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Thompson
11/06/24 11:22:51 PM
#101:


If Zelensky thinks a peace deal won't stop Putin from conquering Ukraine, he will not accept it.
Similarly, if Putin thinks he's winning through military means, he's not going to accept a peace deal.

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ablegator
11/06/24 11:25:37 PM
#102:


Thompson posted...
If Zelensky thinks a peace deal won't stop Putin from conquering Ukraine, he will not accept it.
Similarly, if Putin thinks he's winning through military means, he's not going to accept a peace deal.
Putin is counting on US troops. And he will possibly get them now.

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Thompson
11/06/24 11:56:44 PM
#103:


ablegator posted...
Putin is counting on US troops. And he will possibly get them now.
What? Trump is a colossal idiot, but I don't think him, or anyone in his administration, much less in the US military from the generals to the common grunts, have any intention or desire to send the US army to fight side-by-side with Russian and North Koreans against Ukraine.
That'd piss off Ukraine of course, but also most if not all of Europe, South Korea, Australia and Taiwan probably. Possibly even Israel, since Russia is allied with Iran, and what benefits Russia benefits Iran and what benefits Iran hurts Israel.
In what world would the Israel-loving GOP and Trump agree to do something that has the likely odds of turning them into an enemy of Israel?

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Sir_Will
11/07/24 12:43:43 AM
#104:


ablegator posted...
Putin is counting on US troops. And he will possibly get them now.
wtf are you talking about? Yes, Trump rolls over for Russia but nothing like THAT. Holy fuck.

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Chev427BB
11/07/24 2:16:26 AM
#105:


Yeah, that's crazy. He probably just won't send aid anymore, which is still bad, but he's not going to put boots on the ground for Russia and North Korea. That would be political and economic suicide for him, he would almost certainly spark a wider war doing that and tank the US economy.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
11/07/24 2:21:41 AM
#106:


ablegator posted...
Putin is counting on US troops. And he will possibly get them now.
The military might genuinely have him killed or removed from power if he pulled something like that.

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marthsheretoo
11/07/24 2:28:22 AM
#107:


Thompson posted...
What? Trump is a colossal idiot, but I don't think him, or anyone in his administration, much less in the US military from the generals to the common grunts, have any intention or desire to send the US army to fight side-by-side with Russian and North Koreans against Ukraine.
That'd piss off Ukraine of course, but also most if not all of Europe, South Korea, Australia and Taiwan probably. Possibly even Israel, since Russia is allied with Iran, and what benefits Russia benefits Iran and what benefits Iran hurts Israel.
In what world would the Israel-loving GOP and Trump agree to do something that has the likely odds of turning them into an enemy of Israel?

Yeah, Russia won't get US troops. Just US intel through back channels.

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Trelve
11/07/24 3:02:28 AM
#108:


marthsheretoo posted...
Yeah, Russia won't get US troops. Just US intel through back channels.
NATO wouldn't allow that to happen.
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Thompson
11/07/24 3:03:29 AM
#109:


Well, I suppose now that the Black Sea Fleet has been neutered, it's time to neuter the Caspian Sea Fleet.
https://twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/status/1854092326026547323

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Sandalorn
11/07/24 3:25:29 AM
#110:


Trelve posted...
NATO wouldn't allow that to happen.


Donald Trump hates NATO and won't give one shit what they think. It will be surprising if we are still even in NATO by the end of his first year. NATO won't be able to even know phone conversations or messaging is going on between Trump and Putin anyway.

They aren't stopping anything from Trump.
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Thompson
11/07/24 3:37:16 AM
#111:


Some additional context to Ukraine funding and the future Trump presidency, Biden and allies have taken cautionary measures to safeguard funding to Ukraine through NATOs NSATU in the event of this election. Available funds from the USA are going to be emptied out into the NATO organization itself or directly to Ukraine thus unavailable to be cut by a Trump presidency.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20241027-europe-guardrails-tries-to-trump-proof-security-nato

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CADE_FOSTER
11/07/24 2:11:55 PM
#112:


https://youtu.be/VwKXaDh2IJI?si=yEAHVHvoXsLJ420d

Ukraine is fucked so are the people this sucks
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Thompson
11/08/24 9:36:49 AM
#113:


https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1854873331020746775

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Foppe
11/08/24 10:35:17 AM
#114:


...is that a direct attack on NATO?

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-Crissaegrim-
11/08/24 11:54:02 AM
#115:


Foppe posted...
...is that a direct attack on NATO?

Gee, I wonder what recent event would have emboldened them to do a thing like that.

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Trelve
11/08/24 3:37:37 PM
#116:


https://www.axios.com/2024/11/08/musk-trump-zelensky-ukraine-call

Zelensky calls Trump who then invites Elon Musk into the call for whatever reason.
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SaikyoStyle
11/08/24 3:41:25 PM
#117:


Chev427BB posted...
Yeah, that's crazy. He probably just won't send aid anymore and will try to force Ukraine to sign a one-sided peace agreement that basically gives Russia everything they want, which is still bad, but he's not going to put boots on the ground for Russia and North Korea. That would be political and economic suicide for him, he would become an international pariah to all democratic nations and almost certainly spark a wider war doing that.
Everybody around him knows he doesnt have the attention span or temperament to manage a war. Plus, did he spend a lot of time bragging about how he never got us into any wars as president? If he does that now then he cant brag anymore.

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Sir_Will
11/08/24 4:59:56 PM
#118:


Trelve posted...
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/08/musk-trump-zelensky-ukraine-call

Zelensky calls Trump who then invites Elon Musk into the call for whatever reason.
Oh FFS....

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name_unknown
11/08/24 5:08:11 PM
#119:


Sir_Will posted...
Oh FFS....
well it could have been Putin instead. Trump knows how to get him directly.
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ROBANN_88
11/09/24 9:33:14 AM
#120:


why is it that whenever i see a drone drop video on Russkies, so many of them don't appear to be carrying their weapons?
and many are walking around all alone

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ROBANN_88
11/09/24 4:15:07 PM
#121:


another video dropped of Russians shooting a surrendered prisoner.
obviously can't post a direct link to it but it's currently on the top of r/UkraineWarVideoReport/

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Notti
11/12/24 5:08:15 AM
#122:


https://imgur.com/fRsBZHI

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Humble_Novice
11/12/24 8:09:13 AM
#123:


https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1gpgva3/the_eu_has_delivered_over_980000_shells_to/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1gpfnxo/denmark_signs_contracts_to_purchase_629_million/
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ROBANN_88
11/13/24 9:49:56 AM
#124:


https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1gqa7ri/car_bomb_kills_russian_naval_commander_in_crimea/

Car bomb in Sevastopol kills Russian high level commander of the Black Sea fleet

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CADE_FOSTER
11/13/24 9:50:40 AM
#125:


keep going Ukraine
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Thompson
11/15/24 1:12:09 AM
#126:


https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1857119001572262169


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Irrelevant
11/15/24 1:19:38 AM
#127:


Sounds like they are pumping as much money and stuff into Ukraine before Biden is out. Plus seems some neighboring countries want to form up with Ukraine some with Poland taking the lead on this.

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Thompson
11/16/24 1:00:33 AM
#128:


Sort of a PSA and not Ukraine news, but a bunch of OSINT peeps on Twitter that I think are trustworthy have Bluesky accounts.
https://bsky.app/profile/specialkhersoncat.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com
https://bsky.app/profile/andrewperpetua.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/kyivindependent.com

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Humble_Novice
11/16/24 1:19:26 AM
#129:


Thompson posted...
Sort of a PSA and not Ukraine news, but a bunch of OSINT peeps on Twitter that I think are trustworthy have Bluesky accounts.
https://bsky.app/profile/specialkhersoncat.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com
https://bsky.app/profile/andrewperpetua.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/kyivindependent.com
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Foppe
11/17/24 12:15:27 AM
#130:


They are now carrying their robot dogs with drones.
https://youtu.be/B25bvRv_PVk?si=wFYzwEqzC4-b0utL


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Foppe
11/17/24 2:33:44 PM
#131:


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/us/politics/biden-ukraine-russia-atacms-missiles.html

Biden Allows Ukraine to Strike Russia With Long-Range U.S. Missiles
With two months left in office, the president for the first time authorized the Ukrainian military to use the system known as ATACMS to help defend its forces in the Kursk region of Russia.

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doesntcare
11/17/24 2:34:54 PM
#132:


Just read that on a notification^
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ROBANN_88
11/17/24 2:36:12 PM
#133:


hell yeah
fucking finally

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Dynedux
11/17/24 2:37:49 PM
#134:


Two months may be too little too late

but something better than nothing

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Wedge_Antilles
11/17/24 2:41:49 PM
#135:


Once Trump comes in, if he cuts off aid to Ukraine, is there any reason for them to listen to him if he reverses the decision with the ATACMS?

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Dynedux
11/17/24 2:50:09 PM
#136:


Nope. But once the ammo is gone/weapon platforms are compromised, thats it

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ROBANN_88
11/17/24 8:12:49 PM
#137:


So can they hit anywhere or does it just extend to Kursk?

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Dynedux
11/17/24 10:08:51 PM
#138:


Their range is about 300km

Still nothing that can touch Moscow unfortunately

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Thompson
11/18/24 12:43:24 AM
#139:


Dynedux posted...
Their range is about 300km

Still nothing that can touch Moscow unfortunately
Ukraine has used drones to hit military targets in Moscow, though.

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Dynedux
11/18/24 12:44:42 AM
#140:


Yes, they have means to hit Moscow under very special circumstances, Im just saying these wont be used for that (likely. Technically anything is possible)

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Kradek
11/18/24 12:49:46 AM
#141:


Foppe posted...
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/us/politics/biden-ukraine-russia-atacms-missiles.html

Biden Allows Ukraine to Strike Russia With Long-Range U.S. Missiles
With two months left in office, the president for the first time authorized the Ukrainian military to use the system known as ATACMS to help defend its forces in the Kursk region of Russia.

Better late than never, however with so little time left the two almost overlap.

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Ferarri619
11/18/24 10:17:20 PM
#142:


How effective could South Korean aid be if Trump cuts aid?
With North Korea getting involved hopefully South Korea starts sending aid.

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Dynedux
11/18/24 10:24:24 PM
#143:


If/When Trump cuts all aid to Ukraine there isnt anything that can make up for it. Also doubt SK will send anything considering they have their own crazy ass aggressor on their door step


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Foppe
11/18/24 11:26:15 PM
#144:


The undersea Internet cables between Sweden/Lithuania and Finland/Germany have been damaged and won't work.
Russia is suspected.

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Dynedux
11/18/24 11:27:07 PM
#145:


Seems like a direct attack on NATO

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Thompson
11/19/24 3:36:03 AM
#146:


https://bsky.app/profile/vatniksoup.bsky.social/post/3laykrdbtc222
I think the Kremlin is preparing to conduct massive sabotage operations on underwater Internet cables. First of all, Russian authorities is planning to do a series of exercises to disconnect the RuNet from the global Internet.

Second, Patrushev recently claimed that the US and the UK are planning to blow up these cables. As soon as RuNet is fully separated from the global network, Russia is ready to launch these sabotage operations.

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Foppe
11/19/24 6:09:58 AM
#147:


Ukraine used American long distance missile to destroy Russian military facility 13 mil from the border.

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ROBANN_88
11/19/24 8:02:37 AM
#148:


Foppe posted...
Ukraine used American long distance missile to destroy Russian military facility 13 mil from the border.

did you mean 130 kilometers, or the Imperial 13 miles?

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Foppe
11/19/24 9:14:36 AM
#149:


European 130 km.

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Thompson
11/19/24 9:59:44 AM
#150:


ROBANN_88 posted...
did you mean 130 kilometers, or the Imperial 13 miles?
I think Foppe didn't mean 130 miles, but tretton mil.

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