Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXVI: Day 7 [smfffc]

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GenesisSaga posted...

Of all the Viera we COULD lose you guys pick the best.

Should've given Frn a carrot yourself then

Mobilezoid posted...

For Mog IX

I was 50/50 on whether to make that post as it was or post @-ing you directly since I figured you needed it too, lol. Sounds good, thanks.

So now my first save will be Yuffie/Cloud, the two undisputed lead characters of the Remake trilogy content.

Robazoid posted...

So now my first save will be Yuffie/Cloud, the two undisputed lead characters of the Remake trilogy content.

Until the Vincent DLC in Rebirth anyway

get your FF9 character saves in while you can, I know once you play Rebirth it'll be infinity Yuffie saves forevermore.

Edit: found the past contest moment I was thinking about, lol

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a6d37d0f.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/4/6/AAC56kAAEm7u.jpg

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Should've given Frn a carrot yourself then

Too busy saving her man, sorry.

Liking Yuffie is just amazing taste

Damn, I forgot how quick these rounds go

MartinFF7 posted...

get your FF9 character saves in while you can, I know once you play Rebirth it'll be infinity Yuffie saves forevermore.

Edit: found the past contest moment I was thinking about, lol

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a6d37d0f.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/4/6/AAC56kAAEm7u.jpg

Consider it

CALLED

If only Roba had become a Cait Sith fan instead...

Welp no point in nominating Jote next contest if not one, but both of her sisters are hard booted. Sure, she could carry the mantle for her family, but I do believe it is her family that would give her strength, and not the other way around. I also do not believe in proxy voting. It seems we've instead chosen the sidequest Viera darkest timeline (to the surprise of absolutely no one).

Oh mentioned in discord but after playing Rebirth Red was a big winner from that game, and Cid H was a big loser. (although he and Vincent didnt really do much yet)

on a side note, replaying XII a few years ago made me realize Fran is my least favorite playable FF character, her characterization is so off putting to me. Chewbacca with migraines in like 70% of screen time.

FRAN

CVIII - 13/75
CIX - 27/75
CX - 48/75
CXI - 63/75
CXII - 66/75 (Booted)
CXIV - 69/102
CXV - 44/100
CXVI - 57/100
CXVII - 64/100
CXVIII - 68/100
CXIX - 74/100
CXX - 59/100
CXXI - 100/100 (Booted)
CXXV - 63/100
CXXVI - 94/100 (Booted)

overall STATS: 35.78% / down 2.05% - 97th/138 (down 7)
newSTATS: 31.93% / down 2.77% - 99th/117 (down 6)
leftySTATS: 22.00% / down 5.00% - 80th/80 (debut)

Fran's "bottomed" out you might say

Congrats to Zenos.

Oh shit Fran's a bottom now

I didn't realize how bad she's been recently

She hasn't really had a good showing since her first two years. She was just more mediocre than outright bad until recently.

XII in general has been bad for a long long time. It's a fight for any of them to look decent; I like Fran okay, not sure why she was brought back if no one is gonna support her though. Better to leave her like Dr. Cid and out of the contest permanently.

I dislike Fran. Revenant Wings boosted my opinion of Vaan and Penelo but greatly lowered my opinions of Balthier and Fran, and she wasn't very high to begin with!

I wonder if anyone else could outdo her at the bottom of newstats?

FFDragon posted...

Oh shit Fran's a bottom now

I didn't realize how bad she's been recently

Seifer's debuting in leftystats this year and the placement he needs to achieve to not be the new bottom will shock you!!

MartinFF7 posted...

Seifer's debuting in leftystats this year and the placement he needs to achieve to not be the new bottom will shock you!!

Challenge accepted

Fran is kinda not good but she's so weak it's nothing worth celebrating about. It's not spicy. She's also like, only a little bad, so I don't really care if she does well.

Good elim though, no complaints.

Leonhart4 posted...

Challenge accepted

Taking on the challenge before you even know what it is. I like that attitude.

Oh seifer's always been a bottom so nothing would surprise me

Also

@UltimaterializerX

You seemed confused about the seething yesterday.

Terra is my least favorite character in the field and I could go into detail on the why if you want because I won't turn down an opportunity to rant about what an annoying character she is (it especially bugs me because I SHOULD like her she checks a lot of good boxes)

Mewtwo59 posted...

Taking on the challenge before you even know what it is. I like that attitude.

It will be undeniable proof that he totally owned you lamers

Lopen posted...

Also

UltimaterializerX

You seemed confused about the seething yesterday.

Terra is my least favorite character in the field and I could go into detail on the why if you want because I won't turn down an opportunity to rant about what an annoying character she is (it especially bugs me because I SHOULD like her she checks a lot of good boxes)

Ooh, Id like to hear!

What is love? I am boring.

oh no, bad elim. I like Fran and prefer her in the contest, but if she's just going to bottom out like this, then probably best she just stays out for a while.

*does the math to see what Seifer needs to avoid last place in the leftySTATS*

Actually, it's not quite as daunting as Martin made it sound.

He could actually tie for last in the leftySTATS too, at least if you round to the hundredths.

Lopen posted...

I won't turn down an opportunity to rant about what an annoying character she is (it especially bugs me because I SHOULD like her she checks a lot of good boxes)

I'd presume the reason you despise her as much as you do is because she checks all those boxes. You feel like you should love her. And yet you find her obnoxious instead. That discrepancy transformed a character you'd ordinarily dislike within reason into your least favorite who you enjoy ranting about.

LeonhartFour posted...

Actually, it's not quite as daunting as Martin made it sound.

Yeah I was trying to hype it up, but considering his 2nd best finish in the newstats era is 63rd place (and his 3rd place and everything thereafter is boot territory), it's still something. Time to spin up the "Sorceress and her Knight" propaganda!

th3l3fty posted...

95. Terra Branford

Woah

Yeah, I'm not saying it's a given, but one dedicated person who consistently shows up can get him there.

The comedy option is either he goes out next round or he ties for last though.

Wait so what does he need to tie?

That both doesn't seem so bad and seems completely out of reach.

Good luck to him!

95. Terra Branford (Lopen Stats - 0.1/10 - #100)

"What is love, I am boring?" - Terra Branford (paraphrased)

So here's this character. She has a good look. I like her human look and esper look both. Her backstory is... well, it's good lore at least. I find the Maduin and whatsherface flashback really tiresome but I like the general lore.

So you know, you're like "ok so she looks good and her story lore contribution is neat why is she 0.1/10"

Well let me tell you.

Terra starts off as a typical amnesiac and then like, ok, Locke helps her out. They take her to the returner base. Here's what happens.

"yo we are out to get this evil empire you wanna join?"
"I don't know"

So things happen, she flips out and becomes a pink rage monster and flies away cause clown guy enslaved her and Tritoch (now known as Vaglilanqrhtta) gives her PTSD or something when he glows at her. She flies to Ramuh, sleeps. Comes back. No input on anything. Kinda just goes along with what Edgar and Locke are driving forward. There's some stuff with General Leo.

"What is love?" - yeah, that's it. I guess this could be ok, but I certainly am not feeling anything from her-- if there was a sense of despair or whatever, I can't say they conveyed it well.

The world is then torn asunder. What does she, all powerful flying pink rage monster do? Go duck and cover with some kids and hope things fix themselves. And then they don't and a giant pig man beats her down until Celes and Sabin save the day. (Of course, you need to go there twice to get her to do anything because why would she actually put effort into making a difference easier to mope)

Ok you all know the plot of FFVI-- why am I going into this. It's because understanding how little she actually does is important for expressing my disdain for the character.

She's a bland dry meat. Her entire personality is being meek, moping, and indecisive while allowing big strong men Edgar Locke and Celes make all her decisions for her. Terra is what we should all strive not to be. She just hopes things will fix themselves while she squanders her potential.

I would be extremely disappointed about this on a normal character. On a character who is easily the most powerful character in the cast? It's completely infuriating. Is it the ensemble cast to blame? I don't think so, most of the cast seems to take some initiative about stuff-- they have their moments, they seize the day when it comes time to. I think the only character in the game who does less on their own initiative is Umaro. And unsurprisingly I have said swapping Umaro's role with Terra's improves the game. Snow yeti musing about love and MOG commanding a pink rage monster half-esper to do his bidding? Yes. Give me that game.

(You see what I did with that formatting there.

If people are starved for content I can do writeups for every elimination. Just to show how thankful I am for getting rid of that Terra fiend.)

I'd say Gogo does less too (unless you think he's Banon or something). Dude just chills in a sandworm's stomach until you find him and ask him to help you.

Gogo makes a conscious effort to join these random people who show up in the belly of the sand worm. That's worth something.

Also has an in character reason to do nothing-- being a devout practitioner of the arts of mimicry he cannot act until he finds people to imitate.

For these two reasons I give him more of a pass. (Also not being super powerful dude with any beef with Kefka/the empire)

Terra is my favorite character in VI. She learns how to love (and I was glad it wasn't romantic love because VI proved with Locke/Celes it didn't know how to write that). The stuff with the orphans was the best part about her, that was her big moment where she took initiative! She found people who made her feel love and wanted to protect them. Pre-character development Terra wouldn't have cared about those kids at all.

We actually have no indication she would or would not have cared about the kids because she basically had no personality to speak of.

I mean maybe the ensemble cast is to blame for the lack of visible progression of her love (the development we're shown is her asking about love and then cut ahead to children calling her mama) for the children but yeah.

Also btw I disagree Locke/Celes is meant to be romantic at all.

Lopen posted...

Also btw I disagree Locke/Celes is meant to be romantic at all.

I mean it definitely isn't a good romance, but if you don't think it was meant to be a romance then lol

I agree Locke/Celes is meant to be a romance, but I kind of like that it's not overt and they aren't actively a couple by the end of the game. I think they're both not totally ready to love again, so it's good the game doesn't force it.

Robazoid posted...

I mean it definitely isn't a good romance, but if you don't think it was meant to be a romance then lol

Locke was protecting Celes out of guilt or whatever because he didn't want to let another girl he was with (not romantically, but he released her from chains so he takes some responsibility for helping her be safe) be a victim.

Locke always loved Rachel. His final arc is literally trying to raise Rachel from the dead-- something he wouldnt do if Celes was a consideration. His only romantic indication towards Celes is when he uses her as a Rachel proxy.
Celes never showed any romantic interest whatsoever towards Locke.

It's not a romance. It's a weird character dynamic that could be construed as romance but I get more of a Doctor Who x Companion vibe out of it.

Lopen posted...

Locke was protecting Celes out of guilt or whatever because he didn't want to let another girl he was with (not romantically, but he released her from chains so he takes some responsibility for helping her be safe) be a victim.

Locke always loved Rachel. His final arc is literally trying to raise Rachel from the dead-- something he wouldnt do if Celes was a consideration. His only romantic indication towards Celes is when he uses her as a Rachel proxy.
Celes never showed any romantic interest whatsoever towards Locke.

Hard disagree with every part of this post