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luigi33 05/29/24 6:21:24 PM #1:	Biden is going to be harassed throughout his entire campaign by pro Palestinian protesters. The usual democratic condescending attitude and silencing of these protestors is going to look so astronomically bad. Israel already plans to draw this out til the end of the election. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner <cite>luigi33 posted [p:980613579] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Biden is going to be harassed throughout his entire campaign by pro Palestinian protesters. The usual democratic condescending attitude and silencing of these protestors is going to look so astronomically bad. Israel already plans to draw this out til the end of the election. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bat178 05/29/24 6:24:04 PM #2:	Trump has outright said he'll deport pro-Palestinian protesters if he wins. --- "2001 called, it wants it's message board signature back....." - aarrgus <cite>Bat178 posted [p:980613612] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trump has outright said he'll deport pro-Palestinian protesters if he wins. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archizzy 05/29/24 6:24:37 PM #3:	Its barely going to be a blip on the radar for him in reality. Wont matter. Dude has the election in the bag unless he dies. --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton <cite>archizzy posted [p:980613617] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Its barely going to be a blip on the radar for him in reality. Wont matter. Dude has the election in the bag unless he dies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TimeCrisis 05/29/24 6:25:07 PM #4:	Fair, next. --- TC IS #1! <cite>TimeCrisis posted [p:980613624] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 05/29/24 6:25:54 PM #5:	tbh it's an echo chamber, though a large-ish one. biden is much better off ignoring it, and you're simply fucking nuts if you think he will turn on israel or stop supporting them. that's something you have to accept if you want him to be president. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:980613632] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>tbh it's an echo chamber, though a large-ish one. biden is much better off ignoring it, and you're simply fucking nuts if you think he will turn on israel or stop supporting them. that's something you have to accept if you want him to be president. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 05/29/24 6:27:33 PM #6:	Trump wants to nuke Gaza. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:980613652] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trump wants to nuke Gaza. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 05/29/24 6:28:19 PM #7:	Bat178 posted... Trump has outright said he'll deport pro-Palestinian protesters if he wins. and he'll run behind those protesters against biden --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:980613662] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Bat178 posted... </cite><quote>Trump has outright said he'll deport pro-Palestinian protesters if he wins.</quote>and he'll run behind those protesters against biden </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 05/29/24 6:28:39 PM #8:	Bat178 posted... Trump has outright said he'll deport pro-Palestinian protesters if he wins. Thankfully 90% of the stuff he says is nonsense he can't do --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:980613666] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Bat178 posted... </cite><quote>Trump has outright said he'll deport pro-Palestinian protesters if he wins.</quote>Thankfully 90% of the stuff he says is nonsense he can't do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 05/29/24 6:28:53 PM #9:	Given the multiple 500 post topics on this subject, I think we're aware. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:980613667] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Given the multiple 500 post topics on this subject, I think we're aware. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 6:29:51 PM #10:	Southernfatman posted... Given the multiple 500 post topics on this subject, I think we're aware. Stir stirrers have shit to stir. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980613680] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite><quote>Given the multiple 500 post topics on this subject, I think we're aware.</quote>Stir stirrers have shit to stir. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shironinja 05/29/24 6:31:26 PM #11:	Pro-Pals are the minority and we live in a democracy, Neither Democrats nor Republicans care for them. --- Now or never. <cite>shironinja posted [p:980613692] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Pro-Pals are the minority and we live in a democracy,Neither Democrats nor Republicans care for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/29/24 6:31:43 PM #12:	Weird how in the minds of you people, Biden is far worse for Palestine than the Republican Party is, somehow <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:980613697] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Weird how in the minds of you people, Biden is far worse for Palestine than the Republican Party is, somehow </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 05/29/24 6:32:53 PM #13:	Biden has no red line, does he? --- Just call me Discount Dan. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:980613705] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Biden has no red line, does he? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi33 05/29/24 6:37:51 PM #14:	Rika_Furude posted... Weird how in the minds of you people, Biden is far worse for Palestine than the Republican Party is, somehow No one claims this. And arguing with logic like this hopefully works but I doubt it. Biden is the big red target of pro Palestine vitriol and so the whole pointing out Trump will be worse, while VERY true, I'm not sure if it will be enough to calm down people's hatred of Biden. Human beings are extremely present-centered beings so they are affected by what's happening now vs. a hypothetical future even if it's to their ultimate doom/detriment --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner <cite>luigi33 posted [p:980613766] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>Weird how in the minds of you people, Biden is far worse for Palestine than the Republican Party is, somehow</quote>No one claims this. And arguing with logic like this hopefully works but I doubt it. Biden is the big red target of pro Palestine vitriol and so the whole pointing out Trump will be worse, while VERY true, I'm not sure if it will be enough to calm down people's hatred of Biden. Human beings are extremely present-centered beings so they are affected by what's happening now vs. a hypothetical future even if it's to their ultimate doom/detriment </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 05/29/24 6:39:24 PM #15:	luigi33 posted... No one claims this. And arguing with logic like this hopefully works but I doubt it. Biden is the big red target of pro Palestine vitriol and so the whole pointing out Trump will be worse, while VERY true, I'm not sure if it will be enough to calm down people's hatred of Biden. Human beings are extremely present-centered beings so they are affected by what's happening now vs. a hypothetical future even if it's to their ultimate doom/detriment Stop using so many big words. None of us are aware or intelligent enough to understand them. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:980613780] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>luigi33 posted... </cite><quote>No one claims this. And arguing with logic like this hopefully works but I doubt it. Biden is the big red target of pro Palestine vitriol and so the whole pointing out Trump will be worse, while VERY true, I'm not sure if it will be enough to calm down people's hatred of Biden. Human beings are extremely present-centered beings so they are affected by what's happening now vs. a hypothetical future even if it's to their ultimate doom/detriment</quote>Stop using so many big words. None of us are aware or intelligent enough to understand them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 05/29/24 6:40:06 PM #16:	People forget that Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. https://www.vox.com/2018/5/14/17340798/jerusalem-embassy-israel-palestinians-us-trump Trump does whatever evangelicals want, and evangelicals view war in israel as what will bring about Armageddon. https://youtu.be/Fo77sTGpngQ?si=IRZRWOb1jaGNG06B&t=65 --- This signature is not political. <cite>ooger posted [p:980613795] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>People forget that Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. https://www.vox.com/2018/5/14/17340798/jerusalem-embassy-israel-palestinians-us-trumpTrump does whatever evangelicals want, and evangelicals view war in israel as what will bring about Armageddon. https://youtu.be/Fo77sTGpngQ?si=IRZRWOb1jaGNG06B&t=65 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 6:40:30 PM #17:	Cheater87 posted... Biden has no red line, does he? His red line is defined as "whatever would be slightly worse than Israel are currently doing"; automatically adjusted any time Israel do something. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980613800] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Cheater87 posted... </cite><quote>Biden has no red line, does he?</quote>His red line is defined as "whatever would be slightly worse than Israel are currently doing"; automatically adjusted any time Israel do something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 05/29/24 6:41:33 PM #18:	archizzy posted... Its barely going to be a blip on the radar for him in reality. Wont matter. Dude has the election in the bag unless he dies. Famous last words type shit right here --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:980613818] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>archizzy posted... </cite><quote>Its barely going to be a blip on the radar for him in reality. Wont matter. Dude has the election in the bag unless he dies.</quote>Famous last words type shit right here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 05/29/24 6:42:11 PM #19:	Trumble posted... His red line is defined as "whatever would be slightly worse than Israel are currently doing"; automatically adjusted any time Israel do something. ooger posted... People forget that Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. https://www.vox.com/2018/5/14/17340798/jerusalem-embassy-israel-palestinians-us-trump --- This signature is not political. <cite>ooger posted [p:980613828] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>His red line is defined as "whatever would be slightly worse than Israel are currently doing"; automatically adjusted any time Israel do something.</quote>ooger posted... </cite><quote>People forget that Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem.https://www.vox.com/2018/5/14/17340798/jerusalem-embassy-israel-palestinians-us-trump</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/29/24 6:42:29 PM #20:	luigi33 posted... No one claims this. And arguing with logic like this hopefully works but I doubt it. Biden is the big red target of pro Palestine vitriol and so the whole pointing out Trump will be worse, while VERY true, I'm not sure if it will be enough to calm down people's hatred of Biden. Human beings are extremely present-centered beings so they are affected by what's happening now vs. a hypothetical future even if it's to their ultimate doom/detriment Anyone who says to not vote for Biden actually is claiming that, through their actions. Their actions speak louder than their words <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:980613830] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>luigi33 posted... </cite><quote>No one claims this. And arguing with logic like this hopefully works but I doubt it. Biden is the big red target of pro Palestine vitriol and so the whole pointing out Trump will be worse, while VERY true, I'm not sure if it will be enough to calm down people's hatred of Biden. Human beings are extremely present-centered beings so they are affected by what's happening now vs. a hypothetical future even if it's to their ultimate doom/detriment</quote>Anyone who says to not vote for Biden actually is claiming that, through their actions. Their actions speak louder than their words </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 05/29/24 6:42:33 PM #21:	I really don't think there's that many fucking dumbasses that know the GOP are fascists, but hate Biden keeping the bipartisan pro-Israel status quo so much that they don't mind him losing. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:980613831] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>I really don't think there's that many fucking dumbasses that know the GOP are fascists, but hate Biden keeping the bipartisan pro-Israel status quo so much that they don't mind him losing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 05/29/24 6:44:13 PM #22:	It's really just tankies and accelerationists who want Democrats to lose and they're low in numbers. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:980613844] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>It's really just tankies and accelerationists who want Democrats to lose and they're low in numbers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 6:44:41 PM #23:	^ You heard it here folks. The proof that Biden does actually have red lines, is the fact that Trump moved an embassy several years before either the current flare-up or Biden's presidency. (Re post 19) --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980613850] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>^ You heard it here folks. The proof that Biden does actually have red lines, is the fact that Trump moved an embassy several years before either the current flare-up or Biden's presidency.(Re post 19) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 05/29/24 6:46:08 PM #24:	I think as we get closer to the election and the rubber actually starts to hit the road that the Israel stuff will take a backseat to people coming to grips with the increasingly real possibility that Trump won't go to jail and will absolutely be a threat to win again. People will suddenly care a lot less with atrocities in a faraway land when suddenly there's one staring them right in the face at home. --- Buffalo Bills <cite>theAteam posted [p:980613865] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>I think as we get closer to the election and the rubber actually starts to hit the road that the Israel stuff will take a backseat to people coming to grips with the increasingly real possibility that Trump won't go to jail and will absolutely be a threat to win again. People will suddenly care a lot less with atrocities in a faraway land when suddenly there's one staring them right in the face at home. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 05/29/24 6:46:27 PM #25:	Trumble posted... ^ You heard it here folks. The proof that Biden does actually have red lines, is the fact that Trump moved an embassy several years before either the current flare-up or Biden's presidency. (Re post 19) I guess Trumble doesn't understand that Trump would have made this situation way worse because he is beholden to evangelicals who are *excited and happy* for this war. --- This signature is not political. <cite>ooger posted [p:980613871] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>^ You heard it here folks. The proof that Biden does actually have red lines, is the fact that Trump moved an embassy several years before either the current flare-up or Biden's presidency.(Re post 19)</quote>I guess Trumble doesn't understand that Trump would have made this situation way worse because he is beholden to evangelicals who are excited and happy for this war. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 05/29/24 6:46:53 PM #26:	Southernfatman posted... It's really just tankies and accelerationists who want Democrats to lose and they're low in numbers. 100000% true. --- This signature is not political. <cite>ooger posted [p:980613876] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite><quote>It's really just tankies and accelerationists who want Democrats to lose and they're low in numbers.</quote>100000% true. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 6:47:46 PM #27:	ooger posted... I guess Trumble doesn't understand that Trump would have made this situation way worse because he is beholden to evangelicals who are *excited and happy* for this war. Got it. You know Biden's actions are indefensible and hence have to resort to deflecting to someone else rather than being able to offer any defence of Biden. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980613882] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>ooger posted... </cite><quote>I guess Trumble doesn't understand that Trump would have made this situation way worse because he is beholden to evangelicals who are excited and happy for this war.</quote>Got it. You know Biden's actions are indefensible and hence have to resort to deflecting to someone else rather than being able to offer any defence of Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 6:50:13 PM #28:	Trumble posted... Got it. You know Biden's actions are indefensible and hence have to resort to deflecting to someone else rather than being able to offer any defence of Biden. Of course Biden is fucking up on this issue. But what the fuck is anyone who isn't a D mega donor supposed to do about it? --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980613919] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Got it. You know Biden's actions are indefensible and hence have to resort to deflecting to someone else rather than being able to offer any defence of Biden.</quote>Of course Biden is fucking up on this issue.But what the fuck is anyone who isn't a D mega donor supposed to do about it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 05/29/24 6:51:50 PM #29:	Trumble posted... Got it. You know Biden's actions are indefensible and hence have to resort to deflecting to someone else rather than being able to offer any defence of Biden. Please tell me how great Trump would be in this situation after watching this video knowing that he is beholden to a death cult. https://youtu.be/Fo77sTGpngQ?si=IRZRWOb1jaGNG06B&t=65 --- This signature is not political. <cite>ooger posted [p:980613938] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Got it. You know Biden's actions are indefensible and hence have to resort to deflecting to someone else rather than being able to offer any defence of Biden.</quote>Please tell me how great Trump would be in this situation after watching this video knowing that he is beholden to a death cult. https://youtu.be/Fo77sTGpngQ?si=IRZRWOb1jaGNG06B&t=65 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 05/29/24 6:52:53 PM #30:	Trumble posted... Got it. You know Biden's actions are indefensible and hence have to resort to deflecting to someone else rather than being able to offer any defence of Biden. I can't speak for him, but I don't want to defend Biden. I just know there are 2 options come November and the Trump options is far worse than the Biden one. It's simple logic and mitigation. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:980613955] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Got it. You know Biden's actions are indefensible and hence have to resort to deflecting to someone else rather than being able to offer any defence of Biden.</quote>I can't speak for him, but I don't want to defend Biden. I just know there are 2 options come November and the Trump options is far worse than the Biden one. It's simple logic and mitigation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 6:53:13 PM #31:	ooger posted... Please tell me how great Trump would be in this situation after watching this video knowing that he is beholden to a death cult. https://youtu.be/Fo77sTGpngQ?si=IRZRWOb1jaGNG06B&t=65 Trump would be fucking awful. I don't know how it's such a hard concept for you to fathom that more than one person can be really shitty at the same time, including that they can be different degrees of shitty, including that despite the different degrees both can be way past the point of what's remotely acceptable. And that neither ones actions justify the other's actions in any way. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980613957] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>ooger posted... </cite><quote>Please tell me how great Trump would be in this situation after watching this video knowing that he is beholden to a death cult. https://youtu.be/Fo77sTGpngQ?si=IRZRWOb1jaGNG06B&t=65</quote>Trump would be fucking awful. I don't know how it's such a hard concept for you to fathom that more than one person can be really shitty at the same time, including that they can be different degrees of shitty, including that despite the different degrees both can be way past the point of what's remotely acceptable. And that neither ones actions justify the other's actions in any way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PballDepot 05/29/24 6:54:56 PM #32:	Trumble posted... Got it. You know Biden's actions are indefensible and hence have to resort to deflecting to someone else rather than being able to offer any defence of Biden. It's ok to ignore (and even praise) Biden's horrible actions because the other guy is worse, or so I'm told. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxVhRWBGOZ0 <cite>PballDepot posted [p:980613975] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Got it. You know Biden's actions are indefensible and hence have to resort to deflecting to someone else rather than being able to offer any defence of Biden.</quote>It's ok to ignore (and even praise) Biden's horrible actions because the other guy is worse, or so I'm told. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 6:55:24 PM #33:	Trumble posted... Trump would be fucking awful. I don't know how it's such a hard concept for you to fathom that more than one person can be really shitty at the same time, including that they can be different degrees of shitty, including that despite the different degrees both can be way past the point of what's remotely acceptable. And that neither ones actions justify the other's actions in any way. Screaming that both options are unacceptable over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again isn't much of a strategy. Its only possible effect is to depress turnout by non-Republicans, thereby making it easier for Trump to win. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980613979] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Trump would be fucking awful. I don't know how it's such a hard concept for you to fathom that more than one person can be really shitty at the same time, including that they can be different degrees of shitty, including that despite the different degrees both can be way past the point of what's remotely acceptable. And that neither ones actions justify the other's actions in any way.</quote>Screaming that both options are unacceptable over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again isn't much of a strategy.Its only possible effect is to depress turnout by non-Republicans, thereby making it easier for Trump to win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 05/29/24 6:55:42 PM #34:	Trumble posted... Trump would be fucking awful He would be much worse. Do you think diaper Donny would have even tried to build a port to get aid into Palestine? Give me a fucking break. --- This signature is not political. <cite>ooger posted [p:980613986] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Trump would be fucking awful</quote>He would be much worse. Do you think diaper Donny would have even tried to build a port to get aid into Palestine?Give me a fucking break. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 6:57:05 PM #35:	ooger posted... He would be much worse. Do you think diaper Donny would have even tried to build a port to get aid into Palestine? Give me a fucking break. We're in complete agreement about how awful Trump is, so I don't know why you keep going back to trying to convince me of that. The discussion is about whether Biden actually has red lines and whether his stance is acceptable; not how it compares to any specific other person. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980613998] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>ooger posted... </cite><quote>He would be much worse. Do you think diaper Donny would have even tried to build a port to get aid into Palestine?Give me a fucking break.</quote>We're in complete agreement about how awful Trump is, so I don't know why you keep going back to trying to convince me of that.The discussion is about whether Biden actually has red lines and whether his stance is acceptable; not how it compares to any specific other person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raiden2909 05/29/24 6:57:44 PM #36:	Trumble posted... Trump would be fucking awful. I don't know how it's such a hard concept for you to fathom that more than one person can be really shitty at the same time, including that they can be different degrees of shitty, including that despite the different degrees both can be way past the point of what's remotely acceptable. And that neither ones actions justify the other's actions in any way. Yes, Biden is being shitty on this issue, We know, Most people Acknowledge it, But Trump would be much MUCH worse on this issue, and is much much worse on every other issue as well So ya, America has two choices, Bad, or Worse, and thinking "well bad doesn't deserve my vote so lets just let worse win" is stupid and will lead to more deaths in both Gaza and America <cite>Raiden2909 posted [p:980614007] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Trump would be fucking awful. I don't know how it's such a hard concept for you to fathom that more than one person can be really shitty at the same time, including that they can be different degrees of shitty, including that despite the different degrees both can be way past the point of what's remotely acceptable. And that neither ones actions justify the other's actions in any way.</quote>Yes, Biden is being shitty on this issue, We know, Most people Acknowledge it, But Trump would be much MUCH worse on this issue, and is much much worse on every other issue as wellSo ya, America has two choices, Bad, or Worse, and thinking "well bad doesn't deserve my vote so lets just let worse win" is stupid and will lead to more deaths in both Gaza and America </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 05/29/24 6:59:06 PM #37:	Trumble posted... The discussion is about whether Biden actually has red lines and whether his stance is acceptable; not how it compares to any specific other person. The title of the topic is "Not sure u guys realize how bad Israel is for Dems Current Events", not "does Biden have a red line?" Hence you are derailing the topic, Trumble. --- This signature is not political. <cite>ooger posted [p:980614026] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>The discussion is about whether Biden actually has red lines and whether his stance is acceptable; not how it compares to any specific other person.</quote>The title of the topic is "Not sure u guys realize how bad Israel is for DemsCurrent Events", not "does Biden have a red line?"Hence you are derailing the topic, Trumble. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 7:01:04 PM #38:	Raiden2909 posted... Yes, Biden is being shitty on this issue, We know, Most people Acknowledge it, But Trump would be much MUCH worse on this issue, and is much much worse on every other issue as well So ya, America has two choices, Bad, or Worse, and thinking "well bad doesn't deserve my vote so lets just let worse win" is stupid and will lead to more deaths in both Gaza and America Sure. I can get "suck it up and accept the lesser evil" in that sense. What I sure as fuck don't get is people actively trying to deflect and defend, or worse, outright praising Biden, on this matter, when literally the only justification they can come up with is "orange man worse". Sure, he is. Doesn't change a fucking thing about that Biden is awful too and needs to be called out for it and pressured via any means possible to change his stance. It also raises some very big questions about whether the people engaging in such deflection perhaps are in favor of the approach Biden is taking, given how much they try to push back against criticism of it. Doubly so in the cases of people who weren't so worried when Biden was criticised on other matters. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980614055] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Raiden2909 posted... </cite><quote>Yes, Biden is being shitty on this issue, We know, Most people Acknowledge it, But Trump would be much MUCH worse on this issue, and is much much worse on every other issue as wellSo ya, America has two choices, Bad, or Worse, and thinking "well bad doesn't deserve my vote so lets just let worse win" is stupid and will lead to more deaths in both Gaza and America</quote>Sure. I can get "suck it up and accept the lesser evil" in that sense.What I sure as fuck don't get is people actively trying to deflect and defend, or worse, outright praising Biden, on this matter, when literally the only justification they can come up with is "orange man worse". Sure, he is. Doesn't change a fucking thing about that Biden is awful too and needs to be called out for it and pressured via any means possible to change his stance. It also raises some very big questions about whether the people engaging in such deflection perhaps are in favor of the approach Biden is taking, given how much they try to push back against criticism of it. Doubly so in the cases of people who weren't so worried when Biden was criticised on other matters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 7:02:04 PM #39:	ooger posted... The title of the topic is "Not sure u guys realize how bad Israel is for Dems Current Events", not "does Biden have a red line?" Hence you are derailing the topic, Trumble. Regrettably, Trumble's nonsense is not a derailing of this topic. It was started by a shit stirrer to stir shit, and Trumble is joining in on that, enthusiastically. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980614064] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>ooger posted... </cite><quote>The title of the topic is "Not sure u guys realize how bad Israel is for DemsCurrent Events", not "does Biden have a red line?"Hence you are derailing the topic, Trumble.</quote>Regrettably, Trumble's nonsense is not a derailing of this topic. It was started by a shit stirrer to stir shit, and Trumble is joining in on that, enthusiastically. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 05/29/24 7:02:46 PM #40:	EPR-radar posted... It was started by a shit stirrer to stir shit, and Trumble is joining in on that, enthusiastically. Yep, that is my point. --- This signature is not political. <cite>ooger posted [p:980614070] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>It was started by a shit stirrer to stir shit, and Trumble is joining in on that, enthusiastically.</quote>Yep, that is my point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/29/24 7:03:10 PM #41:	Trumble posted... Sure. I can get "suck it up and accept the lesser evil" in that sense. What I sure as fuck don't get is people actively trying to deflect and defend, or worse, outright praising Biden, on this matter, when literally the only justification they can come up with is "orange man worse". Sure, he is. Doesn't change a fucking thing about that Biden is awful too and needs to be called out for it and pressured via any means possible to change his stance. It also raises some very big questions about whether the people engaging in such deflection perhaps are in favor of the approach Biden is taking, given how much they try to push back against criticism of it. Doubly so in the cases of people who weren't so worried when Biden was criticised on other matters. you're not even from the US. you need to get it through your head that our choice for the next president is either Biden or Trump. there is no 3rd option. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:980614075] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Sure. I can get "suck it up and accept the lesser evil" in that sense.What I sure as fuck don't get is people actively trying to deflect and defend, or worse, outright praising Biden, on this matter, when literally the only justification they can come up with is "orange man worse". Sure, he is. Doesn't change a fucking thing about that Biden is awful too and needs to be called out for it and pressured via any means possible to change his stance. It also raises some very big questions about whether the people engaging in such deflection perhaps are in favor of the approach Biden is taking, given how much they try to push back against criticism of it. Doubly so in the cases of people who weren't so worried when Biden was criticised on other matters.</quote>you're not even from the US. you need to get it through your head that our choice for the next president is either Biden or Trump. there is no 3rd option. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 05/29/24 7:03:11 PM #42:	Who is "praising" Biden while acknowledging he's just less bad than Trump? Is this some attempt to make "Blue MAGA" seem like a significant thing? --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:980614076] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>Who is "praising" Biden while acknowledging he's just less bad than Trump?Is this some attempt to make "Blue MAGA" seem like a significant thing? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/29/24 7:03:42 PM #43:	thronedfire2 posted... you're not even from the US. you need to get it through your head that our choice for the next president is either Biden or Trump. there is no 3rd option. Did... Did you read the literal first fucking sentence of the post you quoted? --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980614080] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>you're not even from the US. you need to get it through your head that our choice for the next president is either Biden or Trump. there is no 3rd option.</quote>Did... Did you read the literal first fucking sentence of the post you quoted? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighSeraph 05/29/24 7:04:33 PM #44:	I'm pretty sure Trumble and cj want Trump to win at this point --- She/Her She rings like a bell through the night <cite>HighSeraph posted [p:980614086] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure Trumble and cj want Trump to win at this point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 7:05:10 PM #45:	thronedfire2 posted... you're not even from the US. you need to get it through your head that our choice for the next president is either Biden or Trump. there is no 3rd option. FFS. I don't know which is worse. Genuine clueless foreign busybodies, or Russian/GOP ratfuckers pretending to be same. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980614099] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>you're not even from the US. you need to get it through your head that our choice for the next president is either Biden or Trump. there is no 3rd option.</quote>FFS. I don't know which is worse. Genuine clueless foreign busybodies, or Russian/GOP ratfuckers pretending to be same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 05/29/24 7:05:27 PM #46:	And we can't fucking forget that a lot of criticism of Biden on this matter comes with suggestions to not vote or how both sides are equally bad. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:980614100] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>And we can't fucking forget that a lot of criticism of Biden on this matter comes with suggestions to not vote or how both sides are equally bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 7:06:14 PM #47:	HighSeraph posted... I'm pretty sure Trumble and cj want Trump to win at this point Making it easier for Trump to win is the only possible result of all their bellyaching, so yes, the conclusion follows. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980614110] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>HighSeraph posted... </cite><quote>I'm pretty sure Trumble and cj want Trump to win at this point</quote>Making it easier for Trump to win is the only possible result of all their bellyaching, so yes, the conclusion follows. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 05/29/24 7:07:20 PM #48:	hockeybabe89 posted... And we can't fucking forget that a lot of criticism of Biden on this matter comes with suggestions to not vote or how both sides are equally bad. That's the whole point of this kind of trolling, of course. A naked message to not vote is too obvious, so pretend to care about I/P and see who is stupid enough to fall for it. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:980614122] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>And we can't fucking forget that a lot of criticism of Biden on this matter comes with suggestions to not vote or how both sides are equally bad.</quote>That's the whole point of this kind of trolling, of course.A naked message to not vote is too obvious, so pretend to care about I/P and see who is stupid enough to fall for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raiden2909 05/29/24 7:07:48 PM #49:	EPR-radar posted... FFS. I don't know which is worse. Genuine clueless foreign busybodies, or Russian/GOP ratfuckers pretending to be same. Eeeh, to be fair i am Canadian, But i stand by the fact that i have every right to talk about American politics since its shit constantly screws up my own countries Not helped with the current Conservative party leader being a Trump wanna be fanboy who was only put in his position to help appeal to the FAR right <cite>Raiden2909 posted [p:980614130] in Not sure u... [t:80779092]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>FFS. I don't know which is worse. Genuine clueless foreign busybodies, or Russian/GOP ratfuckers pretending to be same.</quote>Eeeh, to be fair i am Canadian, But i stand by the fact that i have every right to talk about American politics since its shit constantly screws up my own countries Not helped with the current Conservative party leader being a Trump wanna be fanboy who was only put in his position to help appeal to the FAR right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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