Current Events > Military Age is 17 in Israel?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces

They cannot vote until they are 18.

Why am I bringing this up? News and social media keep reporting behavior that seems immature.

US Military is mostly 17 as well...Where were you going with this topic?

I met a dude in bmt (for us airforce) that was 17 years old

Samurai_Man posted...

US Military is mostly 17 as well...Where were you going with this topic?

because service is compulsory in Israel?

I am from the north and military age here is 18.

Where in the US is it 17?

Samurai_Man posted...

US Military is mostly 17 as well...Where were you going with this topic

What I said. Israel says they are mature enough to vote.

CobraGT posted...

I am from the north and military age here is 18.

Where in the US is it 17?

All branches you can sign up for the military at 17 with parental consent in the US. I signed up for the Navy at 17 and my dad signed.

archizzy posted...

All branches you can sign up for the military at 17 with parental consent in the US. I signed up for the Navy at 17 and my dad signed.

A few of the branches let you go to boot camp during the summer before your senior year, and then go to AIT/A-school when you graduate.

CobraGT posted...

I am from the north and military age here is 18.

Where in the US is it 17?

Each branch of the military has age limits to enlist in active duty:

• Air Force: 17 - 39
• Army: 17 - 35
• Coast Guard: 17 - 31
• Marine Corps: 17 - 28
• Navy: 17 - 39
• Space Force: 17 - 39

Some of that appears to be with parental consent, but not every branch

Israel not only has active and ongoing conscription of 17 year olds: you will be called back to duty after serving your time.

In the US afaik returning to service is voluntary.

Gotta get them young so they are easily indoctrinated.

CobraGT posted...

Israel not only has active and ongoing conscription of 17 year olds: you will be called back to duty after serving your time.

In the US afaik returning to service is voluntary.

Unless you are retired, or if you are in IRR, than you can be recalled to active duty,

CobraGT posted...

Israel not only has active and ongoing conscription of 17 year olds: you will be called back to duty after serving your time.

In the US afaik returning to service is voluntary.

Idk how similar this is to Israel but the USA has the Individual Ready Reserve that military members are obliged to for 8 years. The countdown starts ticking the moment one enters the Delayed Enlistment Program iirc. So you can enlist for 3-6 years, leave, and still be recalled within 2-5 years. Chances to be recalled are close to 0 for now though.

archizzy posted...

I signed up for the Navy at 17 and my dad signed.

What was your rate?

Ratchetrockon posted...

The countdown starts ticking the moment one enters the Delayed Enlistment Program iirc.

It does. I was in DEP for a year, so I only needed 3 years of IRR after active duty.

mystic_belmont posted...

It does. I was in DEP for a year, so I only needed 3 years of IRR after active duty.

ahh ok im glad my memory is not off. I was in DEP for around 6 months or so. So had about 3.5 years of IRR. I got a bit paranoid when those ww3 memes were popular around 2 years ago since I was still in IRR at that time lol. by mid 2023 i was off the hook.

Lonestar2000 posted...

Gotta get them young so they are easily indoctrinated.

I don't know that Israel really needs the help with indoctrination.

mystic_belmont posted...

What was your rate?

When I entered it was Machinist Mate (Nuclear) but I got out of the Nuclear side and went Gas Turbine Mechanic.

archizzy posted...

When I entered it was Machinist Mate (Nuclear) but I got out of the Nuclear side and went Gas Turbine Mechanic.

Engineering is rough.

I came in as a CTO, but was re-rated as an IT (it's a long story).

thronedfire2 posted...

because service is compulsory in Israel?

Democratic countries with neighbors trying to murder them -- like Israel, South Korea, and Finland -- need conscription to maintain a strong army at all times no matter what.
Those in the U.S. and Canada have no idea how utterly blessed we are to not have such existential concerns.

Lonestar2000 posted...

Gotta get them young so they are easily indoctrinated.

That's how literally every military on the planet works, yes.

CobraGT posted...

Israel not only has active and ongoing conscription of 17 year olds: you will be called back to duty after serving your time.

In the US afaik returning to service is voluntary.

When you leave service in the U.S., unless you're retiring (20+ years in, getting pension, etc..), you go into the Ready Reserve for ~ 4 years and can be called back to service. It's probably similar in most militaries. Potential life-or-death situations occurring require contingency planning...

streamofthesky posted...

Democratic countries with neighbors trying to murder them -- like Israel, South Korea, and Finland -- need conscription to maintain a strong army at all times no matter what.
Those in the U.S. and Canada have no idea how utterly blessed we are to not have such existential concerns.

That's how literally every military on the planet works, yes.

When you leave service in the U.S., unless you're retiring (20+ years in, getting pension, etc..), you go into the Ready Reserve for ~ 4 years and can be called back to service. It's probably similar in most militaries. Potential life-or-death situations occurring require contingency planning...

those other countries also make sure their veterans are educated and dont end up homeless