Board 8 > Dog Mafia Topic 2: Puppy Power!

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wallmasterz posted...

you could have been the deciding vote but your vote stayed on death so

wasn't here, that should have been obvious by my lack of saying things like "this is stupid" and "I told you hes obviously vanilla, stop being bad".

htaeD posted...

Lot of people saying they want to vote Ulti
Nobody voting Ulti

##Vote: Ulti

Does not seem so hard

Mostly doing it because the more I read him, the more Tekken he feels.

This is when death voted ulti close to the end of the day.

This really comes across as town death in my book.

meanwhile i still don't feel great about death. death could you elaborate on the part of your message peaf quoted about ulti in tekken? i don't have the context

given my initial list of scumspects was death, dumey, and a throwaway of abacus with igcd as ??? i need to do some reconsideration

abacus really needs to show up

whoops didn't refresh after typing

there goes my whole list

also if ulti is in fact some kind of scanner as he appears to be claiming, i'm glad i listened to my gut on that first post breadcrumb

1. Red
2. Wallz
3. Ulti - some sort of scanner maybe?
4. Lopen - on IGCD, feel good otherwise
5. Hydras - on IGCD, i don't believe would move lynch off ulti like he did
7. Death - scanned by ulti - 'town. probably.'
8. Abacus
10. SBell
12. Peaf
13. Corrik - claimed cop

given my prior comments on the igcd lynch that's a pretty short list of people to look at. will do a reread at some point tonight or tomorrow morning

also peaf i would like if you answered the question i asked you about hydras' motivation to move the vote to IGCD

UltimaterializerX posted...

Me town usually makes SBell scum, because thats just how it is.

how not to play mafia for dummies

wallmasterz posted...

You have seemed pretty confident so far this game to me. I have been getting town vibes from you but I wish you would own your decision a bit more here. And I wouldnt like this much if it turns out not lynching ulti is good for scum. I do agree Lopen seems like a good choice if youre going to sheep someone though.

Not a fan of this comment.

My dislikes are basically

Corrik (until some rationale cause it's just wrong, sorry if this is scrub but w/e)
wallz
sbell
peaf

I'll be home tomorrow, so will actually engage then - but as far as Black Hydra goes I am against his Corrik read. The rest I am indifferent because of me not being caught up. But with Corrik, I say is a really good player, and should be more of an end game target if we have to choose.

More of a stats type of thing I guess - but the way he plays is always suspect early game (from what I've seen) and I'd rather him stay alive because he has more of a chance to be town. And if he is town, he'll have good insight. But late game he's a better lynch choice for the same reason - he's a good player.

I would like a recap though of anything important @TheSultanOfSlam

So many typos and loss of words... That's what happens on mobile I suppose. Yuck.

Wallz tends to be loud (no offense), and if they are scum it'll present itself eventually I feel.

Sbell and Peaf I would like to know reasoning behind. Cause both them (Peaf more so) are good players that have an easier time convincing others... Unlike than Corrik.

Day1 was so unergetic, I cant even find much to say about the people trying to lynch me.
Tho with Sbell it comes across as being a tiny bit deflective.

Cant say much about the tiebreaker either when I was already in it.
Tho I dont think I would have unvoted Ulti if I had been around for it.

Now I do appreciate Ulti having a 'probable' scan on me, and logically its not an unwise choice.
But I cant help feel paranoid that he may be trying to pocket me.

Corrik7 posted...

I see you all didn't kill the person I said. Surprising.

Maybe they would have, if you bothered to show up for the lynch

htaeD posted...

Now I do appreciate Ulti having a 'probable' scan on me, and logically its not an unwise choice.
But I cant help feel paranoid that he may be trying to pocket me.

I don't think I buy that he has a scan on you. Honestly he came out today flailing in a way that feels more like town Ulti than anything of the little he contributed day 1.

I was out for the night so Ill try to be more in depth tomorrow morning.

I still kinda think sbell is my pick for today. I dunno why he got total cold feet on Ulti when he was saying "why not Ulti" all day. But if people have better leads I'll certainly listen!

I was roleblocked obviously since we refused to lynch the roleblocker.

I feel like Ulti is connected to Dumey dying, duel to Dumey breaking the tie in his favor. Scum would never break that tie if Ulti was town. Tho Ulti being town is still only an incidental possibility

Chaeix posted...

meanwhile i still don't feel great about death. death could you elaborate on the part of your message peaf quoted about ulti in tekken? i don't have the context

given my initial list of scumspects was death, dumey, and a throwaway of abacus with igcd as ??? i need to do some reconsideration

abacus really needs to show up

On the phone. So short answer....

Ultis way of expressing suspicion day1 reminded me of the way he went after people in Tekken

Oh. Ulti fridays were not his active days? I might not have voted him to start with if I had known/remembered that

UltimaterializerX posted...

Death is town. Probably.

Couldn't target IGCD last night so I targeted him instead. He's good.

##vote: ultI

Small game, no way town has a tracker/watcher. More likely scum has one to find our Cop.

Couldn't target IGCD? The fucking obvious vanilla claim?

Should have stuck with the first post gut.

I'm gone starting around 2pm today, be back around 2ish-3ish monday.

Also this looks good for you death... the only thing you've got going for you at this point.

Chaeix posted...

if hydras was scum, why would he actively try to redirect the lynch onto a vanilla instead of an unclaimed townie, unless ulti was his scumbuddy? i would give any newbie the credit to recognize that as a bad scum play

This is the question you seriously want an answer to, jc? If i had a double vote I'd put the second one on you right now and expose myself just for how ridiculous you're being.

1. You're assuming scum thought igcd was finally being truthful about vanilla when he bounced around different things throughout the day - at one point people thought he was bp
2. You're assuming scum hydras knew that his vote and actions would actually get something going in a way that other things prior did not
3. You're assuming scum hydras wanted to protect his scum buddy Ulti who was not present and couldn't do it himself. That's a possibility but what are you insisting i answer to? "Idk I guess"? This whole thing feels like you're trying so hard to get recognized for making a case on someone. Here's your pat on the back. You're still scum.

Obellisk posted...

Couldn't target IGCD? The fucking obvious vanilla claim?

Sbell what are you talking about

PeaceFrog posted...

Sbell what are you talking about

he said he couldnm't target IGCD, (because we lynched him obviously), but the fact he had to say that as if it was what he was going to do had we not lynched him...

I think its fluff words that attempt to make him look more town, however really it just shows his hand.

Ah gotcha. Thanks.

The feel when on reread of the day your top suspect has the best case on anyone currently and it's on the guy he randomly stopped suspecting yesterday when he had the chance to actually lynch.

On the one hand
It was likely a town town lynch as scum doesn't want scum town to go to the judges.

On the other
I could see kill of Dumey being a way to "exonerate" scum Ulti here and more people were being loudly anti IGCD than anti Ulti at end of day. Ulti's scum partners would have to be like two people there is no trust to carry the game.

I could actually see an Ulti sbell Hydras team for the latter scenario which would make a lot of sense for how the end of the day went-- maybe Sbell just redistancing from Ulti here. But uncle Occam says Ulti probably just town?

I think I still like sbell better as a lynch. I could see his play working as scum with scum or town Ulti here.

##Vote: sbell

Lopen you really flip scum this game?

I'll admit I was blindly letting you sit as town in my head so far, but that last post is pretty bad even for your standards.

that should say "roll scum". I'm sure death will say I slipped or something.

Is it only bad because I voted you or do you have something else wrong with it

svell redistsncing himself from ulti. I never distanced or undistanced myself in yhe first place

you are creating narratives to fit a story which makes no sense

it's bad thought process.
it's bad mafia

it's either you are garbage at deductive reasoning or you are scum.

Cause I'll tell you this

Tunneling Ulti
Having the chance to lynch Ulti yesterday
Getting cold feet
And then going right back to tunneling Ulti today

It feels like you're just looking to autopilot tunnel so you don't have to think about trying to have actual suspicions.

Lopen posted...

Tunneling Ulti
Having the chance to lynch Ulti yesterday
Getting cold feet
And then going right back to tunneling Ulti today

first post vote for fun.
then really plating which Involved unvoting ulti..
then voting for my gut death and leaving for the night?

sure that's all the same.

To be clear I think Ulti is likely town due to town tiebreaking end of day yesterday-- and I assume Ulti had Friday Night Magic so it made sense he wasn't around for eod.

I was just saying I could see this being a scum scum interaction too.

Obellisk posted...

first post vote for fun.

You said "why not vote Ulti" multiple times during the day

Trying to play it off as a joke vote is disingenuous

Lopen posted...

You said "why not vote Ulti" multiple times during the day

Trying to play it off as a joke vote is disingenuous

how many times?

I dunno exactly I wanna say 2 or 3 times

because if you know anything about my storied 12 year career in mafia you'd know that I attempt to lynch ulti day 1 just about every game for funsies and realsies.

so saying "Why notnulti" means next to nothing

You were being an imp saying go to Ulti when IGCD wasn't playing out

I'm not gonna say you convinced me to try for that one, but you were egging it on

but please continue to base your running theories for the game on that.

Eh I don't think you do

You do basically suspect Ulti 10/10 times but it often stops short entirely by like page 3 topic 1

Ok so if it's not you and I don't think it's Ulti due to Eod1 who is it. We gotta use your time here to theorize since you're gonna be gone for a lot of today.

Like even if you're set on assuming it could be Ulti the thing that would make sense would be to find his scummates and lynch them. I think if it's scum Ulti vs town IGCD they don't let town decide it.

Sbells comment about Ulti is a post I actually like from him.
Any tracker that wants to target IGCD at that point is just bad, so it makes me wonder what role Ulti could be instead. And I just imagine roles that fit scum more.

Obellisk posted...

Also this looks good for you death... the only thing you've got going for you at this point.

Why cant we be friends like everyone else :(

Lopen also is saying what I wanted to say about Ulti being a key variable for the Dumey kill.
Tho overall I feel like Dumey was just seen as a towny player anyway.

Tracker potentially wants to scan suspected claimed vanillas to verify they aren't moving at night and townclear them-- I disagree that sbell's logic is on point there.

Like I can follow it I just don't think it means a lot. There are a lot of ways to play tracker and I think the outlined way is fine. (and also Ulti can just be lying outright because he does that)

Obellisk posted...

that should say "roll scum". I'm sure death will say I slipped or something.

Nah that does not even make sense as a slip since Lopen is not being lynched at the moment.