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Hornswoggled 04/03/24 4:11:06 PM #1: |
https://gizmodo.com/sonic-original-movie-design-paramount-drama-video-games-1851383994 It's so funny that it's treated as this huge revelation in Hollywood that the fans of something will be nicer to you if you make the characters actually look like the characters from the thing you're adapting from. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 04/03/24 4:14:24 PM #3: |
Even if it were a new IP, that OG design was terrifyingly bad. Dunno how it got greenlit.
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SkittyOnWailord 04/03/24 4:14:56 PM #4: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5d3efcd2.jpg
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Raiden2909 04/03/24 4:15:10 PM #5: |
I can't help but laugh with how toxic, divided and absolutely insane the Sonic fandom and really gaming in general is, that for one brief moment we all come together for a single reason.. and that was to say that the Original Sonic movie design was ass and to change it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 04/03/24 4:15:13 PM #6: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]
I imagine it's been for licensing reasons. Maybe licensing a design is its own expense separate from licensing the IP? --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarcyWarcy 04/03/24 4:17:56 PM #7: |
Ugly Sonic was especially baffling to me because Sega is incredibly controlling of Sonic's design aesthetic in western stuff. I cant imagine someone there didn't have to sign off on the original design for it to get that far.
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Seaman_Prime 04/03/24 4:21:53 PM #8: |
They probably still dont understand that the audiences dont give a shit about all the human stuff ... Copied to Clipboard!
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1337toothbrush 04/03/24 4:24:24 PM #9: |
Seaman_Prime posted...
They probably still dont understand that the audiences dont give a shit about all the human stuffI need the humans or my tiny brain wouldn't be able to relate to the story and would be all confused and lost. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 04/03/24 4:25:39 PM #10: |
I'm still tinfoilhatting that Ugly Sonic was an intentional marketing scheme
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littlebro07 04/03/24 4:30:50 PM #11: |
Ugly Sonic having a cameo in that Chip 'n Dale movie was incredible though so I'm glad it happened >_>
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SpawnShadow 04/03/24 4:32:41 PM #12: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Perhaps when stuff like this happened before the "Ugly Sonic" debacle, the execs figured that the hardcore fans would watch it anyway, regardless of how much they complained, and that the redesign was done to cater toward people in the focus groups who weren't already in the fanbase (with their criticisms of the original design being focused on too much in the redesign phases), in a cynical attempt to maximize profits by getting as many people in to see it as they could, only for it to backfire hard with Sonic when it turned out that a lot of people (both fans and non-fans alike) were utterly disturbed by the resulting uncanny valley abomination? I think then that the lessons they should take from "Ugly Sonic" are that:
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Foppe 04/03/24 4:33:26 PM #13: |
I wanna see the full movie with Ugly Sonic.
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BombermanGold 04/03/24 4:33:47 PM #14: |
Doe posted...
I'm still tinfoilhatting that Ugly Sonic was an intentional marketing scheme Same. The fix was quite fast. --- "I will be your superhero!!!" STEAM ID: BombermanGOLDEN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GATTJT 04/03/24 4:39:29 PM #15: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e14463d4.jpg
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PowerOats 04/03/24 4:49:10 PM #16: |
Don't forget there was also a Ugly Tails BombermanGold posted...
The time between the first design and the current was just over 6 months, that's enough time to change a lot since the set pieces in the 1st movie aren't crazy or complicated ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revisited 04/03/24 4:50:55 PM #17: |
GATTJT posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e14463d4.jpgI know that's korra and shinji (though I don't remember why korra would go insane) but who's the 3rd guy? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 04/03/24 4:53:22 PM #18: |
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though I don't remember why korra would go insane Was it from when she got trapped in the box? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KI_Simpson 04/03/24 4:57:17 PM #19: |
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(though I don't remember why korra would go insane) --- They/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 04/03/24 4:57:56 PM #20: |
SkittyOnWailord posted...
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Turbam 04/03/24 4:58:38 PM #21: |
SkittyOnWailord posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5d3efcd2.jpgHot girl Heaven --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cemith 04/03/24 4:58:46 PM #22: |
Doe posted...
I'm still tinfoilhatting that Ugly Sonic was an intentional marketing scheme Honestly I buy that. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 04/03/24 5:00:19 PM #23: |
I don't believe for one second that it was a marketing gimmick just given how expensive CGI is.
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LonelyStoner 04/03/24 5:01:38 PM #24: |
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Revisited 04/03/24 5:08:14 PM #25: |
KI_Simpson posted... That's dark to be honest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KI_Simpson 04/03/24 5:10:07 PM #26: |
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That's dark to be honest.They moved it to streaming only that season, I think. --- They/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 04/03/24 5:10:14 PM #27: |
Garioshi posted...
I imagine it's been for licensing reasons. Maybe licensing a design is its own expense separate from licensing the IP? This is more or less my assumption as well. Some exec was probably like "if we use this design we owe Sega 50% of toy sales and there's a chance kids buy existing sonic toys, but if use this OTHER original design we only owe SEGA 49% of toy sales and kids won't "accidentally" buy Sega ones. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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specialkid8 04/03/24 5:12:39 PM #28: |
It's really not hard to understand. They wanted a slightly more realistic design so you don't have that reverse uncanny valley feeling where a character looks too much like a cartoon in a live action movie. They wanted something that looked like Rocket Raccoon. They also didn't care about fans because this was a movie made for children, not 40 year old men who grew up playing Sonic. Children are historically not too discerning. But it backfired because 40 year old Sonic fans are...yeah...
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absolutebuffoon 04/03/24 5:13:53 PM #29: |
SkittyOnWailord posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5d3efcd2.jpgNGL that's an improvement over the first design at least ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 04/03/24 5:14:03 PM #30: |
specialkid8 posted...
They also didn't care about fans because this was a movie made for children, not 40 year old men who grew up playing Sonic. Children are historically not too discerning. But it backfired because 40 year old Sonic fans are...yeah...You realize the negative reaction was basically unanimous, yeah? Like, far more than Weird Sonic Dudes were clowning it. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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absolutebuffoon 04/03/24 5:16:39 PM #31: |
specialkid8 posted... It's really not hard to understand. They wanted a slightly more realistic design so you don't have that reverse uncanny valley feeling where a character looks too much like a cartoon in a live action movie. They wanted something that looked like Rocket Raccoon. They also didn't care about fans because this was a movie made for children, not 40 year old men who grew up playing Sonic. Children are historically not too discerning. But it backfired because 40 year old Sonic fans are...yeah...Concerned their replacement design was really weird looking? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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specialkid8 04/03/24 5:18:20 PM #32: |
DrizztLink posted...
You realize the negative reaction was basically unanimous, yeah?It just went viral. Most people didn't give a shit about a Sonic movie to begin with. --- https://i.imgur.com/AUXKMK4.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 04/03/24 5:19:25 PM #33: |
Disaster? It was the most successful marketing gimmick in recent years. It managed to trick people into thinking a mediocre movie was good just because they "fixed" the design.
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Revisited 04/03/24 5:29:41 PM #34: |
Wait are you guys saying that technically James marsden filmed his scenes with ugly sonic? They didn't reshoot the scenes with the good sonic, the true sonic? That is wild if true. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TendoDRM 04/03/24 5:33:00 PM #35: |
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LinkDaLunatic 04/03/24 5:35:50 PM #36: |
Turbam posted...
Hot girl Heavendo we have guptill's official opinion on that pic? --- There's a time and place for everything... but not now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 04/03/24 5:38:49 PM #37: |
I remember the first warning sign were the weird human looking legs in that poster before they even dropped that first trailer. It was so obvious it was gonna be a train wreck.
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MarcyWarcy 04/03/24 5:54:47 PM #38: |
specialkid8 posted...
It's really not hard to understand. They wanted a slightly more realistic design so you don't have that reverse uncanny valley feeling where a character looks too much like a cartoon in a live action movie. They wanted something that looked like Rocket Raccoon. They also didn't care about fans because this was a movie made for children, not 40 year old men who grew up playing Sonic. Children are historically not too discerning. But it backfired because 40 year old Sonic fans are...yeah... the original design is about 100 times more uncanny valley than the end result --- Looks like this gamer's paradise has turned into a gamer's hell............................................... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameGodOfAll 04/03/24 6:00:13 PM #39: |
Turbam posted...
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UnholyMudcrab 04/03/24 6:02:42 PM #40: |
specialkid8 posted...
It's really not hard to understand. They wanted a slightly more realistic design so you don't have that reverse uncanny valley feeling where a character looks too much like a cartoon in a live action movie. They wanted something that looked like Rocket Raccoon. They also didn't care about fans because this was a movie made for children, not 40 year old men who grew up playing Sonic. Children are historically not too discerning. But it backfired because 40 year old Sonic fans are...yeah...You've gone and debased yourself. Why have you done that? --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 04/03/24 6:04:42 PM #41: |
LonelyStoner posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/01f3e718.jpgThis is honestly my favorite part of the whole ugly Sonic thing. His cameo in --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dfranctv 04/03/24 6:08:54 PM #42: |
NoxObscuras posted... This is honestly my favorite part of the whole ugly Sonic thing. His cameo in I remember reading somewhere that they were originally planning to use Jar Jar Binks as a cameo instead of Ugly Sonic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 04/03/24 6:20:01 PM #43: |
dfranctv posted...
I remember reading somewhere that they were originally planning to use Jar Jar Binks as a cameo instead of Ugly Sonic.They abso-fucking-lutely made the right choice. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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