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Trumble 05/29/24 7:08:13 PM #50:	EPR-radar posted... Making it easier for Trump to win is the only possible result of all their bellyaching, so yes, the conclusion follows. Are you actually suggesting that completely factual matters should not be discussed if they're unfavorable to a particular candidate? Like... That's honestly the sort of shit I'd have expected from the Trump camp. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980614135] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>Making it easier for Trump to win is the only possible result of all their bellyaching, so yes, the conclusion follows.</quote>Are you actually suggesting that completely factual matters should not be discussed if they're unfavorable to a particular candidate?Like... That's honestly the sort of shit I'd have expected from the Trump camp. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 7:13:45 PM #51:	Trumble posted... Are you actually suggesting that completely factual matters should not be discussed if they're unfavorable to a particular candidate? Like... That's honestly the sort of shit I'd have expected from the Trump camp. LOL at the idea that all you and your are fellow travelers are doing is "discussing completely factual matters". Here's the completely factual discussion -- Biden's I/P policies at the moment suck giant donkey dick, and he would do the US, Israel, Palestinians and the entire world a big favor if he gets get his head out of his ass on this issue. Period. Full stop. No need for countless 500-post topics weeping and wailing about how this is completely unacceptable, with a strong subtext that everyone should just stay home and let Republicans win. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980614185] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Are you actually suggesting that completely factual matters should not be discussed if they're unfavorable to a particular candidate?Like... That's honestly the sort of shit I'd have expected from the Trump camp.</quote>LOL at the idea that all you and your are fellow travelers are doing is "discussing completely factual matters".Here's the completely factual discussion -- Biden's I/P policies at the moment suck giant donkey dick, and he would do the US, Israel, Palestinians and the entire world a big favor if he gets get his head out of his ass on this issue.Period. Full stop. No need for countless 500-post topics weeping and wailing about how this is completely unacceptable, with a strong subtext that everyone should just stay home and let Republicans win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akuryu 05/29/24 7:14:14 PM #52:	Irony posted... Thankfully 90% of the stuff he says is nonsense he can't do In a 2nd term, I wouldn't count on there being anything he "can't do." <cite>Akuryu posted [p:980614194] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite><quote>Thankfully 90% of the stuff he says is nonsense he can't do</quote>In a 2nd term, I wouldn't count on there being anything he "can't do."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pazzy 05/29/24 7:14:55 PM #53:	How many times is this topic going to appear? <cite>pazzy posted [p:980614203] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>How many times is this topic going to appear?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 7:15:32 PM #54:	Raiden2909 posted... Eeeh, to be fair i am Canadian, But i stand by the fact that i have every right to talk about American politics since its shit constantly screws up my own countries Not helped with the current Conservative party leader being a Trump wanna be fanboy who was only put in his position to help appeal to the FAR right "clueless" was in there to limit my complaint to people that don't know anything about the subject. Informed views are a different story. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980614207] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Raiden2909 posted... </cite><quote>Eeeh, to be fair i am Canadian, But i stand by the fact that i have every right to talk about American politics since its shit constantly screws up my own countries Not helped with the current Conservative party leader being a Trump wanna be fanboy who was only put in his position to help appeal to the FAR right</quote>"clueless" was in there to limit my complaint to people that don't know anything about the subject. Informed views are a different story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 7:16:08 PM #55:	pazzy posted... How many times is this topic going to appear? As long as the rubles keep getting deposited. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980614214] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>pazzy posted... </cite><quote>How many times is this topic going to appear?</quote>As long as the rubles keep getting deposited. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/29/24 7:36:22 PM #56:	Trumble posted... Are you actually suggesting that completely factual matters should not be discussed if they're unfavorable to a particular candidate? Like... That's honestly the sort of shit I'd have expected from the Trump camp. how often do you think conservatives in the US take into account all the factual matters about Trump that would harm his campaign? --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:980614440] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Are you actually suggesting that completely factual matters should not be discussed if they're unfavorable to a particular candidate?Like... That's honestly the sort of shit I'd have expected from the Trump camp.</quote>how often do you think conservatives in the US take into account all the factual matters about Trump that would harm his campaign? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 7:37:44 PM #57:	thronedfire2 posted... how often do you think conservatives in the US take into account all the factual matters about Trump that would harm his campaign? Exactly. They ignore, downplay, or even treat it as a good thing. Hence me saying why this is the sort of shit I'd expect from the Trump camp. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980614457] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>how often do you think conservatives in the US take into account all the factual matters about Trump that would harm his campaign?</quote>Exactly. They ignore, downplay, or even treat it as a good thing.Hence me saying why this is the sort of shit I'd expect from the Trump camp. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
havean776 05/29/24 7:40:43 PM #58:	Trumble posted... Exactly. They ignore, downplay, or even treat it as a good thing. Hence me saying why this is the sort of shit I'd expect from the Trump camp. Why are you acting like voting for the best bet against Trump is wrong? Voting to protect my friends is a good thing no matter how you try to spin it. --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca <cite>havean776 posted [p:980614501] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Exactly. They ignore, downplay, or even treat it as a good thing.Hence me saying why this is the sort of shit I'd expect from the Trump camp.</quote>Why are you acting like voting for the best bet against Trump is wrong?Voting to protect my friends is a good thing no matter how you try to spin it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 7:43:26 PM #59:	havean776 posted... Why are you acting like voting for the best bet against Trump is wrong? Voting to protect my friends is a good thing no matter how you try to spin it. See post #38. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980614531] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>havean776 posted... </cite><quote>Why are you acting like voting for the best bet against Trump is wrong?Voting to protect my friends is a good thing no matter how you try to spin it.</quote>See post #38. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 05/29/24 7:47:53 PM #60:	Trump is just as much a supporter of Israel at the least so both candidates pretty much cancel each other out in this regard. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:980614580] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trump is just as much a supporter of Israel at the least so both candidates pretty much cancel each other out in this regard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
havean776 05/29/24 7:49:13 PM #61:	Trumble posted... See post #38. I see no one deflecting except for you and your constant B-B-BUT BIDEN!!! As if him being bad magicly makes it so hes not the best option for America to stop Trump. He is thats the reality. You can clutch your pearls and scream that no one should vote and do everything you can to ensure a Trump victory. Safe in your privlaged postion where you never have to suffer from Trump. My friends do not have that privilige, his victory is a very real threat to them. This isn't just pointless morality game to them. Their lifes are in a very real danger. I will not be silenced by you. I will shout for people to vote to stop Trump. I will remind them how evil and awfull he is in every topic. No matter how much that angers you. --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca <cite>havean776 posted [p:980614592] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>See post #38.</quote>I see no one deflecting except for you and your constant B-B-BUT BIDEN!!!As if him being bad magicly makes it so hes not the best option for America to stop Trump. He is thats the reality.You can clutch your pearls and scream that no one should vote and do everything you can to ensure a Trump victory.Safe in your privlaged postion where you never have to suffer from Trump.My friends do not have that privilige, his victory is a very real threat to them. This isn't just pointless morality game to them. Their lifes are in a very real danger.I will not be silenced by you. I will shout for people to vote to stop Trump. I will remind them how evil and awfull he is in every topic. No matter how much that angers you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 7:50:48 PM #62:	havean776 posted... I see no one deflecting except for you and your constant B-B-BUT BIDEN!!! The very first reply in this topic is a deflection to Trump. You clearly did not look at all at this topic, nor any others on this subject, if you think no one is deflecting. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980614613] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>havean776 posted... </cite><quote>I see no one deflecting except for you and your constant B-B-BUT BIDEN!!!</quote>The very first reply in this topic is a deflection to Trump. You clearly did not look at all at this topic, nor any others on this subject, if you think no one is deflecting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 05/29/24 7:52:18 PM #63:	archizzy posted... Its barely going to be a blip on the radar for him in reality. Wont matter. Dude has the election in the bag unless he dies. --- Everyone knows no grass grows on a vampire's grave https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:980614624] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>archizzy posted... </cite><quote>Its barely going to be a blip on the radar for him in reality. Wont matter. Dude has the election in the bag unless he dies.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 05/29/24 7:53:50 PM #64:	Trumble posted... The very first reply in this topic is a deflection to Trump. You clearly did not look at all at this topic, nor any others on this subject, if you think no one is deflecting. Deflecting to Trump aren't really deflections because there is literally nothing more important than stopping Trump. It doesn't matter what the subject is. If there was a way to stop Trump (legally) without voting for Biden, please let all of us know because America would love to get in on that shit. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:980614644] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>The very first reply in this topic is a deflection to Trump. You clearly did not look at all at this topic, nor any others on this subject, if you think no one is deflecting.</quote>Deflecting to Trump aren't really deflections because there is literally nothing more important than stopping Trump. It doesn't matter what the subject is. If there was a way to stop Trump (legally) without voting for Biden, please let all of us know because America would love to get in on that shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
havean776 05/29/24 7:54:00 PM #65:	Trumble posted... The very first reply in this topic is a deflection to Trump. You clearly did not look at all at this topic, nor any others on this subject, if you think no one is deflecting. The post you refer to is a fact. Do you not agree that facts are important? That people should be aware of what the only two choices are about? Do you believe that not voting for Biden helps Trump? Why should the user not be allowed to post facts? --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca <cite>havean776 posted [p:980614649] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>The very first reply in this topic is a deflection to Trump. You clearly did not look at all at this topic, nor any others on this subject, if you think no one is deflecting.</quote>The post you refer to is a fact. Do you not agree that facts are important? That people should be aware of what the only two choices are about? Do you believe that not voting for Biden helps Trump?Why should the user not be allowed to post facts? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Diceheist 05/29/24 7:55:49 PM #66:	People aren't understanding that going "but Trump is worse in this issue" is irrelevant since Trump doesn't need pro-Palestinian voters to win. --- Day I lost CE access: TBA <cite>Diceheist posted [p:980614674] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>People aren't understanding that going "but Trump is worse in this issue" is irrelevant since Trump doesn't need pro-Palestinian voters to win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 7:58:38 PM #67:	Diceheist posted... People aren't understanding that going "but Trump is worse in this issue" is irrelevant since Trump doesn't need pro-Palestinian voters to win. Pro-Palestinian voters in the US need to understand that doing dipshit things with their votes in 2024 won't help their cause in the slightest. In fact, they should be the ones most committed to ending the GOP as a national party in the US, because a Likud/GOP final solution is the obvious mortal threat to Palestinians. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980614709] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Diceheist posted... </cite><quote>People aren't understanding that going "but Trump is worse in this issue" is irrelevant since Trump doesn't need pro-Palestinian voters to win.</quote>Pro-Palestinian voters in the US need to understand that doing dipshit things with their votes in 2024 won't help their cause in the slightest.In fact, they should be the ones most committed to ending the GOP as a national party in the US, because a Likud/GOP final solution is the obvious mortal threat to Palestinians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 05/29/24 7:59:10 PM #68:	Diceheist posted... People aren't understanding that going "but Trump is worse in this issue" is irrelevant since Trump doesn't need pro-Palestinian voters to win. Shockingly, Palestine one issue voters who think "voting for a genocide enabler is unconsciable" (crazy thought amirite) apply that thought to Biden and Trump equally. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:980614713] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Diceheist posted... </cite><quote>People aren't understanding that going "but Trump is worse in this issue" is irrelevant since Trump doesn't need pro-Palestinian voters to win.</quote>Shockingly, Palestine one issue voters who think "voting for a genocide enabler is unconsciable" (crazy thought amirite) apply that thought to Biden and Trump equally. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 8:03:34 PM #69:	havean776 posted... The post you refer to is a fact. Do you not agree that facts are important? That people should be aware of what the only two choices are about? Do you believe that not voting for Biden helps Trump? Why should the user not be allowed to post facts? I'm not disputing it's factual. I'm disputing that it's a valid defence of Biden rather than a deflection. If I murder someone and say "this other guy murdered two people" and he really did, I'm not suddenly innocent just because I've pointed out, factually, that someone else is worse. This would also hold true even if the other guy murdered far more than two people, for that matter. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980614767] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>havean776 posted... </cite><quote>The post you refer to is a fact. Do you not agree that facts are important? That people should be aware of what the only two choices are about? Do you believe that not voting for Biden helps Trump?Why should the user not be allowed to post facts?</quote>I'm not disputing it's factual. I'm disputing that it's a valid defence of Biden rather than a deflection.If I murder someone and say "this other guy murdered two people" and he really did, I'm not suddenly innocent just because I've pointed out, factually, that someone else is worse. This would also hold true even if the other guy murdered far more than two people, for that matter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 05/29/24 8:05:28 PM #70:	EPR-radar posted... Screaming that both options are unacceptable over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again isn't much of a strategy. Its only possible effect is to depress turnout by non-Republicans, thereby making it easier for Trump to win. It's the actions and words of a child tbh. Someone that is so disingenuous that theoretical discussions somehow are more valid than the reality of the situation. These are the people that will have perplexed looks on their faces as they sit on their self-made pedestals when the world burns. It is and always will be about elevating themselves above those that will have to live in the realty of horror and terror that will happen if Trump is re-elected. They don't actually give one shit about the people that will have their lives put in jeopardy and will wade in suffering and misery. He just wants to be right on a gaming message board. He's simply playing a game of self-affirmation here. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:980614798] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>Screaming that both options are unacceptable over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again isn't much of a strategy.Its only possible effect is to depress turnout by non-Republicans, thereby making it easier for Trump to win.</quote>It's the actions and words of a child tbh. Someone that is so disingenuous that theoretical discussions somehow are more valid than the reality of the situation.These are the people that will have perplexed looks on their faces as they sit on their self-made pedestals when the world burns.It is and always will be about elevating themselves above those that will have to live in the realty of horror and terror that will happen if Trump is re-elected. They don't actually give one shit about the people that will have their lives put in jeopardy and will wade in suffering and misery.He just wants to be right on a gaming message board. He's simply playing a game of self-affirmation here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 05/29/24 8:06:37 PM #71:	archizzy posted... Its barely going to be a blip on the radar for him in reality. Wont matter. Dude has the election in the bag unless he dies. I can't fathom this level of confidence given how uniquely bad Biden is polling while downballot Ds outpace him by like 5-6% --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:980614814] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>archizzy posted... </cite><quote>Its barely going to be a blip on the radar for him in reality. Wont matter. Dude has the election in the bag unless he dies.</quote>I can't fathom this level of confidence given how uniquely bad Biden is polling while downballot Ds outpace him by like 5-6% </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 05/29/24 8:07:48 PM #72:	Bat178 posted... Trump has outright said he'll deport pro-Palestinian protesters if he wins. He legally can't do that unless the protestor isn't a citizen. Where would he even send a natural born American citizen? <cite>Zikten posted [p:980614836] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Bat178 posted... </cite><quote>Trump has outright said he'll deport pro-Palestinian protesters if he wins.</quote>He legally can't do that unless the protestor isn't a citizen. Where would he even send a natural born American citizen?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 05/29/24 8:08:14 PM #73:	only chuds would stay home and not vote for Biden over the Palestine issue. --- "The age of men is over, the time of women have come" - God <cite>David1988 posted [p:980614842] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>only chuds would stay home and not vote for Biden over the Palestine issue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighSeraph 05/29/24 8:08:25 PM #74:	Zikten posted... He legally can't do that We know how the law has stopped Trump in the past afterall --- She/Her She rings like a bell through the night <cite>HighSeraph posted [p:980614848] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>He legally can't do that</quote>We know how the law has stopped Trump in the past afterall </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 05/29/24 8:08:35 PM #75:	Irony posted... Thankfully 90% of the stuff he says is nonsense he can't do trump will find a way on day 1 to make it happen. lets hope the bad future doesn't happen. --- currently playing: elder scrolls skyrim (ps5) RIP Sophie the dog: February 2011-april 2024. we'll miss you alot. <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:980614851] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted...</cite><quote>Thankfully 90% of the stuff he says is nonsense he can't do</quote>trump will find a way on day 1 to make it happen. lets hope the bad future doesn't happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
havean776 05/29/24 8:08:42 PM #76:	Trumble posted... I'm not disputing it's factual. I'm disputing that it's a valid defence of Biden rather than a deflection. If I murder someone and say "this other guy murdered two people" and he really did, I'm not suddenly innocent just because I've pointed out, factually, that someone else is worse. One of them is promising to kill my friends. The other isn't. You come in screaming "S-same thing both sides!" You may see my friends as acceptable casualties in your moral outrage. I do not. --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca <cite>havean776 posted [p:980614852] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>I'm not disputing it's factual. I'm disputing that it's a valid defence of Biden rather than a deflection.If I murder someone and say "this other guy murdered two people" and he really did, I'm not suddenly innocent just because I've pointed out, factually, that someone else is worse.</quote>One of them is promising to kill my friends. The other isn't.You come in screaming "S-same thing both sides!"You may see my friends as acceptable casualties in your moral outrage. I do not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/29/24 8:08:45 PM #77:	Trumble posted... See post #38. I've literally never seen anyone on CE defending Biden's handling of the Palestine crisis we just don't have our heads up our asses, so we know Trump would be a million times worse, and the only thing talking about how bad Biden might be does is make it easier for Trump to win. and then Trump will be even worse for Palestine. if Trump had been president on October 7th, Gaza would have been 100% occupied by October 17th. And he would end aid to Ukraine and let Russia win. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:980614854] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>See post #38.</quote>I've literally never seen anyone on CE defending Biden's handling of the Palestine crisiswe just don't have our heads up our asses, so we know Trump would be a million times worse, and the only thing talking about how bad Biden might be does is make it easier for Trump to win. and then Trump will be even worse for Palestine.if Trump had been president on October 7th, Gaza would have been 100% occupied by October 17th. And he would end aid to Ukraine and let Russia win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 8:09:48 PM #78:	Zikten posted... He legally can't do that unless the protestor isn't a citizen. Where would he even send a natural born American citizen? It doesn't matter. Inconvenient people like that will just die in GOP custody, to the cheers of MAGAts. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980614873] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>He legally can't do that unless the protestor isn't a citizen. Where would he even send a natural born American citizen?</quote>It doesn't matter. Inconvenient people like that will just die in GOP custody, to the cheers of MAGAts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 05/29/24 8:10:02 PM #79:	This whole argument goes away when you realize how much worse Trump would be for the situation. Regardless of which side you're on, there comes a time to be realistic: even if you're the most avid anti-Israel activist, you can't seriously believe the situation will be improved by voting for somebody other than Biden. You're either voting for a non-starter candidate who has a 0% chance of winning anything, or you're voting for Trump, which is significantly worse. And if you don't vote at all, that's still a -1 for Biden. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:980614876] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>This whole argument goes away when you realize how much worse Trump would be for the situation. Regardless of which side you're on, there comes a time to be realistic: even if you're the most avid anti-Israel activist, you can't seriously believe the situation will be improved by voting for somebody other than Biden. You're either voting for a non-starter candidate who has a 0% chance of winning anything, or you're voting for Trump, which is significantly worse. And if you don't vote at all, that's still a -1 for Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi33 05/29/24 9:29:35 PM #81:	Gobstoppers12 posted... This whole argument goes away when you realize how much worse Trump would be for the situation No it does not. Your entire argrument is "see reason, logic!" But you severely overestimating how much reasoning and logic is the winning factor behind peoples' vote. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner <cite>luigi33 posted [p:980616151] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>This whole argument goes away when you realize how much worse Trump would be for the situation</quote>No it does not.Your entire argrument is "see reason, logic!"But you severely overestimating how much reasoning and logic is the winning factor behind peoples' vote. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 05/29/24 9:59:55 PM #82:	havean776 posted... One of them is promising to kill my friends. The other isn't. You come in screaming "S-same thing both sides!" You may see my friends as acceptable casualties in your moral outrage. I do not. But you see, people have really big bleeding hearts for Gaza. That's why they find it unconscionable to vote for Biden. The GOP being a threat to many other people AND even worse for Gazans? They can handle that. They don't care about other issues. Their big heart and empathy means that if anyone is suffering, then everyone should suffer, AND harder. We can all die in solidarity with the Gazans or something. At least the non-voters can go out with their "morals". --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:980616597] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>havean776 posted... </cite><quote>One of them is promising to kill my friends. The other isn't.You come in screaming "S-same thing both sides!"You may see my friends as acceptable casualties in your moral outrage. I do not.</quote>But you see, people have really big bleeding hearts for Gaza. That's why they find it unconscionable to vote for Biden. The GOP being a threat to many other people AND even worse for Gazans? They can handle that. They don't care about other issues. Their big heart and empathy means that if anyone is suffering, then everyone should suffer, AND harder. We can all die in solidarity with the Gazans or something. At least the non-voters can go out with their "morals". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 05/29/24 10:16:33 PM #83:	IceCreamOnStero posted... Shockingly, Palestine one issue voters who think "voting for a genocide enabler is unconsciable" (crazy thought amirite) apply that thought to Biden and Trump equally. Not voting enables more genocide. Shit, the other party wants to not just have a foreign ally that commits genocide, but to commit genocide of their own in their own country. Single-issue voters can apparently handle any amount of innocent blood as long as they don't vote and feel personally icky about it. The only issue they really seem to care about is keeping their conscience clean. If Palestinians are screwed either way, they won't vote. If lots of other people are screwed one way, they still won't vote. They're actually zero issue voters. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:980616842] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>Shockingly, Palestine one issue voters who think "voting for a genocide enabler is unconsciable" (crazy thought amirite) apply that thought to Biden and Trump equally.</quote>Not voting enables more genocide. Shit, the other party wants to not just have a foreign ally that commits genocide, but to commit genocide of their own in their own country.Single-issue voters can apparently handle any amount of innocent blood as long as they don't vote and feel personally icky about it.The only issue they really seem to care about is keeping their conscience clean. If Palestinians are screwed either way, they won't vote. If lots of other people are screwed one way, they still won't vote. They're actually zero issue voters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/29/24 10:20:23 PM #84:	luigi33 posted... silencing of these protestors ???? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980616877] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>luigi33 posted... </cite><quote>silencing of these protestors</quote>????</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ironman2009 05/29/24 10:20:35 PM #85:	so i could be completely wrong, but i kinda feel like the random person does not know/give a fuck about what is happening in gaza right now --- THRILLHO <cite>ironman2009 posted [p:980616880] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>so i could be completely wrong, but i kinda feel like the random person does not know/give a fuck about what is happening in gaza right now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/29/24 10:21:52 PM #86:	But guys. What about Both Sides? <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:980616894] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>But guys. What about Both Sides? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LonelyStoner 05/29/24 10:23:16 PM #87:	Bat178 posted... Trump has outright said he'll deport pro-Palestinian protesters if he wins. He doesnt have that kind of power, even as president. Im not saying this to defend him or to slight Biden, but Trump literally cannot deport peaceful protesters as president. --- He's all alone through the day and night. <cite>LonelyStoner posted [p:980616909] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Bat178 posted... </cite><quote>Trump has outright said he'll deport pro-Palestinian protesters if he wins.</quote>He doesnt have that kind of power, even as president. Im not saying this to defend him or to slight Biden, but Trump literally cannot deport peaceful protesters as president. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 05/29/24 10:24:31 PM #88:	LonelyStoner posted... He doesnt have that kind of power, even as president. Im not saying this to defend him or to slight Biden, but Trump literally cannot deport peaceful protesters as president. Who would stop him? --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:980616929] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>LonelyStoner posted... </cite><quote>He doesnt have that kind of power, even as president. Im not saying this to defend him or to slight Biden, but Trump literally cannot deport peaceful protesters as president.</quote>Who would stop him? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/29/24 10:24:49 PM #89:	LonelyStoner posted... He doesnt have that kind of power, even as president. Im not saying this to defend him or to slight Biden, but Trump literally cannot deport peaceful protesters as president. He does. And if your argument is "oh he can't do the one thing he says he will do the most therefore we can't fault him for that" Lmao <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980616933] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>LonelyStoner posted... </cite><quote>He doesnt have that kind of power, even as president. Im not saying this to defend him or to slight Biden, but Trump literally cannot deport peaceful protesters as president.</quote>He does.And if your argument is "oh he can't do the one thing he says he will do the most therefore we can't fault him for that"Lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/29/24 10:25:53 PM #90:	ellis123 posted... Who would stop him? Surely all the people who criticize Biden but want us to forget Trump is worse will stop him. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980616946] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>Who would stop him?</quote>Surely all the people who criticize Biden but want us to forget Trump is worse will stop him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LonelyStoner 05/29/24 10:27:53 PM #91:	WingsOfGood posted... He does. And if your argument is "oh he can't do the one thing he says he will do the most therefore we can't fault him for that" Lmao Did I say We cant fault him for that.? Hes a dimwitted troll doll who makes empty threats and promises. Like his big bad wall that he said he would make Mexico pay for. --- He's all alone through the day and night. <cite>LonelyStoner posted [p:980616975] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>He does.And if your argument is "oh he can't do the one thing he says he will do the most therefore we can't fault him for that"Lmao</quote>Did I say We cant fault him for that.?Hes a dimwitted troll doll who makes empty threats and promises. Like his big bad wall that he said he would make Mexico pay for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LonelyStoner 05/29/24 10:28:43 PM #92:	WingsOfGood posted... Surely all the people who criticize Biden but want us to forget Trump is worse will stop him. Come back down. A criticism of Biden isnt an endorsement for Trump. --- He's all alone through the day and night. <cite>LonelyStoner posted [p:980616982] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>Surely all the people who criticize Biden but want us to forget Trump is worse will stop him.</quote>Come back down. A criticism of Biden isnt an endorsement for Trump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/29/24 10:29:50 PM #93:	LonelyStoner posted... Did I say We cant fault him for that.? Hes a dimwitted troll doll who makes empty threats and promises. Like his big bad wall that he said he would make Mexico pay for. Why pretend he can't do it then? The only value of that claim seems to be to not fault him for it. But he will get away with it if he is elected. Don't be fooled on that. If that scares you vote Biden. He may even call you to help him deport people. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980616995] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>LonelyStoner posted... </cite><quote>Did I say We cant fault him for that.?Hes a dimwitted troll doll who makes empty threats and promises. Like his big bad wall that he said he would make Mexico pay for.</quote>Why pretend he can't do it then? The only value of that claim seems to be to not fault him for it.But he will get away with it if he is elected. Don't be fooled on that. If that scares you vote Biden.He may even call you to help him deport people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 05/29/24 10:30:50 PM #94:	Why are people assuming even more genocide if biden loses? He's already supporting israel to the maximum. Just because he says he's frustrated or that he has a red line, doesn't mean he actually does anything to stop or slow them down, as we've all seen. trump wouldn't pretend to care, but pretending to care doesn't matter if there is no limit to support of genocide regardless. This is that dumb "decorum" shit that democrats place way too much importance on. Also, the "this is a small issue, no one actually cares, and biden has this election guaranteed unless he dies" talking point reeks of 2016 hillary. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:980616998] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Why are people assuming even more genocide if biden loses? He's already supporting israel to the maximum. Just because he says he's frustrated or that he has a red line, doesn't mean he actually does anything to stop or slow them down, as we've all seen. trump wouldn't pretend to care, but pretending to care doesn't matter if there is no limit to support of genocide regardless. This is that dumb "decorum" shit that democrats place way too much importance on. Also, the "this is a small issue, no one actually cares, and biden has this election guaranteed unless he dies" talking point reeks of 2016 hillary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/29/24 10:31:52 PM #95:	LonelyStoner posted... Come back down. A criticism of Biden isnt an endorsement for Trump. The issue is you are criticizing Biden for something Trump is far worse about. Trump said he will deport protestors, support Israel more and called Gaza the worst terrorist haven on the planet. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980617009] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>LonelyStoner posted... </cite><quote>Come back down. A criticism of Biden isnt an endorsement for Trump.</quote>The issue is you are criticizing Biden for something Trump is far worse about.Trump said he will deport protestors, support Israel more and called Gaza the worst terrorist haven on the planet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 05/29/24 10:32:08 PM #96:	He needs to do SOMETHING to stop this genocide, but there seems to be no red line. --- Just call me Discount Dan. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:980617013] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>He needs to do SOMETHING to stop this genocide, but there seems to be no red line. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/29/24 10:32:25 PM #97:	1337toothbrush posted... Why are people assuming even more genocide if biden loses? Because Trump literally said himself he would do worse. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980617015] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>Why are people assuming even more genocide if biden loses?</quote>Because Trump literally said himself he would do worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 10:33:07 PM #98:	WingsOfGood posted... The issue is you are criticizing Biden for something Trump is far worse about. Trump said he will deport protestors, support Israel more and called Gaza the worst terrorist haven on the planet. If someone is specifically comparing the two and they criticize Biden while giving Trump a free pass, you have a point. If they are only talking about one of those people, what the other one would do / has done is not a defence. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980617020] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>The issue is you are criticizing Biden for something Trump is far worse about.Trump said he will deport protestors, support Israel more and called Gaza the worst terrorist haven on the planet.</quote>If someone is specifically comparing the two and they criticize Biden while giving Trump a free pass, you have a point.If they are only talking about one of those people, what the other one would do / has done is not a defence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/29/24 10:33:17 PM #99:	1337toothbrush posted... Why are people assuming even more genocide if biden loses? He's already supporting israel to the maximum. Just because he says he's frustrated or that he has a red line, doesn't mean he actually does anything to stop or slow them down, as we've all seen. trump wouldn't pretend to care, but pretending to care doesn't matter if there is no limit to support of genocide regardless. This is that dumb "decorum" shit that democrats place way too much importance on. Also, the "this is a small issue, no one actually cares, and biden has this election guaranteed unless he dies" talking point reeks of 2016 hillary. Because more genocide is what Trump wants and that hasnt caused there to be any fewer Republican voters. All we see here are chuds saying not to vote for Biden - we know why they say this <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:980617024] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>Why are people assuming even more genocide if biden loses? He's already supporting israel to the maximum. Just because he says he's frustrated or that he has a red line, doesn't mean he actually does anything to stop or slow them down, as we've all seen. trump wouldn't pretend to care, but pretending to care doesn't matter if there is no limit to support of genocide regardless. This is that dumb "decorum" shit that democrats place way too much importance on. Also, the "this is a small issue, no one actually cares, and biden has this election guaranteed unless he dies" talking point reeks of 2016 hillary.</quote>Because more genocide is what Trump wants and that hasnt caused there to be any fewer Republican voters. All we see here are chuds saying not to vote for Biden - we know why they say this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/29/24 10:35:13 PM #100:	Trumble posted... If someone is specifically comparing the two and they criticize Biden while giving Trump a free pass, you have a point. If they are only talking about one of those people, what the other one would do / has done is not a defence. What does "is bad for dems" mean? They will lose the election? And who is involved in this election? You are not just talking about Biden alone. You are comparing to Trump because you are talking about the election and it being bad for dems. How is it bad for the dems if Trump promises to do worse is the big elephant in the room. Oh perhaps because people want to only look at Biden.. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980617039] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>If someone is specifically comparing the two and they criticize Biden while giving Trump a free pass, you have a point.If they are only talking about one of those people, what the other one would do / has done is not a defence.</quote>What does "is bad for dems" mean?They will lose the election?And who is involved in this election?You are not just talking about Biden alone. You are comparing to Trump because you are talking about the election and it being bad for dems.How is it bad for the dems if Trump promises to do worse is the big elephant in the room.Oh perhaps because people want to only look at Biden..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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