Palestina War XIII - Lets steal some more land from the West Bank

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SHRlKE 03/26/24 2:05:08 PM #451:	bkilla posted... Egypt has a border too. Let's be accurate. Anyways, Hamas has rejected another ceasefire offer (6 weeks, 40 Israelis for 700 terrorist exchange), so the Rafah incursion should be starting soon. Did Hamas give a reason for not accepting it? Yesterday I heard they were happy to have a ceasefire. --- Come join us at the Sudoku + Other Pencil Puzzles Community Board. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1572-sudoku-plus-other-pencil-puzzles <cite>SHRlKE posted [p:979573883] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>Egypt has a border too. Let's be accurate. Anyways, Hamas has rejected another ceasefire offer (6 weeks, 40 Israelis for 700 terrorist exchange), so the Rafah incursion should be starting soon.</quote>Did Hamas give a reason for not accepting it? Yesterday I heard they were happy to have a ceasefire. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 03/26/24 2:09:13 PM #452:	SHRlKE posted... Did Hamas give a reason for not accepting it? Yesterday I heard they were happy to have a ceasefire. That deal that they rejected was before the UNSC resolution that passed yesterday. They've also been clear that they don't want to deal unless it's an immediate and lasting ceasefire which includes an immediate and unconditional release of hostages on both sides. The proposal that was rejected before yesterday was a 6 week pause conditionally based on hostage exchange. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:979573949] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>SHRlKE posted... </cite><quote>Did Hamas give a reason for not accepting it? Yesterday I heard they were happy to have a ceasefire.</quote>That deal that they rejected was before the UNSC resolution that passed yesterday. They've also been clear that they don't want to deal unless it's an immediate and lasting ceasefire which includes an immediate and unconditional release of hostages on both sides. The proposal that was rejected before yesterday was a 6 week pause conditionally based on hostage exchange.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHRlKE 03/26/24 3:38:51 PM #453:	Ok great. Still hope then. --- Come join us at the Sudoku + Other Pencil Puzzles Community Board. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1572-sudoku-plus-other-pencil-puzzles <cite>SHRlKE posted [p:979575382] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Ok great. Still hope then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zoks 03/26/24 5:33:36 PM #454:	bkilla posted... Egypt has a border too. Let's be accurate. Anyways, Hamas has rejected another ceasefire offer (6 weeks, 40 Israelis for 700 terrorist exchange), so the Rafah incursion should be starting soon. Egypt doesn't decide what goes in and out Gaza, Israel does. That means Israel controls the border. Now can Egypt "control" the border? Sure, if they are willing to risk a war with Israel because they don't want certain things going into Gaza. --- Who Dat? https://www.deviantart.com/fuee/art/Zoks-810047183 <cite>Zoks posted [p:979577275] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>Egypt has a border too. Let's be accurate. Anyways, Hamas has rejected another ceasefire offer (6 weeks, 40 Israelis for 700 terrorist exchange), so the Rafah incursion should be starting soon.</quote>Egypt doesn't decide what goes in and out Gaza, Israel does. That means Israel controls the border. Now can Egypt "control" the border? Sure, if they are willing to risk a war with Israel because they don't want certain things going into Gaza. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 5:39:49 PM #455:	Zoks posted... Egypt doesn't decide what goes in and out Gaza, Israel does. That means Israel controls the border. Now can Egypt "control" the border? Sure, if they are willing to risk a war with Israel because they don't want certain things going into Gaza. Israel and Egypt work together to control the Muslim Brotherhood offshoot "Hamas". No Musliim majority country wants Palestinians in their country (Jordan, SA, Lebanon etc.) and especially not Egypt. --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979577395] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Zoks posted... </cite><quote>Egypt doesn't decide what goes in and out Gaza, Israel does. That means Israel controls the border. Now can Egypt "control" the border? Sure, if they are willing to risk a war with Israel because they don't want certain things going into Gaza.</quote>Israel and Egypt work together to control the Muslim Brotherhood offshoot "Hamas". No Musliim majority country wants Palestinians in their country (Jordan, SA, Lebanon etc.) and especially not Egypt. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHRlKE 03/26/24 5:42:11 PM #456:	bkilla posted... Israel and Egypt work together to control the Muslim Brotherhood offshoot "Hamas". No Musliim majority country wants Palestinians in their country (i.e. Jordan) and especially not Egypt. Why should they need to though? Why should Palestinians need to flee their own fucking homeland. Imagine the furore if someone suggested Israelis should evacuate Israel to escape from Hamas. Its completely obscene. --- Come join us at the Sudoku + Other Pencil Puzzles Community Board. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1572-sudoku-plus-other-pencil-puzzles <cite>SHRlKE posted [p:979577452] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>Israel and Egypt work together to control the Muslim Brotherhood offshoot "Hamas". No Musliim majority country wants Palestinians in their country (i.e. Jordan) and especially not Egypt.</quote>Why should they need to though? Why should Palestinians need to flee their own fucking homeland. Imagine the furore if someone suggested Israelis should evacuate Israel to escape from Hamas. Its completely obscene. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 03/26/24 5:43:30 PM #457:	You're just want to absolve Israel responsibility on this war User Info: bkilla ? Block User Since: Sep 2002 Karma: 7331 *Active Posts: 5* Total Badges: 214 Whose shameless alt is this? --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:979577482] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>You're just want to absolve Israel responsibility on this warUser Info: bkilla ? Block User Since: Sep 2002Karma: 7331Active Posts: 5Total Badges: 214Whose shameless alt is this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 5:46:23 PM #458:	SHRlKE posted... Why should they need to though? Why should Palestinians need to flee their own fucking homeland. Imagine the furore if someone suggested Israelis should evacuate Israel to escape from Hamas. Its completely obscene. I was speaking to the assumption many make that only Israel controls Gazan borders, not whether Palestinians ought to be forced out of their land. --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979577533] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>SHRlKE posted... </cite><quote>Why should they need to though? Why should Palestinians need to flee their own fucking homeland. Imagine the furore if someone suggested Israelis should evacuate Israel to escape from Hamas. Its completely obscene.</quote>I was speaking to the assumption many make that only Israel controls Gazan borders, not whether Palestinians ought to be forced out of their land. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/26/24 5:50:03 PM #459:	bkilla posted... Israel and Egypt work together to control the Muslim Brotherhood offshoot "Hamas". No Musliim majority country wants Palestinians in their country (Jordan, SA, Lebanon etc.) and especially not Egypt. Which kinda makes your point completely fuckin' irrelevant, doesn't it? --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979577601] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>Israel and Egypt work together to control the Muslim Brotherhood offshoot "Hamas". No Musliim majority country wants Palestinians in their country (Jordan, SA, Lebanon etc.) and especially not Egypt.</quote>Which kinda makes your point completely fuckin' irrelevant, doesn't it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 5:50:04 PM #460:	Ricemills posted... You're just want to absolve Israel responsibility on this war Hamas has: 1-Killed 1200 2-ped dozens of women and girls 3-Took hostages 4-50-70% support Hamas What did you think would happen? This is a war. --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979577603] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>You're just want to absolve Israel responsibility on this war</quote>Hamas has:1-Killed 12002-ped dozens of women and girls3-Took hostages4-50-70% support HamasWhat did you think would happen? This is a war. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/26/24 5:50:58 PM #461:	bkilla posted... Hamas has: 1-Killed 1200 2-*ped dozens of women and girls 3-Took hostages 4-50-70% support Hamas What did you think would happen? This is a war. Oooh, are we comparing body counts and atrocities? Because that's not* going to go well for you. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979577626] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>Hamas has:1-Killed 12002-**ped dozens of women and girls3-Took hostages4-50-70% support HamasWhat did you think would happen? This is a war.</quote>Oooh, are we comparing body counts and atrocities?Because that's not going to go well for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 03/26/24 5:51:18 PM #462:	https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_Border_Crossing >Egypt controls the crossing but imports through the Rafah crossing require Israeli approval >In October 2023 with the start of the 2023 IsraelHamas war, the crossing was again effectively sealed. Various sources reported that for several weeks, the Egyptian government had refused to allow either Gazans or foreign nationals to exit Gaza via the Rafah crossing,[54][55] despite intensive international efforts to secure a window of time for the Rafah crossing to open to foreigners who want to exit the Strip.[56][57][58] However, the Egyptian government, maintains that it has always kept the Rafah Border Crossing open for humanitarian aid coming in and foreign nationals coming out during the IsraelHamas war, instead blaming four consecutive Israeli air strikes on the Gazan side for keeping the border crossing closed.[59][55] On 21 October, the border opened for humanitarian aid to enter Gaza.[60] On 1 November, a limited number of foreign nationals and wounded began being allowed to use the crossing to exit Gaza. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:979577631] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_Border_Crossing>Egypt controls the crossing but imports through the Rafah crossing require Israeli approval>In October 2023 with the start of the 2023 IsraelHamas war, the crossing was again effectively sealed. Various sources reported that for several weeks, the Egyptian government had refused to allow either Gazans or foreign nationals to exit Gaza via the Rafah crossing,[54][55] despite intensive international efforts to secure a window of time for the Rafah crossing to open to foreigners who want to exit the Strip.[56][57][58] However, the Egyptian government, maintains that it has always kept the Rafah Border Crossing open for humanitarian aid coming in and foreign nationals coming out during the IsraelHamas war, instead blaming four consecutive Israeli air strikes on the Gazan side for keeping the border crossing closed.[59][55] On 21 October, the border opened for humanitarian aid to enter Gaza.[60] On 1 November, a limited number of foreign nationals and wounded began being allowed to use the crossing to exit Gaza. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 03/26/24 5:51:23 PM #463:	Ricemills posted... You're just want to absolve Israel responsibility on this war User Info: bkilla ? Block User Since: Sep 2002 Karma: 7331 *Active Posts: 5* Total Badges: 214 Whose shameless alt is this? He was someone from 261 who's familiar with getting time-outs. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979577634] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>You're just want to absolve Israel responsibility on this warUser Info: bkilla ? Block User Since: Sep 2002Karma: 7331Active Posts: 5Total Badges: 214Whose shameless alt is this?</quote>He was someone from 261 who's familiar with getting time-outs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 03/26/24 5:51:58 PM #464:	bkilla posted... Hamas has: 1-Killed 1200 2-ped dozens of women and girls 3-Took hostages 4-50-70% support Hamas What did you think would happen? This is a war. Another lunatic that thinks all Palestinian are Hamas. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:979577649] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>Hamas has:1-Killed 12002-ped dozens of women and girls3-Took hostages4-50-70% support HamasWhat did you think would happen? This is a war.</quote>Another lunatic that thinks all Palestinian are Hamas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 03/26/24 5:52:53 PM #465:	DnDer posted... He was someone from 261 who's familiar with getting time-outs. Another fucking 261er. They always bring toxicity to CE --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:979577670] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>He was someone from 261 who's familiar with getting time-outs.</quote>Another fucking 261er.They always bring toxicity to CE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 03/26/24 5:53:11 PM #466:	Ricemills posted... Another lunatic that thinks all Palestinian are Hamas. "I can't believe that the people being genocided would mostly support the military that is fighting their enemy. This makes them accountable!" --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:979577673] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>Another lunatic that thinks all Palestinian are Hamas.</quote>"I can't believe that the people being genocided would mostly support the military that is fighting their enemy. This makes them accountable!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 5:53:37 PM #467:	DrizztLink posted... Oooh, are we comparing body counts and atrocities? Because that's not going to go well for you. The body count is often irrelevant. As someone said (can't remember), "many more Germans civilians died (at the hands of the British) in WW2 than British civilians. That doesn't mean the British were the bad guys during that conflict. And as I said, 50-70% of Palestinians support Oct 7th and Hamas. --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979577684] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>Oooh, are we comparing body counts and atrocities?Because that's not going to go well for you.</quote>The body count is often irrelevant. As someone said (can't remember), "many more Germans civilians died (at the hands of the British) in WW2 than British civilians. That doesn't mean the British were the bad guys during that conflict. And as I said, 50-70% of Palestinians support Oct 7th and Hamas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 03/26/24 5:53:39 PM #468:	I was feeling better for almost a day when the ceasefire vote passed. The threat to democracy should be in everyone's awareness although there is no reason to lose sleep over it. It just hurts --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:979577685] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>I was feeling better for almost a day when the ceasefire vote passed.The threat to democracy should be in everyone's awareness although there is no reason to lose sleep over it. It just hurts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tb333 03/26/24 5:53:59 PM #469:	Ricemills posted... You're just want to absolve Israel responsibility on this war User Info: bkilla ? Block User Since: Sep 2002 Karma: 7331 *Active Posts: 5* Total Badges: 214 Whose shameless alt is this? Probably eagles. --- "Im sorry please come back" Humanity to Natural Selection <cite>tb333 posted [p:979577690] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>You're just want to absolve Israel responsibility on this warUser Info: bkilla ? Block User Since: Sep 2002Karma: 7331Active Posts: 5Total Badges: 214Whose shameless alt is this?</quote>Probably eagles. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/26/24 5:57:04 PM #470:	bkilla posted... The body count is often irrelevant. Huh, that's an odd sentiment coming from the guy who literally just posted bkilla posted... Hamas has: 1-Killed 1200 2-ped dozens of women and girls 3-Took hostages 4-50-70% support Hamas What did you think would happen? This is a war. this shit. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979577746] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>The body count is often irrelevant.</quote>Huh, that's an odd sentiment coming from the guy who literally just postedbkilla posted... </cite><quote>Hamas has:1-Killed 12002-ped dozens of women and girls3-Took hostages4-50-70% support HamasWhat did you think would happen? This is a war.</quote>this shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 03/26/24 5:57:17 PM #471:	bkilla posted... 4-50-70% support Hamas Sorry, what? You're deliberately misrepresenting statistics about that. Support for Hamas as a political party has fallen to 34% among Palestinians in Gaza and the occupied West Bank, a 12-point drop from December 2023, according to a poll released Wednesday by a leading Palestinian research institute. While the war is eroding Palestinians view of Hamas as the governing body in Gaza, relative support remains high for the militant groups role in the war. Seventy percent of Palestinians said they were satisfied with Hamas war performance, as compared to that of other Palestinian entities, like its political rival Fatah, whose deeply unpopular leader, Mahmoud Abbas, governs the West Bank. SOURCE: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gazans-back-two-state-solution-rcna144183 --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979577749] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>4-50-70% support Hamas</quote>Sorry, what?You're deliberately misrepresenting statistics about that.<quote>Support for Hamas as a political party has fallen to 34% among Palestinians in Gaza and the occupied West Bank, a 12-point drop from December 2023, according to a poll released Wednesday by a leading Palestinian research institute. While the war is eroding Palestinians view of Hamas as the governing body in Gaza, relative support remains high for the militant groups role in the war. Seventy percent of Palestinians said they were satisfied with Hamas war performance, as compared to that of other Palestinian entities, like its political rival Fatah, whose deeply unpopular leader, Mahmoud Abbas, governs the West Bank.</quote>SOURCE: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gazans-back-two-state-solution-rcna144183 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zoks 03/26/24 5:57:22 PM #472:	bkilla posted... Israel and Egypt work together to control the Muslim Brotherhood offshoot "Hamas". No Musliim majority country wants Palestinians in their country (Jordan, SA, Lebanon etc.) and especially not Egypt. Do you just parrot what you saw on Reddit and think it's true? Jordan unlike the rest of the countries naturalized most of the Palestinian refugees. What is always getting kicked out is not the Palestinian people, but the PLO, who were a militant group at the time. Generally speaking you don't want a militia hell bent on starting a war with another country that you do not want to start in your borders. As for Lebanon and Egypt, each have their own reasons for not wanting Palestinians. Lebanon because they have their own delicate power balance to maintain, and a foreign population would not help, and Egypt because they have overpopulation concerns as it is. Or do you not know about the Ethiopia/Egypt beef that's going on? Egypt cannot take in massive Palestinian refugees. --- Who Dat? https://www.deviantart.com/fuee/art/Zoks-810047183 <cite>Zoks posted [p:979577751] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>Israel and Egypt work together to control the Muslim Brotherhood offshoot "Hamas". No Musliim majority country wants Palestinians in their country (Jordan, SA, Lebanon etc.) and especially not Egypt.</quote>Do you just parrot what you saw on Reddit and think it's true? Jordan unlike the rest of the countries naturalized most of the Palestinian refugees. What is always getting kicked out is not the Palestinian people, but the PLO, who were a militant group at the time. Generally speaking you don't want a militia hell bent on starting a war with another country that you do not want to start in your borders. As for Lebanon and Egypt, each have their own reasons for not wanting Palestinians. Lebanon because they have their own delicate power balance to maintain, and a foreign population would not help, and Egypt because they have overpopulation concerns as it is. Or do you not know about the Ethiopia/Egypt beef that's going on? Egypt cannot take in massive Palestinian refugees. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 03/26/24 5:58:41 PM #473:	Ricemills posted... Another fucking 261er. They always bring toxicity to CE Painting with a broad brush there, chief. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979577780] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>Another fucking 261er.They always bring toxicity to CE</quote>Painting with a broad brush there, chief. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 6:02:29 PM #474:	DnDer posted... Sorry, what? You're deliberately misrepresenting statistics about that. SOURCE: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gazans-back-two-state-solution-rcna144183 That's a new poll. Good to see support falling. --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979577846] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Sorry, what?You're deliberately misrepresenting statistics about that.SOURCE: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gazans-back-two-state-solution-rcna144183</quote>That's a new poll. Good to see support falling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 03/26/24 6:02:49 PM #475:	bkilla posted... The body count is often irrelevant. As someone said (can't remember), "many more Germans civilians died (at the hands of the British) in WW2 than British civilians. That doesn't mean the British were the bad guys during that conflict. And as I said, 50-70% of Palestinians support Oct 7th and Hamas. The important details you're missing is that just because Germany were beyond a doubt bad guys, doesn't mean anyone fighting against them is automatically good guys. War can be, and often is, two bad guys (one of whom very well may be worse than the other, but both still bad) rather than a good guy and a bad guy. Even when one side has a legitimate reason to fight a war, they can still be the bad guys depending on their conduct in it. One of the few exceptions to come to mind is the Russia-Ukraine war, where Ukraine are definitely good guys (at least so far; that would change if they started targeting or disregarding Russian civilians). --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979577850] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>The body count is often irrelevant. As someone said (can't remember), "many more Germans civilians died (at the hands of the British) in WW2 than British civilians. That doesn't mean the British were the bad guys during that conflict. And as I said, 50-70% of Palestinians support Oct 7th and Hamas.</quote>The important details you're missing is that just because Germany were beyond a doubt bad guys, doesn't mean anyone fighting against them is automatically good guys. War can be, and often is, two bad guys (one of whom very well may be worse than the other, but both still bad) rather than a good guy and a bad guy. Even when one side has a legitimate reason to fight a war, they can still be the bad guys depending on their conduct in it. One of the few exceptions to come to mind is the Russia-Ukraine war, where Ukraine are definitely good guys (at least so far; that would change if they started targeting or disregarding Russian civilians). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 6:07:00 PM #476:	Zoks posted... Do you just parrot what you saw on Reddit and think it's true? Jordan unlike the rest of the countries naturalized most of the Palestinian refugees. What is always getting kicked out is not the Palestinian people, but the PLO, who were a militant group at the time. Generally speaking you don't want a militia hell bent on starting a war with another country that you do not want to start in your borders. As for Lebanon and Egypt, each have their own reasons for not wanting Palestinians. Lebanon because they have their own delicate power balance to maintain, and a foreign population would not help, and Egypt because they have overpopulation concerns as it is. Or do you not know about the Ethiopia/Egypt beef that's going on? Egypt cannot take in massive Palestinian refugees. Maybe because Palestinians supported Saddam Hussain during his invasion of Kuwait, supported the attempted revolution in Jordan and killing of their king, and supported Muslim brotherhood terrorism in Egypt and Lebanon? Could it be for those reasons? hmm... --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979577923] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Zoks posted... </cite><quote>Do you just parrot what you saw on Reddit and think it's true? Jordan unlike the rest of the countries naturalized most of the Palestinian refugees. What is always getting kicked out is not the Palestinian people, but the PLO, who were a militant group at the time. Generally speaking you don't want a militia hell bent on starting a war with another country that you do not want to start in your borders. As for Lebanon and Egypt, each have their own reasons for not wanting Palestinians. Lebanon because they have their own delicate power balance to maintain, and a foreign population would not help, and Egypt because they have overpopulation concerns as it is. Or do you not know about the Ethiopia/Egypt beef that's going on? Egypt cannot take in massive Palestinian refugees.</quote>Maybe because Palestinians supported Saddam Hussain during his invasion of Kuwait, supported the attempted revolution in Jordan and killing of their king, and supported Muslim brotherhood terrorism in Egypt and Lebanon? Could it be for those reasons? hmm... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/26/24 6:19:41 PM #477:	bkilla posted... Maybe because Palestinians supported Saddam Hussain during his invasion of Kuwait, supported the attempted revolution in Jordan and killing of their king, and supported Muslim brotherhood terrorism in Egypt and Lebanon? Could it be for those reasons? hmm... DrizztLink posted... What did you think would happen? This is a war. Your double standards are showing. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979578132] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>Maybe because Palestinians supported Saddam Hussain during his invasion of Kuwait, supported the attempted revolution in Jordan and killing of their king, and supported Muslim brotherhood terrorism in Egypt and Lebanon? Could it be for those reasons? hmm...</quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>What did you think would happen? This is a war.</quote>Your double standards are showing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoMeLx22x 03/26/24 6:20:37 PM #478:	bkilla posted... Maybe because Palestinians supported Saddam Hussain during his invasion of Kuwait, supported the attempted revolution in Jordan and killing of their king, and supported Muslim brotherhood terrorism in Egypt and Lebanon? Could it be for those reasons? hmm... A massive majority of the USA supported the Vietnam and the Iraq wars. Does that mean it's okay for someone to hold our civilian population under siege, starve them, and continously bomb and kill them? You're not actually making any point at all. --- Sigs are for losers. <cite>NoMeLx22x posted [p:979578150] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>Maybe because Palestinians supported Saddam Hussain during his invasion of Kuwait, supported the attempted revolution in Jordan and killing of their king, and supported Muslim brotherhood terrorism in Egypt and Lebanon? Could it be for those reasons? hmm...</quote>A massive majority of the USA supported the Vietnam and the Iraq wars. Does that mean it's okay for someone to hold our civilian population under siege, starve them, and continously bomb and kill them?You're not actually making any point at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 6:21:09 PM #479:	Trumble posted... The important details you're missing is that just because Germany were beyond a doubt bad guys, doesn't mean anyone fighting against them is automatically good guys. War can be, and often is, two bad guys (one of whom very well may be worse than the other, but both still bad) rather than a good guy and a bad guy. Even when one side has a legitimate reason to fight a war, they can still be the bad guys depending on their conduct in it. One of the few exceptions to come to mind is the Russia-Ukraine war, where Ukraine are definitely good guys (at least so far; that would change if they started targeting or disregarding Russian civilians). If Japan or Germany had won the war, the entire world would have been one big prison (death)/forced labor camp. Since the Allies won, Germany and Japan thrived through loans and development. It's easy to see who "the bad guys are/were". If Hamas were to win this war, all gays in Israel would be murdered, women would be forced into sex slavery, and many millions more would be killed just for being Jews. And that is the difference. --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979578161] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>The important details you're missing is that just because Germany were beyond a doubt bad guys, doesn't mean anyone fighting against them is automatically good guys. War can be, and often is, two bad guys (one of whom very well may be worse than the other, but both still bad) rather than a good guy and a bad guy. Even when one side has a legitimate reason to fight a war, they can still be the bad guys depending on their conduct in it. One of the few exceptions to come to mind is the Russia-Ukraine war, where Ukraine are definitely good guys (at least so far; that would change if they started targeting or disregarding Russian civilians).</quote>If Japan or Germany had won the war, the entire world would have been one big prison (death)/forced labor camp. Since the Allies won, Germany and Japan thrived through loans and development. It's easy to see who "the bad guys are/were". If Hamas were to win this war, all gays in Israel would be murdered, women would be forced into sex slavery, and many millions more would be killed just for being Jews. And that is the difference. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/26/24 6:22:38 PM #480:	bkilla posted... If Hamas were to win this war, all gays in Israel would be murdered, women would be forced into sex slavery, and many millions more would be killed just for being Jews. And that is the difference. And Israel is quite literally perpetuating a campaign of genocide that you're at best utterly dismissive of. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979578193] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>If Hamas were to win this war, all gays in Israel would be murdered, women would be forced into sex slavery, and many millions more would be killed just for being Jews. And that is the difference.</quote>And Israel is quite literally perpetuating a campaign of genocide that you're at best utterly dismissive of. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 03/26/24 6:22:48 PM #481:	bkilla posted... If Japan or Germany had won the war, the entire world would have been one big prison (death)/forced labor camp. Since the Allies won, Germany and Japan thrived through loans and development. It's easy to see who "the bad guys are/were". If Hamas were to win this war, all gays in Israel would be murdered, women would be forced into sex slavery, and many millions more would be killed just for being Jews. And that is the difference. And if Israel win this war, most if not all of the Palestinians will be killed or displaced. Hence, bad guy vs bad guy. The only good guys (not including third parties not directly involved but trying to push for a ceasefire) are the Israeli and Palestinian civilians. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979578199] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>If Japan or Germany had won the war, the entire world would have been one big prison (death)/forced labor camp. Since the Allies won, Germany and Japan thrived through loans and development. It's easy to see who "the bad guys are/were". If Hamas were to win this war, all gays in Israel would be murdered, women would be forced into sex slavery, and many millions more would be killed just for being Jews. And that is the difference.</quote>And if Israel win this war, most if not all of the Palestinians will be killed or displaced.Hence, bad guy vs bad guy.The only good guys (not including third parties not directly involved but trying to push for a ceasefire) are the Israeli and Palestinian civilians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoMeLx22x 03/26/24 6:25:27 PM #482:	bkilla posted... If Japan or Germany had won the war, the entire world would have been one big prison (death)/forced labor camp. Since the Allies won, Germany and Japan thrived through loans and development. It's easy to see who "the bad guys are/were". If Hamas were to win this war, all gays in Israel would be murdered, women would be forced into sex slavery, and many millions more would be killed just for being Jews. And that is the difference. There's no bigger sign that you don't give one solitary fuck about Palestinian lives than this post. You completely dismissed and ignored the ongoing genocide campaign to make this point. It's wild how much of a cognitive dissonance you have over this. --- Sigs are for losers. <cite>NoMeLx22x posted [p:979578250] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>If Japan or Germany had won the war, the entire world would have been one big prison (death)/forced labor camp. Since the Allies won, Germany and Japan thrived through loans and development. It's easy to see who "the bad guys are/were". If Hamas were to win this war, all gays in Israel would be murdered, women would be forced into sex slavery, and many millions more would be killed just for being Jews. And that is the difference.</quote>There's no bigger sign that you don't give one solitary fuck about Palestinian lives than this post. You completely dismissed and ignored the ongoing genocide campaign to make this point. It's wild how much of a cognitive dissonance you have over this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 6:27:02 PM #483:	DrizztLink posted... And Israel is quite literally perpetuating a campaign of genocide that you're at best utterly dismissive of. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could have killed every living thing in Gaza without losing one life. That's how genocides work. The Gazan population has nearly tripled in the last 30 years. --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979578280] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>And Israel is quite literally perpetuating a campaign of genocide that you're at best utterly dismissive of.</quote>If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could have killed every living thing in Gaza without losing one life. That's how genocides work. The Gazan population has nearly tripled in the last 30 years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 03/26/24 6:27:37 PM #484:	NoMeLx22x posted... There's no bigger sign that you don't give one solitary fuck about Palestinian lives than this post. You completely dismissed and ignored the ongoing genocide campaign to make this point. It's wild how much of a cognitive dissonance you have over this. That's the crux of the issue. Some people are so oblivious to the humanity of the Palestinians that they can't even tell that they're denying their humanity. Assuming they're posting in good faith, some people are well aware of their denial. --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:979578291] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>NoMeLx22x posted... </cite><quote>There's no bigger sign that you don't give one solitary fuck about Palestinian lives than this post. You completely dismissed and ignored the ongoing genocide campaign to make this point. It's wild how much of a cognitive dissonance you have over this.</quote>That's the crux of the issue. Some people are so oblivious to the humanity of the Palestinians that they can't even tell that they're denying their humanity. Assuming they're posting in good faith, some people are well aware of their denial. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/26/24 6:27:45 PM #485:	bkilla posted... If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could have killed every living thing in Gaza without losing one life. That's how genocides work. The Gazan population has nearly tripled in the last 30 years. You're an actual moron. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979578294] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could have killed every living thing in Gaza without losing one life. That's how genocides work. The Gazan population has nearly tripled in the last 30 years.</quote>You're an actual moron. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 6:30:38 PM #486:	Trumble posted... And if Israel win this war, most if not all of the Palestinians will be killed or displaced. Hence, bad guy vs bad guy. The only good guys (not including third parties not directly involved but trying to push for a ceasefire) are the Israeli and Palestinian civilians. I highly doubt that. You do know that 20% of Israel is Arab Muslim? That they are free and WANT to live there. That a former Prime Minister of Israel was sent to prison by an arab Muslim Supreme Court justice in Israel, right? --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979578353] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>And if Israel win this war, most if not all of the Palestinians will be killed or displaced.Hence, bad guy vs bad guy.The only good guys (not including third parties not directly involved but trying to push for a ceasefire) are the Israeli and Palestinian civilians.</quote>I highly doubt that. You do know that 20% of Israel is Arab Muslim? That they are free and WANT to live there. That a former Prime Minister of Israel was sent to prison by an arab Muslim Supreme Court justice in Israel, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 6:32:44 PM #487:	DrizztLink posted... You're an actual moron. Name calling? --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979578397] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>You're an actual moron.</quote>Name calling? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/26/24 6:33:08 PM #488:	Do you deserve more? --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979578408] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Do you deserve more? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 03/26/24 6:33:19 PM #489:	bkilla posted... Name calling? Still a more intelligent point than anything you've posted here. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979578413] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>Name calling?</quote>Still a more intelligent point than anything you've posted here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoMeLx22x 03/26/24 6:33:28 PM #490:	bkilla posted... That's how genocides work. That's quite literally not how genocides work. You dont need to wipe out an entire population to consider it a genocide, unless of course you just want to ignore the Holocaust. Or the Armenian genocide. Or any other one throughout history. Those populations still exist. Read the fucking definition of genocide before you keep posting utter nonsense --- Sigs are for losers. <cite>NoMeLx22x posted [p:979578417] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>That's how genocides work.</quote>That's quite literally not how genocides work.You dont need to wipe out an entire population to consider it a genocide, unless of course you just want to ignore the Holocaust. Or the Armenian genocide. Or any other one throughout history. Those populations still exist. Read the fucking definition of genocide before you keep posting utter nonsense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 6:37:33 PM #491:	NoMeLx22x posted... That's quite literally not how genocides work. You dont need to wipe out an entire population to consider it a genocide, unless of course you just want to ignore the Holocaust. Or the Armenian genocide. Or any other one throughout history. Those populations still exist. Read the fucking definition of genocide before you keep posting utter nonsense My god you people. I meant "attempted genocide". This is not how it works. Israel's goal isn't to kill as many Palestinians as possible. If that were the case, they could have. Intentions matter. --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979578493] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>NoMeLx22x posted... </cite><quote>That's quite literally not how genocides work.You dont need to wipe out an entire population to consider it a genocide, unless of course you just want to ignore the Holocaust. Or the Armenian genocide. Or any other one throughout history. Those populations still exist. Read the fucking definition of genocide before you keep posting utter nonsense</quote>My god you people. I meant "attempted genocide". This is not how it works. Israel's goal isn't to kill as many Palestinians as possible. If that were the case, they could have. Intentions matter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 6:38:35 PM #492:	Trumble posted... Still a more intelligent point than anything you've posted here. Oh no, another mean comment. --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979578511] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Still a more intelligent point than anything you've posted here.</quote>Oh no, another mean comment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 03/26/24 6:39:35 PM #493:	Zoks posted... Egypt doesn't decide what goes in and out Gaza, Israel does. That means Israel controls the border. Now can Egypt "control" the border? Sure, if they are willing to risk a war with Israel because they don't want certain things going into Gaza. When the alternative is expelling all of the people of Gaza into Egypt as refugees I would say they are more likely to look for a favorable outcome, are raising legitimate border control issues and have just as much stake in the outcome as Israel. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:979578535] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Zoks posted... </cite><quote>Egypt doesn't decide what goes in and out Gaza, Israel does. That means Israel controls the border. Now can Egypt "control" the border? Sure, if they are willing to risk a war with Israel because they don't want certain things going into Gaza.</quote>When the alternative is expelling all of the people of Gaza into Egypt as refugees I would say they are more likely to look for a favorable outcome, are raising legitimate border control issues and have just as much stake in the outcome as Israel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 03/26/24 6:39:39 PM #494:	NoMeLx22x posted... That's quite literally not how genocides work. You dont need to wipe out an entire population to consider it a genocide, unless of course you just want to ignore the Holocaust. Or the Armenian genocide. Or any other one throughout history. Those populations still exist. Read the fucking definition of genocide before you keep posting utter nonsense Head canon: he knows what the definition is and is purposefully obfuscating it to support Israel --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:979578536] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>NoMeLx22x posted... </cite><quote>That's quite literally not how genocides work.You dont need to wipe out an entire population to consider it a genocide, unless of course you just want to ignore the Holocaust. Or the Armenian genocide. Or any other one throughout history. Those populations still exist. Read the fucking definition of genocide before you keep posting utter nonsense</quote>Head canon: he knows what the definition is and is purposefully obfuscating it to support Israel </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 03/26/24 6:42:52 PM #495:	bkilla posted... If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could have killed every living thing in Gaza without losing one life. Even by UN standards, genocide has several different benchmarks and definitions that don't include everyone being deadbooked. Israel is meeting several of those benchmarks and definitions. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979578586] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could have killed every living thing in Gaza without losing one life.</quote>Even by UN standards, genocide has several different benchmarks and definitions that don't include everyone being deadbooked. Israel is meeting several of those benchmarks and definitions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/26/24 6:43:34 PM #496:	DnDer posted... Even by UN standards, genocide has several different benchmarks and definitions that don't include everyone being deadbooked. Israel is meeting several of those benchmarks and definitions. but but but bibi said --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979578605] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Even by UN standards, genocide has several different benchmarks and definitions that don't include everyone being deadbooked. Israel is meeting several of those benchmarks and definitions.</quote>but but but bibi said </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 6:47:38 PM #497:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... Head canon: he knows what the definition is and is purposefully obfuscating it to support Israel Israel's goal isn't to kill all Palestinians, it's to destroy Hamas. Civilian casualties aren't genocide. Calling it so is disrespectful to the groups who have endured such suffering. I implore you to look up the definition and pay attention to the "intent" part of genocide. --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979578680] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted... </cite><quote>Head canon: he knows what the definition is and is purposefully obfuscating it to support Israel</quote>Israel's goal isn't to kill all Palestinians, it's to destroy Hamas. Civilian casualties aren't genocide. Calling it so is disrespectful to the groups who have endured such suffering. I implore you to look up the definition and pay attention to the "intent" part of genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/26/24 6:50:52 PM #498:	Christ, just when we get rid of Eagles we get this clown. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979578740] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>Christ, just when we get rid of Eagles we get this clown. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 03/26/24 6:53:09 PM #499:	bkilla posted... Israel's goal isn't to kill all Palestinians, Golly, they sure fooled us all those times they said they wanted to commit genocide. --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:979578796] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>bkilla posted... </cite><quote>Israel's goal isn't to kill all Palestinians,</quote>Golly, they sure fooled us all those times they said they wanted to commit genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkilla 03/26/24 6:58:33 PM #500:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... Golly, they sure fooled us all those times they said they wanted to commit genocide. Thank you for saying "wanted to", implying that no genocide has taken place. --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:979578885] in Israel/Pal... [t:80714442]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted... </cite><quote>Golly, they sure fooled us all those times they said they wanted to commit genocide.</quote>Thank you for saying "wanted to", implying that no genocide has taken place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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