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Glob posted...

Why would that be an unpopular opinion?

Dunno, lots of people seem to hate seafood.

Heptade posted...

Dunno, lots of people seem to hate seafood.

Their loss. Seafood is great.

Fried calamari is overrated.

Japanties posted...

I know a lot of 30-somethings who claim to be foodies, yet all they go out for are elevated burgers, tacos, pizza, and ramen. Sad state of the world if being a food lover means that you only eat fancy trash.

I'll kinda sorta agree with your point about elevated burger places. It's the same shit every time. Vertical ass, over-seasoned, vertical ass burgers where all the decorations are "rustic" and the music playing is Arcade Fire or The Weeknd, or anything in between. Shit is overrated, tbh.

But if we mean "elevated" in the same way then I can't say the same for ramen. There's some really good, kinda expensive Japanese places in my city that have the best ramen ever.

Like, the black garlic oil ramen from Kiwami is to die for. You can't try that and talk shit about it, man.
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Glob posted...

Their loss. Seafood is great.

It really is. Most of my family hates it. They're boring people, lol.

Celery is disgusting.

Revelation34 posted...

Fried calamari is overrated.

Definitely. Grilled calamari is superior.

The best Korean food you can eat isn't in South Korea. It's in Los Angeles. Being in the country of origin for a dish doesn't inherently give it a boost. I've had plenty of Korean and Japanese dishes in Cali that have rivaled or beaten the experiences I've had in Korea/Japan.

SailorGoon posted...

The best Korean food you can eat isn't in South Korea. It's in Los Angeles. Being in the country of origin for a dish doesn't inherently give it a boost. I've had plenty of Korean and Japanese dishes in Cali that have rivaled or beaten the experiences I've had in Korea/Japan.

While Ill agree that the absolute best of any cuisine isnt necessarily found in its home country, I think the average standard tends to be higher in the home country by a considerable margin.

tankboy posted...

Definitely. Grilled calamari is superior.

Yeah and it's impossible to find pretty much. I had it once at a seafood restaurant when I was like 14 or so and haven't found it since.

Revelation34 posted...

Yeah and it's impossible to find pretty much. I had it once at a seafood restaurant when I was like 14 or so and haven't found it since.

I see it a fair bit. Maybe its a regional thing?

Glob posted...

I see it a fair bit. Maybe its a regional thing?

Definitely wouldn't be here in this state but I was surprised it wasn't available more in California.

Glob posted...

While Ill agree that the absolute best of any cuisine isnt necessarily found in its home country, I think the average standard tends to be higher in the home country by a considerable margin.

I'd disagree with that. There's considerably more Korean restaurants in Korea. The competitive aspects become price, convenience, availability, etc. 100 restaurants within a kilometer radius. 10 of them absolutely phenomenal, 10 of them dogshit, and the rest are aight. Meanwhile back home there's like 10, but only 1 being noticeably awful and 1 worth raving about. Ratio is the same.

Foreign restaurants typically have to be really good in order to last in the states. Especially if they're niche cuisines. They don't last if they're not profitable. I've seen plenty of shitty Japanese restaurants open up back home and here in Korea. It sorts itself out. The bad ones shut down more often than not

SailorGoon posted...

I'd disagree with that. There's considerably more Korean restaurants in Korea. The competitive aspects become price, convenience, availability, etc. 100 restaurants within a kilometer radius. 10 of them absolutely phenomenal, 10 of them dogshit, and the rest are aight. Meanwhile back home there's like 10, but only 1 being noticeably awful and 1 worth raving about. Ratio is the same.

Foreign restaurants typically have to be really good in order to last in the states. Especially if they're niche cuisines. They don't last if they're not profitable. I've seen plenty of shitty Japanese restaurants open up back home and here in Korea. It sorts itself out. The bad ones shut down more often than not

Profitability and quality arent the same. Theres restaurants that make money but arent good in every country. Im not sure why you think it would be different in the states. Ive certainly not been blown away by the quality of the food whenever Ive been there.

The example I was thinking of though, was pho.

Its everywhere here, and while some are certainly better than others, Id say Ive never had one here that was below a 7/10 and its easy enough to get. 10/10. Eating the dish abroad in a number of different countries, its very rare to get one that is as high in my estimation as the base level for here.

Of course, its all subjective to a large degree.

Glob posted...

Profitability and quality arent the same. Theres restaurants that make money but arent good in every country. Im not sure why you think it would be different in the states. Ive certainly not been blown away by the quality of the food whenever Ive been there.

The example I was thinking of though, was pho.

Its everywhere here, and while some are certainly better than others, Id say Ive never had one here that was below a 7/10 and its easy enough to get. 10/10. Eating the dish abroad in a number of different countries, its very rare to get one that is as high in my estimation as the base level for here.

Of course, its all subjective to a large degree.

Well that's going to be obvious. It would be impossible to have a dish in a foreign country be better than a dish in its native country.

Revelation34 posted...

Well that's going to be obvious. It would be impossible to have a dish in a foreign country be better than a dish in its native country.

Impossible? No.

But I feel that maybe you havent actually read the posts leading up to this.

Glob posted...

Impossible? No.

But I feel that maybe you havent actually read the posts leading up to this.

I'm talking about the best of the best vs the best of the best.

Glob posted...

Profitability and quality arent the same. Theres restaurants that make money but arent good in every country. Im not sure why you think it would be different in the states. Ive certainly not been blown away by the quality of the food whenever Ive been there.

The example I was thinking of though, was pho.

Its everywhere here, and while some are certainly better than others, Id say Ive never had one here that was below a 7/10 and its easy enough to get. 10/10. Eating the dish abroad in a number of different countries, its very rare to get one that is as high in my estimation as the base level for here.

Of course, its all subjective to a large degree.

There is a strong correlation between profitability and quality unless we're talking fast food in which case the product is not the food itself but the convenience.

In order for something to sell well, especially in these unprecedented times of inflation, it needs to be good. I did a brief stint in Laos and yeah good pho, was all around, but nothing there tasted like something I couldn't get in Westminster. I have to admit my bias as I grew up in a cultural melting pot with plenty of 1st gen immigrants. Let me refrain my point. It's not the place that matters, it's the people.
Mans has never been to Westminster.

Revelation34 posted...

I'm talking about the best of the best vs the best of the best.

You'd still be wrong. I'm Mexican living in Korea. Good Mexican food is hard to come by but not impossible. I've had some Tacos in Seoul that rival what I can get in Mexico. The owner is half Mexican himself, and all the staff are immigrants. Everything is made from scratch scratch. Like, they're aren't buying masa harina, they're drying out the corn and grinding it themselves.

SailorGoon posted...

There is a strong correlation between profitability and quality unless we're talking fast food in which case the product is not the food itself but the convenience.

In order for something to sell well, especially in these unprecedented times of inflation, it needs to be good. I did a brief stint in Laos and yeah good pho, was all around, but nothing there tasted like something I couldn't get in Westminster. I have to admit my bias as I grew up in a cultural melting pot with plenty of 1st gen immigrants. Let me refrain my point. It's not the place that matters, it's the people.
Mans has never been to Westminster.

What are you talking about?

I simply dont agree that something has to be good to be profitable. I dont think well ever see eye to eye on that front.

However, I do agree that its the people that matter. However, youre generally going to find the largest amount of people who are passionate about any given cuisine in the place that cuisine originated from. There might be a few exceptions here and there. Thats why Id say that the average is better there. It follows logically and is consistent with my experiences.

Revelation34 posted...

I'm talking about the best of the best vs the best of the best.

Youd be wrong. If, for example, you were to look into the best Indian restaurants in the world, youd find that theres just as high a concentration of serious contenders in London as there are in India, and that Paris and New York each have strong contenders too.

If Prego tastes the same as authentic sauce made by an Italian grandmother, then your sense of taste is broken.