Current Events > Don't mean to sound dark, but since women rights are gone.

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Lmbo do people still have sex in 2024?

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Bro you're still on about that Walsh post? I hope you realize that y'all are giving it the exact reaction he wanted you to give. Literally a joke/troll post, but people are treating it seriously, exactly like he wanted. I hope you guys realize that any time you use that Walsh post as "proof" that Project 2025 is the agenda, you're proving him right about social media literacy.

You're really using the "it's just a joke brah" defense?

C'mon, you are smarter than this.

ooger posted...

You're really using the "it's just a joke brah" defense?

C'mon, you are smarter than this.

I see you haven't seen Gob in a Chappelle topic.

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Yes, and that's because Project 2025 is a massive hodgepodge of almost every proposed conservative idea, both reasonable and not. Notice that among those 270 proposed policies are none (or very few) of the insane things which people constantly tout as the reason it's so bad. The article you link has also mentioned 464 parts of Project 2025 which do not align with Trump's plans or previous actions. So, in a massive, sweeping wishlist of moderate and extreme conservative agendas, is it really that alarming that like 2/5ths of it might match up with the wishlist of a Republican presidential candidate?

Trump isn't talking about banning pornography, or putting massive nationwide restrictions on abortion, etc. He has gone on record saying that he wants individual states to handle things like abortion, which I think is reasonable, personally. My state just voted to reinstate abortion rights, so now we have them, and those rights are now going to be in the Missouri constitution, instead of precariously teetering on the tip of a Supreme Court ruling which (as proven) could have been overturned at any time.

Repealing Roe v Wade was a pretty disastrous thing to do, and it has caused a ton of problems, but if there's any silver lining, it's that states will now be compelled to decide their own laws on the matter without depending on the ongoing existence of Roe v Wade.

ooger posted...

You're really using the "it's just a joke brah" defense?

C'mon, you are smarter than this.

Read the comments under the post. Hell, look at this post:

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1854602471705813266

I implore you to go to the website that's linked in the post. If you sincerely think this isn't a joke, then you might need to recalibrate your sarcasm/irony detector.

As dystopian as project 2025 sounds this is a large leap into dooming to suggest that the majority or Americans voted in favor of a president to not only become a dictator but also agree to send people in concentration camps and legalize rape.

These politicians have really done a number on you folks radicalizing both sides into believing the absolute worst of these candidates. This tactic of rilling up voters for votes has been disastrous from both sides.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Read the comments under the post. Hell, look at this post:

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1854602471705813266

I implore you to go to the website that's linked in the post. If you sincerely think this isn't a joke, then you might need to recalibrate your sarcasm/irony detector.

I implore you to think a little harder.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/11/07/trump-dc-federal-workforce-cuts/

ooger posted...

I implore you to think a little harder.

Downsizing the bloat of federal agencies has always been part of Trump's plan, though? How is this new or surprising? And what does this have to do with the Matt Walsh tweet?

Did you visit the website? At least tell me whether or not you visited the website.

apocalyptic_4 posted...

As dystopian as project 2025 sounds this is a large leap into dooming to suggest that the majority or Americans voted in favor of a president to not only become a dictator but also agree to send people in concentration camps and legalize rape.

This has historical precedent so don't think it can't happen.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Downsizing the bloat of federal agencies has always been part of Trump's plan, though? How is this new or surprising? And what does this have to do with the Matt Walsh tweet?

The details of how, are outlined explicitly in project 2025. Federally agencies are already using project 2025 to anticipate the sweeping changes that will occur in Jan & beyond.

ooger posted...

The details of how, are outlined explicitly in project 2025

Because Project 2025 is a massive wishlist of conservative ideas compiled by a think tank of conservatives with moderate and extreme views.

Obviously there will be some overlap. But scaling back the perceived bloat and overreach of federal agencies has always been one of Trump's campaign points, even back in 2016 when he talked about how inefficient and unreliable the VA was for veteran healthcare.

So, the fact that Project 2025 mentions scaling back federal agencies is not a coincidence. It's probably in there because Trump has already done some of it, and wants to do more. This does not mean that the entirety of Project 2025 is the entirety of the Trump agenda.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

And that his agenda (Agenda 47) doesn't have any of the insane things from Project 2025 listed in it.

What a dirty fucking lie you told there.

https://whyy.org/articles/elections-2024-trump-harris-project-2025-maga/

Why does Gob choose to be these things?

apocalyptic_4 posted...

As dystopian as project 2025 sounds this is a large leap into dooming to suggest that the majority or Americans voted in favor of a president to not only become a dictator but also agree to send people in concentration camps and legalize rape.

Trump literally said he'd be a dictator on day one, and he said he'd put migrants on trains and send to camps (allegedly for deportation).

A majority of the American electorate apparently voted for him.

Ergo, a majority of the American electorate voted in favor of a dictator who said he'd send people to concentration camps.

At what point did your reading comprehension fail you?

apocalyptic_4 posted...

As dystopian as project 2025 sounds this is a large leap into dooming to suggest that the majority or Americans voted in favor of a president to not only become a dictator but also agree to send people in concentration camps and legalize rape.

These politicians have really done a number on you folks radicalizing both sides into believing the absolute worst of these candidates. This tactic of rilling up voters for votes has been disastrous from both sides.

Shut the fuck up with this generic same thing both sides horseshit.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Repealing Roe v Wade was a pretty disastrous thing to do, and it has caused a ton of problems, but if there's any silver lining, it's that states will now be compelled to decide their own laws on the matter without depending on the ongoing existence of Roe v Wade.

It's not a silver lining to leave states to individually decide on a person's previously-decided federal, Constitutional right.

It's letting states strip away freedoms of the people.

But you know that. Because we know what you are.

SaikyoStyle posted...

Why does Gob choose to be these things?

He's a Republican. It's how they do.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Because Project 2025 is a massive wishlist of conservative ideas compiled by a think tank of conservatives with moderate and extreme views.

Obviously there will be some overlap.

Yeah, e.g. Project 2025 is the best road map people have for what Trump may do given that his campaign team doesn't have a plan.

You're just spouting pendantics at this point, Gob.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Obviously there will be some overlap.

Weird. What happened to what you said in post 86? You know, this one:

And that his agenda (Agenda 47) doesn't have any of the insane things from Project 2025 listed in it.

This is called "moving the goalposts," or, "How gobby told a dirty fucking lie. Again."

Oh look, another round of "Gobbles Goes to Bat for Shitheels."

Predictable as the weather, this guy.

LOL at Republicans denying that Project 2025 is the plan.

Of course it's the plan. Trump himself doesn't have any policies, so his administration's policies will be whatever his GOP minders want them to be.

And Trump will surround himself with the GOP scum that wrote Project 2025.

Personnel is policy.

EPR-radar posted...

Personnel is policy

That one's called Schedule F.

They've cornered the market on evil and soft coup.

DnDer posted...

What a dirty fucking lie you told there.

When I say "crazy things" I mean like the pornography ban, and other such things that aren't directly in line with Trump's agenda already. You're not pointing out anything I was referring to.

DnDer posted...

You know, this one:

I specified "insane things."

None of that stuff is insane.

EPR-radar posted...

He's a Republican. It's how they do.

Independent, actually.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

When I say "crazy things" I mean like the pornography ban, and other such things that aren't directly in line with Trump's agenda already. You're not pointing out anything I was referring to.

https://www.techdirt.com/2024/11/07/porn-is-protected-speech-trumps-new-presidency-will-test-that-sentiment-the-courts-can-uphold-it/

Russell Vought, one of the central architects of Project 2025, was caught on hidden camera a few months ago confirming that the efforts to ban porn will go through a so-called back door framework via a patchwork of state-level age verification laws and efforts in a newly GOP-controlled Senate. In addition to that, Vance has supported a porn ban. It was also under Donald Trumps last term that the FOSTA-SESTA monstrosity that decimated legal sex work on the internet came to fruition. Imagine what will advance under Trump.

Whoop's, wrong again.

ooger posted...

Whoop's, wrong again.

It's the only thing he's actually good at.

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dameon_reaper posted...

The only time rape is going to be in the woman's favor is likely if the man is of color or if their sexuality doesn't align with the straight whites.

Now imagine the disadvantage of minority women vs. white man.

Not 70 years ago you could just snatch up a black woman walking on the street, kidnap her and rape her, and get away completely scott free. And back then wasn't as incel hate-women as much as it is now.

ooger posted...

Whoop's, wrong again.

Guess we'll see what happens. Neither one of us knows for sure, hmm?

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No, please do, go ahead and say it.

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LMAO

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Guess we'll see what happens. Neither one of us knows for sure, hmm?

Well, one of us reads the news and the other mashes the keyboard. hmmm?

ooger posted...

Well, one of us reads the news and the other mashes the keyboard. hmmm?

You must have a sturdy keyboard, then. Surprised all the keys still work.

What other bad takes do you have for us tonight?

ooger posted...

What other bad takes do you have for us tonight?

Tons and tons of them, but you'll have to ask me specific questions if you want to hear any.

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Still waiting on you to say what you mean, by the way. It's a bit disappointing if you're going to allude to some kind of insulting remark without actually committing to the thought.

Why not say it? Is it something moddable?

I'll bet it's something moddable.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Tons and tons of them, but you'll have to ask me specific questions if you want to hear any.

Which way do you place the toilet paper on the dispenser?

TMOG posted...

This topic is demonstrating why each and every person on CE needs to have Gob on their block list.

Or, you know, the mods/admins could step up and take care of it for us.

Didn't he used to be relatively well-liked here once upon a time?

MabinogiFan posted...

Didn't he used to be relatively well-liked here once upon a time?

No.

DrizztLink posted...

No.

I'm still well-liked by a decent number of people here. The people who get, like, way into politics tend to dislike me on either side because I disagree with both ends of the political landscape quite often.

I don't mind it, so long as they don't lie about me, or try to be cute with 'subtle' insults and implications.

I respect people who say what they mean, and mean what they say. Which is one of the reasons I lost so much respect for Trump when he was such a baby about losing in 2020.

But, just because I generally don't like Trump much anymore, it doesn't mean I'm going to sit around and watch people spread misinformation and conjecture as if it's certified fact.

ooger posted...

Which way do you place the toilet paper on the dispenser?

The open piece goes over the top.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

The open piece goes over the top.

Good. As nature intended.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

But, just because I generally don't like Trump much anymore, it doesn't mean I'm going to sit around and watch people spread misinformation and conjecture as if it's certified fact.

Welp, you are free to ignore facts, I guess.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Tons and tons of them, but you'll have to ask me specific questions if you want to hear any.

Do you think it's crazy to remove public health safeguards like vaccination mandates for school kids or fluoride in our drinking water to protect kids' teeth?

while it is a bit extreme to say that they are legalizing rape and sexual assault, I wouldn't put it past the GQP remove the laws on marital rape

The_Wheelman1 posted...

Are they trying to legalize rape and sexual assault? Because that's what all this would lead to and just downright vile and disgusting. I feel so bad for all women in this country.

They've been trying to weaken the laws (but not eliminate them) for rape, domestic abuse, and sexual assault for some time. In particular they don't think that psychological abuse of the spouse is a form of domestic abuse, unless it is repeated threats to harm the spouse, children, or pets (and unfortunately they're not too keen on animals having any sorts of protections whatsoever)

LonelyStoner posted...

Luckily my wife and I have a stockpile of abortion pills in case her birth control fails.

Yeah, you do realize those have a limited shelf life, right? A lot of medications lose some degree of effectiveness after a year.

ai123 posted...

People could also just get a divorce instead of murdering their partner, but they don't always.
Murder is the leading cause of death for pregnant women.

Project 2025 IIRC wants to eliminate no-fault divorce, or require a 1-year waiting period for most divorce. Also, most guys who murder their pregnant spouse do it because they don't want to pay for child support, suffer the social/political fallout from the stigma of divorce amongst the right, and in addition, they're arrogant enough to believe that they'll get away with it (there is no way to fix this type of stupid, because they are either already deluded enough to think they can outsmart the authorities or they react impulsively *i.e. they act without considering the consequences of said action* -- either way, the threat of prison time or worse fails to deter them, and there can be no convincing them otherwise because again, they are either too arrogant or too impulsive.

EPR-radar posted...

LOL at Republicans denying that Project 2025 is the plan.
Of course it's the plan.

But, but Trump said it wasn't the plan...

Of course it's the plan. Trump himself doesn't have any policies, so his administration's policies will be whatever his GOP minders want them to be.
And Trump will surround himself with the GOP scum that wrote Project 2025.
Personnel is policy.

You're looking at this from the wrong point of view. Trump sometimes feels the need to reward those who put him in power. Hence the weakening of the Johnson Amendment, putting anti-choice dominionists in the SCOTUS, and going after Trans people, despite the fact that Trump doesn't believe in any of that shit and in some cases is actually opposed to it (but see, none of those will affect him personally. If he needs some chick to get an abortion, he can simply fly her out of the country to get one. And Trump isn't going to be affected in any way by the other two.
Do note that this isn't always a good litmus test on what type of bone he'll throw to his supporters. He had wanted to censor the media for more than a decade, in spite of the fact that, outside of dictator powers, this law would affect his precious Newsmax, OANN, etc. even more than it would affect CNN/MSNBC/NYT/Fox News/etc. a lot worse. Hence why none of the neocons *and only a minority of Tea Party republicans* support it)

That's an unhinged thing to believe. Also women's rights are not gone. Please relax