Popo posted [p:983368556] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>nocturnal_traveler posted... </cite><quote>Also I should clarify that rich does not necessarily mean wealthy. Shaquille O'Neil is rich. Elon Musk is wealthy.</quote>Guessing youre using a 20 year old Chris Rock special for that qualifier?ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>$500 million absolutely means you're wealthy.</quote>Not according to it. Oprah isnt even wealthy:https://youtu.be/W726xNPtEbQ</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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reincarnator07 12/20/24 8:00:21 AM #24:	There is a perverse notion that being wealthy means you're inherently a good and valuable person, even though to earn more than a few million either requires handouts or exploitation of others. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:983368621] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>There is a perverse notion that being wealthy means you're inherently a good and valuable person, even though to earn more than a few million either requires handouts or exploitation of others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kinetika_ 12/20/24 8:09:10 AM #25:	reincarnator07 posted... There is a perverse notion that being wealthy means you're inherently a good and valuable person, even though to earn more than a few million either requires handouts or exploitation of others. Not necessarily, but people here are too trapped on this naive mindset, so it's impossible to argue with people like you, who unironically, believe this. Lucky and hardworking people gain wealth, too. Most millionaires I know in life are ordinary people who you'd never thought had millions by looking at them. Not everyone is like the United Healthcare CEO. <cite>kinetika_ posted [p:983368680] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>reincarnator07 posted... </cite><quote>There is a perverse notion that being wealthy means you're inherently a good and valuable person, even though to earn more than a few million either requires handouts or exploitation of others.</quote>Not necessarily, but people here are too trapped on this naive mindset, so it's impossible to argue with people like you, who unironically, believe this. Lucky and hardworking people gain wealth, too. Most millionaires I know in life are ordinary people who you'd never thought had millions by looking at them. Not everyone is like the United Healthcare CEO.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 12/20/24 8:16:24 AM #26:	Wealthy is a pretty subjective term tbh. You dont need to be a billionaire or even a millionaire to afford much of what they do, at least on mass. Aside from that hating a person for being wealthy in and of itself is not really a reason to despise them. Maybe they did a bunch of shady things behind closed doors but just like beloved Celebes that are secretly PoS nobody is aware of nor are looking for any of that. Especially if most fans themselves are unaffected by it all. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:983368733] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Wealthy is a pretty subjective term tbh. You dont need to be a billionaire or even a millionaire to afford much of what they do, at least on mass.Aside from that hating a person for being wealthy in and of itself is not really a reason to despise them. Maybe they did a bunch of shady things behind closed doors but just like beloved Celebes that are secretly PoS nobody is aware of nor are looking for any of that. Especially if most fans themselves are unaffected by it all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxZiomaxX 12/20/24 8:23:21 AM #27:	nocturnal_traveler posted... He's got $500 million? Well I retract my statement about him. https://wolfoffranchises.com/shaq-franchises/ Shaq is a giant brand by himself And yeah, people basically respect the wealthy because they want to become them. It's conditioned to think this way. --- LAL <cite>XxZiomaxX posted [p:983368779] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>nocturnal_traveler posted... </cite><quote>He's got $500 million? Well I retract my statement about him.</quote>https://wolfoffranchises.com/shaq-franchises/Shaq is a giant brand by himselfAnd yeah, people basically respect the wealthy because they want to become them. It's conditioned to think this way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 12/20/24 9:00:50 AM #28:	The wealthy kissing the ass of other wealthy is the weird part. What's the point of fuck you money if you're going to bend the knee --- Harris-Walz 2024 https://imgur.com/gallery/o47SI9Y <cite>emblem-man posted [p:983369046] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>The wealthy kissing the ass of other wealthy is the weird part. What's the point of fuck you money if you're going to bend the knee</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 12/20/24 9:08:57 AM #30:	Never understood it and the biggest rich person cheerleaders are the right who act like they're badass independent men yet are complete bitches to the rich. It's pathetic. They will defend the rich exploiting loopholes to avoid taxes saying it's both smart and morally right (because taxes are bad), yet say that the rich pay all the taxes and we should all be thankful for them for doing so. emblem-man posted... The wealthy kissing the ass of other wealthy is the weird part. What's the point of fuck you money if you're going to bend the knee The top class is the only one with any solidarity. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:983369093] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Never understood it and the biggest rich person cheerleaders are the right who act like they're badass independent men yet are complete bitches to the rich. It's pathetic.They will defend the rich exploiting loopholes to avoid taxes saying it's both smart and morally right (because taxes are bad), yet say that the rich pay all the taxes and we should all be thankful for them for doing so.emblem-man posted... </cite><quote>The wealthy kissing the ass of other wealthy is the weird part. What's the point of fuck you money if you're going to bend the knee</quote>The top class is the only one with any solidarity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 12/20/24 9:10:08 AM #31:	Reminder that a lot of "people" sucking up to the wealthy online are bots nowadays. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:983369102] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Reminder that a lot of "people" sucking up to the wealthy online are bots nowadays. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 12/20/24 9:19:56 AM #32:	I don't know is "kiss ass" is the right term, as opposed to being envious of them. And it's for all the reasons people have listed. Mostly the fact that they, themselves think it's just a change of circumstances that one day makes them one of the elite/wealthy. I mean, look no further than the silly "Obscene about of money or _________" polls that people post on CE, and how many people opt for the money. People equate money with success. --- You gotta laugh. That is the one thing at the end of your life you will not wish you did less of. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:983369174] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>I don't know is "kiss ass" is the right term, as opposed to being envious of them.And it's for all the reasons people have listed. Mostly the fact that they, themselves think it's just a change of circumstances that one day makes them one of the elite/wealthy.I mean, look no further than the silly "Obscene about of money or _________" polls that people post on CE, and how many people opt for the money.People equate money with success.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 12/20/24 9:23:55 AM #33:	They were basically brainwashed. It is more effective on some than others. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:983369193] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>They were basically brainwashed.It is more effective on some than others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 12/20/24 9:26:18 AM #34:	Because they're above the law. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/062sANy.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:983369212] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Because they're above the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 12/20/24 10:52:42 AM #35:	kinetika_ posted... Not necessarily, but people here are too trapped on this naive mindset, so it's impossible to argue with people like you, who unironically, believe this. Lucky and hardworking people gain wealth, too. Most millionaires I know in life are ordinary people who you'd never thought had millions by looking at them. Not everyone is like the United Healthcare CEO. I said people can't really earn more than a few millions on their own. You need luck, but one can absolutely earn a couple million from working hard. People like doctors, engineers, some craftspeople. They sure as fuck aren't adding a zero to the end of that wealth without either some sort of handout (lottery win, inheritance, marrying someone wealthy) or exploiting others. There's also one hell of a difference between a millionaire and billionaire. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:983370056] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>kinetika_ posted... </cite><quote>Not necessarily, but people here are too trapped on this naive mindset, so it's impossible to argue with people like you, who unironically, believe this. Lucky and hardworking people gain wealth, too. Most millionaires I know in life are ordinary people who you'd never thought had millions by looking at them. Not everyone is like the United Healthcare CEO.</quote>I said people can't really earn more than a few millions on their own. You need luck, but one can absolutely earn a couple million from working hard. People like doctors, engineers, some craftspeople. They sure as fuck aren't adding a zero to the end of that wealth without either some sort of handout (lottery win, inheritance, marrying someone wealthy) or exploiting others.There's also one hell of a difference between a millionaire and billionaire. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PeteyParker 12/20/24 10:53:37 AM #36:	GrandConjuraton posted... "That could be me one day!" --- "How can.. the Prime minister.. support a law.. that makes it illegal for people.. who....What I'm trying to say is.. Oasis rules!" <cite>PeteyParker posted [p:983370068] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>GrandConjuraton posted... </cite><quote>"That could be me one day!"</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 12/20/24 10:55:18 AM #37:	conservative propaganda. --- I hope something good happens to you today Playing: Baldur's Gate 3 <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:983370081] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>conservative propaganda.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 12/20/24 11:37:43 AM #38:	America has a deep Protestant work ethic going back centuries, and before the US's founding that means "hard work=success" --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:983370541] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>America has a deep Protestant work ethic going back centuries, and before the US's founding that means "hard work=success"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOnionKnight 12/20/24 11:52:15 AM #39:	It's like team sports. Did the fans actually contribute to their team winning? Were they out on the field scoring points? No. The players achieved the victory. The fans did nothing. But the fans still claim the victory as theirs anyway. Emotionally, they feel the triumph. Same thing with wealthy people who have "won" the game of capitalism, and all the poor people who support them. It's not that the poor people think they'll become rich (although that's one element for some of them), but that they already feel triumph since they're "on the same team" as the rich. Billionaires like Elon Musk literally have the power of kings. And people love their monarchs. All the glory and riches of Buckingham Palace, and the pride that people feel in thinking "that's my king/queen." The subjects of the monarch don't have the wealth themselves, but they enjoy the monarch's wealth vicariously. --- The owls are not what they seem. <cite>TheOnionKnight posted [p:983370686] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>It's like team sports. Did the fans actually contribute to their team winning? Were they out on the field scoring points? No. The players achieved the victory. The fans did nothing. But the fans still claim the victory as theirs anyway. Emotionally, they feel the triumph.Same thing with wealthy people who have "won" the game of capitalism, and all the poor people who support them. It's not that the poor people think they'll become rich (although that's one element for some of them), but that they already feel triumph since they're "on the same team" as the rich.Billionaires like Elon Musk literally have the power of kings. And people love their monarchs. All the glory and riches of Buckingham Palace, and the pride that people feel in thinking "that's my king/queen." The subjects of the monarch don't have the wealth themselves, but they enjoy the monarch's wealth vicariously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 12/20/24 11:54:01 AM #40:	TheOnionKnight posted... It's like team sports. Did the fans actually contribute to their team winning? Were they out on the field scoring points? No. The players achieved the victory. The fans did nothing. But the fans still claim the victory as theirs anyway. Emotionally, they feel the triumph. Same thing with wealthy people who have "won" the game of capitalism, and all the poor people who support them. It's not that the poor people think they'll become rich (although that's one element for some of them), but that they already feel triumph since they're "on the same team" as the rich. Billionaires like Elon Musk literally have the power of kings. And people love their monarchs. All the glory and riches of Buckingham Palace, and the pride that people feel in thinking "that's my king/queen." The subjects of the monarch don't have the wealth themselves, but they enjoy the monarch's wealth vicariously. Realistically, Elon is more powerful than most kings. He has crazy influence over multitudes of countries far away from his own borders and he affects the day to day lives of people more than most kings ever did. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:983370699] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>TheOnionKnight posted... </cite><quote>It's like team sports. Did the fans actually contribute to their team winning? Were they out on the field scoring points? No. The players achieved the victory. The fans did nothing. But the fans still claim the victory as theirs anyway. Emotionally, they feel the triumph.Same thing with wealthy people who have "won" the game of capitalism, and all the poor people who support them. It's not that the poor people think they'll become rich (although that's one element for some of them), but that they already feel triumph since they're "on the same team" as the rich.Billionaires like Elon Musk literally have the power of kings. And people love their monarchs. All the glory and riches of Buckingham Palace, and the pride that people feel in thinking "that's my king/queen." The subjects of the monarch don't have the wealth themselves, but they enjoy the monarch's wealth vicariously.</quote>Realistically, Elon is more powerful than most kings. He has crazy influence over multitudes of countries far away from his own borders and he affects the day to day lives of people more than most kings ever did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOnionKnight 12/20/24 12:04:10 PM #41:	LightSnake posted... Realistically, Elon is more powerful than most kings. He is indeed. Yet you've got "patriotic Americans" whose national identity is supposedly based around a revolutionary, anti-monarch sentiment who are proudly on Team Musk. I honestly think that we need a new word. Some term (a very negative term) that applies to both kings and billionaires, so that people understand "these are the same thing." It's not about wearing a crown. It's about wielding power. And more money = more power. --- The owls are not what they seem. <cite>TheOnionKnight posted [p:983370788] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted...</cite><quote>Realistically, Elon is more powerful than most kings.</quote>He is indeed. Yet you've got "patriotic Americans" whose national identity is supposedly based around a revolutionary, anti-monarch sentiment who are proudly on Team Musk.I honestly think that we need a new word. Some term (a very negative term) that applies to both kings and billionaires, so that people understand "these are the same thing." It's not about wearing a crown. It's about wielding power. And more money = more power.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 12/20/24 12:04:49 PM #42:	people took the wrong lesson from Christmas Carol. Scrooge was greedy most of his life and committed wage left to his workers. But he turns nice at the very end of his life so it all works out. Don't look into what happened in between. <cite>name_unknown posted [p:983370796] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>people took the wrong lesson from Christmas Carol. Scrooge was greedy most of his life and committed wage left to his workers. But he turns nice at the very end of his life so it all works out. Don't look into what happened in between. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 12/20/24 12:10:08 PM #43:	TheOnionKnight posted... It's like team sports. Did the fans actually contribute to their team winning? Were they out on the field scoring points? No. The players achieved the victory. The fans did nothing. But the fans still claim the victory as theirs anyway. Emotionally, they feel the triumph. I think that good home support can make a difference. Most players enjoy playing with vocal backing, and hostile crowds can get to them. See it all the time in football (soccer), where playing at home makes a good result more likely. During the pandemic, when teams played in empty stadia, that advantage largely disappeared. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:983370847] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>TheOnionKnight posted... </cite><quote>It's like team sports. Did the fans actually contribute to their team winning? Were they out on the field scoring points? No. The players achieved the victory. The fans did nothing. But the fans still claim the victory as theirs anyway. Emotionally, they feel the triumph.</quote>I think that good home support can make a difference. Most players enjoy playing with vocal backing, and hostile crowds can get to them.See it all the time in football (soccer), where playing at home makes a good result more likely. During the pandemic, when teams played in empty stadia, that advantage largely disappeared.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpawnShadow 12/20/24 12:18:10 PM #44:	Desperate fools always strike bargains with the devil, without bothering to so much as glance at the contract, let alone the fine print. --- I don't want to live on this planet anymore. <cite>SpawnShadow posted [p:983370933] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Desperate fools always strike bargains with the devil, without bothering to so much as glance at the contract, let alone the fine print.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOnionKnight 12/20/24 12:20:54 PM #45:	ai123 posted... I think that good home support can make a difference. Most players enjoy playing with vocal backing, and hostile crowds can get to them. Sure. Elon Musk loves when people cheer for him too. Obviously it's less black/white than I'm describing, and you can expand on the psychological nuances, but this sort of tribalism is the foundation of our plague of billionaire-worship. (Ties into religion too, especially in places like the US with so much Christian influence. "Christ the King." When you're on the same team as God, you've really got a victory to celebrate, and this reverence for all-powerful authority figures spills into politics.) --- The owls are not what they seem. <cite>TheOnionKnight posted [p:983370963] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted...</cite><quote>I think that good home support can make a difference. Most players enjoy playing with vocal backing, and hostile crowds can get to them.</quote>Sure. Elon Musk loves when people cheer for him too. Obviously it's less black/white than I'm describing, and you can expand on the psychological nuances, but this sort of tribalism is the foundation of our plague of billionaire-worship. (Ties into religion too, especially in places like the US with so much Christian influence. "Christ the King." When you're on the same team as God, you've really got a victory to celebrate, and this reverence for all-powerful authority figures spills into politics.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 12/20/24 12:33:33 PM #46:	Anyone who gives respect to some random jackass is a fool. It's okay to respect work or what someone does, but no individual that you don't actually know deserves respect as a person until earned in person. Generally how I view things. I'll never respect someone strictly for being rich, nor for how they got there unless it's truly amazing for all humanity, and even that is a whole separate matter from whether that person is liked or not. So, I've never understood the hero worship of celebrities in general lol, and don't understand why people do. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:983371100] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Anyone who gives respect to some random jackass is a fool. It's okay to respect work or what someone does, but no individual that you don't actually know deserves respect as a person until earned in person. Generally how I view things. I'll never respect someone strictly for being rich, nor for how they got there unless it's truly amazing for all humanity, and even that is a whole separate matter from whether that person is liked or not.So, I've never understood the hero worship of celebrities in general lol, and don't understand why people do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 12/20/24 1:18:17 PM #47:	GrandConjuraton posted... "That could be me one day!" AceMos posted... people have been bombarded with messaging showing how great the rich are we have constant news articles about how "generous" the rich are when they donate to charity (that they often own) we are conditioned from birth to worship the elite --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:983371525] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>GrandConjuraton posted... </cite><quote>"That could be me one day!"</quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>people have been bombarded with messaging showing how great the rich arewe have constant news articles about how "generous" the rich are when they donate to charity (that they often own)we are conditioned from birth to worship the elite</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Board_hunter567 12/20/24 1:26:33 PM #48:	Socioeconomic systems exploit biological instinct and learned behaviors. Even if you realize you'll never be rich, chances are your way of life and survival depends on the rich getting richer. For example, if you have a 401k or IRA you're essentially counting on some form of "trickle down" and for stolen wealth to never be truly redistributed. --- http://i.imgur.com/szMsu.png Validate your purchases and discredit the purchases of others whenever possible. Numbers objectively define quality and enjoyment. <cite>Board_hunter567 posted [p:983371603] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>Socioeconomic systems exploit biological instinct and learned behaviors.Even if you realize you'll never be rich, chances are your way of life and survival depends on the rich getting richer. For example, if you have a 401k or IRA you're essentially counting on some form of "trickle down" and for stolen wealth to never be truly redistributed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myusernameislame 12/20/24 1:44:12 PM #49:	They need to believe that billionaires deserve it by being better than us, because if they had to accept how fucked up rampant capitalism has gotten at the top level, they'd also have to accept how fucked up it is at the ground level where they live. <cite>myusernameislame posted [p:983371784] in Why do so ... [t:80904717]...</cite> <quote>They need to believe that billionaires deserve it by being better than us, because if they had to accept how fucked up rampant capitalism has gotten at the top level, they'd also have to accept how fucked up it is at the ground level where they live.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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