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andel
03/03/24 5:17:29 PM
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https://apnews.com/article/trump-primary-caucus-republican-voters-general-election-4a64d34b6d74e167cf6b256784c841c0

anywhere from 10-31% of republicans say they won't vote for trump in a potential rematch against biden. this is a massive problem for cheeto benito since he needs basically all republicans and a to gain independents to win a general election.

the media and gop/russian propaganda apparatus have been doomspeaking about bidens chances, but that will likely just encourage people to once again turn out en masse to vote against trump. we have seen in every election after '16 that trump or his dogma does not perform well in elections and his endorsement hurts candidates that aren't in safe red states/districts.

we need good turnout obviously, but if people just show up and vote biden will win again.

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ssb_yunglink2
03/03/24 5:18:25 PM
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I dont care what they say. Republicans time and time again say they cant support Trump anymore, but when it comes down to it, they always fucking do.

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AbsolutelyNoOne
03/03/24 5:20:55 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I dont care what they say. Republicans time and time again say they cant support Trump anymore, but when it comes down to it, they always fucking do.
Yeah I don't trust them to actually not vote for Trump

Every Republican who has publicly torn him down except Christie I think ends up endorsing him anyway, so every non Trump Republican option just becomes Trump. Even fucking Nikki Haley has pledged to pardon him.

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andel
03/03/24 5:21:37 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I dont care what they say. Republicans time and time again say they cant support Trump anymore, but when it comes down to it, they always fucking do.

as a whole they do but if even 1/10 vote for biden or just don't vote at all it makes trumps chances vanishingly small. the ec favors republicans, but the american electorate favors democrats and democrats always win when turnout is high or if the gop candidate doesn't capture a significant portion of independent voters.

the best predictor we have for '24 is the past few elections. we have seen how trump and his ideas perform at the ballot box and it is very poor.

also abortion will always be on the ballot with trump running since he killed abortion rights. abortion is still incredibly popular across the board and among women it is a higher priority and even more popular.

it's depressing that trump has any path at all, but the media feeds off of making him look more formidable than he is. biden will have to fumble the bag badly in some way to lose

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Vyrulisse
03/03/24 5:21:59 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I dont care what they say. Republicans time and time again say they cant support Trump anymore, but when it comes down to it, they always fucking do.
They are getting pushed out and labelled RINOs. There's nothing they can do, they lost the inner war among their party.

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hereforemnant
03/03/24 5:22:03 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I dont care what they say. Republicans time and time again say they cant support Trump anymore, but when it comes down to it, they always fucking do.
Pretty much this. Those people are faithless

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ssb_yunglink2
03/03/24 5:24:14 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
They are getting pushed out and labelled RINOs. There's nothing they can do, they lost the inner war among their party.
And yet they continue to vote for and support the same people who call them RINOs. Theyre fine with being insulted.

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Heineken14
03/03/24 5:25:07 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I dont care what they say. Republicans time and time again say they cant support Trump anymore, but when it comes down to it, they always fucking do.

Yep. I believe that about as much as I believe in bigfoot. Come ask me again when there's an actual 8ft tall hairy man shitting in my front yard.

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andel
03/03/24 7:01:22 PM
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if trump loses in 20 he won't have any way to stop his multiple criminal trials to stay out of prison. if he loses he will hopefully die in prison

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ClayGuida
03/03/24 7:03:09 PM
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They're notorious liars, but even if they aren't, the liberals voting for Trump will surely make up for it.

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YellowSUV
03/03/24 7:13:05 PM
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I'll believe it when I see it.

However, Trump keeps getting primary votes under poll numbers and Biden keeps getting primary votes above poll numbers. Democrats also have been over performing poll numbers since 2022. These all point to the sign that polling keeps overestimating Trump and Republicans.

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ellis123
03/03/24 7:22:49 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I dont care what they say. Republicans time and time again say they cant support Trump anymore, but when it comes down to it, they always fucking do.


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ZMythos
03/03/24 7:27:25 PM
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Republicans can't be trusted to do the right thing.


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ClayGuida
03/03/24 7:32:11 PM
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Haley has completely reversed course on the RNC pledge, saying she may not follow it, since the RNC has become the Trump financiers.

If she gets even 10% of her voters to turn away from Trump, that's enough to swing several close states.

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andel
03/03/24 7:40:49 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
They're notorious liars, but even if they aren't, the liberals voting for Trump will surely make up for it.

there will be no liberals voting for trump

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Xatrion
03/03/24 7:44:59 PM
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No matter what goppers say or do, they're party over people. Every. Single. Time.

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andel
03/03/24 8:00:53 PM
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most republicans will fall in line but we don't need most, if we can get 10% that would easily swing the election. trump has no path to winning the popular vote and his only path is a narrow one with the ec, any significant percentage of votes he loses will hurt disproportionately

and the cheeto benito moniker is an old one from early in his first term, idk who came up with it but it's p apt and definitely still applies

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andel
03/04/24 12:08:18 AM
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Azn_Psycho
03/04/24 12:11:59 AM
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A statistically significant number of republicans are liars.


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JimmyFraska
03/04/24 1:26:34 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I dont care what they say. Republicans time and time again say they cant support Trump anymore, but when it comes down to it, they always fucking do.
If they're registered/identify as Republican, they absolutely will fall in line by election season. The fear porn is strong
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Dark_Arbron
03/04/24 1:33:39 AM
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Azn_Psycho posted...
A statistically significant number of republicans are liars.

In the sense that 100% is statistically significant.

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Sufferedphoenix
03/04/24 1:36:38 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I dont care what they say. Republicans time and time again say they cant support Trump anymore, but when it comes down to it, they always fucking do.
So similar to vote blue no matter who. That's just how it is most people vote for a party moreso tha. The candidate themself

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Dark_Arbron
03/04/24 1:41:42 AM
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Sufferedphoenix posted...
So similar to vote blue no matter who. That's just how it is most people vote for a party moreso tha. The candidate themself

Vote blue no matter who is about the fact that even the worst Democrat is worlds better than the best (least bad) Republican, given the serious threat the GOP poses to democracy and human rights.

Its not tribalism. Its self-defence.

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JimmyFraska
03/04/24 2:03:41 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Vote blue no matter who is about the fact that even the worst Democrat is worlds better than the best (least bad) Republican, given the serious threat the GOP poses to democracy and human rights.

Its not tribalism. Its self-defence.
But you surely already know that's what they believe about Democrats in reverse? I mean, even if you don't believe in your heart that they believe that in their heart, that's how they talk about in in their communities and groups, the exact same way you're talking about it here with people that agree with you.
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Dark_Arbron
03/04/24 2:08:14 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
But you surely already know that's what they believe about Democrats in reverse? I mean, even if you don't believe in your heart that they believe that in their heart, that's how they talk about in in their communities and groups, the exact same way you're talking about it here with people that agree with you.

Except when they talk about Democrats cheating in elections and undermining liberty, theyre wrong. The Democrats havent gone on record with a planned Christiofascist restructuring of the US the way the Republicans have, so I dont care for your same thing both sides trash.

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JimmyFraska
03/04/24 2:16:07 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Except when they talk about Democrats cheating in elections and undermining liberty, theyre wrong. The Democrats havent gone on record with a planned Christiofascist restructuring of the US the way the Republicans have, so I dont care for your same thing both sides trash.
What you care for doesn't matter to me, I'm just telling you, your posts are so formulaic that you can just swap the buzzwords and you'll instantly be a Republican.
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Dark_Arbron
03/04/24 2:18:46 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
What you care for doesn't matter to me, I'm just telling you, your posts are so formulaic that you can just swap the buzzwords and you'll instantly be a Republican.

Nah, my post isnt calling for the extermination of (x). Square peg, round hole.

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ssb_yunglink2
03/04/24 2:18:49 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
What you care for doesn't matter to me, I'm just telling you, your posts are so formulaic that you can just swap the buzzwords and you'll instantly be a Republican.
what rights are Democrats trying to take away? I can list abortion and trans rights being in danger from republicans just off the top of my head.

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JimmyFraska
03/04/24 2:21:55 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
what rights are Democrats trying to take away? I can list abortion and trans rights being in danger from republicans just off the top of my head.
idc ask a Republican. I can tell you what they say but it doesn't really matter. It's nothing you haven't heard before.
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JimmyFraska
03/04/24 2:23:38 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Nah, my post isnt calling for the extermination of (x). Square peg, round hole.
Lmao, you think they frame it as "We want to kill these people cause we HATE them!" No. They frame it the same way you do "We are going to DIE unless we win." The hate only comes after the fear.
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Dark_Arbron
03/04/24 2:25:07 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
Lmao, you think they frame it as "We want to kill these people cause we HATE them!" No. They frame it the same way you do "We are going to DIE unless we win."

Again, in their case theyre full of shit if they claim that. Meanwhile if Republicans win plenty of people are at risk of being marginalized, oppressed, and possibly killed.

JimmyFraska posted...
idc ask a Republican. I can tell you what they say but it doesn't really matter. It's nothing you haven't heard before.

Nope. You said you could replace the particulars in my post and turn me into a Republican, so lets see it.

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ssb_yunglink2
03/04/24 2:27:02 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
Lmao, you think they frame it as "We want to kill these people cause we HATE them!" No. They frame it the same way you do "We are going to DIE unless we win." The hate only comes after the fear.
so are the abortion babies gonna rise from the dead and start exterminating people? Why would you die because abortion is allowed?

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JimmyFraska
03/04/24 2:31:40 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Nope. You said you could replace the particulars in my post and turn me into a Republican, so lets see it.
Easy
Dark_Arbron posted...
The Republicans havent gone on record with a planned Communist restructuring of the US the way the Democrats have, so I dont care for your same thing both sides trash.
I mean I can all but GUARANTEE if I went into a conservative forum and made the exact same points I'm raising here, the response would be that word for word.
Dark_Arbron posted...
Voting red no matter what is about the fact that even the worst Republican is worlds better than the best (least bad) Democrat, given the serious threat the left poses to our republic and human rights.

Its not tribalism. Its self-defence.

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JimmyFraska
03/04/24 2:35:12 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
so are the abortion babies gonna rise from the dead and start exterminating people? Why would you die because abortion is allowed?
For conservatives, abortion is viewed as genocide, our people being pushed to kill themselves is the way they present it. When Roe V Wade got overturned all the people I know in church were celebrating as if it was the end all victory. But for me who has no faith in the system, it was just another day.
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Dark_Arbron
03/04/24 2:35:36 AM
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And the Democrats havent gone on record planning to restructure the US under communism, so it would be a lie. Whats your point? That they can say no you! and that somehow makes them equally justified and worth respecting?

Were done. Most other users decided that hours ago and I have only myself to blame for playing your silly game, but since the mods cant do their fucking jobs I guess Ill just have to ignore you.

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JimmyFraska
03/04/24 2:37:06 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Were done. Most other users decided that hours ago and I have only myself to blame for playing your silly game
You're not done with me I'm done with you
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andel
03/04/24 4:18:32 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
If they're registered/identify as Republican, they absolutely will fall in line by election season. The fear porn is strong

clearly not or the group that have funded attacks on the trumpian wing since '16 wouldn't still exist. there is a segment of the gop which has continued to grow that supports biden over trump. your posts itt read as weird trumper cope

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Kradek
03/04/24 5:08:03 AM
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Republicans are notorious liars, so while I'd like to take solace in that, I won't unless the actual election results reflect it.

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wackyteen
03/04/24 5:14:39 AM
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I'll believe it when I see it, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it is true.

Trump brought radical change and is promising further radical change, to a party that, until recently, was against massive/radical change, at least in theory and based on the fact they're ostensibly conservative (keeping things the way they are/were)

So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a fair amount that don't care to see more Trump.

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JimmyFraska
03/04/24 5:49:48 AM
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andel posted...
clearly not or the group that have funded attacks on the trumpian wing since '16 wouldn't still exist. there is a segment of the gop which has continued to grow that supports biden over trump. your posts itt read as weird trumper cope
Okay then lmao you can believe that your anti-Trump Republicans will be there for you sure
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Zwijn
03/04/24 6:47:12 AM
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When will you guys get a left wing party?
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andel
03/04/24 8:03:23 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
Okay then lmao you can believe that your anti-Trump Republicans will be there for you sure

it's like you cultists don't remember 2018 or 2020 or 2022 lol. trump is toxic shit and repulses the electorate outside of his cult states

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Notti
03/07/24 5:17:22 AM
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Kradek posted...
Republicans are notorious liars, so while I'd like to take solace in that, I won't unless the actual election results reflect it.


That's why they love Trump so much.

"They belong to their father, Trump, and they want to carry out their fathers desires. He was a conman from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."


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divot1338
03/07/24 5:18:12 AM
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Republicans say lots of things.

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sfcalimari
03/07/24 5:31:13 AM
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Exhaustive, fact-checked, extensively sourced list of all the times you could trust what a Republican said:


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Dark_Arbron
03/07/24 5:33:47 AM
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sfcalimari posted...
Exhaustive, fact-checked, extensively sourced list of all the times you could trust what a Republican said:

To be fair, Trump claiming he could shoot someone and not lose a vote is almost certainly true. And Project 2025 is full of true statements of intent too.

Id rather we go with any time a Republican claims theyre going to do something positive, theyre lying.

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lilORANG
03/07/24 7:03:03 AM
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There's always a group of "moderate" Republicans who say they don't like extremism and then Trump gets 70 million votes anyways. Can't trust em.

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