Poll of the Day > Just got an ad for jordan b peterson on Gamefaqs

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argonautweakend
04/30/24 1:40:10 PM
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I feel like we've discussed the irony of no political talk but unmonitored ads before yeah?
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Jen0125
04/30/24 1:59:21 PM
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Report the ad to the mods for politics
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Lokarin
04/30/24 2:10:02 PM
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all my ads (on the mobile) are phishing scams

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ConfusedTorchic
04/30/24 3:18:47 PM
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no reason to not use an ad block

especially here

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slacker03150
04/30/24 3:20:49 PM
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Going to have to start using brave to come here. The whole page seems to freeze for 30 seconds to load an ad.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f716f8b1.jpg
On one hand. Yay bra deals. On he other, why underwear models on a game site?

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adjl
04/30/24 3:24:29 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Report the ad to the mods for politics

For that matter, the new ToU explicitly prohibits misgendering and other forms of transphobia, and we all know Peterson's all about that. Removing that ad should be a no-brainer.

ConfusedTorchic posted...
no reason to not use an ad block

especially here

But also this. I haven't seen an ad on GameFAQs in over a decade, and from how it sounds the ads are going these days, that won't be changing. If they stopped being so aggressively obnoxious with them and actually took responsibility for their contents and safety? I might consider it. But that's precisely the opposite of their current direction and the ad philosophy displayed on every other Fandom site, so I don't expect much.

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ConfusedTorchic
04/30/24 4:57:05 PM
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slacker03150 posted...
On one hand. Yay bra deals. On he other, why underwear models on a game site?

it's brilliant

it's for the like, 5 women that come here, and it's for the large boys. maybe they would like to feel pretty, too, while also getting the support they need to make their backs hurt less

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argonautweakend
04/30/24 5:21:07 PM
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i do use adblock but just at home. i rarely visit here on my phone eek didnt thing about it
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Jen0125
04/30/24 6:07:51 PM
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slacker03150 posted...
Going to have to start using brave to come here. The whole page seems to freeze for 30 seconds to load an ad.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f716f8b1.jpg
On one hand. Yay bra deals. On he other, why underwear models on a game site?

isn't this pic considered hornyposting???
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C0RNISHACID
04/30/24 6:24:12 PM
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It's only ok when fandom does it

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ConfusedTorchic
04/30/24 7:22:42 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
i do use adblock but just at home. i rarely visit here on my phone eek didnt thing about it
you don't have an ad block at all on your phone?????????????

how do you even

you can get brave browser, for just a browser

or if your phone is capable, you can set a custom dns, and just use adguard and block ads throughout the entire phone.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
05/01/24 12:26:02 AM
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adjl posted...
we all know Peterson's all about that.
I suspect you haven't tried listening to his actual comments on the subject instead of what people are saying about him.

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kind9
05/01/24 6:00:57 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I suspect you haven't tried listening to his actual comments on the subject instead of what people are saying about him.
This pseudointellectual cringelord you mean? Listen to him whine about being suspended from twitter for misgendering, as he doubles down on the misgendering.

https://youtu.be/UYfKWQqvFac

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ConfusedTorchic
05/01/24 6:14:23 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I suspect you haven't tried listening to his actual comments on the subject instead of what people are saying about him.

if you actually listened to him you would know that what people say about him are, in fact, correct.

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adjl
05/01/24 7:47:47 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I suspect you haven't tried listening to his actual comments on the subject instead of what people are saying about him.

Does he or does he not take issue with referring to people by their chosen names and pronouns instead of alternatives which he believes are more appropriate (for whatever reason)?

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SKARDAVNELNATE
05/01/24 12:35:31 PM
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adjl posted...
Does he or does he not take issue with referring to people by their chosen names and pronouns instead of alternatives which he believes are more appropriate (for whatever reason)?
His stance is that it depends on the situation. He does take issue with passing laws to compel speech. Since this is not CE I cannot elaborate on that argument further. We are talking about what views Jordan Person has and not advocating for or against them. The point of which being that people do not take time to understand what his position is because they conflate "he has an issue with how laws are passed" with "he has an issue with trans people".

Knowing what his real argument is I do not find his position on that matter to be transphobic. Similarly, he has an argument about people being monkeys full of snakes. This can be interpreted as being in favor of self identifying, depending on the situation. If identifying as a monkey is more useful than identifying as snakes, and if people are consistent about it. Otherwise the facade of a monkey drops, the snakes start to come out, and other monkey people won't know what to make of that. Is that not what trans people advocate for? To be recognized as one thing instead of another that they would be seen as. Jordan Peterson also argues in favor of that.

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Lokarin
05/01/24 12:40:49 PM
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kind9 posted...
This pseudointellectual cringelord you mean? Listen to him whine about being suspended from twitter for misgendering, as he doubles down on the misgendering.

https://youtu.be/UYfKWQqvFac

weird, I'm currently banned on twitter for making fun of Jordan Peterson

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ReturnOfFa
05/01/24 3:24:51 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I suspect you haven't tried listening to his actual comments on the subject instead of what people are saying about him.
Have done so and you are incorrect.

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Lynyrd_Skynyrd
05/01/24 5:28:03 PM
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BoomerKuwanger posted...
People are monkeys that are full of snakes. Okay. Compelling argument that makes total sense

Everything this skardnate guy posts is such a gigantic L lmao

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Jen0125
05/01/24 5:30:20 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Knowing what his real argument is I do not find his position on that matter to be transphobic. Similarly, he has an argument about people being monkeys full of snakes. This can be interpreted as being in favor of self identifying, depending on the situation. If identifying as a monkey is more useful than identifying as snakes, and if people are consistent about it. Otherwise the facade of a monkey drops, the snakes start to come out, and other monkey people won't know what to make of that. Is that not what trans people advocate for? To be recognized as one thing instead of another that they would be seen as. Jordan Peterson also argues in favor of that.

How does this does this make sense to you at all
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Lynyrd_Skynyrd
05/01/24 5:30:49 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
How is this sensical to you at all
He's very smart Jen
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Jen0125
05/01/24 5:32:01 PM
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Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...
He's very smart Jen

Lmao I edited my comment because i wasn't sure he'd even know what that word meant at this point.

Like humans aren't monkeys filled with snakes at all what is the scenario here we aren't even monkeys
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Cruddy_horse
05/01/24 5:32:40 PM
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BoomerKuwanger posted...
People are monkeys that are full of snakes. Okay. Compelling argument that makes total sense

Everything this skardnate guy posts is such a gigantic L lmao

I've had him tagged as transphobic for a long, long time, not sure why more people don't do this.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
05/01/24 5:46:06 PM
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BoomerKuwanger posted...
Everything this skardnate guy posts is such a gigantic L lmao
It sounds like you haven't cleaned your room.

ReturnOfFa posted...
Have done so and you are incorrect.
Psst, @adjl I think you have a stalker. He knows you've been listening to Jordan Perterson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io9xTYvfbkk

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Lynyrd_Skynyrd
05/01/24 5:48:07 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE came here to take L's and chew bubblegum, and he's all out of gum.
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adjl
05/01/24 7:59:25 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
His stance is that it depends on the situation.

And that's transphobic. Full stop. Unless it's Twitter, deliberately deadnaming or misgendering somebody is transphobic (and it's only okay in Twitter's case because Twitter isn't a person and deadnaming it is just resisting Musk's absurd insistence on trying to force a new identity on it against whatever will it can be said to have). The only situation in which it is not is if you are a medical professional responsible for the well-being of the person in question and you have genuine cause to believe that their apparent gender dysphoria will be better served by not providing gender-affirming care, and even that situation is exceedingly rare because the vast majority of the body of research on the subject advises against being so antagonistic to anyone seeking gender-affirming care.

In every other case - with no further exceptions - deliberate deadnaming and misgendering is nothing more than a self-righteous circle jerk at the expense of the mental health of your victim. End of story.

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faramir77
05/01/24 8:09:44 PM
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Jordan Peterson is the textbook definition of an absolute moron's idea of an intellectual.

It's always the saddest fucking people who listen to this guy. Let's get life advice from the guy who thinks human psychology is a derivative of lobster psychology, whines about transgender people, received life altering injuries from eating only meat for over a month because vegetables are liberal food, and then developed a severe addiction to benzos.

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BigMikeyEvans
05/01/24 8:51:44 PM
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
you don't have an ad block at all on your phone?????????????

how do you even

you can get brave browser, for just a browser

or if your phone is capable, you can set a custom dns, and just use adguard and block ads throughout the entire phone.

This. What ads?

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SKARDAVNELNATE
05/01/24 9:21:10 PM
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adjl posted...
And that's transphobic. Full stop. Unless it's Twitter, deliberately deadnaming or misgendering somebody is transphobic
You don't seem to know what transphobia is. Jordan Peterson has gone into detail about why he has taken the stance that he has. Not once did he say that it's because he hates people for being trans. There was an interview with Cathy Newman where he stumped her with how little his answer had to do with trans people.

adjl posted...
and it's only okay in Twitter's case because Twitter isn't a person and deadnaming it is just resisting Musk's absurd insistence on trying to force a new identity on it against whatever will it can be said to have
I just don't see how this is relevant to what we're talking about. I assume you only brought it up to distract me and lead me off on a tangent. Please stick to the subject of Jordan Peterson.

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HelIWithoutSin
05/01/24 9:43:13 PM
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Yeah adjl, stick to the topic of monkeys full of snakes.

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Lokarin
05/01/24 9:47:27 PM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Yeah adjl, stick to the topic of monkeys full of snakes.

well, we are in fact hominids with flagellant gametes

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adjl
05/01/24 9:47:34 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
You don't seem to know what transphobia is.
adjl posted...
deliberate deadnaming and misgendering is nothing more than a self-righteous circle jerk at the expense of the mental health of your victim. End of story.

There are varying degrees of transphobia, certainly, and I'll happily concede that somebody who deliberately misgenders trans people in a handful of circumstances where they think it's a good idea is not as egregiously a transphobic nuggetwanker as somebody who does so because they want all trans people to go away, but they're still a transphobic nuggetwanker.

Remember: accepting a trans person as their chosen gender reduces their risk of suicide by 50% (a substantial additive reduction, given that roughly 30% of people with gender dysphoria attempt suicide). It doesn't matter how smart or important you think you are, nothing about what you think, say, or do will ever justify doubling somebody's risk of suicide. Nothing.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I assume you only brought it up to distract me and lead me off on a tangent.

Deadnaming Twitter is a pretty well established meme/running joke at this point. It's nothing to do with you personally. Get over yourself.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
Yeah adjl, stick to the topic of monkeys full of snakes.

What if a snake eats a monkey, but the monkey is still alive inside the snake, then the snake disguises itself as a monkey again?

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SKARDAVNELNATE
05/01/24 10:28:40 PM
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adjl posted...
not as egregiously a transphobic nuggetwanker as somebody who does so because they want all trans people to go away, but they're still a transphobic nuggetwanker.
You may think Jordan Peterson is a nuggetwanker but you have yet to adequately support the transphobic part. Jordan Peterson's stance and the views that inform it are well explored in various interviews and other appearances. Trans people have very little if anything to do with those views. By continuing to call him transphobic you assert that his feelings about trans people are a primary motivation for him. This is factually untrue.

adjl posted...
It doesn't matter how smart or important you think you are, nothing about what you think, say, or do will ever justify doubling somebody's risk of suicide. Nothing.
To support the claim of transphobia it would be necessary to demonstrate that this is the intended outcome. Transphobia is not the result of ones actions. It is an attitude toward a trait a person has. It is found in the cause, not the effect of those actions. You are arguing the result is the same when the cause is well established to be different.

adjl posted...
What if a snake eats a monkey, but the monkey is still alive inside the snake, then the snake disguises itself as a monkey again?
The snakes and the monkey are one being. It was a metaphor for ones actions matching the image of themselves that they present to the outside world. I think you just described one persons dark impulses making it so another person can no longer mask their dark impulses. This sounds like the first Darkman movie.

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HelIWithoutSin
05/01/24 10:34:36 PM
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adjl posted...
What if a snake eats a monkey, but the monkey is still alive inside the snake, then the snake disguises itself as a monkey again?

https://imgur.com/gallery/WrKPhfd

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ConfusedTorchic
05/02/24 2:52:51 AM
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adjl posted...
What if a snake eats a monkey, but the monkey is still alive inside the snake, then the snake disguises itself as a monkey again?

it would actually be a monkey disguised as a snake disguised as a monkey

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Yellow
05/02/24 4:31:20 AM
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While I still have the chance, does anyone remember the time Tucker Carlson told his audience to literally sunbathe their anuses? I feel like we aren't really capable of processing that fully.

Make your bed, eat red meat every day, the man of the house must hunt for food, and dresses are for women and always have been. They always have been.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Transphobia
Oh we got a live one

Idk what you're talking about but the range of Conservative thought towards trans people is from "I think they are mentally ill", and "they are child groomers". Jordan definitely falls in the more extreme category since he's attacked trans people on Twitter for posting because kids might see. When confronted with it JP will 100% of the time act like he's not that extreme and he's being misrepresented, because his mind is a complex mandlebrot set that just zooms in for more and more bullshit.

If you actually feel like they are child groomers, don't bother posting it, because you will just get banned immediately.

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kind9
05/02/24 5:59:44 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
You may think Jordan Peterson is a nuggetwanker but you have yet to adequately support the transphobic part. Jordan Peterson's stance and the views that inform it are well explored in various interviews and other appearances. Trans people have very little if anything to do with those views. By continuing to call him transphobic you assert that his feelings about trans people are a primary motivation for him. This is factually untrue.
The only reason Jorbpson became famous in the first place was for his obnoxious refusal to use gender-neutral pronouns in his classroom (pretend you don't remember that viral video that made him an alt-right hero) and then the subsequent media campaign wherein he whinged and moaned about Canadian bill C-16, which he either didn't understand because he's stupid or intentionally misconstrued because he's a transphobe.

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adjl
05/02/24 8:49:32 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
By continuing to call him transphobic you assert that his feelings about trans people are a primary motivation for him.

No. By calling him transphobic, I assert that he considers the well-being of trans people to be a lower priority than whatever reasons he has for deliberately misgendering them. This is what I mean by saying that there are varying degrees of transphobia: "I want to hurt trans people" is different from "I don't care that I'm hurting trans." They are, however, both transphobia, regardless of how strongly the person in question wants trans people to be hurt.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
To support the claim of transphobia it would be necessary to demonstrate that this is the intended outcome.

If you know that a given outcome is likely to follow a given action, and you take that action, that means you're intentionally causing that outcome. It may not specifically be your goal, but you've accepted its association with your actions and decided whatever good your actions can achieve outweighs whatever harm might be associated with the outcome. You are responsible for the consequences of that decision and must justify the harms with the good you believe your actions can bring.

Again, it doesn't matter how smart or important you think you are, nothing about what you think, say, or do will ever justify doubling somebody's risk of suicide. If you think otherwise, that is devaluing that person's life to a degree that cannot be described as anything less than hateful. Ergo, transphobia.

But hey, you seem to think you (or Peterson) have a point. So I ask you: In what situations is deliberately misgendering a trans person so important that it justifies doubling their risk of suicide? What answer can you provide to this question without admitting that you (or Peterson) care more about your own worthless ego than the well-being of trans people at a conceptual level?

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Zareth
05/02/24 4:26:11 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
He does take issue with passing laws to compel speech.
This is pretty funny when you consider that the people passing laws over pronouns are requiring people to use the gender they were assigned at birth. As far as I know there's no law requiring you to use a person's preferred pronouns in the US.

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ReturnOfFa
05/02/24 4:37:37 PM
#42:


SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
You may think Jordan Peterson is a nuggetwanker but you have yet to adequately support the transphobic part. Jordan Peterson's stance and the views that inform it are well explored in various interviews and other appearances. Trans people have very little if anything to do with those views. By continuing to call him transphobic you assert that his feelings about trans people are a primary motivation for him. This is factually untrue.

To support the claim of transphobia it would be necessary to demonstrate that this is the intended outcome. Transphobia is not the result of ones actions. It is an attitude toward a trait a person has. It is found in the cause, not the effect of those actions. You are arguing the result is the same when the cause is well established to be different.

The snakes and the monkey are one being. It was a metaphor for ones actions matching the image of themselves that they present to the outside world. I think you just described one persons dark impulses making it so another person can no longer mask their dark impulses. This sounds like the first Darkman movie.
He literally claims that children are being butchered lmfao. He's blatantly anti-trans.

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ReturnOfFa
05/02/24 4:46:06 PM
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"most of the kids being sterilized and mutilated are gay"

https://youtu.be/36UuB1CQSyo

He is blatantly spreading untruths about kids/children to demonize anything coming close to accepting transgenderism.

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ReturnOfFa
05/02/24 4:47:09 PM
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Guess dingdong blocked me?
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SKARDAVNELNATE
05/02/24 6:39:07 PM
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Yellow posted...
the range of Conservative thought towards trans people
I was only discussing Jordan Peterson. Not any group. I don't know if he's conservative. And trying to determine what counts as a conservative position might be political discussion.

Yellow posted...
100% of the time act like he's not that extreme and he's being misrepresented
I see this as more of a social issue than a political one. Society has gone very extreme in one direction. The opposition to this has been a moderate stance. I don't believe we've seen an extreme stance in the opposite direction.

Zareth posted...
As far as I know there's no law requiring you to use a person's preferred pronouns in the US.
My understanding is that Jordan Peterson is a Canadian citizen and that country passed such a law.

ReturnOfFa posted...
Guess dingdong blocked me?
Did you want my attention so badly that you couldn't wait an hour for me to see your posts?

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SKARDAVNELNATE
05/02/24 7:03:27 PM
#46:


adjl posted...
They are, however, both transphobia
I disagree. One is active disdain because they fall into a category. The other is indifference toward them and the category the fall into. This further demonstrates why I think you don't understand what transphobia is. A necessary component is caring that someone is trans.

adjl posted...
regardless of how strongly the person in question wants trans people to be hurt.
No, I think that does make a difference. It requires negative regard. Not just a lack of regard.

adjl posted...
It may not specifically be your goal, but you've accepted its association with your actions and decided whatever good your actions can achieve outweighs whatever harm might be associated with the outcome.
Yes, exactly! This is what I've been saying about Jordan Peterson. He's not showing a negative regard for trans people because of how he feels about them being trans. He's showing a lack of regard of being trans because he values something more.

adjl posted...
that is devaluing that person's life to a degree that cannot be described as anything less than hateful
There is a vast ocean of difference between indifference and hate.

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Jen0125
05/02/24 7:05:04 PM
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Why are you okay with someone lacking regard towards other regular people?
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SKARDAVNELNATE
05/02/24 7:32:35 PM
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adjl posted...
But hey, you seem to think you (or Peterson) have a point. So I ask you: In what situations is deliberately misgendering a trans person so important that it justifies doubling their risk of suicide?

I admit this is a good question. Every time this has been raised before I have been left wondering how 3rd person pronouns come up when engaging in a 1 to 1 conversation. Normally they are only used when the subject is not there to hear how you refer to them.

Some assumptions would have to be made to construct such a scenario. I guess I'm interacting with them in person in some way, or somehow put in a situation where I can't just go about ignoring them.

There's two ways I could see it going from there. For the first one let's say I have already referred to them in a way they don't like because I didn't know. I would rather take myself out of the situation. Whatever reason I had to talk to them is not worth it to pursue further.

The other way I see it going is that the first thing they say to me is that they want me to refer to them in some way. Even then I can find some way to excuse myself. Even if I'm there for a job interview I can respond "I don't think I'll be a fit here" and leave.

It is difficult to construct a situation where I need to deliberately misgender someone since I see ways of not talking to them to begin with. If they continue to insist on it even after I left and follow me despite making my intentions known then I can see a reason to just to emphasize my desire to not talk to them.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
05/02/24 7:36:45 PM
#49:


Jen0125 posted...
Why are you okay with someone lacking regard towards other regular people?
I would like everyone who disagrees with me to know that I am indifferent to you. You are just text that appears on a screen. And I sincerely hope that to you I am the same.

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adjl
05/02/24 7:39:51 PM
#50:


"I'm not transphobic, I'd just prefer to categorically avoid talking to somebody after learning that they're trans than refer to them by their preferred name and pronouns."

Holy shit dude.

For clarity, because I know you won't pick up on this on your own, this time your suspension is for being blatantly transphobic.

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