Current Events > I had my first disappointing Michelin star dinner last weekend.

(+) Yeah! (+)

I'll usually defend fine dining as a concept (and people are flat out wrong about "tiny portions"), but this was just not it.

The food was good but I'm pretty sure 80% of the price tag was wrapped up in pomp. it was very classic french service, with an entire freakin' family tree history given for each glass of wine. The food was a lot of foam stuff. The entire experience actually seemed...dated?

It cost me $700 for two people, and I've honestly had more interesting dining experiences for half that.

Maybe I'm just jaded by fine dining at this point. But I dunno, looking around the other tables I started to think that this was just a place for wealthy bored boomers to have some regular weeknight food.

Shoulda had a McRib.

I can't believe you can afford that

are we 100% sure pinky and sunhawk aren't the same person?

Aloc posted...

I can't believe you can afford that

"Afford" is relative to what you like to do, I guess.

I prefer to spend money on experiences than things - some people would not balk at spending 4k on a gaming PC or 40k on a car, and I would struggle to spend over 1k on a PC and more than 5k on a car.

Anony1125 posted...

are we 100% sure pinky and sunhawk aren't the same person?

Have you ever seen them both in the same room at the same time, hmm?

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Eh. Who doesn't spend money on stuff that other people think is stupid?

Maybe he doesn't have a collection of big tits anime figures?

ai123 posted...

Eh. Who doesn't spend money on stuff that other people think is stupid?

Maybe he doesn't have a collection of big tits anime figures?

I live a pretty frugal life in general tbh. I buy almost exclusively second hand clothing, I have a shitty car, I get refurbished older phones. A disproportionate amount of money goes towards food things.

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I did enjoy that movie.

I can't afford lunch but it all becomes poop anyway. Gimme that gaming PC. I can't afford it either tho tbh.

I really hope you got laid after spending that much for dinner.

Ultima_Fury posted...

I really hope you got laid after spending that much for dinner.

The dinner was disappointing so he probably just got a handy

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There is no logical consistency with how I think about spending money. I'll hum and haw about spending 10 for a new lightbulb for my car interior light and then spend 9 on a stupid cocktail.

Whats your job? Is it in IT? I cant imagine spending that much for dinner plus tip.

pinky0926 posted...

4k on a gaming PC

Why are you still stuck on early 2010s trolling when it comes to PC gaming is it a kink

MacadamianNut3 posted...

Why are you still stuck on early 2010s trolling when it comes to PC gaming is it a kink

We gonna act like its not a thing?

https://www.newegg.com/amp/p/pl?N=100019095+4091

TheGoldenEel posted...

We gonna act like its not a thing?

Yeah they exist, right along with million dollar cars and homes. It doesn't mean anybody that wants a good/great car, home, or gaming PC needs to spend that much

I have a literal 4090, 5800X3D, 64 GB of RAM and 8 TB of solid state storage in my computer and it's nowhere close to 4k. Maybe if I headbutted a brick wall a few times and clicked on random stuff on Amazon I could get it up to that much

Probably should read the specs in the link you posted because nobody but LinuxTechTips is gaming on a PC with a Threadripper or 128 GB of RAM

MacadamianNut3 posted...

Yeah they exist, right along with million dollar cars and homes. It doesn't mean anybody that wants a good/great car, home, or gaming PC needs to spend that much

Yeah that was the point of the post you were responding to

they exist, some people buy them

TheGoldenEel posted...

Yeah that was the point of the post you were responding to

Well it's a bad point because it's kinky early 2010s trolling and just because you can spend 10k on a computer doesn't mean anyone needs to

Glad we've settled this dumbass shit

MacadamianNut3 posted...

Well it's a bad point because it's kinky early 2010s trolling and just because you can spend 10k on a computer doesn't mean anyone needs to

Glad we've settled this dumbass shit

Are you unaware of context, and what the topic youre posting is about

how can someone miss a point so hard my god

A bunch of tldr because

Glad we've settled this dumbass shit

Edit: Oh I see you're missing context so here's some https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80701177, slightly more obvious when comparing a 4k PC to a 40k car which is the typical price of cars nowadays for anybody not living under a rock

pinky0926 posted...

"Afford" is relative to what you like to do, I guess.

I prefer to spend money on experiences than things - some people would not balk at spending 4k on a gaming PC or 40k on a car, and I would struggle to spend over 1k on a PC and more than 5k on a car.

If you want experiences, start a family rather than buy absurdly overpriced and overrated food that ends up as the same shit out the other end.

pinky0926 posted...

It cost me $700 for two people

ffs!

lol 700

Paragon21XX posted...

If you want experiences, start a family rather than buy absurdly overpriced and overrated food that ends up as the same shit out the other end.

Maybe thats not the experience he wants.

Did you buy several bottles of expensive wine or something? And did that include tip?

pinky0926 posted...

It cost me $700 for two people

Bro what

This entire thing seems really hard for some to grasp, lol

tiny violin stuff

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Michelin Star restaurants at that level is more about the experience and tasting unique things.

What are some you'd recommend?

teep_ posted...

What are some you'd recommend?

a) Budget?
b) Type of Cuisine?
c) Looking for Value or Uniqueness of Experience?

lydiaquayle posted...

a) Budget?
b) Type of Cuisine?
c) Looking for Value or Uniqueness of Experience?

a) I can save up if necessary, but preferably up to 1000
b) I'm not sure. Hit me with everything I guess
c) Yes

teep_ posted...

a) I can save up if necessary, but preferably up to 1000
b) I'm not sure. Hit me with everything I guess
c) Yes

b) Location?
c) You didn't answer the question, are you looking more for Value? or more for the Experience.

How much did you tip?

BloodMoon7 posted...

Gimme that gaming PC. I can't afford it either tho tbh.

Michelin star restaurant : neighborhood $12-20 popular lunch joint == $5000 gaming rig : $500-1000 computer
In either sector, you're paying a huge premium for that extra 1% quality.

MacadamianNut3 posted...

Well it's a bad point because it's kinky early 2010s trolling and just because you can spend 10k on a computer doesn't mean anyone needs to

Glad we've settled this dumbass shit

It's not that deep dude. Some people (not many, definitely not most) will spend 4k on a gaming PC. I literally work with a guy who spent this much on his.

Some people (not many, definitely not most) will spend $700 on a meal.

I've had better meals for like $200, so to your previous point about only needing to spend like $1k on a gaming PC...yeah.

pinky0926 posted...

This entire thing seems really hard for some to grasp, lol

Yeah they're acting like you bought a million dollar car or something.

pinky0926 posted...

Some people (not many, definitely not most) will spend $700 on a meal.

I've had better meals for like $200, so to your previous point about only needing to spend like $1k on a gaming PC...yeah.

The funny part is that tasting food is also very subjective as well. So paying $200 vs $700 doesn't really matter. It is all based on the personal tastes of the guest. I would actually compare restaurant fine dining to art collecting.

Price is typically based on a variety of factors:
a) Location of Restaurant,
b) Reputation of the Head Chef, ownership
c) Demand / Waitlist
d) Quality of Restaurant facilities
e) Perceived quality, --- of all five senses.

Mew posted...

How much did you tip?

I was going to tip 20% but there was a discretionary service charge so I didn't.

i mean like i'm not gonna knock fine dining as a concept, i ran a fine dining joint for a while
but i feel like comparing the value of a single dining experience to a physical possession (like a gaming PC) that retains at least somewhat of its original value and lasts more than a single evening, doesn't really work lol
i'd more compare fine dining to something like buying good tickets to see your fav musical artist or something

$700 for dinner. I just can't.

Mew posted...

How much did you tip?

Yeah, forgot to mention that a large portion of Michelin Star restaurants already priced a set tip amount into the cover. Also, most are saying that the normal tip is around 5-10% or so, 15% is considered very generous.

It's much lower at Michelin Star restaurants, because everyone knows that the servers and waitstaff are all paid very well, relative to normal restaurants.

ArsGoetia posted...

but i feel like comparing the value of a single dining experience to a physical possession (like a gaming PC) that retains at least somewhat of its original value and lasts more than a single evening, doesn't really work lol

I think they use things like a PC or a Car, because, like many restaurants, you're paying +500% +1000% for an extra 1-5% in quality.

Harder to make that comparison with like an entertainment venue, but you are right in that I view fine dining more as enjoying art, than it is a commodity.

lydiaquayle posted...

I think they use things like a PC or a Car, because, like many restaurants, you're paying +500% +1000% for an extra 1-5% in quality.

thats why i added the qualifier about seating
people pay exponentially more for "better" seats, and even more through scalpers
i personally wouldnt wanna be front row at an arena show, but people pay thousands for tickets like that

i remember i got gifted two tickets to see van halen when they first reunited with DLR like 20 years ago and the guy paid like $350 a pop for them since they were center floor

and like i said. if i buy a gaming rig, decide i dont like it, it wasnt worth it, need money, etc. i could turn around and put it up for resale for at least most of what i paid for it. (same with a car) cant do that with a disappointing dinner or a shitty concert lol

lydiaquayle posted...

b) Location?
c) You didn't answer the question, are you looking more for Value? or more for the Experience.

Germany, Berlin area (though I'm willing to travel)

It was a tongue-in-cheek answer. I'm open to both/

teep_ posted...

Germany, Berlin area (though I'm willing to travel)

1) https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/capital-region/copenhagen/restaurant/noma
arguably the most famous restaurant in the world right now. unfortunately, it's closing at the end of the year, and i doubt you can get any spots anymore

2) https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/niedersachsen/wolfsburg/restaurant/aqua79029
3) https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/hamburg-region/hamburg/restaurant/the-table-kevin-fehling
4) https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/capital-region/copenhagen/restaurant/geranium
5) https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/berlin-region/berlin/restaurant/rutz

These are all of the 3-star restaurants in Germany or Copenhagen. This is if you're looking to spend $1000 euro for once in a lifetime experiences.

If you're more interested in good food, then you might wanna try 1 star restaurants and ask around ppl in your area for their opinion.