Board 8 > Community Mafia Topic 17 - A 1 Hour Video Lecture by Guest Professor Turbopuns

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Blade, if you are town and I have lynched, you are fully taking responsible for town throwing you like to accuse people for. No figuring out a way to throw that responsibility elsewhere, no more of this unjustified pride after defending the flipped scum and only calling flipped town too late in the day. You swallow all that entirely in this case.

I am honestly unsure what MI did with everything on the table to remove himself for being considered by most people. Because he has to be considered with all we know.

I mean yeah regardless of his alignment scum would rather have me lynched, that's obvious, but it can't be only scum shifting focus.

He is directly responding to Ulti's vote when he claims. A claim that he was not ready for, and the scum team did not have ready to go for him

These two cannot be aligned. I'm moving on to another person, because I think I've proven my point

Both of you (MI And Blade) are saying Ulti is scum. Do you have anything to say about the posts I pulled up last night?

Tons of people piled on Knightz, myself included, very early. I remember early on D1 saying to him 'don't feel bad, rolling scum is hard'.

And, like I just said, Ulti might have been involved on the Knightz push, but Ulti isn't above bussing and Ulti tried hard to get me lynched instead of Knightz EOD. I don't believe Ulti's excuse of 'that was never really going to happen'.

But basically if you're going to clear Ulti based on how he treated Knightz, I honestly feel I deserve the same treatment. So if you're going to lynch me today you can't clear him based on that!

And I also think the Wallz post where he provides a fake read on Ulti and says Ulti is either power or scum can't be scum/scum

And seriously, if a scum has managed to get deep into the town clears which is looking pretty likely, then they want to eliminate the ability that can catch them no matter how well hidden they are, which I have.

If MZero was not shot directly, we can infer he did not taunt red, death, ben, blade, ctes, FD, IGCD, Kirby or Ulti (Blade is possible if you don't trust his protection claim but yeah). Chang and MI are possible.

Use that as you will.

we only know for sure that MZero didn't taunt me

Ctes, with all due respect, you're delusional if you think your role has any value whatsoever in this current game state. Best you can offer without risking your own life is a prosty scan that'd only be useful on Chang or IGCD (or MI if he's still alive by that point).

You're practically a French Vanilla at this point. You're not even remotely threatening to scum until you get a vig shot or a prosty scan, and the game just might be over by the time that even happens.

Gee, I wonder why ctes would post something with such poor logic that he tried to use to clear everyone but me? Hmm.

Nah. If after I've said not to kill peaf, Red and death and no one listened and you all still want to lynch me you get what attitude you get because I'm done :)

Can someone do some math for me?

Unscanned vs possible nights remaining with 2 and 3 scum left.

I'm trying to formulate but am driving

A response to post 14 would be nice. Who are the 3 scum in the 3 power after I narrow it down to 4 people? FD and Ben both would be a massive stretch.

Ctes, with all due respect, you're delusional if you think your role has any value whatsoever in this current game state. Best you can offer without risking your own life is a prosty scan that'd only be useful on Chang or IGCD (or MI if he's still alive by that point).

You're practically a French Vanilla at this point. You're not even remotely threatening to scum until you get a vig shot or a prosty scan, and the game just might be over by the time that even happens.

Yo wait a minute.

Shameless defense of myself here. But if you believe Chang is town, you pretty much have to believe I am town. Chang told me about his role on night 1, which not only could take control of the lynch, but leaves him basically confirmed town. Why would scum not want to take Chang out night 1 if I had that information? No way he was getting doctor saved, because no one else knew about his role.

1. There was no kill on day 1. We still don't technically know if it was stopped by a rb or a doc save but it seems likely to be the RB at this stage. Unless you're TMIng here and suggesting I wasn't the target / it was the doc save... But you can't even say with certainty that I wasn't the target, however unlikely that may have been after my day 1.
2. (in the scenario where you are scum) Killing me on night 1 after multiple people expressed interest in lynching me immediately on day 2 and the scum (night) role scanner dead on day 1 would surely leave people scratching their heads. I don't think it's likely you would ever be able to use your neighborizer action afterwards for fear of someone catching on that I told you my role and that's why I got killed
3. Much like you had me recite a random poem and I did it for funsies, I was pretty confident that even as scum you wouldn't kill me and you'd let me make my video and have my fun for the purpose of entertaining the game. Just based on our personalities. Plus like, you could have the opportunity to influence my views and try and turn it into a mislynch. It's not as though it's a must-kill role. Scum appeared to be doc / scanner hunting the first few nights anyway

This post is actually super frustrating after I spent a day saying exactly this but people kept saying "what are you talking about you can still do all the same things" lol.

It does not have anything to do with the fact that you claimed. If you are telling the truth and and the role is real, then the role just sucks and it takes luck almost to get anything out of it. It would basically never be worthwhile to bet your own life and the rewards otherwise are meager. It's just a bad role.

Your insistence that scum would somehow be hurt by your claim that you can benefit from predicting the night kill after 4 failed attempts to predict the night kill is the part that doesn't make sense.

I will not be entertaining these hypotheticals today, thanks. Let's end the day.

Your insistence that scum would somehow be hurt by your claim that you can benefit from predicting the night kill after 4 failed attempts to predict the night kill is the part that doesn't make sense.