Current Events > American men who attach their masculinity to being able to drive a stick

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I only come across this sort of person on the internet but I assume they exist in real life - either way it's really embarrassing to witness

Im sure your judgement makes you very cool. The very harmless pride men can have about driving stick.

Are you not man enough to handle your stick?

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Im sure your judgement makes you very cool. The very harmless pride men can have about driving stick.

1) yes i am very cool
2) I made this topic because various men on instagram were going out of his way to call people various synonyms for "feeble womanly men" because they drive automatics.
3) why are these guys always sitting in a truck taking a selfie with oakleys on

I guess it's because just about everyone in the UK learns to drive with a manual gearbox. Even the ladies!

So it has no association with masculinity.

well someone needs to buy all those truck nuts

I feel it doesn't happen as much anymore, but it was pretty bad before.

Technology evolves. It's like if people bragged they hand crank their motor to start it way back when. "Using your keys? Pussy!"

Southernfatman posted...

I feel it doesn't happen as much anymore, but it was pretty bad before.

Technology evolves. It's like if people bragged they hand crank their motor to start it way back when. "Using your keys? Pussy!"

Now all the key users think they are practically bathed in testosterone compared to those with a push button start.

I just saw an article that claimed some young Americans are embracing manuals because they are retro.

I much prefer an automatic, but one fucking thing I can't stand is the overengineering of every modern vehicle feature.

I had to scrap my Passat. Why? Because the computer for the electric handbrake malfunctioned, meaning it would cost thousands to get it road legal. All this on a car that doesn't even need a fucking handbrake.

What do you mean? There's no better way for a man to demonstrate him masculinity than to show off his skills at manipulating a long, hard, cylindrical object.

Manuals are better 90% of the time

Also, its not hard to learn how

Is that a thing, I have never seen people link manliness to driving a stick.

Lvaneede posted...

Manuals are better 90% of the time

How aer Manuals better, Automatics are clearly the better choice. You are just adding an extra layer of a non sense to the driving experiences .And many automatics have Manual mode.

Lvaneede posted...

Manuals are better 90% of the time

This was true in the early 90s. It is not true anymore, unless your criteria is cheaper to service (maybe) and you just like the experience.

Lvaneede posted...

Manuals are better 90% of the time

Nah

https://youtu.be/1GjDKRVfG58?si=FS9dEjTkDJ68hoVY

Southernfatman posted...

I feel it doesn't happen as much anymore, but it was pretty bad before.

This. Some people used to get downright judgemental about it.

I've only ever driven one automatic, and I hated it. U guess because here you learn on a manual, and it's what I'm used to by a massive margin, rightly or wrongly I felt like I was missing a big element of control over the vehicle.

pinky0926 posted...

I much prefer an automatic, but one fucking thing I can't stand is the overengineering of every modern vehicle feature.

I had to scrap my Passat. Why? Because the computer for the electric handbrake malfunctioned, meaning it would cost thousands to get it road legal. All this on a car that doesn't even need a fucking handbrake.

There's a growing backlash against that shit. Even worse, are subscription services to use features in a vehicle that you own.

I hate driving I wish self driving cars were fully perfected and completely functional at this point in time.

brestugo posted...

There's a growing backlash against that shit. Even worse, are subscription services to use features in a vehicle that you own.

I saw a video of a locked glove box needing to be opened by navigating to a touch screen display setting. Absolutely hideous.

I follow a couple Japanese importers on Instagram, and they usually have auto Skylines or Supras available, and you'll always get the "ugh only if it's manual" "auto " comments from some bum ass dude in beater

pinky0926 posted...

I saw a video of a locked glove box needing to be opened by navigating to a touch screen display setting. Absolutely hideous.

I saw that vid too. I'm going to be very particular about the tech in my next car. I'm kind of a "car guy" and a lot of people in the forums I read are saying that they're not buying anything after ~2015 rn.

That's kind of the optimal year for balance between new tech and some overengineered money pit.

Lvaneede posted...

Manuals are better 90% of the time

Also, its not hard to learn how

cjsdowg posted...

Is that a thing, I have never seen people link manliness to driving a stick.

How aer Manuals better, Automatics are clearly the better choice. You are just adding an extra layer of a non sense to the driving experiences .And many automatics have Manual mode.

pinky0926 posted...

This was true in the early 90s. It is not true anymore, unless your criteria is cheaper to service (maybe) and you just like the experience.

It's so predictable that every thread about transmissions devolves into this back and forth, every goddamn time. We should all be on the same team, because the powers that be want everyone to have a self driving electric car in the next decade or so.

pinky0926 posted...

I much prefer an automatic, but one fucking thing I can't stand is the overengineering of every modern vehicle feature.

I had to scrap my Passat. Why? Because the computer for the electric handbrake malfunctioned, meaning it would cost thousands to get it road legal. All this on a car that doesn't even need a fucking handbrake.

Yeah one thing I like about my Durango is that it still has a mechanical shifter and parking break, and it's a relatively new vehicle. No dials or buttons or setting the brake in the touchscreen nonsense. What dumb engineer thought that would be a smart idea?? It's not even cost efficient. "YEAH, let's remove the simple, cable operated brake and make it computer controlled with a hundred different points of failure, that's what the customer wants!".

kelemvor posted...

It's so predictable that every thread about transmissions devolves into this back and forth, every goddamn time. We should all be on the same team, because the powers that be want everyone to have a self driving electric car in the next decade or so.

Yeah one thing I like about my Durango is that it still has a mechanical shifter and parking break, and it's a relatively new vehicle. No dials or buttons or setting the brake in the touchscreen nonsense. What dumb engineer thought that would be a smart idea?? It's not even cost efficient. "YEAH, let's remove the simple, cable operated brake and make it computer controlled with a hundred different points of failure, that's what the customer wants!".

If I know anything about engineers, it's that they weren't the driving force behind this cultural change. Some marketing guy was sitting down in a meeting, 3 lines of charlie in and talking about "intuitive functionality" or something like that

I want to learn how just because it seems to make driving more fun.

Once electric cars are the norm your stupid interest in archaic technology will be meaningless so give it up.

Solid_Sonic posted...

I want to learn how just because it seems to make driving more fun.

It's all fun and games until you're stuck in a slow and sporadically moving traffic jam for an hour and the speed of traffic can't figure out if you should be in first or second.

Most cars in Portugal use manual gears.

Hell, I think all drivers license tests use manual gear cars.

shrug. i just like shifting gears. i've only owned manual cars for the 25 years i've been driving.

Seems pretty innocuous, who cares?
I never learned how to use a manual, but being a Hyundai driver, I recently started thinking it'd be nice to have a manual car, just b/c the thieves won't know how to steal the fucking car, then... (-_-)

brestugo posted...

There's a growing backlash against that shit. Even worse, are subscription services to use features in a vehicle that you own.

The "backlash" is pretty useless considering we only keep moving further in the direction of this fucking awful technology. Looking for cars now is horrible, you basically have to pick the one with the fewest intrusive expensive BS and just accept some of it as unavoidable.
One thing I absolutely will not budge on is the god damned touch screen controls. The less I need to use that for, the better. Give me fucking dials and mechanical controls. And if I need to use the touch screen to open the glove box, that car is automatically disqualified.

pinky0926 posted...

It's all fun and games until you're stuck in a slow and sporadically moving traffic jam for an hour and the speed of traffic can't figure out if you should be in first or second.

slow down and coast instead of playing the GAS -> BRAKES -> GAS -> BRAKES -> GAS -> BRAKES game that so many drivers seem to enjoy. when i am stuck in traffic like this, i make a game of seeing how long i can go without touching the brakes.

Giant_Aspirin posted...

slow down and coast instead of playing the GAS -> BRAKES -> GAS -> BRAKES -> GAS -> BRAKES game that so many drivers seem to enjoy. when i am stuck in traffic like this, i make a game of seeing how long i can go without touching the brakes.

That is what I do, and you know what fucking sucks?

Because I do this, I end up leaving a fairly large gap between me and the driver in front. That seems like a good idea - means I coast slowly rather than stopping and starting. And for some fucking reason, some asshole in the next lane over takes this as a signal to move into my lane. Like he thinks because there's a gap it's going to get him there faster.

Solid_Sonic posted...

I want to learn how just because it seems to make driving more fun.

Yeah, same. It's a recent desire of mine. I started to use the paddle shifters in my automatic, but I'd like to learn to drive a real manual.

That being said, I couldn't care less what type of transmission everyone drives, and judging people for it is idiotic.

pinky0926 posted...

Because I do this, I end up leaving a fairly large gap between me and the driver in front. That seems like a good idea - means I coast slowly rather than stopping and starting. And for some fucking reason, some asshole in the next lane over takes this as a signal to move into my lane. Like he thinks because there's a gap it's going to get him there faster.

yeah, that happens. and yeah, it is annoying. but i find it is much less stressful, overall, to continue to coast with a large gap between me and the next car than it is to try and play 'road police' and hug the bumper of the guy in front of me to prevent that from happening.

a significant portion of traffic jams are nothing more than people over braking due to tailgating. it accumulates a little bit with each car in the chain until traffic eventually stops. for no good reason at all. people are just idiots and don't know how to drive.

I wanna get a light up sign that says stop riding my ass, and an anthropomorphized F-150 riding a donkey to put on my rear window that I can turn on when someone is tailgating me.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Im sure your judgement makes you very cool. The very harmless pride men can have about driving stick.

Lol

insecure much??

this topic really triggered the fuck out of you didnt it

mustachedmystic posted...

I just saw an article that claimed some young Americans are embracing manuals because they are retro.

Sounds like marketing disguised as social engineering to me. The last I saw sales on manual cars, they were something like 2% of the entire market, which is the lowest it's ever been in the US.
Lvaneede posted...

Manuals are better 90% of the time

As someone whose primary car is a manual, I disagree. I already don't trust most people to drive safely in an automatic. Additional user inputs are not going to improve that.
pinky0926 posted...

It's all fun and games until you're stuck in a slow and sporadically moving traffic jam for an hour and the speed of traffic can't figure out if you should be in first or second.

I get stuck in traffic like this once a week when my office work day. I default to coasting in 1st, even when there's a 2 car gap ahead of me--you just know there will be bumper-to-bumper stop again in a few seconds.
pinky0926 posted...

Because I do this, I end up leaving a fairly large gap between me and the driver in front. That seems like a good idea - means I coast slowly rather than stopping and starting. And for some fucking reason, some asshole in the next lane over takes this as a signal to move into my lane. Like he thinks because there's a gap it's going to get him there faster.

Everyone who has ever driven a manual has had this experience I think.

For the topic title, I don't browse the sites or places that may have such people acting like that.

Personally, never learned manual (I mean, why? If there's none available and parents and relatives always had automatic? Including driver's education that had no manual cars).
Do I want to? Not really.
Do I care about what others drive? No...

Only thing I care about is making sure to get from Point A to B in one piece without being hit by distracted or accosted by angry road-rage fueled drivers.

I only know one person like that in real life and he's a good friend of mine and I'm pretty sure he's just trolling. So every time that convo comes up, I ask him how he's enjoying his manual in DMV traffic because it is straight booty almost all of the time.

I also call him a grandma driver for how long it takes him to accelerate on side roads while everyone waits for him to shift gears instead of having it almost instant like an automatic

When people say they like the control of a manual what do they mean. With an automatic you can literally go what ever speed you want easier.

I have a vehicle with a 7 speed manual transmission

cjsdowg posted...

When people say they like the control of a manual what do they mean. With an automatic you can literally go what ever speed you want easier.

It's easier to use engine breaking if you're going down a hill and you can downshift when you want to get more torque if you need to accelerate faster to pass someone, for example.

Here in Europe, driving Stick is the norm

I've only known two people who drive Automatic, both were retired old men

Ironically I know more women who drive stick than men.

BewmHedshot posted...

Ironically I know more women who drive stick than men.

Same.