Current Events > Are you kidding me? White women: 53% voted Trump; 46% voted Harris

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics

53% of white women did not want to participate in electing the first female president. This is not trivial - a 7% difference is HUGE.

I want to believe that all races are the same, and that they think and act the same. But clearly that's not true if 53% of women voted for Harris, and 46% of white women voted for Harris. Among white people in general, it's 57% Trump and 42% Harris, which suggests that white people are somewhat repelled by Harris for whatever reason.

Race should not be a big deal in 2024, but it clearly is. I really don't see why the color of the voter's skin should determine so much which candidate they vote for.

Racism and low information voters are what got us here in general.

murica needs its white man, donald would have lost against another white dude

They were happy to sacrifice their own rights as long as minorities would be hurt more than themselves. Enough to put a rapist and pedophile in power and cheer for him.

The fact that he got this many votes at all is depressing.

After all that talk about Roe v Wade and abortion access leading up to the election it turns out white women voted for Trump or stayed home. I can definitely see why black women threw up the deuces and told them to figure their own problems out.

America has historically been a sexist and racist country. 2024 wasn't going to change that.

I'd make a joke, but the last time I made such a joke concerning homosexual men, I got moderated, ugh.

Moms for Liberty ruined America. These poor fragile women (note to everyone: I am a middle-aged white woman who voted for Harris) were worried their little darlings might go to school and learn that they're not special snowflakes and that other people matter too.

I live in the SF Bay Area, and even around here we have a bunch of whiners who are afraid to let their kids read books because their kids might actually learn something. And who have benefitted from the high tax base but now want to complain that everything costs too much. (Note to them: eat less meat. Downsize your house. Stop driving a gas guzzler. Stop spoiling your kids rotten.)

Oh, and besides Moms for Liberty, the NextDoor app also led to the downfall of America. So much crime! So much unfairness! So much whining! Get off the app and go out in the real world once in a while, people.

I watched an interview a sociologist did with a former MAGA white woman and how she came to vote against her own self interests.

A lot of it was, from her point of view, very deeply routed misogyny against other women. She said that she was taught by other women and men around her that women who were successful were likely unlikeable, unloved, and did so through duplicitous means. She honestly truly believed that she did NOT want to be highly educated and a "feminist" as that would make her undesirable and basically only horrible women go that route.

She also said that an older, successful couple she was working for (she was a nanny/babysitter/house sitter) literally sat her down and taught her that democrats are wrong, they actively want to take away your rights to make money and be successful, and that "only young ignorant people vote left because they don't understand how the world and the economy works"

Since these people treated her very well (she said she was compensated well for her time, they treated her very well as an employee) she saw no reason for them to lie and saw them as her ideal to chase. So she kinda just believed whole-heartedly everything they told her and then when even her friends and family would try to bring a different point of view, all she would hear is her own misogyny and the teachings of this successful couple.

She said she was so convinced of being right that anyone who would even bring up things she knew DEEP DOWN were wrong, she just convinced herself she was too ignorant to understand why it was the right thing to do. The only thing that started to make her doubt Trump and MAGA was when multiple people she knew became exceptionally ill during COVID and all the lies that were spread. She said that it literally took family and friends dying because they listened to Trump about COVID before she thought, "Maybe these people don't actually know what they are talking about"

It was fascinating. She said that MANY of the "suburban white women" that are MAGA seemed to echo a similar experience to hers, at least from the people she spoke with and worked with directly.

In other words we really have a brainwashed culture at this gripping most of the country to the point that they embrace submitting to " The masters" and throwing themselves under the bus for the" word of god" ...and have many groups eagerly think if they sabotage themselves enough they will be rewarded...this is a deep rooted broken system at this point...the America Dream has clearly devolved into the American Nightmare where any thing that's linked to compassion other then" Glory to the winners" is seen as a sin...after all Trump is idolized because he's the ultimate winner...morals be damned...and he's clearly trying to push the nation to shred any last sense of morality and become a nation that fully embraces being the most sadistic hoard possible as long as they keep winning.

Necronmon posted...

they will be rewarded

they'll be rewarded alright... but not with positive results.

some will gain, many will lose.

i mean the fact that a businessman is even a presidential candidate at all instead of actual politicians speaks volumes about america

GrandConjuraton posted...

Racism and low information voters are what got us here in general.

pretty much

my coworker is a white woman who voted for Trump because "Kamala is unqualified" and "illegal immigrants are ruining the economy and hurting her husband's business" (note it's a very small business).

she was confused why RFK Jr was on state ballots after he dropped out, and uses language like "choosing lifestyles" to describe LGBTQ+ individuals.

the cognitive disconnect is unfathomable to me. On one hand she consistently speaks about women's rights and how some women are embarrassments to women as a whole, but on the other hand she voted for a man who has more sexual harassment and assault allegations than some entire county prison populations and who brags about objectifying and sexually harassing women.

What's the number on Hillary Clinton? Do they also voted more for Trump?

TC

Women in whatever category voted more for Harris than Trump.

More white women (than white men) voted for Harris!

CobraGT posted...

TC

Women in whatever category voted more for Harris than Trump.

More white women (than white men) voted for Harris!

More white women voted Trump than Harris. That's his point. Compared to white men, yes, more voted for Harris, but the majority of white women still voted for Trump.

GrandConjuraton posted...

Racism and low information voters are what got us here in general.

This.
The former are lost.
The latter is a demographic we can win back if we market/message better. We can't assume the latter is informed on what they voted for given many don't know what a tarrif is or couldn't tell you a single beneficial bill that passed under Biden.

You have to understand, the average voter isn't reading anything. They're not actively consuming media designed to inform them. They're not thinking through issues and trying to source information. If you're on CE you're already far more proactive about your media consumption choices.

The average voter passively watches 5 minutes of news soundbites and passively responds to facebook memes. Their information is a jpeg'd image on their feed that says that kamala wants to stab babies in the throat or whatever. That is what we're dealing with.

This also makes you wonder does married white women just follow their men's instructions like a dog?

Ricemills posted...

What's the number on Hillary Clinton? Do they also voted more for Trump?

Yes, I think in 2020 also

Dey do whatever deir husband tells em to, sadly

I'm just going to throw this out there. Could it be possible that we as humans naturally look to males for leadership? Like instinctually. It's been that way throughout recorded history. In remote tribes that have had little to no contact with the outside world, men are in charge. In the animal kingdom it's usually the male running the group. There are exceptions.

Maybe deep down on a biological level women want a strong male leader. They naturally look for strength in a partner, be it physical or on an alpha level.

America is always one step away from making it legal to shoot a woman or minority without legal repercussions so this is not a surprise.

Over half of white women believe they have too many rights apparently.

Justin2Krelian posted...

Yes, I think in 2020 also

I see
Sad to think that plenty of white women has been indoctrinated to be subservient to men, specifically white men.

LBJ told us why.

There is just too much hatred in this country and people do not want to change that. We are a lost cause at this point.

Funkydog posted...

Over half of white women believe they have too many rights apparently.

Unfortunately this isn't hyperbole. An alarming number of them believe they shouldn't be able to vote and should be subservient at all times.

Wasn't it 44/55 (Biden/Trump) in 2020?

pretty much

my coworker is a white woman who voted for Trump because "Kamala is unqualified" and "illegal immigrants are ruining the economy and hurting her husband's business" (note it's a very small business).

she was confused why RFK Jr was on state ballots after he dropped out, and uses language like "choosing lifestyles" to describe LGBTQ+ individuals.

the cognitive disconnect is unfathomable to me. On one hand she consistently speaks about women's rights and how some women are embarrassments to women as a whole, but on the other hand she voted for a man who has more sexual harassment and assault allegations than some entire county prison populations and who brags about objectifying and sexually harassing women.

What does she say about that? If Kamala was unqualifed and illegal immigrants are taking away all the jobs, what is her response then for voting in Orange with all that baggage with plans to ship illegals out (thus increasing the costs of goods and services because illegals do the work that American citizens refuse) or use of tariffs (which will increase the costs of everything from shoes to iPhones and potentially start a trade war)?

emblem-man posted...

Wasn't it 46/53 in 2020 as well

Trump actually did worse with whites this election compared to last election (but obviously still his best demographic). It was more that more whites voted as a proportion this election and every minority group shifted more to Trump compared to last election.

An even higher percentage voted for Trump over Biden

its sad how women hate themselves so much they dont think they deserve body autonomy

I think a lot of them were voting with their wallets too unfortunately.

rexcrk posted...

I think a lot of them were voting with their wallets too unfortunately.

If they voted with their wallets that would have chosen to vote Harris. So that's not it.

rexcrk posted...

I think a lot of them were voting with their wallets too unfortunately.

My ex who I was still friends with "voted with her wallet." We got into a huge argument over it when I saw her make a FB post saying "Of course Washington went blue ." It's so crazy how much misinformation she stated and how every time I would correct something she'd just get mad and double down and say something like "I'm sick of everyone and you trying to convince me to support Biden/Harris" Literally every talking point she had was pure misinformation. Saying things like she knew she'd never support democrats when they proved they didn't care about people since they ran out of money for FEMA due to sending all money to Ukraine. And she kept saying is all she knows is Trump wants to make groceries cheaper and she's struggling hardcore (single mom of 2 kids since husband is a deadbeat). What makes me super annoyed about it is she kept admitting she didn't have any information and didn't look into it but was hellbent on still supporting them.

pazzy posted...

If they voted with their wallets that would have chosen to vote Harris. So that's not it.

It is it for a lot of them. They were just terribly misinformed.

pazzy posted...

If they voted with their wallets that would have chosen to vote Harris. So that's not it.

Unless theyre under the delusion that the economy will improve under Trump

Not a surprise at all. Many women vote the same as their husband.

I really thought the repeal of roe v wade would have made some effect on the election and it appears I was wrong. That hinges on the general public actually realizing that Mitch blocked an Obama judge, leading Trump to appoint one he shouldn't have, and a second later on, to give the court it's majority. After some of these people said they weren't going after Roe.

Whatever I thought people might be voting on this time around was wildly ignorant. Just inflation. Bad. Economy bad. That's it. Almost anything else is overthinking it.

argonautweakend posted...

I really thought the repeal of roe v wade would have made some effect on the election and it appears I was wrong. That hinges on the general public actually realizing that Mitch blocked an Obama judge, leading Trump to appoint one he shouldn't have, and a second later on, to give the court it's majority. After some of these people said they weren't going after Roe.

Whatever I thought people might be voting on this time around was wildly ignorant. Just inflation. Bad. Economy bad. That's it.

I think the fact that many states had abortion as a referendum that they could vote on individually, independent of their presidential vote, impacted that.

I'm sure many voted for an abortion amendment while still voting Trump

slk_23 posted...

Race should not be a big deal in 2024, but it clearly is. I really don't see why the color of the voter's skin should determine so much which candidate they vote for.

"How can there possibly still be racism in America? All the Netflix shows have Black and/or Female leads?"

/s

pazzy posted...

If they voted with their wallets that would have chosen to vote Harris. So that's not it.

Sadly that is part of the reason. Even though stats say otherwise Republicans control the messaging that they are better on the economy and were more likely to lower prices.

TheSuperSilver posted...

What does she say about that? If Kamala was unqualifed and illegal immigrants are taking away all the jobs, what is her response then for voting in Orange with all that baggage with plans to ship illegals out (thus increasing the costs of goods and services because illegals do the work that American citizens refuse) or use of tariffs (which will increase the costs of everything from shoes to iPhones and potentially start a trade war)?

I'm curious but I also legitimately don't have the stomach to have a discussion about it because I anticipate a dozen possible responses and they are all highly ignorant.

Also she SUPPORTS the crackdown on illegals.

Everything she says just sounds like a repeat of Fox.

And yeah i agree with the sentiment that the average voter just gets news in five minute chunks because they don't have the time or interest to do real reading on these topics. And they also don't like having their worldview challenged.

Sorry to say, but I've learned that a lot of women, even women of color, are sexist against themselves. I've talked to quite a few women irl who thought Kamala would be too emotional and at times irrational to rule a whole country (another reminder that people think a president is a king).

nocturnal_traveler posted...

Sorry to say, but I've learned that a lot of women, even women of color, are sexist against themselves. I've talked to quite a few women irl who thought Kamala would be too emotional and at times irrational to rule a whole country (another reminder that people think a president is a king).

That vote tally is the embodiment of the Al Bundy quote:

"The only people that understand women are other women, and they hate each other."

Where the white women at? Voting for Trump, apparently.