Current Events > Trump beats Nikki in her own state.

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So now it is pretty much Trump vs Biden again. May democracy survive with a Trump defeat this year.

Cheater87 posted...

So now it is pretty much Trump vs Biden again.

Always was if Trump wanted to run and was allowed to.

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I mean she lost to nobody a few weeks back.

Embarrassing much?

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Even if Trump wins in 2024, he'll be running again in 2028. Laws don't affect him because reasons. He'll say he gets unlimited terms and the Supreme Court will be like your ideas are intriguing and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

#Rekt

Not quite the curb stomping I was hoping for, but it's only at like 16% reporting, it might get worse for her yet.

Hopefully this humiliation will permanently end her political career.

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No chance he's alive in 2028.

ClayGuida posted...

No chance he's alive in 2028.

This. People try to pretend he's in better shape than Biden, but... When was the last time Trump even willingly looked at a bike? The tub of lard literally had to be walked down a slight incline.

He's going to keep campaigning for a 2028 race after losing, but with it so far away his legal battles will take him out before then.

The fact that she refuses to drop out makes her slightly less unlikable.

ForsakenHermit posted...

The fact that she refuses to drop out makes her slightly less unlikable.

Eh, I disagree. It's effectively her fighting against Trump. Even if she's barely better, not backing down against Trump is more of a likeable thing than not.

She should stay in the race on the off chance he gets convicted before November

True. The longer she stays in, the more he'll insult her, and each sexist insult can become an attack ad.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

True. The longer she stays in, the more he'll insult her, and each sexist insult can become an attack ad.

This, also. The longer she stays in, the more he'll show himself.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

True. The longer she stays in, the more he'll insult her, and each sexist insult can become an attack ad.

Hes already threatened to do shit to her if hes President again if she doesnt drop out.

Well see where things are later, but so far this is not a resounding victory for a candidate leading a cult.

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Look, this might not mean anything, but Im just gonna point out that if this were the same results in the Democrat primary, that would be the only thing the media would be talking about for a whole week.

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StealThisSheen posted...

Eh, I disagree. It's effectively her fighting against Trump. Even if she's barely better, not backing down against Trump is more of a likeable thing than not.

Reread it.

Block_that_Kick posted...

Look, this might not mean anything, but Im just gonna point out that if this were the same results in the Democrat primary, that would be the only thing the media would be talking about for a whole week.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/12b3b192.jpg

Because Biden is president. Trump is not and his performance thusly isn't comparable to an incumbent's.

spriga posted...

Reread it.

Good call. That's a weird sentence structure, but yes, they were right. My bad.

SecretBase posted...

Because Biden is president. Trump is not and his performance thusly isn't comparable to an incumbent's.

To his cult Slug Virus is the defacto incumbent.

Yes I'm aware that had he ran for relection he'd be intelligible by that logic.

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1761606334082896297

40% of Republicans in South Carolina voting against Trump is a pretty big deal. Sure Haley lost by double digits, but there's a reason her voters chose her over Trump, and this could spell disaster going forward, unless he's able to court them.

Granted the actual number is low, the fact that those who participate in primaries tend to be more politically attuned should tell you enough. If Trump doesn't manage to court even half of those votes, he's going to lose in a landslide.

Trump: We didn't lose 2024, and even if we did, that just gives you people four more years to give me all your money!

Euripides posted...

She should stay in the race on the off chance he gets convicted before November

I think this is a long game she's playing. She'll be the nominee by default if Trump gets convicted, but there's a small part of me that thinks she sees just how bad Trump is for their party and is working to erode that base. About 22% of voters who voted for Nikki Haley in South Carolina won't vote for Trump if he's the nominee. He's barely winning the primaries as the de facto incumbent. You're the presumptive incumbent and presidential nominee, and you only get 60% of the vote in South Carolina?

ClayGuida posted...

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1761606334082896297

40% of Republicans in South Carolina voting against Trump is a pretty big deal. Sure Haley lost by double digits, but there's a reason her voters chose her over Trump, and this could spell disaster going forward, unless he's able to court them.

Granted the actual number is low, the fact that those who participate in primaries tend to be more politically attuned should tell you enough. If Trump doesn't manage to court even half of those votes, he's going to lose in a landslide.

It's her home state. Losing by 20% is fucking pathetic.
And does no one remember 2016? Trump seldom even won a majority, he had pluralities in the 30% or low 40% range and won b/c of how split the ticket was. How "vulnerable" did that leave him in the general election?
Republicans always close ranks when it counts. Thinking those 40% (in one state) will sit out in November is pure fantasy. Trump will be president unless everyone who doesn't want that gets out and votes!

Cheater87 posted...

So now it is pretty much Trump vs Biden

https://youtu.be/Ds6gNQtGhlQ?si=UDYvUkTZgZPMkXrh

StealThisSheen posted...

This. People try to pretend he's in better shape than Biden, but... When was the last time Trump even willingly looked at a bike? The tub of lard literally had to be walked down a slight incline.

My grandfather has a bunch of health issues and hes 95. Take nothing for granted. I doubt Trump will make it that far, but theres no guarantee hell be gone by 2028.

Trump could get 50.0000001% of the vote in a primary and 100% of repug voters would vote for him in November, this doesn't mean anything other than that Trump is the nominee again

streamofthesky posted...

It's her home state. Losing by 20% is fucking pathetic.
And does no one remember 2016? Trump seldom even won a majority, he had pluralities in the 30% or low 40% range and won b/c of how split the ticket was. How "vulnerable" did that leave him in the general election?
Republicans always close ranks when it counts. Thinking those 40% (in one state) will sit out in November is pure fantasy. Trump will be president unless everyone who doesn't want that gets out and votes!

Trump lost his home state to biden. That doesn't mean shit. The point is, the republican base is fractured about trump. Not everyone likes him anymore. He needs every possible vote to have a chance and if her voters aren't lying sacks of shit, something like 60% of her voters said they wouldn't vote trump in the general. Sure they could be lying pieces of shit, as usual, but that's a pretty hefty sum if they stay at home. Maybe not enough to flip deep red states but definitely enough to keep states like Pennsylvania blue.

ClayGuida posted...

Trump lost his home state to biden. That doesn't mean shit. The point is, the republican base is fractured about trump. Not everyone likes him anymore. He needs every possible vote to have a chance and if her voters aren't lying sacks of shit, something like 60% of her voters said they wouldn't vote trump in the general. Sure they could be lying pieces of shit, as usual, but that's a pretty hefty sum if they stay at home. Maybe not enough to flip deep red states but definitely enough to keep states like Pennsylvania blue.

https://twitter.com/7Veritas4/status/1761771789217145121?t=43ZDIW6hKsZAEKX8mgq1Hg&s=19

Biden handedly beat Trump in the last General, and Trump is underperforming even that mark. I'm hoping the general populace is waking up to the type of dangerous and genocidal person Trump is. He is the type of person that you can't vote along party lines with. You need to reject his brand of authoritarianism.

Absolutely nobody with any amount of sense expected anything different.

Alucard188 posted...

Biden handedly beat Trump in the last General, and Trump is underperforming even that mark.

Trump is polling better against Biden now than he ever did in 2020 and than he ever did against Hillary in 2016. If Trump's decline was the only factor then he'd be doomed to a loss but he's also facing a less popular opponent than he ever has.

Alucard188 posted...

https://twitter.com/7Veritas4/status/1761771789217145121?t=43ZDIW6hKsZAEKX8mgq1Hg&s=19

Biden handedly beat Trump in the last General, and Trump is underperforming even that mark. I'm hoping the general populace is waking up to the type of dangerous and genocidal person Trump is. He is the type of person that you can't vote along party lines with. You need to reject his brand of authoritarianism.

Yea, I think people are ignoring the damage that Trump did to the Republican party because they seem to hear the crazies screaming from rooftops.

That's why Republicans are trying their best to paint Biden as old and feeble and making Gaza a wedge issue. That's their only hopes of winning Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania.

SecretBase posted...

Trump is polling better against Biden now than he ever did in 2020 and than he ever did against Hillary in 2016. If Trump's decline was the only factor then he'd be doomed to a loss but he's also facing a less popular opponent than he ever has.

Come back and talk to us about that when hes the nominee. For now though youre comparing apples and an orange moron.

SecretBase posted...

Trump is polling better against Biden now than he ever did in 2020 and than he ever did against Hillary in 2016. If Trump's decline was the only factor then he'd be doomed to a loss but he's also facing a less popular opponent than he ever has.

I mean, we saw just how worthless polling was in 2016, though. Hillary was the favourite in those polls, and then Trump came out and spanked her ass. You hid that you were voting for Trump back then, but now you're more likely to announce that you're voting for him because it's no longer persona non grata.

Trump underperformed last night and thats a big deal. Gonna be interesting to see what happens on Super Tuesday

ClayGuida posted...

Trump lost his home state to biden. That doesn't mean shit. The point is, the republican base is fractured about trump. Not everyone likes him anymore. He needs every possible vote to have a chance and if her voters aren't lying sacks of shit, something like 60% of her voters said they wouldn't vote trump in the general. Sure they could be lying pieces of shit, as usual, but that's a pretty hefty sum if they stay at home. Maybe not enough to flip deep red states but definitely enough to keep states like Pennsylvania blue.

This was the primary. Very different from the general. (on that note, NY was also Hillary's home state so the fact she did worse there than Biden is pretty funny, too)
Haley couldn't even win or come close in the fucking primary. She's a loser, and it's entirely her fault for being Diet MAGA instead of an actual moderate alternative like the news media desperately tries to paint her as.

ClayGuida posted...

Yea, I think people are ignoring the damage that Trump did to the Republican party because they seem to hear the crazies screaming from rooftops.

That's why Republicans are trying their best to paint Biden as old and feeble and making Gaza a wedge issue. That's their only hopes of winning Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania.

As long as Biden doesn't mess things up w/ gaffes for the next 8 months, he can easily win if people actually get out and vote. He's the best option they have by far.

And hopefully after Tuesday when the "protest vote" in Michigan goes down in even more humiliating fashion than Haley, that line of attack on Biden will lose all its steam by proving it's just a bunch of terminally online leftists being way louder than their actual numbers.
Any Michigan Dems should get out and support their president this week!

The winning your home state thing is dead. Especially in the Republican party where are politics are national.

Instead of the old school way of thinking that all politics are local.

Alucard188 posted...

I mean, we saw just how worthless polling was in 2016, though. Hillary was the favourite in those polls, and then Trump came out and spanked her ass.

Hillary got more votes than Trump like the polls said. The polling was wrong in Wisconsin and Michigan but that's mainly because Comey's letter to Congress hurt Hillary too late in the race for the polls to catch.

Alucard188 posted...

You hid that you were voting for Trump back then, but now you're more likely to announce that you're voting for him because it's no longer persona non grata.

Doesn't track. Trump also outperformed his polling in 2020, despite still losing. If people were still afraid to admit to voting for him while he was president then that wouldn't change now.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

True. The longer she stays in, the more he'll insult her, and each sexist insult can become an attack ad.

Yep that is the best thing about Biden being an incumbent. No debates or having to compete against another Democrat. No one is even thinking if Biden can beat other Dems like Trump has to deal with.

I think 2028 will be interesting when Dems have to fight each other again.

BlueTigerLion posted...

Yep that is the best thing about Biden being an incumbent. No debates or having to compete against another Democrat. No one is even thinking if Biden can beat other Dems like Trump has to deal with.

I think 2028 will be interesting when Dems have to fight each other again.

I don't. I think Dems have a pretty deep roster currently, Whitmer, Newsom, Pritzker, all popular governors of larger states, then people like AOC could jump in if they want. I guess there is the problem with age, because by then Whitmer and Newsom will be pushing 60 and Pritzker will be mid 60's. And I think a surge in youth is desperately needed in the mainstream party.

Oh boy. Haley wins 6 delegates. CD1 and CD6.

https://www.thegreenpapers.com/P24/SC-R

Ask Walter Mondale what the value of winning his own state is....

Yeah she never had a chance

Perhaps Dems could have had a different candidate, however it was always clear that Trump would be the Republican candidate barring his actual death.

He could flee the country to escape his legal obligations and Republicans would still vote for him in the hopes that him winning and pardoning himself would bring him "back home".

ClayGuida posted...

I mean she lost to nobody a few weeks back.

She also got 30% in a state she never stepped foot in or even advertised, I think, as another way of looking at the same information.

Just saying, she does better than the Trump campaign would ever have wanted her to and the one good thing about her is she calls Trump out on the same shit we call him out on, however since it's a Republican doing it they might actually care.

SecretBase posted...

Because Biden is president. Trump is not and his performance thusly isn't comparable to an incumbent's.

Except he is an incumbent candidate as the former President and the owner of the Republican Party.

The fact the media keeps treating him like he's some unknown outsider smashing shit, and not a literal former Republican POTUS and thus also an incumbent, is just another way to outline the failing of our mainstream corporate media and how they constantly carry water for Republicans.

It's only been 3 years since he left, not 30.

And in fact, like 73% of the Republican Party believes he is the rightful President and that the election was stolen from him. The dude never left Republican politics, he's been a constant working against the legitimacy of a Biden Presidency.