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DDP886
04/24/24 12:22:46 PM
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seems a bit nostalgic to me

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FortuneCookie
04/24/24 12:25:12 PM
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Andrew "Sharp Knife" Jackson
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DDP886
04/24/24 12:25:48 PM
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Trump

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OudeGeuze
04/24/24 12:26:40 PM
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Reagan

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Xenogears15
04/24/24 12:29:09 PM
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Buchanan. Trump is running real quick to usurp him, though.

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TheMikh
04/24/24 12:29:33 PM
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buchanan
wilson

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DDP886
04/24/24 12:30:57 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
Buchanan. Trump is running real quick to usurp him, though.
Trumpo is the WORST we EVER had

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ssb_yunglink2
04/24/24 12:34:31 PM
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I cant possibly say Trump is the worst when Andrew Jackson and Andrew Johnson exist. Johnsons botched reconstruction is still plaguing this country this day.

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nocturnal_traveler
04/24/24 12:43:39 PM
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Buchanan
Johnson
Trump
Reagan

In that order...for now. Funny enough, they all share a common trait of ruining this country in the long term.

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Fenriswolf
04/24/24 12:52:57 PM
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George W Bush is worse than Donald Trump. At least Trump faced fierce resistance, can't say that about GWB who convinced Americans to follow him into two disastrous wars and questioning him would be unpatriotic.

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Tyranthraxus
04/24/24 12:56:35 PM
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Fenriswolf posted...
George W Bush is worse than Donald Trump
I would have agreed with this all the way up until January 6.

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creativerealms
04/24/24 12:58:57 PM
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Herbert Hoover tends to be left off worst presidents lists even though he deserves a spot. Is he the absolute worst? No bottom five? Yes.

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nocturnal_traveler
04/24/24 1:01:22 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I would have agreed with this all the way up until January 6.
This. Besides, Bush Jr was just a GOP puppet. They tried to recreate that puppet through Trump, but failed miserably.

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YellowSUV
04/24/24 1:05:38 PM
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Andrew Johnson. He had the opportunity to destroy the Southern aristocracy and create much more equal society. Instead he let them keep a bunch of power and they eventually were able to destroy Reconstruction. Without Johnson it is very likely a lot of the race tensions plaguing America would be gone.

Buchanan was a bad president but I think the Civil War was inevitable no matter who was president.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/24/24 1:10:25 PM
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YellowSUV posted...
Andrew Johnson. He had the opportunity to destroy the Southern aristocracy and create much more equal society. Instead he let them keep a bunch of power and they eventually were able to destroy Reconstruction. Without Johnson it is very likely a lot of the race tensions plaguing America would be gone.

Buchanan was a bad president but I think the Civil War was inevitable no matter who was president.
Yeah slavery wasnt going to end without war. Johnson taking the victory over slavery and not stomping it out completely is one of the worst things a president has ever done to this country

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legendary_zell
04/24/24 1:12:27 PM
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Johnson-Destroyed Reconstruction and our country's one real chance for racial and economic justice. We're still digging out of the hole this guy put us in and may never get out.
Buchanan-Gave up the farm to Southern slave interests, resulting in death and destruction.
Reagan-Completed capitulation to capital, death squads, empowered religious right.
Nixon-Shattered public trust, started creep towards fascism, killed millions, sabotaged peace.
Trump-Corruption, fascism
Bush-Criminal Wars, inflation of financial bubble
Jackson-Genocide

Honorable mention to Wilson for his racism. Honestly, almost all our Presidents have been awful. Even the two "best" ones, FDR and Lincoln did horrible things to people they felt they didn't have to care about.

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Xenogears15
04/24/24 2:27:34 PM
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DDP886 posted...
Trumpo is the WORST we EVER had

Not yet.

nocturnal_traveler posted...
Buchanan
Johnson
Trump
Reagan

In that order...for now. Funny enough, they all share a common trait of ruining this country in the long term.

This dude's got the right order. I'll add in Wilson at #5, Nixon at #6, and Andrew Jackson (the OG Trump) at #7.

And @nocturnal_traveler , the reason that they all share that trait is because it's pretty much a prerequisite to being one of the worst ever.

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Cocytus
04/24/24 2:29:01 PM
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Donald J Trump

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ReiRei89
04/24/24 2:30:57 PM
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Trump. Buchanan, Johnson, Jackson and Dubya are bottom of the barrel but only the fat fuck tried and still tries to have our democratic system dismantled so he can be declared king.

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Crimson_Corsair
04/24/24 2:31:21 PM
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Whoever wins 2024

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trappedunderice
04/24/24 2:34:05 PM
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Garfield
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Tyranthraxus
04/24/24 2:34:08 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
Not yet.

This dude's got the right order. I'll add in Nixon at #5, Wilson at #6, and Andrew Jackson (the OG Trump) at #7.

Funny thing about Andrew Jackson. Dude toured up and down the country about how the election was stolen from him but unlike Trump, Jackson was actually right. No candidate held a majority, but Jackson had a the plurality. Then everything came down to votes in Congress and JQA made a backdoor deal with Henry Clay to get Clay appointed to Secretary of State in exchange for votes.

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Umbreon
04/24/24 2:40:13 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Johnson-Destroyed Reconstruction and our country's one real chance for racial and economic justice. We're still digging out of the hole this guy put us in and may never get out.
Buchanan-Gave up the farm to Southern slave interests, resulting in death and destruction.
Reagan-Completed capitulation to capital, death squads, empowered religious right.
Nixon-Shattered public trust, started creep towards fascism, killed millions, sabotaged peace.
Trump-Corruption, fascism
Bush-Criminal Wars, inflation of financial bubble
Jackson-Genocide

Honorable mention to Wilson for his racism. Honestly, almost all our Presidents have been awful. Even the two "best" ones, FDR and Lincoln did horrible things to people they felt they didn't have to care about.

This seems about right to me. Though I'm not sure of an exact order.

Trump is certainly the worst president I've lived through thus far.

Well debatably Reagan, but I was literally 1.

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Prismsblade
04/24/24 2:44:01 PM
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Biden for the past year alone.

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dancing_cactuar
04/24/24 2:54:31 PM
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Topic needs more Bush Jr. hate.

Though he's still below Buchanan and Johnson in terms of garbo.

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Sheiky-Baby
04/24/24 2:57:00 PM
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Ronald Reagan

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nocturnal_traveler
04/24/24 5:49:46 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
Not yet.

This dude's got the right order. I'll add in Wilson at #5, Nixon at #6, and Andrew Jackson (the OG Trump) at #7.

And @nocturnal_traveler , the reason that they all share that trait is because it's pretty much a prerequisite to being one of the worst ever.
On a lot of worst Presidents lists, I often see Coolidge thrown around, but I don't know anything about the guy.

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ForsakenHermit
04/24/24 5:51:31 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
Buchanan. Trump is running real quick to usurp him, though.
Buchanan was a real president. Slug Virus was not.

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DDP886
04/24/24 6:04:31 PM
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Bump for nostalgic value

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Thanatos_the_Great
04/24/24 6:47:11 PM
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Nixon. Deliberately prolonged the war in Vietnam and spread it to Laos and Cambodia, resulting in millions of deaths. Started the GOP's journey towards fascism. Extremely racist. Committed actual treason to get elected. Honestly, Watergate is just a footnote in the book of his evil.

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ReiRei89
04/24/24 6:49:19 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Biden for the past year alone.
You're not even trying.

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Bishop9800
04/24/24 7:21:23 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Biden for the past year alone.

why?

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Xenogears15
04/24/24 7:24:27 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Buchanan was a real president. Slug Virus was not.

Buchanan also didn't even try to lift a finger as the nation went headlong into civil war. It's a fair argument that the war was unavoidable, but the fact that he didn't even try to do anything damns him to the worst spot. For now. God help us if anyone surpasses him.

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thronedfire2
04/24/24 7:25:24 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
Buchanan also didn't even try to lift a finger as the nation went headlong into civil war. It's a fair argument that the war was unavoidable, but the fact that he didn't even try to do anything damns him to the worst spot. For now. God help us if anyone surpasses him.


..what could he do?

even back then an opposite majority congress could hamstring the president

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ForsakenHermit
04/24/24 8:16:05 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
..what could he do?

even back then an opposite majority congress could hamstring the president
It was an insurrection. The constitution gives the president power to put down an insurrection.

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SSMajinVegeta2
04/24/24 8:18:40 PM
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Life isnt cheaper, more relaxing, or easier to live since Trump was in office. For that alone he cant be the worst lol

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AbsolutelyNoOne
04/24/24 8:38:49 PM
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Many people here have said Reagan is worse than Trump because we've felt 40 years of damages from his presidency and yeah that's a pretty legitimate take I can agree with that. But not even a decade since Trump got elected has been beyond horrifying. I don't even want to think about where we'll be 40 years after he was president, at least not until he and anyone who thinks like him are actually out of power.

I think Trump's insistence on being above the law and creating a dictatorship puts him below Buchanan at this point. It'd be close. Buchanan was an awful fuck. Johnson is 100% 3rd place after them.

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EPR-radar
04/24/24 8:42:10 PM
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Trump. By a mile. We've have evil presidents (Nixon, Reagan, Jackson), incompetent presidents (Buchanan), and evil and incompetent presidents (Andrew Johnson).

Trump gave us something entirely new -- an evil and incompetent president who literally attempted a violent coup in order to illegally stay in office.

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thronedfire2
04/24/24 8:43:55 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
It was an insurrection. The constitution gives the president power to put down an insurrection.

oh, true.

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archizzy
04/24/24 8:44:05 PM
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Absolutely Johnson.

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04/24/24 8:45:11 PM
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EPR-radar posted...
Trump. By a mile. We've have evil presidents (Nixon, Reagan, Jackson), incompetent presidents (Buchanan), and evil and incompetent presidents (Andrew Johnson).

Trump gave us something entirely new -- an evil and incompetent president who literally attempted a violent coup in order to illegally stay in office.
Dude, Jackson literally tried to genocide the entire Native American population and succeeded with some of the them ( -_-)

And as someone who said even the best like FDR committed atrocities, yeah, the fucking Japanese interment camps

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Hyena_Of_Ice
04/24/24 8:50:37 PM
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Fenriswolf posted...
George W Bush is worse than Donald Trump. At least Trump faced fierce resistance, can't say that about GWB who convinced Americans to follow him into two disastrous wars and questioning him would be unpatriotic.

Only due to circumstance. Had Trump been in Dubya's shoes? Yeah, he would have been exponentially worse. He wouldn't have bothered with unity, he would have been standing at the rubble of the towers and blaming the Democrats. He also wouldn't have engaged in nation-building, he would have simply ordered a bomb-and-run, which would have led to far worse destabilization.

legendary_zell posted...
Johnson-Destroyed Reconstruction and our country's one real chance for racial and economic justice. We're still digging out of the hole this guy put us in and may never get out.
Buchanan-Gave up the farm to Southern slave interests, resulting in death and destruction.
Reagan-Completed capitulation to capital, death squads, empowered religious right.
Nixon-Shattered public trust, started creep towards fascism, killed millions, sabotaged peace.
Trump-Corruption, fascism
Bush-Criminal Wars, inflation of financial bubble
Jackson-Genocide

Honorable mention to Wilson for his racism. Honestly, almost all our Presidents have been awful. Even the two "best" ones, FDR and Lincoln did horrible things to people they felt they didn't have to care about.

Wilson did FAR more than that. He also cracked down on civil liberties during WWI and worst of all, HE is the guy who set the precedent for America's warmongering foreign policy. I would place Wilson at #4 and Trump at #3. Nixon should be way down there because he actually did some good things, such as create the EPA and ban chemical and biological weapons. Also, you forgot that Jackson's anti-banking antics contributed to a recession.

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DDP886
04/24/24 9:07:09 PM
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reliving the gimmick for a day

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EPR-radar
04/24/24 9:12:14 PM
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Hyena_Of_Ice posted...
Only due to circumstance. Had Trump been in Dubya's shoes? Yeah, he would have been exponentially worse. He wouldn't have bothered with unity, he would have been standing at the rubble of the towers and blaming the Democrats. He also wouldn't have engaged in nation-building, he would have simply ordered a bomb-and-run, which would have led to far worse destabilization.

This is a major understatement of the shit that would have hit the fan if Trump had been president for 9/11.

1) Trump would have led a pogrom in the US vs. US muslims, in which the "moderates" and a distressing fraction of Democrats would have joined in.

2) Said bomb-and-run would have included use of nuclear weapons.

Trump is a deeply evil man, and we should be thankful he didn't get a chance to fully express that during his awful term in office.


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Umbreon
04/24/24 9:14:36 PM
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Keep in mind that Trump's response to the twin towers falling down was "Now my building is the tallest!"

(It still wasn't)

Trump would have been an utter disaster in Dubya's shoes.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/24/24 9:21:09 PM
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Trump wasnt in W Bushs shoes tho. Hes bad enough, we dont need hypotheticals to make him worse than he is in real life. Jan 6 was awful, but I cannot say its worse than Johnson essentially making US race issues eternal and permanent.

We are still dealing with the consequences of Johnson not stomping out confederate rhetoric. If Trump wins and institutes project 2025, id be more willing to give him the title of worst.

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DDP886
04/24/24 9:22:21 PM
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Obama

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ssb_yunglink2
04/24/24 9:26:36 PM
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DDP886 posted...
Obama
are you not even attempting to have actual discussion

why did you make this topic

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Tyranthraxus
04/24/24 9:38:41 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
are you not even attempting to have actual discussion

why did you make this topic

Like 10 years ago TC would make regular topics that were just "Barack HUSSEIN Obama is the WORST president in HISTORY"

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pjnelson
04/24/24 10:36:27 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/20/presidents-ranking-trump-biden-list

Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest

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