Current Events > Saw image and thought of the 'do you think Israel will cost Biden the election?'

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When the other option is worse, uh yeah abso-fucking-lutely.

The right will always be worse. And we can't change the Dems if that gets them our vote with them just not having to be evil.

So elect the fascists? That's your brilliant plan?

Fuck me, man.

I said earlier, hes part of a crowd which supports trump. He doesnt care about Israel, he only wants trump to win. His actions prove this, not his words

So elect the fascists? That's your brilliant plan?

Fuck me, man.

Whats yours to improve the dems?

I dont support Bidens Israel stance. Im still voting for him because hes better than Trump.

Thats literally all there is to it.

Whats yours to improve the dems?

The Right is always going to be aspiring fascist.

Over and over the battle cry is when can't let the Republicans win. Do you guys suggest we just stay in the state of crappy Dems until we die.

Since voting for them is not changing them if anything they move to the right.

So since what is your plan of getting better outcomes if not by our vote.

The right will always be worse. And we can't change the Dems if that gets them our vote with them just not having to be evil.

Seriously Im very disappointed with CJ. He knows better, at least I thought he did.

all you abstainers need to learn something called games and theory

and no, not video games.

So we should... let the right win to motivate the Dems?

"The Dems aren't doing enough for minorities, and that's why we need to force them to do more, by letting the Republicans win and make our lives worse"

The plan is to push the dems to do better. But with the number of personal attacked that I have gotten just for saying I don't want to support genocide has made it clear . That isn't possible. My white flag is up.

The plan is to push the dems to do better. But with the number of personal attacked that I have gotten cjust for saying I don't want to support genocide has made it clear . That isn't possible. My white flag is up.

If dems don't have to earn your vote. Then they won't do better. But hey its better to have someone who doesn't care about you then someone who hates you.

And yet despite that you're not advocating voting against them each time, every time.

No, people should absolutely attempt to continue moving dems to the left, because they're the only ones who are going to budge. But the fact is the republican party is a lost cause.

Biden's first term has already far surpassed expectations as far as leftist policy goes.

It's certainly not "let the fascists win because the left isn't left enough for me".

Which party is more likely to change their political stances when you reason with them and present facts and data that support your stances?

Because that's who you should be voting for, period.

If dems don't have to earn your vote. Then they won't do better. But hey its better to have someone who doesn't care about you then someone who hates you.

You should respond to this if you want to keep fooling people into believing you're not an alt-right shill

I have talked about the racism and the evilness of the republican party more the anyone on this site. If you think I am alt right shill for not blindly supporting Biden then you don't know who the fuck I am.

If dems don't have to earn your vote. Then they won't do better. But hey its better to have someone who doesn't care about you then someone who hates you.

i am voting for the lesser amount of genocide...

I have talked about the racism and the evilness of the republican party more the anyone on this site. If you think I am alt right shill for not blindly supporting Biden then you don't know who the fuck I am.

If dems don't have to earn your vote. Then they won't do better.

Well that is what Democrats get for jumping over themselves to fix Republicans areas that get harmed.

And yet despite that you're not advocating voting against them each time, every ti

No, people should absolutely attempt to continue moving dems to the left, because they're the only ones who are going to budge. But the fact is the republican party is a lost cause.

Biden's first term has already far surpassed expectations as far as leftist policy goes.

It's certainly not "let the fascists win because the left isn't left enough for me".

Because that's who you should be voting for, period.

Is it though?

You have a very weird interpretation of evilness, considering you're going to bat for Republicans in this very topic every time you claim that voting Biden would be bad.

Enjoy your fake self righteousness. Tagged.

Going to bat for Republicans now that just a fucking lie. I dont even know you and as I said you clearly don't know me.

Going to bat for Republicans now that just a fucking lie. I dont even know you and as I said you clearly don't know me.

And yet you think letting the Republicans win will benefit you in the long run by... teaching the Democrats a lesson?

Just no. This is never acceptable. You start a damn revolution or stage a fucking coup for all I care before accepting genocide. There is no such thing as genocide for the greater good.

You are right . Keep voting to dems no matter what. Not even being sarcastic. Yall won . You changed my minds. It doesn't matter at all what they do or don't do.

Party 1) Doesn't want me to die
Party 2) Tells me to my face that they want to make sure I die

CJ: "Party 1 is never going to move left if they get your vote just by not trying to kill you"

Noted. I'll still tread water for the rest of my life if the alternative is drowning.

Yes. Denying that fact is willful ignorance and nothing less.

*looks at the smoking crater that used to be cj's points*

"Damage assessment: total."

Nope. Shut the fuck up. When you have two options, you always choose the least harm, not abstain because you want no harm.

There's also the option of Biden intervening. I literally just told you this, but your one-track mind just refuses to consider options other than genocide.

Like wtf is going on here. Justification of genocide would lead to instant bans just a few months ago. Is there lead in the water or something?

You have deluded yourself into believing that bombing Palestinians is somehow a necessary part of preventing a Trump reelection. It's complete and utter bullshit. There's no basis for this in reality.

There's also the option of Biden intervening. I literally just told you this, but your one-track mind just refuses to consider options other than genocide.

Like wtf is going on here. Justification of genocide would lead to instant bans just a few months ago. Is there lead in the water or something?

But what if he doesn't? Does that make him worse than Trump for America?

What even is intervening? Do we truly believe cutting support would be enough to sink Israel? Would doing that actually forgive Biden after he went this far?

If there are no good options, what hurts the least? No further thought needed.

What even is intervening? Do we truly believe cutting support would be enough to sink Israel?

The good option is pressuring Biden into changing his stance. I've told you this a hundred times. But for some fucking reason you see throwing Palestinians under the bus as a more preferable option.

And don't tell me it's to elect Biden. Telling people that they have no choice but to accept genocide is about the worst damn campaign message you can send to voters considering abstaining. This is hurting his election chances.

The good option is pressuring Biden into changing his stance.

Reagan did it.

If your pressure means you not voting for him, and therefore you contribute to a Trump victory, did you help or did you make the situation in Israel worse?